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Fedor Emelianenko and M-1 Global Are Putting Strikeforce Over a Barrel

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It's no secret that the world's USAT/SBN Consensus MMA Rankings' #1 heavyweight and his management team M-1 Global can be a handful to deal with. Yesterday we heard Fedor might not would not be on Strikeforce's April CBS card. Then we heard that he might be fighting Alistair Overeem in Japan's DREAM won't fight Overeem unless Overeem passes a pre-fight drug test.

Now we're hearing that Fedor might not fight on either Strikeforce's April CBS card or its May Showtime card.

Fedor and his management team clearly believe they didn't get paid enough for Fedor's first CBS event for Strikeforce. They also have utter confidence that Fedor's value in the market place is rising. They're missing a huge bird in the hand payday -- and more importantly missing out on the incredible US market exposure that CBS can provide.

Then there's the question of how long will Fedor's fighting prime last? He coasted through his last couple of years in PRIDE fighting freak show fights like Zuluzinho and Hong Man Choi, a past his prime Mark Coleman, and an undersized Matt Lindland. In 2008 and 2009 he was unusually productive, fighting and dispatching two former UFC champs in Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski and a fast-rising Brett Rogers. Now it appears as if he's going to be slowing his pace of fighting again.

Strikeforce is now forced to headline a CBS card with proven ratings disaster Jake Shields and a hot Dan Henderson who's coming off the most dramatic KO win of 2009. Henderson would be a solid headliner against a more compelling opponent, but even coming off his UFC 100 glory and coaching TUF, he's not enough to carry a network card. And if "Decision Dan" shows up instead of "Hollywood" Henderson, look out, we may see a headliner that loses viewers as it drags on for five rounds of lay and pray.

But not having Fedor to headline the card really hurts Strikeforce. That promotion is desperate for headliners with Gina Carano, Cung Le and Frank Shamrock all having been damaged by recent losses. 

Fedor and M-1 may be killing their "promotional partner" by leaving them with no ratings draw for the April CBS card. They must be thinking that there will be another CBS card or equally well-paying opportunity.

Or maybe they're negotiating with someone else. And there's really only one other entity that can put together a bigger fight than DREAM in March, CBS in April or Showtime in May. And that's an entity that could offer a title fight on PPV in June or July against the biggest draw in the sport.

 

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Is that Dana White is hear laughing?

by dpk875 on Feb 26, 2010 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

one man can not kill the ufc

the ufc is to smart to let that happen to them , That is why he didnt sign with them in the first place. I think the ufc will not let anything happen that is no in there favor. They play there cards right, othere wise they would be R.I.P. with the rest of them.

by #1 piggy on Feb 27, 2010 4:43 AM EST up reply actions  

the ufc will never sign fedor while his demand of co-promotion with m-1 still stands. there is no way in hell the ufc will give half of their profits to 1/22nd of the fighters involved, his posse and management team. every other big name in the org would refuse to fight on the same card with him because half their back end money would automatically go to fedor and m-1. how long will your other top stars stick around when they realize you’re giving their money away?

by K Krush on Feb 27, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Fedor kills. Period.

"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
-Samuel Goldwyn

by fedorade on Feb 27, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Accurate.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 27, 2010 5:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Good statement...however,...

keep in mind that Fedor owns a stake in M1 and therefore owns a stake of the blame for M1’s antics.

by Razreshat on Feb 27, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but business Fedor and fighter Fedor are not the same entity. Business Fedor is, at this point, meaningless without M1; fighter Fedor is absolutely in demand without M1.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 27, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

but they’re still the same person, and fighter fedor refuses to fight unless businessman fedor is appeased.

there is a lot of mental gymnastics that go on in the heads of certain mma fans to completely seperate the douchiness from fedor. sorry, fedor is m-1, anything you can say about vladim or m-1 can be directed at fedor too. greedy, self-centered, destructively oblivious? sorry, but check, check and check.

by K Krush on Feb 27, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s not at all what I was implying, but okay.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 27, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

blogs based on pure speculation kill rational perspective.

Fedor and his management team clearly believe they didn’t get paid enough for Fedor’s first CBS event for Strikeforce.

Clearly, the references to the uncited sources say so.

by bleve_ on Feb 27, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I will throw Fedor under the bus before anyone, but...

The reality is, To blame Fedor is like blaming Kermit THEE Frog…
Kermit does not choose what he says/does, why blame him? he is not in control of his own destiny…
Dont blame communist Russians either…
It is a CROOKED circus trying to milk their BEARDED LADY for all shes worth!
They tell her to get on stage or lay in a cage and she says for how long…
These antics are very similar to American Boxing Promoters/Promotions…
Show me the best boxing matches/boxers today?? I dont wanna watch a 115lb little squirt fight Nobodies…BULL$HIT!!!
Fedors management/M1 are going to do the same thing that Floyd Fairwether s people did…
Pass, Hit ME, I ll Pass, Hit Me…Like they are playing a never ending card game…
M1 is WAY FAR behind…UFC is growing exponentially because the are
Doing $hit right!!!
Boxing sucks and is complete garbage while it will continue to get worse…Fedors management/M1 are using BAd Boxing strategies to manage their 1 fighter…
The UFC has proven time and time again that 1 fighter will not hold the organization back or down…Chuck goes away and they have 4 more superstars….

by Jadrig on Feb 27, 2010 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

the way you post is odd.. but you make sense

by sadface on Feb 27, 2010 5:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i love the notion that fedor is actually some borderline retard (or in this case, mindless piece of cloth) who has absolutely no clue or say as to how his management team (of which he’s an actual paid part) is managing his career. come on now. fedor is a big boy and i’ve never heard any indication that he’s actually of sub-normal intelligence. i don’t think your efforts to completely separate him from the deeds of m-1 are supported by any actual evidence anywhere in the world.

fedor is m-1. if m-1 demands half of all the back end money, fedor demands half of all the back end money. trying to make imaginary distinctions separating fedor and his business tactics is just a sad way of preserving your hero worship.

by K Krush on Feb 27, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Everywhere I’m go, all them guys they says to me to kick for to him!
All them is hate him. I don’t know why, but no is just me, is everybady!

by Orcus on Feb 27, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My point was

That there’s nothing substantial here except the date change, the rest is all surrounding a hypothesis on unsubstantiated, “multiple sources are indicating.”

To say,

Fedor and his management team clearly believe…

Is ridiculous. Nothing is “clearly” obvious based on what we IN FACT know.

by bleve_ on Feb 27, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

[sarcasm] I never, never, never, saw anything like this coming. [/sarcasm]

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Canseco to the rescue!!!!!!!

Sure glad Lesnar got his shit straightened out.

by judonerd on Feb 26, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

I’m very, very skeptical that we’ll ever see Fedor in the UFC, but this behavior is…interesting, if nothing else. Really what I wonder most seeing this is not whether we’ll see him in the UFC, but how close he is to being Done Fighting.

by Tedd Welch on Feb 26, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

Im so used to disappointment on this subject that I refuse to show any emotion until I see the first UFC promo for his fight with Brock. Until then its not worth the stress or speculation for me.

by Jonnycaz2.0 on Feb 26, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

Kimbo wants to take your caterpiller and do bad things to it.

by Mr.Kib on Feb 27, 2010 4:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Word.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 27, 2010 5:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t it Millen that kept repeating that all M-1 wanted was a true 50-50 co-promotion where they would split all the costs to put on an event evenly and then split all the profits evenly? I sure hope someone holds him to that.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

Here is the quote.

This must not have worked out quite like M-1 thought it would.

Going back to co-promotion, so you’re saying co-promotion for M-1 means a 50/50 investment between the two parties?

Yeah, yeah. You sit down with the hard numbers. What’s the fight purses? What’s the venue? What’s the advertising budget? Travel, food, throw it all in a pot, split it down the middle, and at the end of the event if the ink is black and there’s a profit, split the profit, and if the ink is red, then just split the loss.

From here: http://www.mmafighting.com/2009/07/31/m-1-official-ufc-is-wwe-of-mma/

Of course it wasn’t about the money. All M-1 truly wanted was to promote the M-1 brand. I guess some people won’t be happy even when they get exactly what they were asking for.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Feb 27, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Dana said that he was...

even going to pay for his whole possee for airfare and food…
he said that it was a crazy request, but he said that he ll do it…

I am personally pissed off at DAna for bending backwards SO much for the Fedor deal…

by Jadrig on Feb 27, 2010 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

I think Dana tried too hard to sign Fedor. While making money off him was surely on Danas mind, I think he tried so hard because he is a fight fan.

Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo

by ANance on Feb 27, 2010 10:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I can’t wait for R3 of the WILL FEDOR SIGN WITH THE UFC?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

And we haven’t even started round 3. I hope someone is able to finish this thing…

by SanDiegoMMA.net on Feb 26, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s gonna be another NC due to crowd rioting.

by Tedd Welch on Feb 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Decision (Fedor retires)

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Or signs for three fights, drops Brock but gets ruined consecutively by JDS and Valasquez

by Jonnycaz2.0 on Feb 26, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fedor finishes his career in DREAM fighting in freakshows once a year and in the Super Hulk tournaments, loses lineal HW title in 2016 to Canseco.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

All aired Live! on ESPN.

"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
-Samuel Goldwyn

by fedorade on Feb 27, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

F’n A!! Cotton…..F’n A!!!!!

by BradCr on Feb 27, 2010 4:57 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

" i feel shocked"

"If I told you I was good, you would think I am boasting. If I told you I was not good, you would know I am lying" Bruce Lee

by DrGoodspd on Feb 27, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno....

I mean, Fedor isn’t the champ in his current promotion so I’m thinking it’ll only be 3 like his last fight.

by ufc4 on Feb 26, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Fedor won't come to the UFC.

He cuts to easily and is afraid of elbows.

/flame on

by Riney on Feb 26, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think elbows were legal in Affliction.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

But who really maintains top control on him?

"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
-Samuel Goldwyn

by fedorade on Feb 27, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Orthodox Jesus? (or whoever the fuck he worships or whatever)

by Biizz on Feb 27, 2010 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

i guess its better than space jesus..

by sadface on Feb 27, 2010 5:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

The ice cream man?

by ufc4 on Feb 27, 2010 8:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Buyout

If the UFC offers him enough, they would go ahead and just buy out his Strikeforce contract.

by Nyfeh on Feb 27, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Correction

If the UFC offers him enough he will just buy out Strikeforce all together.

by fortune on Feb 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

on one hand, it’s a good sign for strikeforce that they are even having a cbs card without fedor, but this definitely sucks for them

by Phildo on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

I love Fedor but he's beginning to annoy me . . .

He’s now fighting like a businessman who fights rather than a fighter who loves the sport and competition. It’s understandable fighters want to get the best deal they can and get paid what they’re worth, but every time I hear about him there is some goddamn issue. It makes me admire Koscheck for trying to fight as much as he can, just to improve himself, just for good competition.

Whatever happened to getting matched up and then fighting on the prescribed date of a fight for fuck’s sake?

That’s another reason why organizations like the UFC have the right business mind. As a consequence to lining their own pockets the sport remains bigger than the fighters rather than the fighters becoming bigger than the sport. Not that I don’t think they deserve it, but when fighters start to get too much pull they think for themselves more than the sport and as a consequence this kind of bullshit occurs. If you’re one of the wanna-be nonconformists who hates the UFC, it is a necessary evil.

by Jackanapes on Feb 26, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

The nice thing about the Tyrant Dana is that this type of shit rarely happens.

Go UFC.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

“He’s now fighting like a businessman who fights rather than a fighter who loves the sport and competition.”

I dont think he cares for the sport like most fighters…..he is good at it and uses it as a tool to live a halfway decent life. I think its pretty clear from most interviews that this is strictly a way of life for him and thats it.

by Killuminati on Feb 27, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he has said so a few times.

But he’s also said that he started doing it because he loved fighting etc. So he had a passion to begin with.

by Jackanapes on Feb 27, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

yep fighting is only a job for Fedor

by davec84 on Feb 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Steroid Test?

Why do they suddenly care?? He fought in Japan when half the Pride Superstars were on roids.

by Pain on Feb 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

1) He has a lot more to lose
2) Pride guys were on steroids. Megareem is on STEROIDS!!!!!!

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

But..

If Fedor is so invincible why would he care. I dont see Fedor caring about this. I dont mean to down grade him but i dont believe he is to business savvy. This reaks of the Russian Mafia man Mr. Finkle!

by Pain on Feb 27, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Fedor’s undefeated streak is worth millions of dollars, it is a big risk to take. It is not sensible for team Fedor to risk that much against a blatant steroid user like Megareem.

The only place it is worth the risk for Fedor’s record is in the UFC.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 27, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

If Fedor gets smoked in Strikeforce by anyone, he loses 75% of his value to the UFC. If he loses to Werdum, the UFC won’t want him at that kind of dollar amount.

by Riney on Feb 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Who cares, I think anabolic steroids shpuld be legal in all sports, and for personal use.

by stinkinburrows on Feb 27, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

if roided up baseball players can hit a 700 foot homerun i want to see it

by davec84 on Feb 27, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, unfortunately for you they aren’t, and your opinion probably isn’t gonna change that.

by ufc4 on Feb 27, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no problem with making steroids legal for personal use if supervised by a doctor. Steroids are actually fairly safe and effective if used properly. Problem is, street users don’t use them in therapeutic doses, they abuse them.

However, they should always be banned in sports. Once you legalize them in sports, they become a de facto cost of entry. Athletes will HAVE to use them just to keep up with the Joneses. Creating a toxic environment where drug use is nearly mandatory is not something I want to see happen in any sport.

by Steve4192 on Feb 27, 2010 6:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Loses don't hurt headliners

Gina may have the biggest fan base in Strikeforce, but about 60-70% of them don’t follow MMA. Gina could lose two in a row, and people will still watch her fight. Her facebook is flooded with fans asking when she’s going to fight again.

by MMAGuard on Feb 26, 2010 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

She has

nice tits, Fedor doesn’t.

by Riney on Feb 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Titties Schoonover?

"For your information, I would like to ask a question."
-Samuel Goldwyn

by fedorade on Feb 27, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

lol… shitfarce has a cbs card headlined by Dan Hendo vs Jake Shields… Now they dont have Fedor on CBS in the hopes of building up a ppv which they need and if they dont have Fedor on their roster even a hail marry pass(ppv) is off the playbook.

Henderson cant headline shit… even if he was fighting mousasi the only difference will be in how many viewers they lose during the fight.

A Shields vs Hendo main event on CBS is going to bury them.

They just paid a shitload of money to guys like Bobby Lashley who have the power to choose their own opponents, gobs of contracts and fighters they need to start giving fights to, and the shit is just starting to stink We havent gotten to the Diarrhea yet.

by mmalogic on Feb 27, 2010 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

You were right.

Though we still haven’t forgiven you for promising Fedor/Brock at 103.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 27, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

This!

Seeing as how I live in Dallas, I was ready to marry you after you promised that up.

But like most marriages, it would have been based on lies and empty promises.

by Tap or Snap Radio on Feb 27, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I was ready to marry you after you promised that up.

I’m flattered but if you want to make it happen you’ll probably have to move to Canada to make it happen seeing as the whole gay marrige thing is not legal in Texas.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 27, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

to be fair to Logic he has been right with some things before it was released to the public. Things like international TUFS which he spoke about months ago but Dana has only started mentioning.

by Roujam on Feb 27, 2010 7:21 AM EST up reply actions  

You think their balance sheet will get them out of 2010? Or does Zuffa get their shot at another round of discounted free agents?

Did you see the size of that chicken?

by Heenan on Feb 27, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I am to the point where I

hope the UFC passes on Fedor and sends him back to Japan to wrestle Bob Sapp.

by Riney on Feb 27, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Could Backfire for M1

I had read something like this early today that M-1 was trying to re-tool Fedor’s contract. If they’re trying to get more money, not being on the April CBS card might backfire for M1.
What if the April card ratings do the same numbers or better than the one headlined by Fedor?
It will make Fedor look like he isn’t worth the money and M1 is screwed in their renegotiating.

by signal on Feb 27, 2010 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

You have to remember that while Fedor’s numbers on CBS were decent they were well behind either Kimbo event(even one of Gina’s fights had more viewers). CBS has put on 4 MMA events and Fedor’s is the third most watched yet Fedor was the most expensive to have on the card. CBS isn’t really bright when it comes to MMA but they are spot on when it comes to figuring out cost per episode.

by who me on Feb 27, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on articles last week I thought Fedor’s camp wasn’t happy because Strikeforce wasn’t leaving enough time for Fedor to get a full camp in before the fight?

by bignerd on Feb 27, 2010 1:54 AM EST reply actions  

Shocking development really, I mean M1 putting the squeeze to SF and them being powerless to do anything about it wow. Dana must be laughing his ass off at this mess, the sad thing is people will still think SF signing him was a good idea when in reality it was the biggest mistake the company has ever done.

by Raker on Feb 27, 2010 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

When a mid-card Kimbo on Spike pulled better #s than a Fedor main event on network TV… CBS probably realized they needed to move on.

by Paradoxx on Feb 27, 2010 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

Fedor and M-1 may be killing their “promotional partner” by leaving them with no ratings draw for the April CBS card. They must be thinking that there will be another CBS card or equally well-paying opportunity.

MAN, THIS IS BLACKMAIL

by theblade on Feb 27, 2010 2:34 AM EST reply actions  

With all the B.S. M1 pulls...

I’d rather not see Fedor in the UFC so long as he’s with them. The headache that M1 can bring won’t be worth it.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Feb 27, 2010 2:36 AM EST reply actions  

Kid, serious question: do you or Brent or Luke or anyone else at BE have any confirmation that m-1 is trying to renogiate with Strikeforce? Or is Sherdog’s source the only one reporting this right now? The reason I ask is this sounds exactly like what Cindy O was reporting on the Underground the other day and I couldn’t help but wonder if this was a Curveball situation where numerous sources of intelligence on Iraq all ended up leading back to the same source. Are there any other sources reporting on this conflict between the two camps or is this whole thing getting blown out of proportion by the cyber-echo chamber, where everyone keeps referencing the Sherdog report.
If it is true is it possible that Strikeforce is trying to renegotiate now that Fedor doesn’t come with Gegard?

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 3:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

The rumors I have heard is that M-1 has new power brokers in the company and they are trying to establish themselves as the alpha dog. That this is more of an internal M-1 struggle than anything else. Unfortunately, the way the internal struggle is playing out is through a shakedown of external partners.

by Steve4192 on Feb 27, 2010 7:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Same guy who shot down giving Gegard a piece of the company? And does not having Gegard as part m-1 weaken Fedor’s camp in negotiations? I don’t see how they could want to get more out of the deal when they just lost the second biggest star in Strikeforce.

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What Loretta is reporting

is the same as the rumors we’ve been hearing for a little while from multiple sources.
It’s clear that Fedor won’t be fighting on the April CBS card. That doesn’t benefit Strikeforce, Showtime or CBS.

Follow me on Twitter @KidNate

by Kid Nate on Feb 27, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

No, but there is a huge difference between m-1 trying to renegotiate and:
-Fedor being unable to fight because he reinjured his hand in Sambo
- being moved to May to be on a card with but not against Overeem
- That Strikforce can’t afford the bonus M-1 recieves when on CBS
All of these were other rumors floating around the last couple days with the same outcome, Fedor not fighting in April, but different meanings for Strikeforce. You have much greater knowledge of the inner workings of the biz than I, so if you guys have recieved the same story from multiple sources I’ll buy it. The only reason I questioned it in the first place is that everyone seemed to be regurgitating the same story as Sherdog and then people would cite them as reporting the same story as if confirming it.

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If Loretta and CindyO are posting almost the same exact thing, the fact that their histories are almost 100% opposite leads me to believe it.

by Phildo on Feb 27, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes but Cindy O could also have been aware what Hunt was going to report and was referring to that and not from a different source.

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

that’s quite a stretch.

by Phildo on Feb 27, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Why? It’s not like Cindy O doesn’t have contacts. All she has to do is get word of what Hunt is going to report. It happens all the time. Someone leaks to you a story that’s going to be released tomorrow, you comment on it today, and then people can point to said article the next day as confirmation. Dick Cheney did it everytime he was on Meet the Press.

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because cindyo and loretta are not even close to being in the same circles.

People would benefit from giving the story to cheney, how does loretta gain from giving that story to Cindy, or anyone for this matter?

A person famous for being a zuffa shill and a reporter who is constantly at odds with Zuffa coming up with the same exact story seems pretty convincing to me.

by Phildo on Feb 27, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said Hunt gave her the story, but easily someone else could have informed her what Hunt was going to publish. So UFC shill hears that Sherdog is going to print item that says Strikeforce is having problems with m-1, and then in the UG that shill writes that she’s heard that strikeforce is having problems with m-1. That doesn’t seem like a stretch to me

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So it’s more likely that she has sources that would tell her what sherdog is reporting than she has sources that would tell her what’s happening inside M1?

by Phildo on Feb 27, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. It’s a hell of a lot easier to hear what someone’s going to publish 24 hours in advance than to find out what’s going on behind the scenes of a privately held company of a rival promotion. Especially when, in your words, she’s a known “UFC shill”.

And my whole point is the rumors might be true, I just want more confirmation than Hunt reporting that a few sources are reporting that Fedor may be attempting to re-tool his contract.

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 3:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I stopped giving a shit about fedor a long time ago. I’ll still watch him wreck UFC rejects but it is what it is.

by KimboSliceGoHard! on Feb 27, 2010 3:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I actually kind of hope strikeforce fails in horrible fashion soon, hopefully a CBS card with hendo vs shields pulls in shit ratings so CBS dropps strikeforce ass and fedor,gaygard,king mo,hendo,diaz all head to the ufc. The rest can go to king of the cage lmao

by KimboSliceGoHard! on Feb 27, 2010 3:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I want Rogers in the UFC with a good camp.

Kimbo wants to take your caterpiller and do bad things to it.

by Mr.Kib on Feb 27, 2010 4:38 AM EST up reply actions  

who or what is “strikeforce ass”? i lol’d for sure.

by sadface on Feb 27, 2010 5:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Huge fedor fan

but fuck him and m1. Fedor vs Werdum or Overeem isn’t even worth getting excited for and they won’t even give us that. Until I see “Fedor signs with UFC” or he fights anyone that I give a shit about, I am just going to ignore any coverage on him and his shitty promotion. Get fucked, m1.

by baswoot on Feb 27, 2010 4:02 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I think Fedor is in talks with the UFC right now, when Dana was asked about it in the UFC 110 Q&A he had a massive grin on his face and said some thing like “trust me, we’re working on it. we’ll get him soon”. He actually sounded positive and excited when giving his answer about Fedor as well as having a big childish grin from ear to ear, if that says anything at all it says that things are looking up for Fedor in the UFC. If things aren’t rosy with strikeforce, there is nowhere else for fedor to make his money. I expect Fedor to fight against Brock before Mir or Carwin do. I think a big annoncement won’t be far away.

by Donk696 on Feb 27, 2010 5:46 AM EST reply actions  

Fedor has a voice

Everyone blames M-1 but it’s fedor as well he has a voice and his head is too big for his britchs hr thinks he’s bigger then the sport. Drug test? Wow. Padding the record even farther as of late doing anything he can to avoid a loss. Fuck Fedor I’ve lost all respect. Fedor will never be pound for pound champ again and if you think he is you don’t know what pound for pound means. You gotta brat the best to be the best and do it on a consistant basis.

by Bloodsport on Feb 27, 2010 6:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

To be fair,

I don’t really think Fedor’s padding his record right now. This is the most consistently tough competition he’s faced since PRIDE collapsed. Sylvia → Arlovski → Rogers → Werdum is pretty fucking legit.

by Tedd Welch on Feb 27, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

The competition he has fought lately has been more than adequate. The last time he fought an unranked opponent was back in 2007. His 2008-2009 and rumored 2010 opponents have all been quality competition.

While I would prefer to see him face the new generation UFC talent (Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir), I really can’t complain about him beating up every ranked guy outside the Zuffa umbrella.

by Steve4192 on Feb 27, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Definetly

If fighting Brett Rogers is padding your record I’d hate to see a tough fight

by KING FEDOR on Feb 27, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

you're right

but the one thing i don’t blame him for is wanting the steroid test. i think he specifically left japanese organizations because he didn’t want to have to face roided out freaks who he’d beat, but might cause him injuries with their unearned power.

i also think he specifically came to strikeforce instead of the ufc because it fit the previous criteria and it would be much more difficult (as we’ve seen) to match him up with top ten hw’s. he was smart enough to know that the odds of barnett or overeem actually being able to pass their drug tests is slim to nil.

by K Krush on Feb 27, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

i think something has to be up.

releasing this story does no one any good, especially because there is a story to release that doesn’t bring the bad press. If nothing was up, say Fedor isn’t fighting in April because of the hand injury suffered in the Sambo tournament. Sure, if you say that, Dana will laugh and tell you why they are super geniuses for originally saying he can’t do sambo, but that’s a lot better than the chaos that a story like this coming out.

Maybe this would have come out through the same unnamed sources, but if SF would have gotten out and controlled the story, maybe this wouldn’t have come out. SF going into radio silence caused the reporters to start digging, you shouldn’t give journalists incentive to dig if there is somethign buried that you don’t want to be found.

by Phildo on Feb 27, 2010 9:34 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Something definitely has to be up, but their is such a wide spectrum of things it could be I don’t want to even start speculating.
As for Strikeforce, we’ve discussed this before. For some reason they don’t say or leak anything. That’s great when you really need to keep a secret, but when there’s a void that people want filled the rumors start taking over. They really got to work on that because they’re letting others frame their actions

by John Nash on Feb 27, 2010 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I suppose we’ll know more if Brock gets “rescheduled” anytime soon.

certified warlord

by kenpoboy67 on Feb 27, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

so, wtf

So all these stories and conjecture is resultant one sentence in a Sherdog article?

However, multiple sources are indicating that the stoic Russian could be absent from both events as his management attempts to re-tool terms of Emelianenko’s existing contract with Strikeforce.

‘indicating" “could be”… hrmmm! We definitely need an update on the situation. Honestly it’s hard to care a lot about things until they become official

by Postpubescent on Feb 27, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

"FEDOR SIGNZ W/ UFC"

IZ THE ONLY THING THAT WILL GET ME EXCITED ABOUT FEDOR AGAIN…

"If I told you I was good, you would think I am boasting. If I told you I was not good, you would know I am lying" Bruce Lee

by DrGoodspd on Feb 27, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Fedor fighting in the UFC is the only thing that will get me excited…. and even then i’m going to boo him just because of pent up frustration

by fortune on Feb 27, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

2 hot chicks, a bottle of baby oil, a hot tub on the beach and someone

will only get excited by a Russian male in sweaters eating ice cream. I love the internet.

by Riney on Feb 27, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Rocky VII: RUSSIAN WINTER

Fedor is boiling over with rage, eager to avenge the defeat of Ivan Drago by Rocky Balboa. Think the Cold War is over? THINK AGAIN. The Italian Stallion and the Last Emporer engage in cataclysmic fisticuffs (no elbows allowed) to determine who is the greatest ONCE AND FOR ALL. Coming to theaters Summer 2011. KA-BOOSH!

Roy Nelson is the Catalina Wine Cooler of MMA

by djp88 on Feb 27, 2010 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

Alright, I understand this Fedor jive about him not fighting, I want him to fight to and it gets annoying, but he isn’t the only fighter doing this at all so I don’t know why he gets all the shit for it.

Alistair won’t even fight in the U.S. and defend a title he has had for ages, the last Silva fight is a distant dream and G.S.P. does not want to lose “friends”.

by jcbrewer on Mar 1, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

Smarts

Fedor has the opportunity to be like Tiger Woods (not in a sexual way). Woods has chosen to only participate in the minimum 15 yearly events needed to maintain his PGA card. He fills the rest of his time with international events that pay him $3M to just show up. For Fedor, Affliction was a big waste of time and money.

Personally, while I am sure that Leznar was sick with diverculosis (the lesser version of diverculitus), it benefited him to stay out of contention while Dana came back to M-1 to reopen discussions. This would be the BIGGEST fight in fight history, possibly even over some boxing matches. This would truly be Rocky IV and hell yes, I would watch the hell out of this fight.

by b_radical on Mar 1, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

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