UFC Undisputed 2010: B.J. Penn Teaser - "My MMA Skills Can Not Be Matched"
by Nick Thomas on Mar 15, 2010 4:26 PM EDT
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he forgot to mention “Complain about all losses, ans accuse people of cheating with the help of my mom”
by haggardhero on Mar 15, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
it wasnt an accusation
it was pointing out a fact. it wasnt cool gsp and his coaches for were doing. I am glad they made a stink about it.
"When i get in there, in his face ,pressin the action,I'm RUFF NECKIN'EM,I'm throwin him around,I'm punchin him,hes punchin me, I'm eatin his shots and I'm Blastin him back in the face he's not goin to be able to handle it ." - Chris Leben on how his fight with Anderson Silva is gonna go.
Translation anyone?
From my rough interpretation, you’re stating something was a fact, which isn’t the case, no matter how badly you wish it were.
I hate rehasing this OVER AND OVER AND OVER......
The fact is GSP had grease on him. That is undisputed. (zing!) Even Dana said you can’t wipe grease off. You have to use soap and water.
Do I think BJ would have won if GSP didn’t grease? No. The fact that he did though cannot be ignored. So quit bitching at BJ for wanting to get a shot on a level playing field, weather he can beat GSP or not isn’t part of that debate.
But the accusation of cheating implies intent. So if you want to rehash this (or if you don’t), get your facts straight on the point being discussed. The NSAC determined there was no cheating going on, and BTW grease is present in large quantities on both fighters during a fight, and becomes a factor as it’s transferred from one to the other. So to use your approach, quit making up shit about a level playing field.
bullshit.
He had grease applied to his body…. it was wrong…. nsac was watching for him to do it specifically, and had to wipe him down.
if none of that had happened, maybe it wouldn’t matter… but it did.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
What wouldn’t matter? Fighters get wiped down all the time. Per the rules, that is the agreed upon resolution for this situation. And the NSAC determined there was no intent, thus no cheating, which was the crux of this overly rehashed argument.
What?
Fighters get wiped down all the time. Per the rules, that is the agreed upon resolution for this situation.
So BJ and his camp agreed that it was ok to just wipe him down and go on with the fight? I’d never heard that before.
Also, the fact that there wasn’t any intent on GSPs part personally is the reason for the NASC’s ruling. The fact that putting grease on your chest and back is illegal is what anyone saying “cheating” is referring to. It’s against the rules, and by definition cheating. The fact that he wasn’t punished doesn’t mean the cheating didn’t happen.
No, what BJ’s camp felt is irrelevant, just like your repeated posts. Per the NSAC rules, wiping down the fighter is the proper resolution. And no, just because something happenned by accident does not imply cheating. By definition, there must be intent. The fact that there was no intent, and the fact that the NSAC did not find any nefarious behavior mean there was no cheating. Are you also suggesting that Anderson Silva and Stich Duran cheated? How about Rich Franklin’s corner? Oh, that’s right, nobody cares about greasing in general, it’s just when Penn is involved.
@hardcharger, you’re obviously a GSP fanboy and think BJ is a whiner for complaining about GSP’s so called “greasegate.” Regardless of the facts, rules, and resolutions, you will never change your viewpoint.
@JimJoe, you see both sides of the issue (thank you) and realize that, regardless of whether or not the outcome would have changed, a rule was broken and that is not right.
I tried my best to avoid this convo...
But arguing over the definition of a word is dumb. I just google searched and there’s like 8 definitions of the word “cheat”. I think if people focused on the real matter at hand, we wouldn’t have to keep revisiting this topic. GSP’s corner broke the rules, it was unfair to BJ, and he didn’t like it; rightfully so. I can’t see how it should go any further than that.
"Well, yes, but I’m afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I’m afraid I have something of a mess on my hands." - Tobias Fünke
"There are just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence." - Michael Bluth
One of my favorite lines from the best TV show ever.
GSP’s corner broke the rules, it was unfair to BJ, it was corrected in the manner outlined in said rules.
That’s how far it should go, but to understand the discussion you have to realize that the implicit “GSP beat BJ fair and square, and he didn’t like it” that comes after where it should end are the problem.
And you’re obviously a Penn fanboy who will continue to whine, complain, and invent your own facts to try and make people believe cheating took place, when it’s officially been concluded that it did not.
We all know what happenned, and it’s something that has happenned in fights before, even by UFC employed cutman Stitch Duran, and it also happened since, with Anderson Silva vs. Leites. Rules were clarified since then, and we all move on. But just as BJ Penn’s eye poking is a rule violation, but not intentional cheating, neither is this case.
by Hardcharger on Mar 16, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
this is interesting. i never really thought about grease being on both fighters anyways, but you’re right. Both fighters get gobs of vaseline applied to their faces before the fight. one goes for a double-leg, plants his forehead in the other guy’s chest, BOOM, that guy has grease. guy number 2 then takes guy number 1’s back and brushes his forhead across dud’es back in a scramble, BOOM, that guy has grease on his back. then they grapple around and it gets everywhere. i actually am not a fan of GSP, but unless he was using some super-special-secret-sauce-grease, and not just vaseline, then what does it really matter? on second thought, even if he did was using astroglide, it woulda gotten on BJ once they grappled for a bit, and BOOM, he’s greasing too. that being said, in the spirit of the sport, one shouldn’t have extra grease pre-applied, but it seems like it would end up not really mattering. John Madden BOOM rant over
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
I thought I put this same thing up in a fanpost earlier? : P
"I dont believe in an eye for an eye, I believe in two eyes for an eye" – Bas Rutten
By
replacing it with their own, clearly superior, posting.
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 15, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Do they even advertise this game on tv?
I cant rember if i have ever seen a commercial for the first game?
Sarcasm?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 15, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
no hehe
i seriouslhy cant rember if i seen commercials for the first one on tv? or on the interent.
i saw a million for the first game
none for this yet but why advertise 2 months ahead and its on the front page of just about every video game website today , this games getting treated as a pretty big deal it’ll sell a shitload
Was this commercial approved by his mommy?
Is there an option where you can accuse your opponent of greasing after a loss? I think there should be.
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
Is there an option on this website where you can just ban people who talk shit about fighters that they would never dare to their face?…..I think there should be.
Ha ha ha ha ha
Mom complaining and greasing jokes you guys are about as original as “In Soviet Russia” jokes
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 15, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
first your anti- The Wire, now Russian jokes….I can’t help but begin to take this personally.
From now on whatever event I am planning will be know as the ‘Bas Rutten Invitational ____’
I retracted all statements about The Wire. The Yakov imitation jokes are getting old at this point
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 15, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
In Soviet Russia, jokes get tired of you.
"an excellent example of why most MMA "journalism" is a joke. Pseudonyms like "toxic" and shitty writing like that dopey article"--- Joe Rogan.
by toxic on Mar 15, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Its a left high kick out of nowhere and McGreevy is down and out!
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
by Day Man on Mar 15, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ahahaha.
Okay, I laughed at that one
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 15, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, can’t wait until this phone gets Flash.:’(
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
if u cant watch it ur not missing much
its a 45 second highlight of bjs career with 15 accumulated seconds of gameplay thrown in throughout it, and no features we havent seen yet
Can be matched...but...
those skills can be utterly dominated to such an extant that you embarrass yourself.
i saw a gogo at like 33 seconds
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.--
Napolean Bonaparte
Me too.
This might be the only submission I use………………
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
Somewhere, GSP is not impressed.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Mar 15, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Preview
Have they announced whether they’re going to release a preview version like they did for the 2009 version? The game is to be released in a little bit more than 2 months so I’d expect the preview to be released fairly soon, right?
isn't that shot of him with the belt...
… from after the diego fight, when he was wearing the replica version?
That is a helluva a codpiece he’s got there.
"an excellent example of why most MMA "journalism" is a joke. Pseudonyms like "toxic" and shitty writing like that dopey article"--- Joe Rogan.
fuck ps3 will have 3 legends exclusivly
shitty 360
Royce Gracie, Dan Severn and Jens Pulver
have to buy a ps3 just for Severn
XBox 360 should offer to pay to get Don Frye and Bas Rutten in their version.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
360 owners get
JT Money, Junie Brownie and Joe Son. I hear they get Da Da 5000 with a pre-order.
by CSKit on Mar 15, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Junie “Brownie” was not an intentional misspelling, my daughter was asking if I would bake some brownies with her when I was typing it, lol.
Queue up the Lonley Island
And I jizz in my pants
Firefrankwren.com: It's gonna happen this offseason
I was at work when i remembered this was coming out today
I thought it was gonna be an actual trailer, disappointed to see it was a BJ Penn Self-Fellatio montage.
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