Nearly 51,000 at the Pacquiao fight?
by jakedd on Mar 14, 2010 3:58 AM EST
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afraid? thoughts?
Manny Pacquiao and Joshua Clottey battled in Texas. Steve Bien-Aime blogged all the action.
Clottey makes his way to the ring. He looks composed, but he doesn't look entirely relaxed. A question that needs to be answered is how does Clottey handle the big stage?
Pacquiao is next. He looks a little more serious than in his previous fights, but he again has a giant smile on his face. He slaps hands with a few fans. Cowboys Stadium is definitely the right venue for Pacquiao.
Round 1
Very cautious start. Clottey is fighting a very defensive fight. He's landing the jab -- when he decides to throw it, which is infrequently. Pacquiao is struggling to break Clottey's guard. Pacquiao is dedicated to hitting Clottey's body. Pacquiao is the initiator so far.
Round 2
Pacquiao continues to press Clottey, who's really not doing too much. Clottey is landing some stiff shots, but neither fighter is making a big impression yet. However, Pacquiao's aggressiveness is the story of the fight.
Round 3
Both fighters are starting to land a little bit more. If Clottey thinks he'll finish Pacquiao with one big shot, he's wrong. Pacquiao's body work could pay big dividends later. Clottey's just not doing enough.
Round 4
Clottey went through a minute stretch where he didn't throw any punches. Pacquiao continues to pound away, but he's not landing much cleanly. Clottey finishes the round with a big flourish, but he appears to be falling far behind on the scorecards.
Round 5
It's not looking good for Clottey. Pacquiao took his foot off the gas and he still looks like he won the round. Clottey is landing crisp punches, but one or two at every 30 seconds won't beat Pacquiao. Clottey has got to let his hands go.
Round 6
Clottey is fighting his fight and is losing badly. He's not hurt, but Pacquiao is dominating with his whirlwind style. In this round, Clottey didn't land anything of value.
Round 7
Pacquiao again looks like he took the round off and dominated. Clottey needs to bull Pacquiao against the ropes and let his hands go. The crowd of 51,000 has been pretty quiet. I can't blame them. One guy is fighting, the other one wants to just go the distance.
Round 8
A headbutt and a low blow were the most eventful action. Pacquiao chased Clottey around the ring, breaking his guard a bit. Clottey looked like he threw two punches in the final 45 seconds. Does he know this is the biggest opportunity of his life?
Round 9
Pacquiao is fighting in bursts and even that's impressive. I think he knows a knockout won't come, but he's giving the fans a show with some nice combinations. It looks like Clottey knows he won't win either.
Round 10
All the credibility Clottey got from his June fight with Miguel Cotto is out the window. He's not doing anything. Pacquiao is continuing to swarm Clottey and his accuracy is improving. Pacquiao must be in phenomeonal condition. He's still going strong.
Round 11
What a display by Pacquiao! Clottey tried to step it up and Pacquiao showed him why's the best the in the world. The combinations and aggression are too much for Clottey.
Round 12
Clottey might have done enough to avoid a shutout. There's only one fight we want to see and this wasn't it.
Pacquiao wins by unanimous decision .
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/03/14/pacquiao-dominates-clottey/
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this article is the biggest troll job ever. end of story
"For some reason Dana White doesn't like me, and I don't care enough to find out why. So he can go pound sand up his ass as far as I'm concerned."
Don Frye
by keyboardwarrior on Mar 16, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
"no MMA event has come close to this number."
Seriously? Have you missed soo many events in Japan?
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by FR702 on Mar 14, 2010 4:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I’m not sure you understand how this works.
Unless I’m missing how shockwave 2002 at the tokyo dome directly relates to the seating capacity of the saitama super arena.
That really confused you? He is saying Shockwave 2002 at the Tokyo Dome had an attendance of greater than 70k. Final Countdown in 2003 also did more than 65k.
"For some reason Dana White doesn't like me, and I don't care enough to find out why. So he can go pound sand up his ass as far as I'm concerned."
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 15, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, K-1 Dynamite USA came pretty close close with 42k
"For some reason Dana White doesn't like me, and I don't care enough to find out why. So he can go pound sand up his ass as far as I'm concerned."
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by keyboardwarrior on Mar 15, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
As a frame of reference, how did Dynamite! 2009 (or whatever this year’s Dynamite! was) do? While the OP’s disputed claim isn’t factually correct, the crowds Japanese MMA is able to pull today would seem to be more relevant to this subject than what it was able to pull 7-8 years ago.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait until the UFC goes to hawaii at Aloha stadium. I think it is simply the venue and a locale that isn’t usually a host to this type of event.
I agree with you. Sometimes it’s just the right venue in the right place. I imagine they’ll pack Madison Square Garden or Fenway Park. Those are regions and venues just waiting to get a show. Might not clear 50,000, but if N.Y. legalizes, I’d expect a huge draw there immediately.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2010 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
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by vivero on Mar 14, 2010 6:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
???
Afraid? Um…hello? As people had already stated, Pride was doing these numbers in Japan.
Boxing is known for it’s big fights. They have fewer shows, and bigger venues, along with a superstar like Manny, this equals big turnouts. I’m getting real tired of this constant MMA vs. Boxing angle.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 14, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions
When the UFC finally goes to Onatrio
it’s a damn near guarantee to sell out the 69,000 seats at the Skydome.
So this is cool for boxing, but it’s not really a big deal.
by The Flying Gentleman on Mar 14, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
But selling 50k in North America is a massive achivement for "one boxer"
—especially since Boxing is considered dead.
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Dana White
has stated that he wants to stay away from big venues. Sure you can sell 50,000 tickets but you will lose the atmosphere, that atmosphere is what makes UFC events incredible to attend. If you put the fans too far from the action you rob them of the experience.
As the Flying Gentlemen stated above, put GSP on a card in Canada and it would sell out any stadium in the country.
by Riney on Mar 14, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
plus, Dana White usually gives away a shitload of tickets for free. The demand to fill the seats at UFCs in Vegas and California is usually less than the number of seats at the venue. Maybe thats why they don’t go for the monster venues.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 15, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sure
that the UFC would have sold 90,000 tickets for 100 if they decided too. Nice try though.
Well, you can imagine whatever you want; I won’t stop you.
The UFC usually sells out venues when it breaks into new markets. It doesn’t mean there is the demand to sell out every UFC they hold.
The fact is that DW gives away alot of tickets, particularly for the Cali and Vegas shows. Part of the reason he does that is that it is good promoting. Another part of the reason is that the UFC often doesn’t sell out its shows in those locales. Hell, often enough the casino’s the fights are held in comp a number of their guests, just to have asses in the seats.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 16, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
afraid?
Why would MMA fans be scared of a sub-par boxing fight? It’s great that they got 51000 people into the stadium but when you get right down to the most important thing about what this fight represented was said at the end.
There’s only one fight we want to see and this wasn’t it
Honestly this told us more about the current state of the sport of boxing than about MMA. They gave us the wrong fight.
by who me on Mar 14, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, in Boxing/ MMA's defense
they simply don’t have the drawing power that Pope John Paul II has. Maybe if Brock defends his title a few more times then we can talk =]
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 16, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Title needs to be changed to ....
Nearly 51,000 witness awful ‘fight’.
by Steve4192 on Mar 14, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love boxing, but it’s not growing at all right now and is really taking many steps backwards.
There are maybe 2 giys in boxing that can draw these types of crowds. You can’t even watch HW boxing anymore save for the internet.
Boxing is in trouble.
Boxing's focus
—isn’t on the failing HW division anymore. America’s time for the great HW has came and gone. The lighter divisions are selling the tickets.
Their are tons of Boxers who sell out arena’s between 15-20k. That just goes to show you that Boxing doesn’t need a stacked undercard to sell tickets when everyone came to see just one fight. Surely, it shouldn’t be that way, but Boxing always survived on mediocre undercards compared to their giant finale.
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one thing is clear...
this was written but someone obsessed with the boxing vs. MMA angle (Which is old, worn out, and all together stupid since they are two VERY different sports aside from sharing the category of combat) , and clearly favors boxing. however, only looking at what is in front of your face, rather than doing 30 seconds worth of googling to realize that everything he is saying makes him look like an uninformed, one-sided, biased moron.
Scared? what the hell would any MMA fan be scared of? that boxing puts on MAYBE one big fight per year, and we give it the respect it deserves? that boxing is hemorrhaging fans at an alarming rate? I’d say the title of thsi article is indicating that it is actually YOU who is scared. In psychology, we call that PROJECTION. You are projecting the fears you have within yourself onto others to compensate.
Are you afraid that we see through your bullshit?
by Opposites Attack on Mar 15, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Why would a fan of MMA be afraid of a boxing match that had very good attendance? It just doesn’t make sense.
Anyone who’s invested in MMA vs Boxing and is on the MMA side would be delighted by that insomnia curing “fight”. The fact that so many eyes saw such a mediocre (and thats putting it nicely) match (and undercard, for that matter) could only be a good thing for MMA.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Mar 16, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
Imagine if the UFC held an event at the Los Angeles Coliseum instead of the Staples Center. Now that’d be an incredible turnout.
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no MMA event has come close to this number.
afraid? thoughts?
Seriously? This is your entire contribution to the fanpost that wasn’t cut & pasted from Fox News’ website? This isn’t even a good troll.
Aside from being flat out wrong (see above), if UFC 100 had been held in a stadium that size it would have sold it out too. Except the fans would have gotten their money’s worth. Nothing against Pacquiao, but it takes two people to make it a fight, and even the commentators admitted the undercard was a joke.
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