Are Mental Gifts the Key to Paulo Thiago's Success?
I felt rectified vindicated. After putting my faith in Frank Trigg and Ronnys Torres to come out victorious, Paulo Thiago's counter combination in the second round of action against Mike Swick provided relief. The subsequent pouncing and applied D'arce choke that immediately incapacitated Swick caused a lot of cheering and high fives. The upset pick had provided an escape from the pain of my terrible foresight and my pocketbook.
The 29-year-old Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt hailing out of Brasilia, Brazil is now making a name for himself as not only the "AKA Killer", but he's impressively made his way up the ranks as a legitimate top ten welterweight fighter. What exactly can be attributed to his success?
Interestingly enough, his entry into the UFC was considered by many to be a "tryout" with the promotion. His manager, Jungle Fight founder Wallid Ismail, insisted that Paulo had been given a contract with the promotion when he signed on to battle Josh Koscheck at UFC 95, but as we all know -- the UFC's ability to cut contracts is uncontested.
Fortunately for Paulo, his left hook/right uppercut combination after being battered for most of the first round connected beautifully to down Koscheck and give Thiago one of the biggest upset victories of 2009. Most fans considered the win "lucky", including myself, but as we began to see over the course of his next three fights -- Paulo Thiago is anything but lucky.
Thiago showed some brilliant Brazilian jiu-jitsu techniques against Jon Fitch despite the loss, much improved striking in his battle with Jacob Volkmann, and new found power against Mike Swick. Only a handful of fighters in the world can say they are improving by leaps and bounds over the course of a year, and Paulo Thiago is one of them.
Thiago has also been training with Nova Uniao and Team Black House in more recent months as he prepared for Mike Swick, and the training he's received with fighters such as the Nogueira brothers and Anderson Silva has been invaluable to his progression as a fighter.
While all of these names and camps sound like a foolproof plan to creating a great fighter, Thiago's abilities to assimilate knowledge at a staggering rate is easily one of the main reasons we've seen huge strides of improvement. He's truly become a scholar of the sport who has shown off his newly adjusted skills in all their glory in the cage.
The mental fortitude that he's obtained from his day-to-day occupation as a special forces member of BOPE, one of the most efficient military forces in the world, must also attribute to his successes as a fighter. There isn't a fighter in the sport today that can say they've seen or done the things that Thiago may do on a daily basis.
Will success continue for Paulo Thiago? He's placed himself in the top ten in the world at welterweight, and his next challenges in the Octagon will more than likely be against top talent in the division. What are his chances against fighters like Thiago Alves, Dan Hardy, Paul Daley, or Martin Kampmann?
At the current rate of improvement, the sky could be the limit for Paulo Thiago, and we could be seeing the next great welterweight fighter. I don't forsee Thiago becoming the next Anderson Silva, Vitor Belfort, or Lyoto Machida, but he certainly has the right training and thirst for knowledge to attain a level of skill that is astounding.
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Nice, was looking forward to a piece on Thiago. I love the fresh blood, and he has a great story ala Cro Cop.
Of the fighters you mentioned, Alves is the only one I’d consider a favorite against him.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
I’d have all of those guys except Kampmann as the favorite until I see something from him that would lead me to believe he could take the fight to the floor. Those strikes that Swick landed that rocked Thiago would have ended his night if they came from Hardy or Semtex.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
Considering the way the UFC passed Gray Maynard over for a man he defeated for the next chance to get beat down by BJ, is there any doubt that another win would put Paulo Thiago in line to be beaten down by GSP, his loss to Fitch notwithstanding?
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Paulo “Dont Mess With Me or I Can Kill You in 72 different ways, including Angry Stare!” Thiago
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by B-A-N-A-N-A-S on Feb 8, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I have some doubt. I can’t see how they can promote that as an interesting fight. At least with Hardy they have the mouth and the chance to K.O. GSP standing ala Matt Serra. Hardy hasn’t shown that hes susceptible to takedown/GnP (he definitely is but the fans haven’t had it shoved in their face).
Paulo can’t build the fight with his words like Hardy and has shown that he can be taken down, controlled on the ground and dominated in the Fitch fight, which is tet exact strategy that GSP employs.
Unfortunately for Thiago I think your analysis is correct, however it will be Thiago that is passed over for a man that he has beaten as Koscheck gets a rematch with GSP.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
In my opinion, Thiago’s 3-1 UFC record is more impressive than Hardy’s 4-0, when you look at their respective opponents.
I don’t disagree with that but it doesn’t change the fact that Paulo can’t hype the fight and the fans have already seen him taken down and dominated over and over.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
Well considering the improvements that Thiago has made in all other parts of his game, I don’t see any reason to think that he couldn’t improve his takedown defense as well. Also, I don’t know many people that are taking Hardy seriously no matter how much he tries to hype this fight with trash talk.
I am glad that I jumped on Paulo Thiago's bandwagon early on
From my knowledge, that was the first time that Mike Swick was submitted. I can only imagine how Swick’s brain was after getting knocked down and then immediately choked out right after. I can see Paulo getting Thiago Alves especially if Alves beats Fitch. I would like to see Paulo Thiago (it would be helpful if he had a nickname) get the winner of Kampmann vs Saunders, Diego Sanchez if he beats Hathaway, or Nate Diaz if he beats Rory Markham. There are many good fights for him out there in Welterweight.
Ala Sakuraba’s nickname.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Thiago= BOPE Badboy
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by keyboardwarrior on Feb 8, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's referencing
Paulo being sponsored by Bad Boy.
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by pdl on Feb 8, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
it was a little of both.. Bad Boy was also the only word I could come up with that started with a B along with BOPE..
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by keyboardwarrior on Feb 8, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
can't really call him the AKA killer since he lost to Fitch
but 2 out of 3 ain’t bad
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Swick is done
as a contender at WW imo.
How the mighty have fallen. Going from bashing Dan Hardy’s record and being one win away from a title shot, to going 0-2 in his last two fights and playing himself out of contention. I think it is actually a good thing for him, he needs to go back to MW, dude looks like he has to chop off an appendage to make weight, and that can’t be healthy.
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I just rewatched Swick's fight against Okami
and I’d have to say I agree. I think Swick should move back up to WW where he won’t be so emaciated, and even though he’ll be one of the smaller MW’s, he should have a speed advantage.
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should move back up to MW
dammit
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I agree that his best attribute is his mental game. When Swick connected with that hard right Thiago backup a bit but did not crumble and came back with a combination of his own. That’s the difference between a fighter and a great fighter, not backing up in a fight. a regular fighter could have tried to cover up and be stunned by a good punch, great fighters go right through them. His past fights are the same, even with Fitch he was all game. I don’t think he has the skills to beat GSP today, but he definitely seems to be improving. I wish he’d let go of his day job and become a fighter full time, he definitely seems like a fast learner and training full time will make him that much better and perhaps could become champ one day if he did.
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I was reallyyyyy impressed with Thiago's striking.
and especially his defense.. He parried most of swick’s shots instead of just covering up and blocking them like most MMA guys do.
I would love to see that.
Or Daley. I think Thiago wins either, then hopefully gets somebody huge next.
by CaptainSpaulding on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Kampmann/ Paulo would be an awesome fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think he would eat Kampmann up
I’ve been pretty disappointed with Kampann after being a fan of his earlier in his career. He was a kick boxer, but seems to be overwhelmed by strikers. His ground game has improved dramatically over the years, but his wrestling is weak and starts from bad positions. I thought the move to 170 would be beneficial, but somehow he still seems undersized. Not sure how much of a future he has in the UFC without a big win.
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Kampman vs. Swick would be a fun fight.
Serra vs. Condit
Thiago vs. Koscheck/Daley winner for #1 contender
Fitch/Alves winner vs. Serra/Condit winner
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I like it but
Wouldn’t the Serra/Condit winner (and not sure if I like that match up as much as the others) be a step down for Fitch/Alves?
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When the #2 and #3 fight and can't get a title shot yet
they need a step down. A Fitch vs. Diego rematch could be in the works.
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by pdl on Feb 8, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Serra and Condit would get absolutely murdered by either of those guys and pretty far below in the rankings. I could maybe see the loser of Fitch-Alves getting the winner of Serra-Condit.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
Honestly, he’s probably one of the only fighters who stands less of a chance dying in-ring than at his day job.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 8, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions
There isn’t a fighter in the sport today that can say they’ve seen or done the things that Thiago may do on a daily basis.
Tim Kennedy may beg to differ.
Very true...
And Kennedy may be on the same path. He’s improved immensely since moving to being a full-time fighter.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
What Thiago does is completely different from what Kennedy or Stann did.
Not saying he’s better or anything, but it sure is different. (Kennedy is a bit closer to Thiago than Stann though)
by Anton Tabuena on Feb 8, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
still pretty amazed he turned out to be this good
when the fight with koscheck was announced no one gave him a chance, or really even knew who he was (sorta like dos santos). been cool to watch his progression. also loved his sincere reaction to getting the win over swick, and the post fight interview. the thing about the video game was great.
Honestly, his striking has improved immensely. People aren’t in the wrong suggesting it was horrible in his fight with Koscheck. The combination that downed Koscheck was very good form and anticipating Koscheck leading in like that was brilliant. But most of the round saw Thiago throwing some horribly bad punches.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
The biggest improvement I saw was in the Volkmann fight. Throwing straight jabs with force and landing… very improved in my opinion, and he was timing Volkmann well. Giving him more months with that kind of improvement only made it harder for Swick to deal with him.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
The one complaint I have
is your characterization of his power being “newfound.” He’s always been heavy handed, I’ve been saying it on here for awhile and everyone doubted. He KO’d Kos, damn near put Volkmann’s lights out at the end of the first, and now blasted Swick. Everyone in Brazil calls him Hands of Stone. It’s not a new phenomenon.
Other than that, very well written article. Paulo is one of the most disarmingly calm and quiet guys you’ll meet before a fight. His mental game is top notch.
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by pdl on Feb 8, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
He hasn’t always been heavy handed. He happened to bomb Koscheck with the uppercut, but I think nearly anyone eating that kind of blow would be downed. His overall career hasn’t shown that power until his UFC career. It’s the improvement in his power and strength along with his other skills that make it “new found” IMO.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
He has a reputation for power and knows it.
Hence why he’s so confident in his KO ability and did not pounce on either Kos or Volkmann after he floored them. In fact, that confidence was one of his greatest liabilities. Glad to see him leap in for the D’arce this time and not put full faith in his hands and a ref.
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by pdl on Feb 8, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
"after being battered for most of the first round"
I don’t agree with this.
The fight was 4 minutes long and I think Kos only landed one flush right hand, which Thiago survived. Kos looked busier with his stupid looping power right, but Thiago was never in any danger and landed a few nice kicks and punches of his own. Hardly being battered.
i lean towards agreeing with this view of that round...
Kos was winging punches and did land a big right, but Paulo has a good Chin it seems.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
It also helps...
to watch it without Rogan & Goldberg’s Kos lovefest commentary.
by William Wilson on Feb 8, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Surprised, Impressed, Sold
Paulo winning was one of my easiest picks for 109. Despite being an underdog, I was completely confident that Swick posed no threat, and all because of his first two fights. His win over Kos surpised me, his fight with Fitch impressed me, and his Volkmann fight sold me. I really didn’t see Swick bringing anything different or more dangerous to the table than any of his previous fights.
And his mental state needs no comment. He may be one of the most mentally unshakable mma fighters in the world due to his other career in BOPE.
heh, I was commenting something similar to my friend as we watched the fight. He deflected and blocked strikes very effectively against Swick, and mostly with slapping, sweeping hand movements, though his strikes looked fairly crisp. Thats one of the things that happened to really stick out for me during the fight
Good article Mr. Roling but you need to get your work proofread.
Dear Mr. Roling,
I agree with most of your points made on Paulo Thiago in this article, though some might be a tad bit overstated (development-wise, new found striking power etc.).
I have been reading your work for some time now and have been enjoying the overall content you provide. I however tend to cringe several times at the level English in your prose every time that you post. Today was no different.
In your title “Are Mental Gifts The Key to Paulo Thiago’s Success”, the use of the phrase “mental gifts” is weak at best ; readers will most likely think that you are relating to mental lapses in his opponents, as this would be proper use. I think you might have meant intellectual gifts, gift of mental fortitude, etc. People don’t usually refer to gifts of the mind in such general terms.
Also, your first sentence is “I was rectified”. When something is rectified, it is corrected. Mistakes can be rectified. Erroneous opinions can be rectified. Political stances can be rectified. But people are not rectified. When reading further, it becomes clear that you not only used the word in the improper context, but also used it altogether improperly. I believe that you might have meant to say “I felt vindicated” or “I felt I redeemed myself” or something of that ilk.
There are other areas in your text that could be polished of course, but having a weak title and a sentence with erroneous meaning to initialize your text cripples your message right out of the proverbial gate. There are thousands of people reading your blog. Don’t you think it would serve your work better if you were to present it without outstanding flaws?
All that being, I am truly appreciative that you are writing about mixed martial arts and offer some valuable insight on a sport that I love. Please continue your good work with Bloody Elbow and Fight Metric.
Daniel.
In your title "Are Mental Gifts The Key to Paulo Thiago’s Success", the use of the phrase "mental gifts" is weak at best ; readers will most likely think that you are relating to mental lapses in his opponents, as this would be proper use. I think you might have meant intellectual gifts, gift of mental fortitude, etc. People don’t usually refer to gifts of the mind in such general terms.
Thanks for the criticism. I’m not the greatest writer in the world, nor will I ever claim to be. I will say this… the mental gifts line isn’t the most solid, but it certainly doesn’t give me the impression that it relates to mental lapses in his opponents at all. Maybe that’s just me.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
You need to learn punctuation and sentence fragments before you go into a long detailed post criticizing someone else’s English skills.
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by keyboardwarrior on Feb 8, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I could certainly improve my writing skills, although I tend to see that my writing skill flattens early in the week when I haven’t been writing over the weekends. I have mental lapses like everyone else, and I’m by no means a “gifted” writer. I’ll work on it though.
Also, your first sentence is "I was rectified". When something is rectified, it is corrected. Mistakes can be rectified. Erroneous opinions can be rectified. Political stances can be rectified. But people are not rectified. When reading further, it becomes clear that you not only used the word in the improper context, but also used it altogether improperly. I believe that you might have meant to say "I felt vindicated" or "I felt I redeemed myself" or something of that ilk.
Nate, you failed me, lol. Vindicated is actually a much better word. Thanks for the suggestion.
There are other areas in your text that could be polished of course, but having a weak title and a sentence with erroneous meaning to initialize your text cripples your message right out of the proverbial gate. There are thousands of people reading your blog. Don’t you think it would serve your work better if you were to present it without outstanding flaws?
I’m sorry I have failed you, dhurtubise.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Why am I reminded of a Superintendent Chalmers quote?
“Good lord! The rod up that man’s butt must have a rod up its butt.”
In your second paragraph, you incorrectly used the word “however”. The word “however” must be flanked on both sides by a comma or semicolon. A better sentence would be, “I tend to cringe several times, however, at the level English [sic] in your prose…”
Additionally, your complaint about the title makes no sense. You must have a pretty low opinion of the average Bloody Elbow reader if you think people here would be that confused by a straight forward term like “mental gifts”.
by ricker2005 on Feb 8, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think it’s fair to hold front-page blog quotes to a higher standard than comments which are several pages down.
Nice article. Thiago is the man.
by HarmlessNinja on Feb 9, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
Paulo must rematch Koscheck before he can continue his way up the WW ladder. A definitive win against JK would put him one or two fights away from the title.
He already has...
a definitive win against Koscheck. No reason for him to face him again so soon. That would mean 4 out of 5 fights in the UFC would be against AKA guys.
by William Wilson on Feb 8, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
There isn't a fighter in the sport today that can say they've seen or done the things that Thiago may do on a daily basis.
I agree with everything you said about Paulo Thiago except this statement. Tim Kennendy who is an Army Ranger has most likely seen some crazy thing that us normal civilians cant even imagine. Also Brian Stann a former US Marine who was greatly recognized for his duty in the Middle East has also seem some grusesome, unhumane things most likely during his active duty.
Yeah, we went over this above...
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by Leland Roling on Feb 8, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
3 fights I'd love to see made:
Thiago – Kampmann
Thiago – Serra
Thiago – Koscheck 2
Any fights of that even without hype would sure bring excitement.
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"AKA Killer" is definitely what I consider Thiago's nickname.
His win totally made my week. Looking forward to see what else he’s got against other top fighters. He’s already had a murderer’s row of fights. Talk about rising to the occasion!
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