Jose Canseco after his first workout with Nick Diaz:
"I want to train 2-3 months and take Herschel Walker down. He knows he has nothing on me. I'm going to train for this fight and kill him."
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I like that he’s making a plan for his imaginary fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 14, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions
After Walker he’s planning to fight Fedor, Brock, Muhammed Ali, and Voltron.
by ufc4 on Feb 14, 2010 10:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
thank you for bringing Voltron back into my consciousness
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by Anthony Pace on Feb 15, 2010 7:23 AM EST up reply actions
Strikeforce call his bluff.
Tell him he can fight Walker in Strikeforce if he agrees to three things:
1) trains three full months with Gracie. Walker did this with AKA to prove he was serious.
2) proves himself in a fight as Walker did against Nagy. But this fight will be on the unaired prelims of a Strikeforce Challengers event.
3) a purse of $600 when he fights Walker. Strikeforce will donate $100,000 to the charity of Mr. Canseco’s choice. Hell, make it $200,000.
Watch how quick Canseco would give up on fighting Walker.
by John Nash on Feb 14, 2010 9:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Edit: Watch how quick Canseco gives up on fighting Walker.
by John Nash on Feb 14, 2010 9:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Throw in a random drug test
AND IT’S ALLLLLLL OVER!!!
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Solid Mike Goldberg reference.
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 15, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
The part that makes this ridiculous is taking a fight to prove himself for a fight with Walker. Otherwise, I agree.
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by Charles Awad on Feb 14, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
By “proves himself”, I meant he proves he’s serious taking a low prestige fight. The Walker comparison was so you could justify it to Canseco.
by John Nash on Feb 14, 2010 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still
Cut that part out and it makes sense to me.
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by Charles Awad on Feb 14, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
prove himself by fighting nudge… and why would it be unaired on a challengers event, walker was highly billed on a main card of a main show.
so what if walker donated his cash f canseco wants to keep it, so be it.
book it for sf April show, canseco/nudge if he beats nudge, give him walker
by kanodogg on Feb 14, 2010 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Walker gets main card status on a Showtime event but Canseco is regulated to prelims on an effing Challengers card?
This hate is getting ridiculous.
by Tap or Snap Radio on Feb 14, 2010 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I believe the word you were looking for there is “relegated”.
by ufc4 on Feb 14, 2010 10:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It’s these damn “smart” phones and their predictive text! Curses!
by Tap or Snap Radio on Feb 14, 2010 11:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's simple
Did Walker deserve Main Card status? Not really, but he did actually put some work into training for his match. Jose Conseco on the other hand, went to fight in Japan just to get a quick paycheck in one of the most ridiculous Freakshow Fights in MMA History.
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Yeah, Canseco gets all the blame in that one while Dream officials are left blameless.
by Tap or Snap Radio on Feb 14, 2010 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Super Hulk Tournament was marketed as a Freakshow by Dream
They never tried to pass it off as anything else. So, no, I don’t blame the Dream Officials at all. Conseco went into that for a paycheck, and that’s it. We’d have never seen Conseco try MMA again if he hadn’t smelled a possible paycheck, after seeing Walker fight at Strikeforce: Miami.
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So the dude wants to get paid, big deal.
You need to stop acting like MMA is nothing but honor and shit. It’s two guys beating the christ out of each other, let’s not forget.
by Tap or Snap Radio on Feb 14, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno… “Into thy hands I commit my spirit” sounds like a verbal submission to me.
Keep in mind, he physically couldn’t tap due to… well, ya know…
by Tap or Snap Radio on Feb 15, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
no, no, you're right...
he definitely tapped…
by cagefightonacid on Feb 15, 2010 12:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jesus wasn’t intelligently defending himself, the stoppage was justified
by kanodogg on Feb 15, 2010 12:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
HAHAHAHA
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
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by Charles Awad on Feb 15, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Conseco doesn't deserve the same level of respect that Walker gets.
I’ll leave it at that.
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Jose Canseco didn't get traded for
5 players and 8 draft picks.
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by pdl on Feb 15, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anton didn't get that football reference.
or is that baseball? Anton didn’t get that either.
by Anton Tabuena on Feb 15, 2010 5:37 AM EST up reply actions
the trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker_trade
Just in case you really wanted to know.
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by WeaponElDeem on Feb 15, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
Wanting Canseco to go away has nothing to do with the honor of MMA it’s just the standard response when the dude says or does anything at all. Even crappy Vh1 reality shows are made worse due to his involvement.
by who me on Feb 15, 2010 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’ve always been very vocally anti-“these guys are all warriors! Respect! Honor!” but this fight is among the worst things that could happen to the sport aside from like…a high profile death.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 15, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
jose
I saw jose on pros vs joes years ago and rany was there too. He said jose was throwing kicks in the locker room and had a black belt in take my dough or something. I think he has dabbled in martial arts before but damn….
HMC was good enough to fight Fedor...
but not Canseco?
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
I like Canseco
This guy is fearless, a true warrior. He may be old, and not have any experience, but he wants to do it, He is willing to get the shit kicked out of him for money. That’s what Phil Baroni does, and many other fighters who like to lose.
they should keep giving him fights for that reason… his highlight videos would be awesome
by cagefightonacid on Feb 15, 2010 12:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The funny thing that could happen is this. IF (this is a big if) Jose Canseco trains, and invests the money (anyone know how much it costs to train at a top level gym for a few months? I have no clue…) and Herschel Walker refuses to fight him, you KNOW he’ll start calling out other guys, maybe even the guys he outed in his book. The guy loves the media spotlight and apparently goes through money like a crack addicted sailor, so he’ll want to make money off of it.
A top quality training camp can run over $30,000, I doubt Canseco wants to drop that kind of money, especially if he doesn’t already have a fight booked.
holy crap. That much for 2-3 months? I mean Cesar Gracie is probably cheaper, but that’s crazy. Although as I said I think Gracie is trying to use him to show how good his gym is, so the payment might work out a little differently…
I was thinking like, 2-3k a month or something. Shows you how back asswards I had it.
Yeah, the school is only the beginning
They have the main coach, the bjj, wrestling and boxing coaches, sparring partners, nutritionists, massage/physical therapists sessions, strength and conditioning coach and probably more.
All of them are working with you for about three months and getting paid like anyone else.
People just don't like Canseco
he is just doing it for a payday though (everything he’s doing is for a payday frankly). He continues to ruffle feathers and honestly while I don’t care about freak show fights (talking about them anyway), Canseco would be a good opponent for Walker.
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This would be one of the most talked about fights ever
and would give Strikeforce a lot of exposure. As long as Strikeforce didn’t make this kind of thing the norm, or lied and said these guys were better than they were, there is no problem with this fight.
All the people complaining would watch anyway.
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