Georges St-Pierre Talks About Adding More Muscle Mass at 170
"Before Alves I never got bigger than 190. I was always around 185 all my life. When I fought Alves I was 185 the night in the ring. Alves I heard he was walking around before his fight at 215, Anthony Johnson is 220 and Dan Hardy is like 200 pounds over."
"Those guys are big and that is the one of reason I want to get bigger. I'm never out of shape but I need to put some weight on. I have a large frame that makes me look big but I fight some guys over 200 and I feel it. I need to be more skilled."
"That's why I put the extra weight now, extra muscle on me and I think it's going to do me good. I gained like 8 pounds of very lean muscle."
HT: mmaweekly.com
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I didn’t know hardy was that big
"So I put 2 and 2 together and decided that your pissing me off" "Here. Its a fruit roll up. I was gonna make you a casserole for your loss but uh... I didnt"
"So its sorta like that movie the predator, except for hunting people hes takin a crap" - Carl from ATHF
by II SMASH II on Feb 17, 2010 11:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Alves is just a bull at 170, and is super thick, but many of those other guys are both bigger and taller than GSP – guys like Fitch, Hardy, and Johnson are all 6ft tall or taller.
We’ll see how GSP looks in training with the 8 extra lbs of muscle once the UFC Primetime shows air in about 3 weeks. It seems like a good idea, as long as he can keep his speed and cardio.
Gsp is the last man I’d expect to have little man syndrome
"So I put 2 and 2 together and decided that your pissing me off" "Here. Its a fruit roll up. I was gonna make you a casserole for your loss but uh... I didnt"
"So its sorta like that movie the predator, except for hunting people hes takin a crap" - Carl from ATHF
by II SMASH II on Feb 17, 2010 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think GSP has little man’s syndrome. I think he’s the ultimate professional, and is taking steps between every fight to make himself better. After the Alves fight, he’s dedicated himself to better nutrition, and hiring a nutritionist and chef to work with him 5x a week between fights sounds like it is going to pay off. GSP has always taken a well thought out, scientific approach, and I see this as another example of that.
by Hardcharger on Feb 17, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
When you hear of guys putting on weight, it’s dudes like GSP and Franklin who I think are probably doing it correctly. Especially GSP, considering his scientific approach to all aspects of fighting, including strategy.
You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP
The little man syndrome comment was very sarcastic
"So I put 2 and 2 together and decided that your pissing me off" "Here. Its a fruit roll up. I was gonna make you a casserole for your loss but uh... I didnt"
"So its sorta like that movie the predator, except for hunting people hes takin a crap" - Carl from ATHF
by II SMASH II on Feb 17, 2010 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On "Rumble"
He doesn’t need to cut that much anymore, though. His last fight against KOS he looked gassed halfway through the first round.
It had to be all that weight cutting that did it to him.
Or all the garbage Kos pulled in that fight
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Feb 17, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
You mean outboxing and wrestling him. Or was it getting poked in the eye when Johnson went for the most ridiculous illegal knee. Don’t want to start a pissing match, but Johnson looked way out of his league in that fight.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
I think Rumble would’ve lost the match, yes Kos is the better fighter. But you gotta admit, some of the shit he pulled was recockulous
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Feb 17, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
It was terribly dissatisfying the way that fight went. Mysterious eye poke to Kos and two pokes to Johnson, and though Kos seemed to be the better fighter, Johnson was doing really well until the whole thing fell apart.
Agreed, but I don’t think Johnson was 100% in that fight, mentally. I suspect much of that had to do with the reportedly awful weight cut.
by HarmlessNinja on Feb 18, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
The funny thing is that, honestly, GSP:s way of winning has always been to muscle people around. And now he is bigger? It’s nice with fighters who aren’t content with only being the best. The difference between Liddell and GSP, I guess.
yet he is always talking about skills, skills and skills. He sounds like Frank Mir more or less. In order to really compete, I got to put on the size.
yes, some times I'm an old curmudgeon
by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Except that GSP is a champion even through adversity, like over sized opponents. But I see what you’re saying “sounds like Frank Mir” and being like Frank Mir are two different things.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 17, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
GSP doesn’t have to worry about being oversized as much as some heavy weight matchups can get. GSP was cutting to 170 and fighting around 185 and opponents in the extreme like Alves fighting at 215. There are a lot of heavy weights not even cutting that will have to fight someone that us cutting to 265 and at fight time they’re back up 10-15 lbs. So you could be like Fedor or nog fighting at 230 maybe 240 figthing someone that is 280+ at fight time.
When was Alves 215? Off season, yeah, but not in the octagon…
by dancingChicken on Feb 17, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
GSP is a champion through adversity? Even if he is smaller he is the most physically gifted fighter of this generation. His ability to just completely overwhelm guys is due to his athleticism. And Mir did come back from a pretty serious accident to regain the belt (depending on your definition of belt).
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
How do we quantify who is most gifted? Granted, GSP is an amazing athlete, but so are guys like BJ Penn, Josh Koscheck, and newer guys like Jon Jones and Phil Davis. With MMA needing such diverse skillsets, guys like GSP and Penn can both be considered amongst the most physically talented ever, while possessing much different types of abilities overall (with some overlap, of course).
Weight gain
He’s gotta gain some weight for the potential super fight with Anderson Silva. I noticed that he looked alot bigger in his last fight with Matt Hughes then his first two. His back looked alot wider and he was tossing Hughes around like a rag doll.
Something Has To Give When . . .
you’re cutting from 220 or 215 to 170.
I think Bernard Hopkins has a smart approach that helps him increase his longevity as a professional athlete, maintain fight weight year round. Just stay in shape.
yes, some times I'm an old curmudgeon
Exactly
In no way, shape or form can it be ‘healthy’ to cut from 220 like Rumble does, all the way down to 170.
While I think the weight cutting isn't healthy.
Don’t confuse what is going with this kind of weight cutting and a fighter actually being out of shape.
Your right on being out of shape. Some guys stay in training shape, fight shape and some as the uber scholar Chael Sonne suggested are bums, they don’t stay in shape like certain action movie stars.
yes, some times I'm an old curmudgeon
by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i can only pray Hardy pulls the upset and knocks GSP cold if not there is always guys at 185 who can fulfill my dream.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Weight, schmeight
Anderson Silva is a slender, not particularly imposing MW. I doubt he is far above 185 at fight time. And when he went up to LHW he looked even smaller. In the griffin fight he looked like a WW against a LHW. BJ Penn always had to struggle to get to 170 and was always smaller than his opponents. I think this weight business is overrated. And its making fighters like Johnson do some terrible cutting and affecting performance. I think by the time you cut 50lbs in a month it negates whatever advantage you think you had by going in the lower class.
Silva didn’t look small against griffin, even the commentators pointed out that if anything Anderson looked bigger.
Its good to know your paying attention to the commentators
Because I’m not. I like to see things from my own perspective. And when they were in proper angle and perspective. Silva looked far more diminutive. And many other have agreed. You don’t have to though, its alright!
Silva
I also agree Silva looked just as big as griffin don’t know what fight you were watchin dude.
by Bloodsport on Feb 17, 2010 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey, you and your girlfriend Zach like to comment together I see
A tag team of sorts
Oh Zing. The old girlfriend zinger NEVER gets old.
I thought Silva looked pretty big too. Definitely not as big as Forrest (who is as big as it gets in LHW) but he certainly looked like the same weightclass. I thought it looked similar to Machida vs Tito. Definitely not WW vs LHW though, that’s ridiculous.
Silva’s body is strange and deceiving. His S&C coach said that he was 210 lbs in fight with Griffin.
by dancingChicken on Feb 17, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
See Diego Sanchez for an example of negating any advantages from weight cutting.
Forrest Griffin looks bigger than most LHW because he has a wide upper body. He makes Rampage looks a bit smaller. Griffin used to fight at heavyweight and can walk around at 240lbs. I think. Silva is just deceptively small. Franklin realized it at the last minute and when a reporter asked Dana White about a GSP-Silva superfight after the results of UFC 101, he basically said no way. Silva is too big, he said he was almost as big as Griffin. Silva has been known to walk around at 220 (Fedor’s weight) or 215lbs.
yes, some times I'm an old curmudgeon
by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
He walks around burgers, that's why he's 220

by dancingChicken on Feb 17, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, that’s not correct regarding Silva’ size. Silva is a bigger MW than GSP is a WW. Silva is 6’2"+, and walks around upwards of 225. That’s a good sized LHW, and a huge MW. He looks lanky because he has long limbs, but he’s anything but small.
I think Anderson is an anomaly in how he can gain weight between fights, but still look and perform excellent at 30+ lbs below his walking weight.
by Hardcharger on Feb 17, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely; Anderson Silva is a freak of nature in a lot of ways. He’s a monster middleweight. Look at his fights with Rich Franklin who (I think) is a more natural light heavy than middleweight; Anderson has reach and a bit of height on Franklin. It’s just because he’s not bulky, and his musculature is spread over that long frame, that he appears to be smaller than he is. People who have stood next to him in person say that there’s a real misconception about the guy – he’s actually pretty huge.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
sparred?
or became a punching bag?
"All I guarantee is violence" - Wand
It was right before the leben fight. Hands only, no feet. I held my own. We were both about 6’2/200 lbs
No, no MMA for me
Just training and teaching
Damn, what could have been.
now we have to listen to you teach us about how small anderson is for some reason
by SilverNBlackZach! on Feb 17, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Now that, coupled with your comment above, is very funny
But really, you don’t “have” to listen to anything. I myself am very good and tuning things out. Im gonna tune you out now!
Held your own
Lol haha haha tell me more please I need to laugh more please tell me more. You held your own with silva haha ufc on ps3 don’t count lol
by Bloodsport on Feb 17, 2010 6:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sparred with him?
Yea and I taught him how to fight
by Bloodsport on Feb 17, 2010 5:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Coming from the guy who says Anderson looked like a welterweight against Griffin? Your perspective, which you seem so obsessed with, along with your credibility, is shot to shit.
Coming from the guy who appears overly obsessed with what I have to say. I mean, if someone has so little credibility in my mind. I ignore them and move on, not keep commenting for 3 days. Its obvious you have an agenda.
Silva used to be a little thin when fighting in Japan, but he has out on a lot of muscle. He weighs lots more than 185 come fight time.
Nah, his trainer said he was 210 lbs in fight with Griffin, and he was spongy in that fight. There is difference between his looks at 185 and 205.

by dancingChicken on Feb 17, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Eh.. Ok this is the reason why I shouldn’t argue on the internet. Yes there is a difference. Yes, we all knew. And no, I don’t know what you are trying to prove.
All I am saying is that he’s not so huge MW. On the first picture he’s 206 (210 fight time)
On the second picture he’s 182. He obviously didn’t rehydrate to 210 fight time, he’s more likely 195 or 200 lbs, which isn’t making him a huge MW.
by dancingChicken on Feb 17, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Good point, I agree
And its all about your perspective, there are many, and thats OK right?
And sorry, I’m a bit tired, didn’t notice I’m replying to the wrong person. Pardon…
by dancingChicken on Feb 17, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t the point of having weight classes to allow fighters of two equal sizes to see who is the better man. Seems like that point was lost with fighters trying to take advantage of the system.
Except that they are all taking advantage of the system in the same way.
I get what you mean, but you can’t really stop this sort of thing from happening. The current options for curbing it would probably be even more dangerous for fighter health than the current weight cutting situation.
which is why i my favorite fighters are the ones that cut the least amount of weight like fedor, machida bj penn. They dont need a size edge to beat their opponents, its pure skill. They are the ones looking for bigger opponents to fight because they are just that good.
Machida bulked up and is cutting weight, as is Penn at LHW. Fedor obviously doesn’t cut weight since he’s a HW.
by The Darkness on Feb 17, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
They are cutting the least amount of weight compared to others are they not? and as for fedor.. well the size difference between him and his opponents speaks for itself. As someone the size of fedor would be fighting at LHW typically.
I would be willing to bet that Penn comes into his fight with Edgar the larger fighter but I agree that neither cuts an exorbitant amount of weight. You’re also right about Fedor. He easily could cut to 205.
by The Darkness on Feb 17, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Edgar is on the smaller end of lightweights. Look at the promo pictures from Abu Dhabi where he’s standing next to Penn.
by HarmlessNinja on Feb 18, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
A fighter like Frankie Edgar can be in Title contention and a top 10 Lightweight while Gleison Tibau is a mid-to-upper-mid-tier fighter. I don’t see the problem because I would guess that more than 70% of UFC fighters are cutting a good amount of weight. Even if this current system didn’t exist, there would still have fighters that are going to be bigger than others in the same division.
by chrisbboy82 on Feb 18, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
So this is old right?
Since Marquardt just lost and isnt getting a shot soon and we know that Gegard was that mystery guy he was referring to. Im pretty sure GSP knows if Mousasi is really planning a jump to the UFC. That’d be sick!
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Although I agree it’s a good idea, other things equal, for GSP to get bigger and stronger, it isn’t as though he needs that additional weight to clean out the MW division.
His MMA wrestling is already good enough to outwrestle everyone at MW (which, in all of MMA, appears to have exactly one good MMA wrestler and Im not talking about Hendo), which means that people fighting GSP will be on their back, a position from which any weight advantaged they have will for the most part be nullified.
Silva would either knock GSP out or get pounded on until he was a bloody pulp. (I think the former scenario is less likely, btw.) GSP could come into that fight at 170 and take down Silva at will (I’m of course assuming this is so based on the success mediocre to average wrestlers have had against him — Lutter, Newton, Chonin, Leites, etc.). A skilled 170 pound wrestler will completely own a mediocre 200 lb wrestler. Period. Silva is not only a mediocre wrestler but he also doesn’t appear to alter his offensive output much to avoid the takedown, which makes him even more susceptible to take downs. In short, GSP doesn’t need to be 200 lbs to beat Silva.
I know GSP just wants to maximize his chances of winning but I’d selfishly like to see him take a little risk and make the jump to MW sooner rather than later. If he thinks he needs to walk around at 205 lb to be champ at MW he’s giving the various bums in the UFC’s MW division way too much credit (with the exception of Silva and perhaps Belfort) and himself too little credit.
IMO, I don’t think GSP feels the weight is as important to secure the TDs against the UFC MW division, but more to be able to hold guys down. Especially with GSP’s active guard passing, big guys (like Alves at WW), can sometimes get up when GSP is in, or moving towards side control, just due to brute strength and due to having a 185 lb guy on top of them. Maybe if the guy in side control was 195 lbs (or thereabouts), they wouldn’t be able to escape as easily.
IMO
GSP (when he bulks up) could beat anyone in that division except for maybe Maia or SIlva.
GSP has been planning on putting on weight for about 3-4 months now. In other interviews he has said he needs to start putting on muscle so when he fights at MW he would be in better shape.
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
Maia?
How the hell does Maia get the fight to the ground?
GSP would KO Demian. See Marquadt V Maia.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Feb 18, 2010 5:29 AM EST up reply actions
Oh ya I forgot that Rumble was injured before that fight.
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
oh ya there is no doubt he is still a HUGE WW
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
GSP talking
- I think GSP will continue to talk about moving up in weight in a calculated manner. This is something that he will not rush.
- The media will continue to ask him about the super-fight at MW against Anderson Silva.
- Dana will continue to say that Silva is too big. Ed Soares will sigh.
- Anderson Silva will continue to say he wants big fights.
- 2011, GSP will talk about moving up in weight but will continue to secure his legacy in the MW division.
- BJ Penn will fight in the MW division.
- Anderson Silva will probably have another 205 fight.
- Dana will probably talk up a super-fight between Silva and Fedor because Anderson won’t face Machida.
- Yoshizo Machida will talk about his son facing Anderson Silva.
yes, some times I'm an old curmudgeon
by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2010 3:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
error, BJ will fight in the WW division. But please do note, he has fought at a higher weight division.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
True except Silva will be champ because Shogun is gonna beat Machida in their rematch.
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
Hmmm . . . I don’t think Silva wants to become a roadblock for either Lil Nog or Machida. But yeah, he can very well become a champion in both divisions. He already defeated a former LHW champion.
yes, some times I'm an old curmudgeon
by VeeisAnimated on Feb 17, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ya thats true, it's a shame he is friends with so many top tier fighters
"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii...et spiritus sancti."
I wonder what good news GSP is sitting on, the news about his new training partner? Could it be Mousasi, the two of them trained together recently and seemed to get along very well, and he recently parted ways with m-1.

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