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Michael Bisping Thinks He Should've Won the Decision:

"I don't know. It was a close fight. Personally, I think I won rounds one and two... I mean, Wanderlei did a great job. Congratulations to him. Full credit to him on winning the fight.

"Personally, apart from the guillotine – and I got dropped in the third round – but apart from the guillotine attempt off the takedown in the second round, as far as round two, I really didn't have any offense come my way. I felt I clearly won those two rounds."

"I'm a little annoyed, you know? I don't come here to put on a good performance. I come here to win. Winning is what's important... I lost tonight. I'm pissed off about that. I don't train this hard to get losses. But I want to get in there ASAP and fight another good name and get back to winning ways."

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I'm gonna make a bold prediction here and say Cain "pillowhands" (as some of you have called him) lol Velasquez catches Nog right on the chin and finishes via strikes on the ground. Nog looked good against an old Randy. It didn't show me much. We’ll see.

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 18, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 21, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not a chance.

by Popetastic on Feb 21, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

lol

I'm gonna make a bold prediction here and say Cain "pillowhands" (as some of you have called him) lol Velasquez catches Nog right on the chin and finishes via strikes on the ground. Nog looked good against an old Randy. It didn't show me much. We’ll see.

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 18, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Own the Podium became Owned on the Podium. What a failure.

Cigano, it is your time to avenge your master's loss!

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by CC11 on Feb 21, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t think he won any round and actually for a second I thought the fight was stopped at the end for KO, not the bell (couldn’t hear inside the bar).

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey

by JeremyShane on Feb 21, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

damn bro ...

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by CC11 on Feb 21, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That Sig is outta control, son.

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by Damon O. on Feb 21, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

15 lines for a sig, one line for a comment. need to have some balance!

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by Orcus on Feb 21, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

well i have since changed

if you can change and i can change
everybody can change! LOL

Own the Podium became Owned on the Podium. What a failure.

Cigano, it is your time to avenge your master's loss!

Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.

by CC11 on Feb 21, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, sorry for getting on your sig, it was more of a joke than a serious comment. but your new one is much more refreshing still :p

Everywhere I’m go, all them guys they says to me to kick for to him!
All them is hate him. I don’t know why, but no is just me, is everybady!

by Orcus on Feb 22, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

There is a lesson to be learned.

In the hierarchy of things that get more credit than they should, flurries at the end of the round are more important than takedowns where the other guy immediately stands up.

by Phildo on Feb 21, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

LOL

He was OUT from the guillotine.. You could hear him say plain as day to his corner..

“Am I Out ?? Is It Over ?” That bell saved him a couple times.. He got a couple TD’s but did absolutely nothing with them.. Wandy was back to his feet within seconds on every TD..

8-29-09

Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..

by MMAuthority on Feb 21, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, TDs are one thing, but if you’re not able to do anything, they shouldn’t mean a heck of a lot.

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by pud333 on Feb 21, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

matt hammill doesnt want to hear you whine about a decision loss.

I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08

by MicahW on Feb 21, 2010 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

HAHA

he lobbed that in, and you knocked it out the park. lol.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Feb 21, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

LMFAO!

Your style's like garbage cans meant to be taken out on a weekly basis
Ever since your first record you've been in a state of suspended animation
You look like Snuffleuffagus and Australopithecus
Me cray, you abacus

by ProfessorBLove on Feb 21, 2010 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah Mike, those jabs and takedowns you did nothing with count way more than you getting nearly Ko’d and choked out.

by xfreekx on Feb 21, 2010 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

Tito disagrees Mr. Bisping

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by Damon O. on Feb 21, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

Why can’t I stop staring at this?

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Feb 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Oddly enough, Bisping has kind of taken Tito’s mantle as the least gracious winner/loser in the sport. Most guys would admit that nearly getting finished twice trumps a bunch of jab & jog and a couple of takedowns.

by Steve4192 on Feb 21, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Bisping is hated...

but that was a close fight. I thought Wand was winning the third by slim margin before the knockdown, and subsequent ground and pound. I thought each round was close also.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Feb 21, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

I totally agree. I think the 28-29 score was dead right, but it was close, the Bisping hatred on here just makes people act as if him saying this is on the same level of craziness as Tito saying he thought he beat Griffin.

by TheKeyboardWarrior on Feb 21, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that fight was really close. I disagree with Bisping here but its not like it came out of left field.

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by Neil Manich on Feb 21, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the score

I hate Bisping for lots of reasons but I have no problem giving him credit for putting up a good, close fight. I think the judges scored it right and Wand truely won the second and third rounds.

He lost fair and square and yet goes on about how he thought he won and then throws in a comment when Dana is talking about Silve Vs Akiyama that he doesn’t have a scratch on him and is ready to take that fight. Show a little class, you don’t hear any other fighter talking crap like that at the press conference.

by Roll for Life on Feb 22, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew when it went to a decision...

that we would hear this crap from Bisping if he lost. The ego can’t be stopped.

by William Wilson on Feb 21, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Wanderlei did a great job. Congratulations to him. Full credit to him on winning the fight.

by Anton Tabuena on Feb 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, but say that in a really annoying/sarcastic cockney accent.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Feb 21, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t have cockney accent. His trainer/manager (the fat one) has.

by dancingChicken on Feb 21, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Would have been awesome if he had just stopped there.

by Steve4192 on Feb 21, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

but then he had to say he thought he won, which is BS :p

Everywhere I’m go, all them guys they says to me to kick for to him!
All them is hate him. I don’t know why, but no is just me, is everybady!

by Orcus on Feb 21, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

But that would show respect

I’m actually a Bisping fan, but he ran the entire fight and hopefully finally learns from his loss.

by asa on Feb 22, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Reading comprehension gets in the way of irrational Bisping hate.

by Worldisart on Feb 21, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Bisping is insulting Silva just by not sobbing in a corner, quivering in terror.

Keep firing Assholes!

Blackout is always right

by Ubernoober on Feb 21, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Zackly…..the guy is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is

by Cosmonutz on Feb 21, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Why wouldn't Bisping expect

the decision. He got the decision over Hamill, a fight he clearly lost, and he’s the posterboy for UFC expansion into the UK. Hell, he’s already coached the Ultimate Fighter even though he hasn’t done jack shit to earn that spot. With all of that comes a sense of entitlement.

by Ironbuddha on Feb 21, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

I didn’t know they had to do anything to coach TUF, except have an upcoming fight coming up

by IRodC on Feb 21, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Queue the Confetti drop

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by Damon O. on Feb 21, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I wanted Wandy

to soccer stomp his as when he went down, I was praying he would do it earlier in the fight too.

by Riney on Feb 21, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

At the final flurry, he did begin moving for a soccer kick…

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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 21, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you could see him start to stomp when he clearly remembered it was against the rules.

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by toxic on Feb 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Some stomping would have been fun. He definitely thought about it.

You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP

by pud333 on Feb 21, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Bisping's response:

http://www.vancouversun.com/mma

by Ozzz on Feb 21, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I didnt see the fight?

Was Bisping out cold in this picture?

by oousty on Feb 21, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He just needed the old coup de grâce. But his pal, the bell, saved him.

by grein on Feb 21, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Bisping lost the fight, but he did very well

It was a close fight, but Wanderlei won that fight. Taking someone down and not doing anything with it really shouldn’t count for much, and in this fight, it didn’t which is awesome. Wanderlei had some sort of meaningful top control in the second round besides that guillotine at the end, and of course, he had the knockdown in the third round and was working those leg kicks. I also felt that Wanderlei had more power shots in while Bisping may have had more clean strikes (but not power shots) in.

by chrisbboy82 on Feb 21, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

How many people has Wandy beaten in the UFC?

“Did very well” against a guy who couldn’t win more than one fight until yesterday.

There’s a reason the UFC always plays the same Wandy highlights prior to whenever he fights. That cage-straddle from his first UFC fight? Again?

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by Ozzz on Feb 21, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

wandy in 185 is a different fighter

plus he lost to chuck, rampage, franklin who are all good fighters [or at least at the time]

Once upon a time I was playing poker and talked to the next guy about my dislike for kids who wear MMA apparel acting all tough and give MMA bad rep. Sure enough Asian Dude sat down right next to me in his Affliction shirt and Tapout hat. Guy sitting next to me started asking me about the difference between MMA, UFC and Tapout. And Asian Dude proudly claimed he trains UFC. I was speechless. Then he starting telling me about his karate black belt, his wrestling pedigree and his dislike of jujitsu. He hates jujitsu because he does not like being on his back. (?!) Long story short, he then challenged me to spar with him so I invited him to my gym. He dissed my gym and never showed up. To this day I'm still waiting for him. Please contact me if you see Asian Dude.

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by CC11 on Feb 21, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I am guessing that you are implying from your comment that Wanderlei isn’t very good in the UFC, and Bisping “did very well” against a fighter who isn’t very good. Of course, there are things to look for like Wanderlei’s quality of competition, and how well or not well he did against that competition. While it is just conjecture from me, I have to wonder if Wanderlei’s win column would be better if he fought the Matt Hammill’s, K-Sos’s, and Stephan Bonnar’s before fighting the Rampage’s and whatnot.

by chrisbboy82 on Feb 22, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think people would be as pissed if

he would’ve pulled a Jardine and said, “you know, I think I was winning this fight until the knockdown”

Instead, even with getting saved by the bell, he still thinks he won? Please.

by ScooterMagruder on Feb 21, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

a couple of judges in that rampage/jardine fight said that jardine hadn’t been knocked down in the 3rd, he wouldve won that fight.

by kanodogg on Feb 21, 2010 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m sorry, but not having your opponent in trouble, almost getting choked out at the end of Round 2, and almost being TKO’d at the end of Round 3 loses you the fight.

by Rob J Nathan on Feb 21, 2010 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

I like Bisping but dude you almost got choked out, were saved by the bell and then the end of the fight stopped you from being pounded out. The fight was close up until the end of the second round. Bisping did win the second round but he just didn’t have an answer for the Axe Murderer Bullrushes.

by ChrisBat on Feb 21, 2010 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

well done Mike it was a close fight could of went either way.

I was a fool to think Bisping had any chance against the Axe Murderer, and even more foolish to bet agaisnt the great Puck Head.

by Tonyuk on Feb 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

a few of us at hooters thought that the fight was called at the end. i thought wandy got the tko until the announcement.

by ddax on Feb 21, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

It looked like the ref had told him that he was out. I was convinced it was a stoppage.

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by IHateMMA on Feb 21, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

All the best posts start with..

..“a few of us at Hooters.”

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by Ozzz on Feb 21, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

hahahhahaah yeah i was there with my dad and a few friends, and awec fighter and we all thought it was a tko at the end of the round.

by ddax on Feb 21, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I for one think that submission attempts need to count more and translate equally to striking attempts on their ability to end fights. Pretend that when Wandy was sinking in that guillotine, he would have been just as close to finishing the fight if he was standing on top of him and raining punches before the bell sounded. So it should count for that. But now Bisping shrugs it off as just a guillotine attempt just because his face wasn’t effed up. When in reality, that round should go hands down to Wandy for being extremely close to finishing the fight.

Striking and submission attempts have to be scored equally, and should be based on their likelihood to finish the fight, or set up finishing the fight.

by ChiCubs23 on Feb 21, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Scoring submission attempts is a slippery debate.

Submission attempts, and their success or failure, seems pretty black and white to me. Sinking in a guillotine choke is great and all, but unless your opponent taps or goes out, how can you say it was successful?

In this case it’s even worse because had it not been at the end of the round Wandy would have been successful, but it was the end of the round and therefore the choke didn’t accomplish it’s intended purpose.

by Worldisart on Feb 21, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The choke was still effective though. If you only count submission attempts that end the fight, why count strikes that don’t end the fight?

I think people usually go overboard when they are arguing for submission attempts to “count” more, but that submission by Wandy was locked in and tight, he should definitely get credit for that.

by Phildo on Feb 21, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think people usually go overboard when they are arguing for submission attempts to "count" more, but that submission by Wandy was locked in and tight, he should definitely get credit for that.

Agreed.

Sloppy armbars/triangles that are thrown up by the guy on bottom and immediately shrugged off by the guy on top shouldn’t count for anything. But a legit ‘catch’ should count the same as a knockdown, even if the guy on top eventually escapes it.

by Steve4192 on Feb 21, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Should the other guy get points for escaping?

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Feb 21, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so, because escaping from a possibility of being finished should bring you back to some sort of a “neutral” position, so no points being awarded. If you get floored by a strike but manage to not get knocked out on the follow up, you shouldn’t get points. Same situation.

by ChiCubs23 on Feb 21, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

What if you do some totally awesome escape like when Franklin dislocated his own shoulder and spun out of Lutter’s armbar?

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by Ubernoober on Feb 21, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d say no.

There are no credit given to fighters for surviving a knockdown without getting finished. The same should hold true of escaping from a ‘catch’. Treat it like a guy recovering quickly from a knockdown rather than getting finished.

by Steve4192 on Feb 21, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't feel so good on the other side, does it Mikey?

I’m trying to remember what Bisping said after he got his ass beat but still won the decision over Matt Hamill. I think it was something like “Go back to wrestling.”

In the post fight interview, Wandy should have said “Go back to being a douchebag!”

by bcpjkell on Feb 21, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

lol @ wandy shaking rampages hand at the end.

by Brian Gerard Tucker Jr on Feb 21, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

LOL... Why?

I thought that was awesome of him. They may not like each other, but they have tons of respect for each other.

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by poundnground on Feb 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what annoys me about him, he talks out of both sides of his mouth… he’s a legend of the sport, but he’s learnt nothing over the years and hasn’t evolved and I’m going to smash him… oh and full credit to Wandy for the win apart from the bits where I don’t give him full credit because I think I was robbed.

by brad23 on Feb 21, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

It’s always that “but” in there.

You can’t give full credit for the win, then say you should’ve won instead.

by MickDawg on Feb 21, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate the mentality of fighters these days where they think they should’ve won a fight by thinking they eked out 2 close rounds.

Dude, you almost got choked out.

Then you almost got knocked out.

You landed a couple of good punches but didn’t come close to finishing your opponent.

In nobody eyes should Bisping have won that fight.

by MickDawg on Feb 21, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Didn’t Bisping say something like “Is it over, did he stop it?” between rounds 2 and 3.

I think he was unconscious for a second.

by grein on Feb 21, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Rogan blew that call badly.

He kept on commenting about how Wand was doing the arm-in guillotine wrong and completely missed the fact that Bisping went to sleep and had to ask his corner if the fight was over.

by Steve4192 on Feb 21, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

But he was doing it wrong!

Sometimes it really does seem like Rogan will spend too much time criticizing a guy for improper technique than actually acknowledging the potential effectiveness of the move regardless. Rampage might have been right with his Rogan and jiu jitsu geeks comment.

"You never know, I don't know, you know?" - Nick Diaz

by Fake Emcee on Feb 21, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

exactly!

If wandy wanted rogan’s opinion on chokes he would have beat it out of him using BJJ BLACK BELT. WTF did he say that for? when have someone as strong as wand is if they complete the technique even 75% correct right they can make stuff work. As wand showed on sat.

by Raycetpfl on Feb 21, 2010 10:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

err post fail.... reposted

If wandy wanted rogan’s opinion on chokes he would have beat it out of him using BJJ BLACK BELT. WTF did he say that for? when you have someone as strong as wand is if they complete the technique even 75% correct right they can make stuff work. As we saw sat.

by Raycetpfl on Feb 21, 2010 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO WIN AGAINST TOP FIGHTER BY POINTS.

U must take the chances n risk to get the fight finished…

there’s no way, he expected to win this fight like he did against Chris Leben. By backpedaling n weak counters in order to gain more points than your opponent. NO NO NO. Axe Murderer brings his axe to the octogan EVERY FUCKIN’ TIME.

Wanderlei went on with his semi-automatic hooks in the last 10 seconds of 3rd round. He said he’ll try to finish Bisping until the very last second and he did just that.

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by chopstickthugz on Feb 22, 2010 1:02 AM EST reply actions  

Peeps just hate Bisping. He comes off like a tool even when he is trying to show a guy respect. Bisping cant win fights of importance…sure he does well against the dens kangs and Jason Days of the world but when it comes to those cross road type fights he comes up small.

by logan00 on Feb 22, 2010 1:37 AM EST reply actions  

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