Countdown to UFC 110: Nogueira vs. Velasquez
by Nick Thomas on Feb 20, 2010 11:34 AM EST
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"It was so loud, 14 thousand people screaming, I couldn’t hear my corner. Then I hear Anderson’s voice, my boxing coach, saying move to the right side and throw your right."Javier Mendez (Cain’s boxing trainer):
"Cain is able to hit you now and stop you."Michael Bisping:
"I’m going to choose my words very carefully because I don’t want to talk sh*t about a legend. But I’m going to go out there and look to bully Wanderlei Silva, impose my will and beat him and I’m going to do just that."Rafael Cordeiro:
"I always talk to Wanderlei, I know your history, You know your history, Make the difference in the ring. This fight can see the old Wanderlei, he never steps back, always forward, forward. This is the real Wanderlei."Wanderlei Silva:
"I’m back to my old style; Silva is going back to the normal days. I’m prepared for a great future. I know in this year for me is going to be great."
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I just saw Rampage Jackson on a Nike spot
Is Rampage sponcered by Nike cause he was on their commercial.
seems he was asking a question, not reporting anything. but sure, act like a dick to him!
by sadface on Feb 17, 2010 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Bob Cook, Velasquez’s cornerman: “I can’t remember anybody ever having any success just having a one sided fight with Nogueira just holding him down. We’re going to have to stand this up.”
Maybe they should watch some some tape.
I don’t believe for a second that Big Nog can defeat Cain with his boxing, he’s not his brother. Velasquez ate some big shots from Kongo and just motored through them. For a smaller HW he’s a beast and shouldn’t hesitate to take Nog down and batter him. It’s his best chance to win,risky of course, but it’s his strength.
Just because he’s not his brother doesn’t mean he’s trash or something, and it’s not like Cain’s stand up has looked outstanding in his past fights to think he’d have the edge. And he hardly motored through Kongo’s shots, he crumpled on a number of occasions but Kongo’s mindset seemed to be “okay I have him hurt, heres my chance to hold him against the cage and let him take me down again!”
"You never know, I don't know, you know?" - Nick Diaz
Not referring to Big Nog’s boxing.
I’m referring to the fact that one of the most famous heavyweight fights of all time was Fedor holding Nog down for 20 minutes and ground and pounding him.
I agree I also thought gee keep ignoring Fedor will ya when they said that …I think the UFC probably edits out anything that mentions Fedor …who knows maybe the cornerman said “well , BESIDES Fedor of course , who’s the bassest man in the planet” and the UFC just deleted that :)
But Fedor also crushed Nog on the feet btw , just wanted to add that
I don’t think he motored through Kongo’s shots, Kongo just exhibited terrible awareness and charged right into TDs while Cain was sorting out the cobwebs. Props to Cain for getting those TDs while stunned.
Nog may not be able to put Cain out cold, but if he stuns him, I believe he’d follow up much smarter and more effective than Kongo did, with either strikes or maybe a finish like Paulo Thiago did to stunned Swick (a move that Nog specializes in).
Perhaps he’ll follow up with a D’arce and gator roll??
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by Anthony Pace on Feb 17, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
well thats balls! he didnt ‘motor’ through Kongo’s shots at all! He was almost done! Any decent, well rounded HW would have put him away after that!
That’s really not true, and just rehashes an argument that has been had on here many, many times. Yes, Cain was rocked. Yes, Kongo didn’t make the greatest decisions on how to follow-up. But part of the reason that people give Cain credit for that is that he was able to shoot and finish with authority multiple takedowns WHILE dazed from a big-time power shot, and that part of the reason that Kongo didn’t try to follow-up better was that Cain has such overpowering go-to wrestling skills that Kongo only had time for that one shot, then was trying to stay off his back.
It’s entirely possible that Kongo is not the most “well rounded” fighter, but he does have some wrestling, he’s an excellent striker, he’s hardly an untested rookie, and a dazed, half-conscious Cain took him down, held him there until he got his wits about him, and beat him so bad that my wife had to look away. Take less away from Kongo; give more credit to Velasquez.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
Big Nog talking about the Randy Couture fight -
“It was so loud, 14 thousand people screaming, I couldn’t hear my corner. Then I hear Anderson’s voice, my boxing coach, saying move to the right side and throw your right. "
Didnt Randy knock Nog down too? And with a weak looking punch as well.
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by xFenixKnightx on Feb 17, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Randy landed a few shots and wobbled Nog once, as I recall. But I don’t remember a knock down as such. I don’t have the fight handy to go watch, though.
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Yeah I deleted the UFC 2009 best of and regret it just because of this epic fight.
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by xFenixKnightx on Feb 17, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
He definetely didn’t knock Nog down at any point, but I think there was like one point where Randy landed some shot and Rogan started his “he might be hurt” stuff. It was probably right before Nog dropped him cause if watching Ultimate Knockouts has taught me anything, it’s that if Rogan and Goldy start complementing your striking in any way you will be knocked out hastily.
"You never know, I don't know, you know?" - Nick Diaz
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Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 17, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Granted, both Kongo and Rothwell are highly durable fighters. Even that Stljnic fighter seemed like a pretty durable guy. Velasquez is a wrestler converted into MMA, so for some, it takes time to get good standup and KO power.
by chrisbboy82 on Feb 18, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Bisping -
“I’m going to choose my words very carefully because I don’t want to talk sh*t about a legend. But I’m going to go out there and look to bully Wanderlei Silva, impose my will and beat him and I’m going to do just that.”
I dislike Biping.
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 17, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
This was followed by him and his coaches talking mad shit.
by Jonathan Snowden on Feb 17, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well honestly he shouldn’t be blamed for what his coach said , he’s coach is a grown man and I doubt Bisping wrote him a script .
But I hate Bisping too :)
Who ate all the pies?
Bisping’s coach did! lol
You’re right, his coach is a grown man but do you really think what his views are that different from Bisping’s? They spend hours each day together and I bet when he says stuff like that Bisping isn’t saying ‘hey show some respect’, I’m sure he laughs and joins right in. This is one of the reasons I don’t like Bisping. He tries to portray himself as being this humble respectful fighter but deep down his true nature is nothing like that.
by Roll for Life on Feb 18, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Bisping is annoying , hard to argue with that – only this time he’s less cocky than usual . I think it’s a combination of him getting destroyed by Hendo (being humbled as he said) and , as he said – him not wanting to piss mma fans off by shit talking a legend . So Bisping tuned the trash talk down. Smart move I think , especially since there’s a real chance he’s gonna lose again.
Hard for me to pick anyone here , actually this whole card is filled with good matchups .
I agree about the card, it’s a good one. I really like both Nogueira and Velasquez , I don’t know who to root for. I guess either way a fighter I like gets closer to a title shot at cockchest.
by Roll for Life on Feb 18, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wanderlei began training simply to meet girls -
“This is funny, I started training at 13 because I had a big head and was a little fat. Then my friends in school started to have girlfriends and nothing happened to me. Rafael Cordeiro, he’s ugly and sometimes he has nice girlfriends. And I look at him and say “This guy have maybe in the future I’m gonna have.”
by Nick Thomas on Feb 17, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Another reason why Wandy is AWESOME!!!!
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 17, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Rafael Cordeiro -
“I always talk to Wanderlei, I know your history, You know your history, Make the difference in the ring. This fight can see the old Wanderlei, he never steps back, always forward, forward. This is the real Wanderlei.”
Wand -
“I’m back to my old style; Silva is going back to the normal days. I’m prepared for a great future. I know in this year for me is going to be great.”
Thats when I run.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 17, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
no
Thats when I run up and get Pictures with all of them…evn Ninja
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
isn’t wandy’s old style the reason he kept getting ko’d
by cagefightonacid on Feb 17, 2010 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I’m not sure he ever abandoned his style. The clinch, yes. I actually hope he tries to take Bisping to the ground a bit to keep him off balance, or just to get in tight against the fence if a takedown fails. And pressure with his movement while countering, instead of pressuring with the “propeller of doom”.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 17, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about this …I think the reason Wanderlei’s style worked so well was also because the competition wasn’t as fierce as now . His old style worked great against lesser competition like Fujita or Sakuraba , or even Rampage back then . Obviously it’s a combination of things – Wanderlei also getting slower , but I have no doubt the competition toughened in the last 8 years.
However it’s still should be enough to defeat Bisping …the gods of mma must hate Bisping so Wand should win.
As much as I love Wandy, I think stylisticly Bisping can beat him. I honestly think that is the hardest fight to pick on this card.
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
if we get a wandy who remotely resembles the monster who destroyed everyone in pride
bisping has no chance, if wandy is truly washed up then bisping will win that what it comes down too
Ya forgot to point out that the reason it's a hard fight is because we havn't seen how Wandy will be at MW.
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
Straight striking versus looping abandon
I think the old Wandy might have a tough decision loss against the Bisping we’ve seen lately. I’m hoping the rumors of Wandy working to integrate his ferocity with technically stand-up are true, cause this could be amazing.
I’m absolutely certain that Wand will destroy him, but if I decide to be all reasonable about this, I think this could end up being decided by the wrestling and groundwork. But come on! Bisping is a poor man’s Rich Franklin. WANDY FTW!
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 17, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Javier Mendez on Cain's striking is always good for a laugh.
Remember when Cain was first coming up and Javier said he could fight K-1 right then, and could be a champion amateur boxer in a matter of months?
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Feb 17, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions
Still disappointing that they can’t create a promotional segment without having to double, triple and even quadruple play footage and quotes.
How are these people professionals?
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Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 17, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
“I was in the jiu jitsu world championships in New Zealand when I was 16 years old (1995).”
- Michael Bisping
So many things wrong with this.
you dont know what your talking about.
He’s referring to Japanese Jiu-Jitsu you doucher! He was a black belt in this before he started kickboxing and won a silver medal in the mens competition at 16!
Say what you want about Bisping but his defensive Jiu Jitsu is very good! I like the way he laughed off Wanderlei’s black belt. Alot of fighters, especially wrestlers have very high level jiu jitsu but dont feel the need to be ranked or go on about what rank they are!
Kenwoo, try spelling correctly yourself when correcting someone else. Contractions have an apostrophe, thanks.
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by keyboardwarrior on Feb 18, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
bisping said he knocked out “about” three guys for this fight. “about” three? how can he not be sure how many?
Flash drops?
Y’know the ones where the guy seems to come-to just before he hits the ground? That’s all I can think of.
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I didn’t think I could dislike anything British. I’m a complete Anglophile, but those guys just erk me. I have serious doubts about this new found KO power that Cain and Bisping have found. Bisping’s KO’d about 3 guys (something very fishy about that statement) and Cain just happened to Knockdown some guys while the the cameras were there…I call shenanigans. Maybe it’s my inner PRIDE FC fanboy, but I’ve got Nog vis 3rd Rd Sub and Wanderlei via KO.
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I was going with Bisping
but I realized even though Bisping is more technicaly sound, I could never vote against Wandy
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
big ups to Rob in his segments
i think wandy takes this in his usual fashion, but i do recall him saying he is not afraid of bisping’s power. i think we have all seen time and time again this is a dangerous way to think about anyone.
big nog ftmfw
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I have to say: despite all the buildup trash it was interesting to see Bisping say ‘best line ever’ to Wanderlei’s ‘and I’m going to kick your ass’. The reality is these guys will love each other for their courage and grit once the battle is done. A fight makes friends faster than enemies.
where is the lesnar mir 2 post fight pic?
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by Thats It For you! on Feb 20, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
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