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ST-PIERRE <> SERRA
BURNS <> JOHNSON

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-I found a site that hosts super large images so you guys won't be subjected to squinting at this thing anymore.  Instead, you can scroll through a giant mural!  If the new host is too manly for you, click here for the flickr format.

-The graph does a great job demonstrating the logjam at the top of the division.  Assuming Georges St-Pierre gets through Dan Hardy (and that's not exactly a leap of faith), no one really stands as a fresh challenger.  Unless Paul Daley gets through Josh Koscheck, that is.

-It's interesting that Dana White has been dropping hints that B.J. Penn could see a more traditional jump to welterweight after "cleaning out" the lightweight division.  Since, you know, GSP might be taking his second lap around 170. 

-I love that Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves have taken unique career progressions since their first fight.  They share one common opponent since their 2006 encounter.  That is?

-Paul Daley's KO over Dustin Hazelett isn't represented on the graph.  Why?  He failed to make weight.  Them's the breaks.

-The lack of loops in this division freaks me out.

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So Paulo Thiago doesn’t stand out if he beats Kampmann? He just beat Swick and Hardy got a title shot after beating Swick.

by Polyhedron on Mar 12, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Depends on what happens against Kampmann, and how Daley/Kos turns out. I have a feeling the winner of the latter, even if its Kos, might find himself next in line after Hardy. There’s also Alves/Fitch to consider though.

by Hardcase on Mar 12, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

War Daley!

I’m not super confident that he’ll be able to solve Kos’s wrestling, but if he somehow manages to do so, he would make a more interesting matchup for GSP than his pal Hardy.

GSP would still be a huge favorite, natch, but a guy with legit one-punch knockout power in both hands would make things awfully interesting. Besides, I like his trash talk better than Hardy’s.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Monte Fisto on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

I understand the distinctions you’re making, but it still sounds like the exact same template that people are using for Hardy as a challenger, British guy and all.

by Hardcharger on Mar 12, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the major difference is the power

Even if Hardy catches GSP with a good shot, he hasn’t really shown that he has the power to make it a game changer. Daley, on the other hand, has shown just that. He catches GSP clean with that left crisp left hook, and GSP is going to sleep.

Now don’t get me wrong, I think Daley probably loses to Kos, much less GSP, since he’s pretty one dimensional and both of those guys have better wrestling than Jake Shields. But his one dimension looks to be a lot more impressive than Hardy’s.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Monte Fisto on Mar 12, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Shields (imo number 2 WW) managed to beat Daley fairly easily and he doesn’t have the striking acumen that GSP does.

www.mmalinker.com

by exsanguinator on Mar 12, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not here predicting that Daley beats GSP, or even Kos, but Jake was getting schooled on his feet in that fight. It wasn’t a blowout and it wasn’t an easy win. He did the right thing in shooting for that single leg and working from the mount (which is what both Kos and GSP should try to do).

As a an unrepentant Daley fanboy, I sincerely hope that Kos is int he mood to show off his “improved striking” against Semtex.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Monte Fisto on Mar 12, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

ask Rory Markham

about hardy’s lack of one-shot KO power

by Scott Haber on Mar 12, 2010 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree that Daley looks to be the more powerful of the 2 between he and Hardy, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say that him catching GSP will put GSP to sleep (and as you mentioned, it’s a big IF).

I do like Daley though, and am excited for his fight with Kos. After that, win or lose, I think there’s many more great matchups for him. Hopefully Daley will take his wrestling training serious and maybe take up Lawal on his offer to work with him on it.

by Hardcharger on Mar 12, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the bottom line

I’m a Paul Daley fan and will stay a Paul Daley fan regardless of what happens in his fight with Kos. He’s got a great style, and the slickest lead left hook in the game right now. I’d love to see him fight GSP for the title, but I’d also love to see him get in there and trade with Alves or Johnson or any of the other big hitters in the division.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Monte Fisto on Mar 12, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I am expecting Kos/Daley...

to look exactly like Kos/Johnson…with hopefully less eye pokes.

by Razreshat on Mar 12, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Johnson had better wrestling and Dailey got a way better stand up game, BUT yeah, it really could be the same.

"You hit too hard, too hard, too hard..."

by spectaa on Mar 12, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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