Today on MMA Nation on 106.7 The Fan: Scott Christ, Pacquiao/Boxing Talk, UFC in April Rumors, More
by Luke Thomas on Mar 14, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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Today on "MMA Nation" we'll be joined by the Editor-in-Chief Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook. We'll talk to Christ about last night's Pacquiao vs. Clottey fight, James Toney signing with the UFC and HBO's claim that there is only a 5 percent crossover between the MMA and boxing audiences.
We'll also go deeper into potential UFC vs. Strikeforce in April talk as well as cover all the news from the week in MMA.
"MMA Nation" will air tonight 9:00pm EST to 11:00pm EST on 106.7 The Fan. To listen live over the Internet, go to The Fan's website and click "Listen Live".
I'm also on Twitter: @mmanation.
"MMA Nation" is also available by podcast on iTunes. For now, iTunes is disabled, but the show will be posted on the station's website soon afterward. I'll be sure to put a post up when they're ready to go. And when we're back on iTunes, I'll put up a link to that as well.
Number to call: 800-636-1067
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Talk to you then.
UPDATE: Well, I just now found out the show is being pushed to the HD signal due to whatever it's due to. Unless you've got an HD tuner and live in DC, you'll have to wait for the podcasts.
People don't like it when I complain about being on HD radio, but candidly, you don't have the slightest clue how unbelievably frustrating this is. So, if you're outside of the area, just wait for the podcasts. That's the best I can do.
UPDATE II: EB from The Sports Junkies had an excellent idea: stream the show live over UStream.tv. So, that's what we're going to try. I've never done it before, so I'll need folks to tell me if it's working or not. Here's my channel. I'm going to try to embed the player right here on BE. Stay tuned.
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I'm really sorry
Unfortunately there’s nothing I can do about it. Let’s see how this UStream thing works out.
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Keep your head up Luke. We love the show.
Shut up, Tito.
by TruthSeeker1223 on Mar 14, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Listening via Ustream, enjoying it quite well actually.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
very voyeuristic. Shows how much is really going on in the background. Good stuff.
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Close call on that phone number. Glad Luke caught it, I’d be bummed if the plug was pulled on the live stream on the first try. I’ve never listened live before, but I’m digging the live stream.
And DAMN does Luke look like Matt Brown. It’s creepy. But if there was anyone you could end up being a look alike for, Matt Brown’s not so bad. He could look like Josh Barnett…image how that one would go over.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The good news is, theres not a lot anyone can say about the Manny fight that isn’t already blatantly obvious. I don’t think we’re missing a whole bunch. :)
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We can't hear your caller Luke!!!!!!!!!
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We understand
Was just letting you know brother.Keep up the good work!
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Remember people this was just set up a lil while ago, they need more time to set up everything for a stream
Oh yeah, I’m not complaining. I’ll take hearing half of the conversation over not hearing anything at all, any day.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
TJ Desantis on Sherdog radio
Honestly believes that James Toney would stand a decent chance of KO’ing Randy Couture and would “destroy” Cro Cop.
People have crazy man love for boxers.I guess TJ totally forgot about UFC 1-10.
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I don’t like Cro Cop’s chances in any fight at this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Toney cracked him hard and ended it early. But Randy…nah. I see Randy winning that 8/10 times. I give those other two times to Toney, simply because Randy can get caught, and Toney is a boxer, not just any boxer, but one who has seen championship gold.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Although randy is slowing down and has been getting tagged in his last few fights, 20 seconds after the bell rang he’d have Toney in a clinch and that would be the end.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
Thats what I’m thinking. But, Toney would know this, and look to knock his head off.
I don’t think Toney would ever win against either guy, but I keep an open mind with this sort of thing. And Cro Cop, well, keep expectations low, and it won’t hurt as bad when he’s on the mat staring at the lights Gonzaga style.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Couture would avoid the upper body clinch
For that very reason.He’s no dummy.He knows Toney would have a very hard time defending a low double or single.Randy has been wrestling for 40 years.He can take down Toney with anything he wants.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Ankle Pick, for the win! Randy might be Greco Roman wrestling, but he knows what to do.
I’d really love to see Toney get wrecked by Couture.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Boxer’s can’t handle getting kicked,at all.Watch every boxer who has gone into K-1.Look at Ray Mercer against Bonjasky,for example.Cro Cop would just kick Toney’s leg’s out from under him,Yoshida style.
Randy would just shoot a quick low double on Toney (to avoid his hands),hit him a couple times from on top,make him roll over,and tap him with a RNC.That’s exactly how it would go down,every time.Exactly like every striker vs grappler match from the early UFCs.
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It really depends on how a fighter follows a gameplan, If Couture tries to test him he can get tagged. Even CroCop might try to submit Toney
Cro Cop actually has some of the nastiest ground and pound in the heavy weight division.If he took down Toney,it would be ugly.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Trust me
He could beat up James Toney on the floor.Dude has some wicked hammer fists.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say, he really surprised me in that last fight of his. Sure the dude was a total can, but it was nice seeing Mirko go for the kill when he realized his opponent wasn’t getting away.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Boxers
The one thing that boxing fans, and boxers themselves seem to ignore, is that the whole premise of boxing more or less becomes completely null in MMA. Yes, you will use your hands to hit an opponent…but, many defensive techniques have to be modified. You can’t bob and weave freely, due to kicks and knees…the whole game is different.
A PURE boxer in MMA, is a dead man. Now, if say, a boxer were to do for boxing, what Machida did for karate…that would be a scary individual.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
It’d have to be a guy like Larry Holmes-a great boxer,with good footwork,with a background in wrestling.Holmes in his prime would have been a beast of an MMA fighter with the proper training.
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I don’t doubt that we’ll see a fighter like this emerge in the next three years. He’ll be insanely popular.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Junior Dos Santos has some promise.
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bows down to Luke’s improvisation skills
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On Topic
I gotta say, I can see the WEC getting folded into the UFC before Strikeforce dies. If the UFC could turn the WEC belts into the quality belts of their current weightclasses, many of their scheduling troubles would be fixed. Not to mention more draws for their PPV’s.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
whats up with the HD channel
i was listening on the HD station and now its back to broadcasting the baltimore affiliates local program i love the orioles but sunday nights 9-11 is all about MMA
Phone number spotted. Anyone catch that???
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
I’m going to laugh my ass off if Vera wins. The Jones Hype train is almost identical to the Vera Hate train…
There would be mass hysteria.
Vera is a very game opponent…cannot count him out at all.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
The Jones Hype train is almost identical to the Vera Hate train…
This is very true. haha.
This fight will be closer than most people think, and certainly much closer than what the odds portray.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
welcome to the MMA Nation experiment Weo3!
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i've been listening for a while now,
I just haven’t been commenting, but this Ustream idea is great.
If we could only hear the callers, it would be even more awesome.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha! I should have known you’d turn up right when Vera was mentioned. Really though, Vera is in a “Shit, or get off the pot” kind of situation, and I think him dropping a big ole’ deuce on the LHW division is more likely than him just fading into C level fighter territory.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Vera sleeps through all his big fights
He’ll stand at the finish line and watch as Jones crosses it.
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I actually think Dos Santos vs Gonzaga is the sexiest fight on the card
Gonzaga is the toughest fight of Dos Santos’ career thus far.He’s a real test on the feet for him,and if Gonzaga gets him to the mat,he WILL tap him.It will be a great,competitve fight.
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Someone with a bar in DC
Needs to hook Othello up with a good time to bar tend that isn’t on Sunday evenings so that he can help out with this show.
Bellator
Is a great fit for Huerta, in my opinion. Especially if he’s really trying to get into acting. And I’m down for having an active comment section while watching/listening to the stream. Good topics for discussion, might as well discuss.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
I think Huerta's got a good chance of winning that tourney is he takes it seriously
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing is certain…it’s gonna be fun as hell to watch.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen brother.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
very true.
He should be the favorite to win it, and if he does, I would LOVE to see the fight against Alvarez… It would really see how he, (an good-average UFC LW) stacks up against a guy who people rank as number 4 in the world.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Vera,
he just tweeted:
Thank you to everyone following me… about 7 days and a couple of hours left and it’s my last night here in Big Bear. Sad, but, not really lol. Excited to get off the mountain and get to Denver. Have a good night and God bless… Take care of you and yours.
I can’t help but like Vera. There’s been disappointments, but, his potential keeps bringing me back.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems like a cool ass dude
….but he makes me want to scream at my TV sometimes…
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Oh yeah, I agree. Thats the frustrating part. He HAS THE TOOLS. But he just drops the ball mid fight.
He’ll either learn to use his skills, or he’ll fade out of relevancy.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
at times, I keep on screaming,
use those fI^%$^#% leg kickssssss!
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
Gonzaga is going to sleepy town.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Gonzaga via Mirko CroCop headkick?
Dos Santos has his hands a bit low at times, and maybe Gonzaga can catch him too?
I doubt it though… Cigano via dynamite fists cause I think Gonzaga will stand with him for too long.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, maybe. But I can see him getting overwhelmed much more than I see him stopping JDS.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Kongo/Buentello
Fun fight, it serves it’s purpose well.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
I'm really not looking forward to that fight...
that gets a “mehhh” rating for me.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll see what you say after you watch it. :)
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah,
I think it’s going to be fun to watch, but I’m not really looking forward to see it… Dos Santos, and Vera fights though, I’m reallyyyyyyyy excited about.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Kongo is going to take Paul's lunch money
Just watch the Overeem fight.I don’t seem any reason why Kongo couldn’t do the exact same thing.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I know,
Buentello has nothing on Kongo… that’s also part of the reason I’m not excited for this fight.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonzaga has a great jaw
He’s only been put down by Carwin.Against Couture and Werdum,he got beat down over the course of several minutes,then got TKO’ed after he went to the fetal position.
I like Dos Santos to beat down Gonzaga over a long period of time,and stop him in the third round.
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Couture and Werdum aren't exactly great strikers/powerful strikers...
and I think Dos Santos has Carwin-esque power, or close to it, and far better boxing technique.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Dos Santos couldn't even knock down Cro Cop
Unless he hits Gonzaga with an uppercut from hell,he’ll end up beating him down and making him quit over the course of 10-12 minutes.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Cro Cop,compared to Gonzaga,is ultra fragile
And Dos Santos couldn’t even knock him down.Once.He wobbled him a few times,but never dropped him.Now you’re telling me he’s going to make a guy with an iron jaw go to lah-lah land?
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Iron jaw?
cause powerful strikers Couture and Werdum couldn’t drop him? that’s your basis?
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Couture and Werdum didn't drop him
Couture took him down and TKO’ed him after beating him up for 10 minutes.In the Werdum fight,Gonzaga literally sat down to avoid taking any more knees.In both cases,he ended up in the fetal position,covering up,and got TKO’ed.
That has nothing to do with your jaw.That has to do with your heart,and your willingness/ability to take punishment.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he has a weak jaw..
but saying that he has an “iron jaw” because 2 guys without much power couldn’t drop him, is a weak argument.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say that
I’m saying he’s got an iron jaw because he’s taken a lot of good shots over a pretty long career.Note that he didn’t get stopped in the fights against Couture and Werdum until he got tired.That had more to do with it than anything.
I mean,c’mon-he got slammed by Couture,his own knee came down incredibly hard and smashed his own nose flat as a pancake,and he managed to scramble back to his feet literally 2 seconds later-with Randy Couture trying to hold him down.
I’m not saying Dos Santos can’t knock him out,I’m just saying he’s most likely going to have to wear him down with a lot of shots.I don’t think he’s going to go in there and hit him with one shot like Carwin did and put his lights out,unless it’s an uppercut thrown from last week.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
First sentence got mangled.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I see it going much like how the Yvel fight went down.
Unless Gonzaga lands a miracle head kick, or wants to take him down immediately (doubt it), then were in unknown territory and that’s hard to predict.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think he drops him with a grazing punch then misses with everything after that?
C’mon,Gonzaga is a quality heavyweight.He’s going to stick around for awhile against Cigano,espically with the threat of a takedown.
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I think he just gave Mirko too much respect, he was awkwardly cautious.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes luke, it's because of the live video stream.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
Its right there on BE which makes it so much easier to access
As opposed to following links to the the Fan website etc.
Luke, it's cause people don't have to go to another website and click listen live, to get audio..
now, they just go to BE, and watch the video. it’s easier and more interesting to the random guy visiting the site.
I can really see myself coming back to comment as I listen…I’ve enjoyed the experience.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
same here.
(or maybe it has to do with more people [you] commenting more also)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Awww, shucks. haha
And what is Luke talking about? Salty Asses in HD?
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
M-1 on the show? Oh god. Fun!!!
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
Luke it going to end up with a Russian hit man on his trail if he isn't careful LOL
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by Brian Mayes on Mar 14, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That, or barking dogs, wind, and constant hang ups.
Is that press conference audio still around? I need to download it.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Almost 100 comments for an MMA Nation post. Isn’t this unheard of?
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
I guess I should stop spamming now.
haha :P
My recent goal was to actually comment less on posts now since I’ve found out that I already have a total of 11115 comments in BE in less than 1 and 1/2 years. But liveblog-ish posts makes it harder to stay away. haha :)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, compared to some of the lovely comments that have been popping up lately, with the influx of trolls…I don’t think you’ll hear anyone complain.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
that's also part
of why I’m trying to comment less.. some of the newer guys who troll annoy me a lot… Especially when they all come out in full force on every Fedor/Brock/Toney/M-1 article and even posts by Kid Nate. haha
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 14, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
First, love this format. Its a great addition and the bugs will get worked out. You can interact with live internet fans without alienating your HD listener.
Second, more to the “listener” point. Yes I understand that there are likely more people in studio then listening on HD radio. Its brand new and you have a niche show. I also understand you have great difficulties with the show getting on air. This is another issue not related to the HD radio format. Its brand new and having a show at all is much better then no show. Bitch all you want about problems you have and not being on the regular station. But bashing the format is awkward as hell. You are basically a good tool for selling the HD format. Don’t make people feel like mooks because they have one.
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