UFC on Versus Preview: The Judo Chops of Jon Jones
I know I'm excited about this Sunday's Jon Jones vs Brandon Vera headliner at UFC on Versus so I thought I'd share some of the reasons for my excitement by linking back to my two Judo Chops on Jon Jones. First up, Jon Jones' Greco-Roman Clinic from UFC 94:
There was plenty of technique on display at UFC 94. I really had to think about what I wanted to talk about most -- George St Pierre's Superman Jab probably merits a column, and Lyoto Machida's footwork and trips were very nice but for my dollar, Jon Jones' display of Greco-Roman wrestling against Stephan Bonnar was the coolest of all.
For one thing, despite so many high profile MMA stars coming from a Greco-Roman background -- Randy Couture, Matt Lindland and Dan Henderson leap to mind -- I really can't recall ever seeing such a clinic of flashy greco moves in one bout.
Jones caught Bonner with a variety of flashy takedowns, including the suplex that's pictured here. I've talked about the suplex recently so I'm not going to focus on that beyong saying it's a classic greco technique and is perfect for MMA -- flashy and crowd pleasing and the slam does damage as well as scores points.
The move that really caught my eye was the lateral drop with double overhooks that Jones' landed at the end of the second round. There's a step by step explanation of the lateral drop fromTheMat.com that describes what Jones did pretty well (note that he had double overhooks on Bonnar, rather than the more customary over/under grip shown at TheMat).
The legendary Smoogy did a really good breakdown of Jones' throws from UFC 94 on the UG, I've cut and pasted some of it in the full entry.
Then after he deconstructed Jake O'Brien at UFC 100 I did a Judo Chop on The Integrated Game of Jon Jones:
To beat Jake O'Brien, Jones seamlessly integrated all three phases of the MMA game -- striking, takedowns and submissions.
Jake O'Brien seemed to present some interesting challenges for Jones. So much so that a certain idiot who didn't do enough research on the fight I even picked O'Brien to win the fight. I hadn't accounted for Jones' enormous 8" reach advantage. I also failed to take into account the fact that Jones' standing game incorporates a LOT of kicks where O'Brien sticks strictly to boxing.
It did take Jones a full round to feel out O'Brien before he ramped up his attack. And what he did really made me a believer in this kid. Lots of MMA fighters have great technique in one or two areas, but only the very best are able to transition from one aspect of MMA to the next. I'm thinking of Fedor Emelianenko, Georges St Pierre, Randy Couture, B.J. Penn, Lyoto Machida -- fighters who use strikes to set up take downs, take downs to set up submissions, feint take downs to set up strikes, etc.
What Jones did was brilliant. First he faked a double leg take down and when O'Brien crouched to sprawl, Jones switched up and caught him with a spinning back elbow (pictured). It wasn't quite a perfect kill shot, but it clearly stunned O'Brien and forced him to do what freestyle wrestlers tend to do when they're hurt -- shoot for the double leg take down.
Jones sprawled and threw off the first shot, but a desperate O'Brien immediately tried again and Jones sprawled and then caught him in a very nice no arms front choke.
More in the full entry:
From Smoogy on the UG (Smoogy made the gifs and identified the moves, the information about each move is stuff I found online:
Here is my breakdown after consulting with UGer Yatsuzaki, who actually trains UFC:
- Harai Goshi/Sweeping Hip Throw.
"Harai goshi starts like ogoshi, but involves also swinging the leg and hip to the outside of the opponent's hip. This modification requires slightly better balance, but pays off by giving the throw more power while simultaneously blocking one of the opponent's escape routes."- Deashi Harai/Forward Foot Sweep
"One common method used in Danzan-ryu Jujitsu is the outside-in method of sweeping an opponent's foot. It is accomplished by initially having a firm grip on the opponent while facing him or her. The attacker then moves the foot to the opposite side of his opponent (right foot to opponent's left side, or vice versa), to sweep the opponent's opposite leg out from underneath him. Simultaneously the upper body must compliment this push-pull motion with a great deal of power being generated from the rotation of the hips."- Arm spin
"The arm spin in wrestling allows you to throw an opponent off balance, setting up the next move. This technique is all about speed and accuracy. Performed well, the arm spin is a useful tool in the wrestling toolbox. "- German Suplex
"Technically known as a belly to back waist lock suplex, the wrestler stands behind the opponent, grabs them around their waist, lifts them up, and falls backwards while bridging his back and legs, slamming the opponent down to the mat shoulder and upper back first. The wrestler keeps the waistlock and continues bridging with their back and legs, pinning the opponent's shoulders down against the mat. The regular pinning variation can be referred to as the German suplex pin. The wrestler can also release the opponent in mid arch, which is referred to as a release German suplex. Sometimes, rather than bridging for a pin, the wrestler may roll himself into another position to perform the move again, often referred to as multiple or rolling German suplexes."- Lateral Drop
See above.- Martian Manslam (aka Deashi Harai with some serious oomph on it)
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I didn't do a chop on this one
because I didn’t have much to say beyond:
FUCKING AWESOME
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he seems to have a combination of great upper body controls (long arms help with that?) and he uses his long les to sweep out their feet very fast. W@hat is about jon jones that makes him so well suited to using greco throws?
(goldberg voice) “oh explosive is how you would describe him joe”…
Not greco...
…the moment he uses his legs. Not nearly enough credit is being given to jones’ ability to learn and adapt techniques from other tma’s like judo. His Greco clinch makes for a great base, but his book of tricks goes faaaaaaaaar beyond Greco.
Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.
by judonerd on Mar 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To be fair, that’s probably not the only wrestling he’s ever done, and the wrestling coach that trains at my club now teaches ouchi gari and sasae tsurikomi ashi standard to his high school and club wrestling kids, for example.
There’s a looot of crossover between judo and folkstyle/collegiate/freestyle wrestling, it’s easier to count what isn’t than what is.
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by GroundNPound561 on Mar 15, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hamill’s coaches said no one has ever controlled or manhandled him like that. They gave Jones all his props.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 16, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
what were they gonna say...
“hamill is a bitch, we’ve always known that”?
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He slammed the shit out of Hamill.
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After watching that...
I EXPLODED in my pantz…
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by timetosaygoodbye on Mar 15, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Osoto Gari
One of the first Judo techniques taught. The think to look for is how expertly he controlled Hamill’s head with that left arm. Elbow touching the chest, forearm across the collar, and hand right up by the ear. He ratcheted his head down in perfect synchrony with his leg motion, and really exploded toward his toes. The only thing I can think of that would have improved his power would be getting his right (driving) foot closer. Obviously, the man had enough power on the throw without it.
I was even more impressed with how he used those knees to the thigh to set it up. If Hamill hadn’t brought his hips forward, the throw would never have happened. Really just amazing stuff from end to end.
by Hedonismbot on Mar 16, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
What is really great about this technique is what it should do to the game plans...
of the many, many dirty boxing enthusiasts in MMA right now.
Vera/Jones is on Sunday.
But look at that EXPLOSIVE throw from Jon Jones. I could watch that forever.
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Jones’ awesomeness vs Vera’s lameness. WHO WILL REIGN SUPREME IN THE OCTAGON!!!!
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Damon O. on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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Anything planned for Vera?
After watching these Judo Chops I have little hope for Brandon, help me find it Nate!
I'm thinking about a Vera post
he pulled some awesome moves in his day. If he fought up to his potential this would be a very even fight.
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In the past few years
He’s only looked really good against Mike Patt.
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He looked pretty good against Couture, I thought.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 15, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He had a few moments (namely the body kicks)
But his inability to pull the trigger ruined that fight for me.
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couture holding on for dear life doesn't share even half the blame?
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 16, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
Brandon couldn’t finish a wounded man. His fault and his alone. He let Couture recover & paid for it.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 16, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto!
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 16, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
True. I think they’re even matched up. Both have Greco backgrounds, long limbs that they know how to use. Vera’s muay thai might give him an edge BUT you have no idea what Skinny Bones Jones will do in the Octagon.
I know both fighters don’t have KO power.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 16, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
JUDO-ELBOW TO THE FACE, BAZINGA!

Go big red!
by pornflake on Mar 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I think his googly basketball player arms make the 12-6 particularly devastating on a supine opponent.
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by Patrick Tenney on Mar 16, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the thing
Jones is gonna need much more than just Greco to be able to take Vera down, Brandon has good Greco himself and stuffed Randy the entire fight. I don’t think Jones has the kind of clinch control to be able to keep Vera against the fence the whole fight, so he will definitely need to set up his takedowns with strikes, and chain his takedown attempts together.
Because IMO Fishbob’s standup is much better than Bones’ at this point in time.
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That’s exactly what I think he will do. His wrestling is in no way better than Randy’s, but its much less predictable. He’s going to throw things at Vera he won’t be ready for, and he’ll keep the pace up until he gets him to the mat. If it stays standing though Vera should be able to pick him apart.
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by Neil Manich on Mar 16, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m hesitant to underrate Jones’ greco/clinch/throws at 205 against anyone at this time. Couture has an amazing pedigree, but he’s nowhere near as explosive as he once was, and that’s shown over the past 2 years. Jones is an absolute monster, and the leverage he brings to his throws make strong, accomplished wrestlers look helpless.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…I’m going to laugh my ass off if Vera beats Jones. He’s not as helpless as you guys seem to think.
I love Jones though. I was a hater…but…you know, he’s so fun to watch. haha
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 16, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t think that Vera is just someone that Jones is going to run over. The UFC keeps playing clips of Jones doing these amazing/high risk moves, and I feel that some are expecting Jones to be able to do these moves in all of his fights even if that is in actuality, unrealistic. Jones is definitely improving, and Vera’s problems are generally mental. Until the fight happens, I do stand by what I feel is that Vera has much better fundamentals especially in the standup than Jones has, and Jones’ opponents had. Hammil, O’Brien, Bonnar, and Gusmao aren’t that good in their standup, especially in their fundamentals. I’m not saying that Jones can’t win because he can and has a very good chance of winning, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Vera wins this.
While I don’t think Bonnar is a great striker in MMA, he’s not bad. He is a Golden Gloves Champion, so he’s not clueless when it comes to the fundamentals.
I agree with most that realize Jones will not run over Vera. I think they will reach a stalemate in their standup. Vera’s not going to be surprised by any flashy knees or elbows. But with that said, I don’t think Vera’s experience will really factor into this fight. Vera has not looked like the “Old School” Vera since his 2006 victory over Frank Mir.
His Michael Patt victory? Please, Patt couldn’t close the distance and had no answer for the leg kicks. Vera has yet to look really impressive in the 205 division.
- I did think Hamill was going to cause problems for Jones in the clinch but I guess not.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 16, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Watch any Bonnar fight, and you won’t see good fundamentals despite being a Golden Gloves Champion. You can just go as recent as his fight with K-Sos, and you’ll see that he has no defense and just straight brawling. He probably knows the fundamentals and most likely practices them, but Bonnar historically in the cage has fought like a brawler.
I don’t think that Vera has to look like old school Vera. He has to avoid the takedown and watch out for the flashy moves/throws (and of course throw strikes of his own), and he is capable of doing that. I am a fan of Jones, and he has been improving from fight to fight, but I feel that his standup is over-valued because he does those flashy moves. However, I won’t be surprised to see Jones bring something new to the table, and he was working a jab against Hamill (with his hands down though).
by chrisbboy82 on Mar 16, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I noticed that hands down low crap myself. I was screaming WT-flying-F. Then again if you can do it and draw your opponent into a false sense of security . . . oh well.
Bonnar is a brawler because he’s just not thinking. He fights like he wants to brawl. I have no clue why? But he has some basics down, he looked decent in the 2nd and 3rd against Jones - as Jones started to gas.
Vera has already proved that he’s difficult to takedown. So if Jones pursue that, I’ll be surprised. Setting up takedowns with something else might work.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 16, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the foot sweep and the knee bump/sweep are ridiculously hard to pull of in the midst of pro MMA. i’ve gotten haraigoshi and uchimata, and even an osotomakikomi in my last fight…but sweeping a guy at that level in the midst of a fight is just absurd.
reminds me when Randy Couture footswept/tripped Ricco Rodriguez in their fight as Ricco took a few steps back. bananas difficult to pull off.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Mar 16, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions
NOTES FROM AN ACTUAL WRESTLER
- is performed incorrectly. The arm spin (a variation of the Japanese Whizzer) is started with a dominant whizzer and head position, both of which Jones has. But when he spins through, he fails to get his hips all the way through before he throws, which creates an awkward scramble that he just happens to wind up well in. He should have spin his hips all the way through, then thrown Bonnar with his waist, not his arms.
- is a German SUPLAY. A “Suplex” is the incorrect colloquial term for the move. Wrestlers know the move by its correct term, a “Suplay.”
- is not a lateral drop (you can ask me to explain that if you want), but rather a “Salto.” It is performed when the opponent has two weak double underhooks. Jones executes this perfectly, by clamping down hard with strong whizzers and gaining control of Bonnar’s arms and shoulders. Then he steps in between Bonnar’s legs, gets his hips real low, and arches hard to throw. When Bonnar leaves the ground, Jones hip heists and gains top control.
I’m pretty sure you can avoid the auto correct by adding a space in front of the #.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 16, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s what I was thinking on the lateral drop. Its been a while since I’ve actually got in the room and sweat a little, but I was under the impression a lateral drop is performed from an overhook and under hook position.
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Exactly.
A lateral is when both guys have an over-under. The wrestler steps deep in between his opponent’s legs with his overhook side leg, then steps around his opponent’s side with his other leg. Then he arches and rolls much in the same way, but it’s more lateral (hence the name) movement than a straight arch like the salto.
The Salto in-depth
The Salto is a rather simple, but difficult to perform, greco-roman wresting throw.
The starting position is with Fighter A having double underhooks (maybe even a bodylock) and Fighter B therefore having two whizzers (overhooks). In any overhook-underhook combination, the person with the underhook generally has control of his opponent’s body, but the whizzer has control of the underhooking arm. The underhook is almost always the advantageous position.
In the case of a Salto, the A’s underhooks are weak and/or loose, so B can whizzer hard and clamp down on A’s underhook, gaining control of A’s arms and shoulders. Once B feels like he has a solid clamp on both whizzers, he steps deep in between A’s legs (much like doing a lunge with weights). Therefore the majority of B’s weight is underneath A’s torso.
Then B explodes his weight upwards and slightly backwards with a strong back arch. This arch, while not particularly difficult, requires extreme courage. B will literally try to bend his back and neck enough to be able to see the upside-down mat behind him, all the while carrying A’s weight. It is also important that B keeps A directly in front of him, without losing either whizzer.
After B has A in mid launch and is about to land the slam, he hip heists (switches his hips over) and winds up on top. It is very important that B does not hip heist until A is at least directly above him. If done too soon, B loses the power of the arch and can wind up on his back with A in side mount.
I think that’s all. Let me know if you need any more help on wrestling moves. I’d be glad to help with Judo Chops in the future. They’re my favorite column.
I hope he doesn't lose this aspect of his game
As he evolves I hope he doesn’t abandon this aspect of his game like so many of his predecessors. Maybe its not that, maybe his strengths become Judo chop worthy and people take notice and try to avoid his take downs at all costs. Is it just me or is Bones quietly becoming what Vera claimed he would be. Bones looks like he could fight in two weight classes. Still early but he looks really really strong.
Yes, Bones has a huge frame at 205, and is very tall with great reach. He’s only at 205 now because he’s so skinny. If he fills out, he could easily become a good sized HW years from now. Similar to Mousasi, I think it will be a gradual change, and Jones will stay at LHW until he simply outgrows it.
by Hardcharger on Mar 16, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions

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