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UFC Primetime: St-Pierre vs. Hardy Live Discussion


UFC Primetime starts tonight on Spike at 10:00 PM EST. Join us for the part one and share your thoughts as the show unfolds.

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[UPDATE] - UFC 111 sells out according to Dana White:

Dan Hardy takes us into his home in England to watch the some fight footage of fellow Brit, Michael Bisping.
Take a car ride with the Welterweight Champ as he talks Olympic Hockey and friendly bets.
What does it take to be the best 170 lb. fighter in the world? Apparently high five pushups, which are just some techniques included in this footage of Georges St-Pierre's workout.

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Only Brits will understand thisbut this video is very “Royle Family”.

by An0nymous on Mar 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

"Royle Family" from wiki

The Royle Family is a popular, BAFTA award-winning1 television comedy drama produced by Granada Television for the BBC, which ran for three series between 1998 and 2000, with specials in 1999,2000,2006, 2008 and 2009.2 It is about the lives of a television fixated Manchester family, the Royles.
The series features simple production values and a stereotypical portrayal of state benefit dependent family life at the turn of the millennium. It, therefore, has something in common with kitchen sink drama. The scripts contain often banal conversations. Almost all of the episodes take place in the Royles’ home; most centre on the telly-centric living room.

by snakecharmer1340 on Mar 10, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Man British people seem so weird. I would hate to be stuck in that room it would be so uncomfortable.

by p123 on Mar 10, 2010 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

Racist towards a racist! Reported na ner na ner na ner

by p123 on Mar 10, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Being British isn’t a race. Buncha idiots around here.

twitter.com/thisredengine

by Matthew Roth on Mar 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Your sarcasm detector needs batteries.

by Dropkick434 on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe yours does? Or maybe mine does for this fourth level sarcasm? Or are my questions the seldom seen fifth level of sarcasm?

How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?

by Day Man on Mar 10, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

There are enough morons around here that playing the odds seems to be the way to go. Tons of people will make that racist claim so I feel okay with calling them idiots.

twitter.com/thisredengine

by Matthew Roth on Mar 10, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You love to talk about how dumb the posters are around here. If you are dissatisfied with the quality of the comments, post somewhere else.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So I'm the only one who finds the trolling ridiculous?

Doubtful. And when people call nationalities races yeah, that qualifies as a idiotic comment. When people talk MMA I have no qualms.

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by Matthew Roth on Mar 10, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

There was no reason to call him an idiot. And there is no reason to constantly deride the comment section. You sound like Shane Carwin up there on your high horse. Chill homey.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people hate the English, I don’t. They’re just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. We can’t even find a decent culture to be colonized by. We are ruled by effete arseholes. It’s a shite state of affairs to be in, Tommy! And all the fresh air in the world won’t make any fucking difference!

"an excellent example of why most MMA "journalism" is a joke. Pseudonyms like "toxic" and shitty writing like that dopey article"--- Joe Rogan.

by toxic on Mar 10, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The only movie I can think of that’s better than the book.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

british wimps

yeah the british colonized ass, but we kicked their bloody asses, and sent them home packing. ever since then we have been kicking their royal, whiny, wimpy asses, in pretty much evry sport, except soccer, which we dont give a shit about. dan hardy, and the rest of the girly man britsh fans, are in for a hell of a beating

by dat on Mar 11, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I love little videos like this that provide a small window...

into a different culture. Not that different, but still.

Used to love a Japanese show called “Happy Family Plan” because of the day to day life in Japan that you got to catch a glimpse of.

by Razreshat on Mar 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Yea I think we are aware of other races and cultures but until we see them in their own environment its like shell shock. Always nice to see something different.

by p123 on Mar 10, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

that was boring to watch

i wanted to stop it but i kept thinking something interesting was going to happen, man i hope that isnt on the show cuz i will fast forward all of that crap.

by #1 piggy on Mar 10, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe Im a nerd Ive always enjoyed all of the Countdown shows with fighters I’m interested in. I want to know everything about them especially how their mind works. Hardy while not being the big matchup most people are looking for get an indepth psyche about an interesting character from Britain. I much prefer his bio over Bisbings.

by p123 on Mar 10, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

Just went on Ticketmaster

I could still buy $600 tickets….So not sold out?

by Myke25 on Mar 10, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

When all the cheaper seats are gone, it is considered sold out. Standard practice.

Some people think I am a dumb, ugly human being, but really I am a beautiful ape, with exceptional verbal skills.

by szucconi on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

From a rep of the UFC on the UG:

Only way to get 2 tickets together is through the auction.

by Nick Thomas on Mar 10, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

how does the whole twitter thing work?

by MrMet527 on Mar 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

i am really excited… cant wait to watch.

"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Mar 10, 2010 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Dan Hardy does the worst fake Frenchie accent ever.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Mar 10, 2010 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

lol… anyone else watching spike? they just ran a commercial for UFC Primetime with GSP and BJ Penn…

advertising fail

by ruckus on Mar 10, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

ha, just saw that. someone’s gettin’ a talking to right now.

by woooburn on Mar 10, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

DOES THIS REPLAY IMMEDIATELY AFTER?

Anyone know? I’ll Google, but thought someone might have knowlede now.

by ADAMantium on Mar 10, 2010 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, it re-airs at 10:30 pm

by Nick Thomas on Mar 10, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

and I assume that’s EST so CRAP!

don’t get off until 10:00CST/11:00EST

dag!

by ADAMantium on Mar 10, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Look forward to watching this tonight

Anyone bother with the UFC 108 replay?

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

CA-NA-DUH! CA-NA-DUH! CA-NA-DUH!

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

If you didn't know that GSP was sponsored by Under Armour

it’s easy to know now…

If Derek Jeter clubbed a baby seal on earth day while wearing a mink coat and crocodile skin boots while burning tires on an iceberg, the reaction would be "Its OK Derek, you’re a Yankee." -First mammal to wear pants

by Tonley on Mar 10, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

GSP does look bigger

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

lol. Hardy is a character.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

gonna need the mute button ready

to make it through a season of TUF with tito yammering about who knows what.

by woooburn on Mar 10, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

fro real.

Tito’s smack talk is so sophomore year.

by JimJoe on Mar 10, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how many takes they had to do for that commercial with Tito messing up his lines and Chuck mumbling through everything.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yea he had a bit of an arrogance to it almost...

not much, but enough for me to like him more. lol

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hardy just referred to GSP nuthuggers, does he have a Sherdog account?

by Worldisart on Mar 10, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

You know he does

Bisping has posted on Sherdog before. All those Brits keep up on internet shit.

by JimJoe on Mar 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

nuthugger is an internet mma nomenclature staple

If Derek Jeter clubbed a baby seal on earth day while wearing a mink coat and crocodile skin boots while burning tires on an iceberg, the reaction would be "Its OK Derek, you’re a Yankee." -First mammal to wear pants

by Tonley on Mar 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

There are even nuthuggers of the word nuthugger.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP is five strike attempts away from defend...

whoops wrong thread

Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't get in a car, I don't f@#king ride in a car, I don't pick up the phone, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as s*@it don't f#$kng roll! Shomer shabbos!

by timthemit53 on Mar 10, 2010 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Can someone tell me...

why is ghost hunters on my spike right now

Faber, Florian, Nick Diaz, 'Mayhem', Mousasi, Fedor

by mma_dude on Mar 10, 2010 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

“When hit cleanly, GSP will fall over”

by Nick Thomas on Mar 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

so will Hardy.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Hardy said he’s going to beat the fake tan off GSP

by Nick Thomas on Mar 10, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

He’s probably one of the funniest trash talkers.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

First Amp Urijah commercial I enjoy.

on topic, Hardy is funny.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Mar 10, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Hi everybody

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Yo.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

*waves*

Jack Bauer could get off the Lost island in 24 hours.

by timetosaygoodbye on Mar 10, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

“It’s hard to become champion. It’s even harder to stay champion.” So true. Just look at the last few LHW champs.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Nice summersault by Renzo.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

z

Imagine the talk if there was ever a fight between Hardy and Renzo…

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know how anybody could ever dislike Renzo. He seems like such a cool guy.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, right? Would love to go for some beers with that guy.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He REALLY wants that KO.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a scary, scary image right there

Looks like something out of a B-level horror movie…or a Thiago Silva interview…

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

"I am in a world of shit"

Nice phycho eyes from George, and to me this whole thing just seems to be inforcing just how bad this ass whoopin is gonna be.

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Mar 10, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Kewl seeing Gsp train with renzo gracie

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Jimmy Johnson shilling for eXtenze

 * cringe *

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on Mar 10, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

Lawl Hardy says Gsp is underestimating him. From the look of it I dont think so.

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Of course he's saying that

He’s probably even convinced himself of it. What other reason would he have to hope for/expect a victory?

Not too many people say “I’m facing a fighter who’s better than me at every aspect of the game, but I’m gonna land that one shot that knocks him out.”

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Weird, since Renzo and Matt are close

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Just business. If Renzo and Matt were to corner against each other, I’m sure there would be no ill feelings.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the Georges I want to see...

The humble thing is okay sometimes, but I would rather see him wit a slight bit of an edge to him. Let his confidence come with a little cockiness.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Same here. The determination in his voice is what I want to hear. I want to hear GSP say he’s going to break someone.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This looked like as close to an angry GSP as you can get. I didn’t think Hardy wanted to start with the trash talk, as that as backfired for every GSP opponent in the past. It seems like it was a bad idea to go that route again.

by Hardcharger on Mar 11, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

WTF?

it’s only 30 minutes? :-(

Jack Bauer could get off the Lost island in 24 hours.

by timetosaygoodbye on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

ahhh...

it looks like they’re doing back-to-back 30 min episodes… ok…

Jack Bauer could get off the Lost island in 24 hours.

by timetosaygoodbye on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, it's a replay

there’s another episode next week and another after that

Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."

by Stillberry on Mar 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s only ever been half an hour. Or am I just on crack?

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It can. Oh, it can.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 11, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

so apparently hardy’s secret weapon is training with Serra

Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."

by Stillberry on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

so what’s the story behind the training camp switch? who was hardy planning to train with?

by woooburn on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Oh come on

What’s Matt Serra gonna teach him how to get knee’d into oblivion. “Listen Dan it’s real simple, all you gotta do is hit him really hard in the back of the head, and the rest is smooth sailing!”

"That's right I'm into hardcore crack, that's why my teeth are so bad"

by Fake Emcee on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

To be fair, he’s fought GSP twice. However, I think this is more of a psychological dig that Hardy is pulling. Not going to work though.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s obviously just an angle aimed at casuals.

by An0nymous on Mar 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If GSP hadn't moved,

The punch that hit him on the side/back of the head would’ve hit him in the jaw… Can we stop trying to brush that win off? We know GSP won the second time, but he did lose the first… stop being such a lame about it.

Plus, Serra at the very least can relate to Hardy’s situation, and may have some words of wisdom that can help… He has been in there with George twice, and got his black belt under Renzo, and he’s close to the venue… not a bad move at all really.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes its hard to think that some of these guys aren’t invincible. Sometimes I forget BJ GSP 2 ever even happened. In my head BJ never left lightweight after he took the belt.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re only as good as your last fight, they say.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta rec this shit haha

“unless you’re willing to get your wig split”

Spoken like a true internet gangster.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually reminded me of Pepper Jack from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. If he liked Fraggle Rock, that is…

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay first off don’t talk to me like you know me homeboy unless you’re willing to get your wig split.

lol. that’s the best opening line to a comment I’ve ever seen. Rec’d for keepin’ it real.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

loot

you idiot, yeah gsp lost to serra the first time, but its only the most recent fight against serra that counts, because we know what happened there. GSP has only lost two fights in his life, and both were brutally avenged, how many fighters can say that . You and other idiots keep bringing up, the serra fight as what could happen again, buts its irrelevant, because gsp evolved from that. when serra even tried to punch him last time, GSP avoided the punches like they were coming in slow motion and took him down and raped him, same thing will happen to hardy. BJ penn and alves have 10x the standup, or power of hardy, but they didnt come close to even touching gsps face

by dat on Mar 11, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not nice to call people mean names :(

by Tedd Welch on Mar 11, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Serra! The plot thickens!

Man I love these shows. No Dana, no Rogan, only the fighters. How it should be. Im watching the replay!

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Mar 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

Hardy was planing to train with a guy who beat gsp up in middle school. That guy has some good incite i hear.

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on Mar 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

2010 GSP can totally kick the shit out of 2007 GSP.

He’s had like three upgrades since then. Dang. Can’t believe that was three years ago now.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad he forgot to get a chin upgrade haha

Yeah, I’m in the minority, and I know in all likelihood Hardy will get smashed. But I’m rooting hard for the guy, knowing full well if he does pull it off he’ll get decimated in the rematch. Plus, I’d like to see things shook up a bit at WW.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

its a shame....

cuz he was dominatin that fight. lol.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I really want to get behind Hardy

But it’s just too difficult. Next to Anderson Silva, I believe GSP is the most dangerous of the UFC Champions.

by ruckus on Mar 10, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Just a thought

Does anybody at all consider Hardy the dominant male? Is he even the dominant male WW to come out of his own camp?

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

What do you want him to say? That he’s a beta nerd who gets beat up in camp and will get tooled in the fight?

Jesus…

by An0nymous on Mar 10, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. That's what I want him to say.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I’m in the minority but I think he’d actually beat Daley.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he could

Maybe Dana could get them to fight if they both lose? It’d be a helluva co-main, and the crap would be flying pre-fight..

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

If Hardy beats GSP, and Daley beats Bob Rosscheck, you can be sure that will be the first title defense if they are both uninjured.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are two pretty huge upsets, and I can’t imagine they’d want to fight if it wasn’t for the title, but I’d sure like to see it if they did.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I heard one of them say they would fight if it was for a belt. I think Hardy said it. Said something along the lines of “I punch him in the face everyday anyway in training.”

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob Rosscheck.

Sweet.

Bless that photoshop thread…

by TLow on Mar 10, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

God bless it

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 11, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hardy is a purple belt I think, 10th Planet. I think his ground is probably better, although Daley obviously has the punching power advantage.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He has the power, but I think Hardy is a good enough boxer not to get caught.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I thought before the Kampmann fight

I thought “Hitman” would test out the stand-up, feel the power, and take Semtex to the ground…

The way Daley whips that hook is just sick. Looks like an Alves legkick with all that torque…

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

not at all

Pretty much all of the fighters talk themselves up; that’s fine. But there’s a line between confidence and BS. Then again, Hardy may actually be delusional and think he’s the dominant male WW…

by Ryjo on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing is how over hyped they are making his striking out to be. Since coming to the bigs hardy has only 1 KO’s and 3 decisions. No doubt he has good striking but he is no near the striker alves is imo. And just a side note this is hardys first fight in the states since 2006. And he lost every time he has fought in the USA.

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Well, they have to pick something and run with it. I think they did an overall good job on the show of hyping things. If I hadn’t seen Hardy fight before, I’d probably believe the hype. Gonna have a UFC party at my place for this one, and most of the people coming have never seen Hardy fight, and if they did, probably don’t remember him.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a different kind of striker, has a different style. Can’t really compare Hardy and Alves like that.

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And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you can when it comes to overall striking ability: KO power, accuracy, technical ability, etc. Hardy beats his opponents. Alves destroys his. And when you throw in leg kicks, forget about it.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Mar 10, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Alves muay thai and Hardy’s boxing are two different things. Hardy is a counterstriker who has done extensive training with Freddie Roach on his hands. They are two different kinds of strikers. Doesn’t make a difference when you’re on your back, but you know.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hardy hits hard

Swick was on the verge of getting knocked out before Hardy grappled instead of beheaded.

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Two epic trash talkers training together. Sweet, they probably couldn’t beat GSP in a handicap match but at least it’ll be entertaining.

by Worldisart on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Matt already fought and beat him one on one...

:-)

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 10, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

What happened in the rematch? Oh yeah……

by Worldisart on Mar 10, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Also let’s analyze their career trajectories at this point. Oh yeah….

by Worldisart on Mar 10, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Your avatar kind of removes all your credibility when talking about the gorgeous one. Haha

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP is the only fighter whom it is impossible for me to have an objective opinion about. I’ll admit so please take all comments about Georges from me with a grain of salt.

by Worldisart on Mar 10, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

there is absolutely nothing wrong with being biased

As long as you are honest about your biases. And given your avatar, I’d say you’re being pretty up-front about it.

Oh wait.

That wasn’t a racist comment, was it? I’d hate for anyone to think I was racist against Canadians, even though you all do look alike, eh.

by Lauren J Darkbloom on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

what does that have to do with what I said?

Matt Serra and Georges St. Pierre have fought twice… each one has gotten the KO/TKO victory on one occasion.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Mar 13, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP 3 Matt (Serra and Hughes) 2

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Not talking about styles… just overall strikers. One guy puts dudes to sleep having 8 out of his last 10 fights end in KO while the other not as impressive.

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

The reply button doesn't bite :P

I get your point, but its still apples to oranges really.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

what ever helps you sleep at nite:)

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Hardy could get destroyed in an all stand up fight and I’ll still sleep like a baby. I’m pulling for Hardy, sure, but I’m a fight fan and I don’t cry when my picks lose…probably because I don’t bet more than five or ten dollars with friends. I lose my moneys on the poker tables haha.

I'm the best ever. You're the most average in a minute.
And NEW UFC Welterweight Champion of the World.....Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy!

by slapjaw ackrite on Mar 10, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ehh, Hardy has a different style that could make him more interesting a more interesting matchup then Alves. One of the main things being he doesn’t rely on leg kicks as much, but Alves’ striking is elite. Hardy is good, but Alves is great.

The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"

by Neil Manich on Mar 10, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Alves doesn’t have the reach, though. He wasn’t able to do anything from the outside and was afraid to close the distance. Maybe Hardy will have some success in using his jab…

by dancingChicken on Mar 11, 2010 4:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Alves could negotiate the distance better with his kicks however, which can negate some of the punching reach disadvantage. Hardy doesn’t have that weapon. And Alves was not afraid to close the distance. I’ve rewatched that fight several times recently, and Thiago pressed the action. GSP is just technically very sound, and has great movement and quickness. He’s not going to just stand in front of you.

by Hardcharger on Mar 11, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Kicks leave openings for a takedowns, that’s why he didn’t kick so much. Pressing the action is one thing, getting inside and work from there is another.
And yes, Hardy doesn’t have “that weapon”, that’s why I mentioned his jab.

by dancingChicken on Mar 11, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand why you mentioned Hardy’s jab, but it wasn’t correct to say that Alves couldn’t do anything from the outside or was afraid to close the distance. His kicks allowed him to attack GSP despite a reach disadvantage in his punches, and Alves did try to pressure GSP throughout the fight, giving a very good account of himself. GSP was just too skilled and prepared. Hardy isn’t brining in any physical attributes Alves didn’t have, nor is he bringing in a “fearless” attitude that Alves didn’t have.

In fact, I find it absurd that Hardy would claim that GSP’s opponents showed him too much respect and were beaten before the fight began. That certainly wasn’t the case for Penn, Alves, Fitch, Serra, Hughes, etc. Those guys all have very good mental games.

by Hardcharger on Mar 11, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He threw few kicks. GSP was kicking more often (more leg kicks, more body kicks).
Alves got outstruck, GSP landed 22 strikes to the head, Alves only 6. That’s what happens when you can’t do much from the distance and can’t do much from the inside.
I’m not saying that Alves was terrified to close the distance, but he knew that it’ll probably end up with him being taken down if he wont cautious.
And of course GSP was using his skills to keep him at bay.

Hardy has better reach than Alves and if his fight with GSP will go to the distance, I’m pretty sure that he’ll land more than 6 strike to the head.

by dancingChicken on Mar 11, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So Alves really wasn’t afraid to close the distance like originally stated, and didn’t land punches to the head because GSP was too quick, evasive, and well-schooled. Your conclusion from this is merely a prediction, and really based on nothing concrete (no offense to you). Maybe Hardy would land more than 6 punches to the face. Maybe not. Either way, I don’t see a failure of gameplanning from Alves or physical superiority of Hardy that will make this matchup tougher for GSP than the UFC 100 fight. JMO.

by Hardcharger on Mar 11, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It was probably bad choice of words, I’m not English native speaker, and apparently my intention didn’t translate well. Language barrier, what can I say…
However, there were more variables than just GSP technical skills that decided of the outcome of the stand up part of the fight. 6 inch reach advantage makes difference, whether we like it or not.
And of course my prediction is based on nothing concrete, it doesn’t have to. It’s not scientific investigation.
As I stated in my original comment: MAYBE Hardy will have some success in using his jab. I’m not saying he will be tougher match up than Alves. I think GSP will crush Hardy like a bug, but I also acknowledge that the Englishman has some tools.

PS. We probably agree more or less, but fail to communicate. Charm of the Internet….

by dancingChicken on Mar 11, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Gsp found Hardys weakness

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

A dentist?

Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade

by Damon O. on Mar 10, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats not nice not every brit has bad teeth…right ?

by logan00 on Mar 10, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

The irony of showing a Canadian….

by Worldisart on Mar 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

what happened to the hardy video?

by funkywanderer on Mar 11, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

sorry…the second video, i mean.

by funkywanderer on Mar 11, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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