Ryan Bader, CB Dolloway and Aaron Simpson Leave Arizona Combat Sports
by Nick Thomas on Mar 13, 2010 1:47 AM EST
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The move by the three UFC competitors and Arizona State alums comes at a curious time as all are coming off the biggest wins of their careers. Bader defeated Keith Jardine via third round TKO at UFC 110, Dolloway took home a unanimous decision that same night against Goran Reljic and Simpson defeated Tom Lawlor at UFC Fight Night 20 in January.Jamie Varner responds on the UG:
"I've been at AZ combat for 6 years now this gym builds fighters from the ground up! None of those guys would be where they are with out there training partners and the Lallys! Some douche bags like to talk shit but our gym is battle tested and proven! When Riggs left he started losing and got cut from the UFC. When Fickett got kicked out he started losing and got kicked out of the UFC! I’m very interested to see what happens with those guys I wish them nothing but the best in there careers, but they made a HUGE mistake!"HT: Mmamadness.com, fozo
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Woah Where would they go?
by thisredengine
Hmmmm My money is on them joining the Jackson Cult.
by Deo Wade
Even after Bader just did this:
by fozo
How could I forget that? ATT maybe?
by Deo Wade
didn’t efrain and bader train either at ATT or with the nogueria brothers after winning the show? seem to remember seeing that mentioned somewhere.
by woooburn
there can only be one ultimate d-bag in every camp and there’s no way any of them are gonna top varner.
by woooburn
I never realised how utterly wide open Jardine left himself in the above knockout. Really odd. It’s like he was rocked by the knee which didn’t even look like it hit him. He wasn’t even close to either blocking the punch or getting the clinch on Bader. I must be missing something here. Why would he leave himself so incredibly open?
Because he was already rocked hard from an earlier punch not shown in that GIF. Bader caught him good but didn’t capitalize immediately. When Jardine stumbled back, Bader realized he was hurt from the punch and charged in with the flying knee and eventually the knockout.
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by in the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito Ortiz
by CasualMMAFan on Mar 13, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
And, on top of that, Jardine has a tendency to drop his right hand; it’s part of that awkward punch that he throws from his hip that comes at weird angles. But people have realized that and he keeps getting tagged in the same way. Rampage twice caught him with his right hand down, once knocking him down and once staggering him badly.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
That's basically their whole camp
Who’s even left? Varner and who else. There must be something else to this story.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
huh
Didn’t Varner start his own camp/gym recently?
by Patrick John McGreevy on Mar 12, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions
yeah
he opened a gym in new york
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by Matthew Roth on Mar 12, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I predict our 3 wise men will end up at Xtreme Couture.
Keep firing Assholes!
Blackout is always right
My money is on them going to greg jackson's
with former teammate Carlos Condit..
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 12, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Looking past Bader giving Jardine the Stanky Leg
I think Jackson could turn Bader into a World Beater.
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@deowade
they already fought, so there's no reason for them to get at it again,
(unless Rashad wants to take revenge at him too haha)
so I think it’s possible..
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 12, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what's going on at AZCS
Probably nothing good if this trio is leaving together. I wonder what happened.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by mburtoni on Mar 12, 2010 10:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They realized they’re better wrestlers than that gym is worth sticking around
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
They all wanted to grapple and Varner has noone to box
Renzo Gracie: I was doing this when BJ was on his fathers nutsack.
by SerraJitsu0876 on Mar 13, 2010 10:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Bader loss hurts
CB was one loss away from getting cut and A-train while a monster is at an age that makes it tough for him to improve to where he can be a force but Bader is a legit LHW contender and a walking ad for AZCS.
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
lol, no way CB was one loss away from getting cut, (think Mac Danzig).
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
Man CB gets no recognition
Look at this dude’s skillset. He’s sharp in ALL areas. He’s made some slip-ups but CB is still one of the better TUF alums of the past several years.
It’s amazing how far “I don’t like that guy” can go. Complete blindness to ability.
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by bonez2799 on Mar 13, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dolloway’s questions are never about ability. They’re about his mental slip-ups. He’s got a ton of potential and is already a really good fighter, but if he wants to be a contender, he has work to do.
That said, he wasn’t getting cut.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
He will always be an underachiever
Its not in his abilities, its in his attitude. He wreaks of “I am on top” when he is miles from it, just because he was a AZU wrestler and all that garbage. He needs to eats some humble pie, but probably never will because he has bought all the hype everyone has been feeding him about how great he is.
But as far as I can see, losing 2 times in a row to 0-0 WW Amir Sodallah will be a very tough shadow to come out from under
It’s amazing how far “dur” can go to blind someone into not realizing midwestbred made a comparison between a TUF winner and a TUF supposed-to-win in terms of their contracts with the UFC.
Didn’t they have some sort of situation where the gym would pay them a salary (for a few years at this point) and then the purses would go mostly to the gym?
I could have sworn that I read that at some point. i could see why that would be very helpful earlier in their careers, but might not be the best choice once you have a decent contract form the UFC.
good point
You’re right. I don’t remember the details, but I remember that being part of the appeal originally for those guys to join there.
Thats Team Takedown
of which Johnny Hendricks is a part. They give you a salary, help you out with rent / car payments, give you lots of perks etc. in exchange for a percentage of each purse. Not sure about the details.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
Must be ATT
Cain’s there.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Shit
AKA. Beer.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Mar 12, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
As far as these three go, I am predicting that they are going to form their own gym/camp
It wouldn’t surprise me seeing these three at some other well-known camp like AKA, ATT, Jackson’s, Black House Gym, or just somewhere else. I am just guessing at this point, but seeing these three fighters’ success, it just wouldn’t surprise me to see them forming their own camp/gym.
As long as they go anywhere but Jackson’s! Damn, I do not want Jon, Rashad, Keith and Bader all on the same team if they won’t fight each other.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 13, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Thats what I was thinking
I think that each of these guys have an Ego (although it may be warented), and I can see them forming their own camp
If they did go to jacksons, we could have another aka situation with evans, jones, and bader. No bueno.
by rampage.yo on Mar 12, 2010 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Varner came to train and got grappled.
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
Correction
He came to fight and they trained like girls.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Mar 13, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
They didn’t realize how far they’d be able to go in MMA. It’s not like their gym is unknown, Jay Glazer trains/writes about it all the time along with Matt Leinart and other AZ Cardinals. Needless to say that’s just my thoughts.
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
Wooooooooooow :o
If a trio of fighters defined their camp, these guys WERE ACS. Crazy news!
I’d like to know WHY they left and WHERE they plan to go. It can’t be the training via ACS is churning out top prospects left and right. Rather, turning prospects into competitive A-listers. My guess is management/treatment. I know about a million reporters will clamor for an interview so hopefully someone says something. I gotta know why a couple of my fav fighters have left one of my fav gyms!
Make some wonder if Condit ACTUALLY left for the personal reasons he alleged or if that was just a politically correct explanation.
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Ok so here's the deal....
My gf’s brother is Eddie vazquez a boxing/mma trainer who use to be a trainer at AZCS. He’s now training Henry cejudo for his MMA debut and these dudes who left AZCS will now be trainning with them. They might hold it down at the lions den in scottsdale until they find their own spot. And yay I get to train with them too. Oh shiiit!
J mackin Roe 623
by JRO623 on Mar 13, 2010 12:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Is that a comment with actual useful info in it?
JRO, you’re not going to last long around here if you keep that up.
(Sarcasm turned off. Thanks for the inside dope.)
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by The Kittitas Kid on Mar 13, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
It's legit sir.
Edgar called me to tell me like around 3pm yesterday. And no joke he is training henry cejudo at central boxing here in Phoenix. Bellator is tryin to sign Henry. All sorts of madness going on over here.
J mackin Roe 623
by JRO623 on Mar 13, 2010 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also CB did look excellent in his last fight. Jesus. He made Goran look amauteurish. Goran is a big dangerous mofo as well. Out kicking him too. Look for CB to start making an impact in 185 as long as he got his sub defense down now.
Goran was out for almost 2 years, had serious back injury and this was his first cut to 185. Maybe it’s just me but I’m not that impressed with win over him. CB looked good though.
by dancingChicken on Mar 13, 2010 5:03 AM EST up reply actions
CB has never NOT looked good
Okay it was pretty miserable watching him leave limbs and necks out for the taking…but I don’t recall a single point in any fight where I would say with confidence “CB Dollaway is losing this fight” quite the contrary.
I find myself getting too defensive for this guy lol…I guess I’ll just leave it at that. War Doberman! ;p
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I’m waiting to hear what Jay Glazer has to say. He’s been apart of ACS for a long time and has introduced athletes such as Matt Leinart to MMA style workouts. Not that he’s the bottom line to what is going on but he’s a knowledgeable resource that I feel trustworthy.
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
Funny
How Fight! magazine just had an article about ACS in their latest issue, and it listed 6 prominent fighters (Bader, Dollaway, Simpson, Condit, Varner and Steve Steinbeiss) and now 4 of those fighters have moved on
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