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Updated: Bloody Elbow Confirms Strikeforce Is Not Meeting With Jose Canseco

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When Jose Canseco "tweeted" the following:

@mike_keck & I are on our way to meet with cesar gracie, nick diaz and the strikeforce reps. Time to get to work.....

it led to a bit of speculation that maybe Strikeforce was deciding to explore the possibility of making Canseco vs. Herschel Walker a reality.  This was despite previous reports that Scott Coker was not interested in having Jose fight for the promotion.

Just to clear up any confusion I reached out to Strikeforce where Mike Afromowitz provided the following, very to the point statement to me:

We are not meeting with Jose and he will not be fighting Herschel Walker.

Not much more speculating one can do on the "will they/won't they" aspect of Walker/Canseco in Strikeforce. It's not happening, and Jose did not meet with any Strikeforce reps.

Update by Brent Brookhouse:  MMA Junkie ran a story earlier this evening stating the following:

Despite several reports to the contrary, it appears Strikeforce is at least giving Jose Canseco (0-1) the time of day.
 
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker and Canseco gathered today in a San Jose, Calif.-area restaurant along with esteemed trainer Cesar Gracie to discuss the possibility of the former baseball star fighting for Strikeforce, according to Gracie, who spoke with MMAjunkie.com Friday before the group met.

Clearly this took me by surprise given that I spoke to Strikeforce officials earlier today who told me no meeting would be taking place.  So I reached right back out to Strikeforce who stated the following:

Nothing has changed.  Scott met with Cesar at a restaurant earlier today.  Cesar trains 3 of our champions.  Jose Canseco was meeting Cesar at the same restaurant and walked in as Scott was about to leave.  Cesar is training Canseco.

Reading between the lines based on what we've heard from all parties it sounds like a possible situation where an "accidental run-in" may have been set up by Gracie and Canseco to put Jose in the same room as Coker in hopes that something would come from it.

But Strikeforce has stated in plain English that they are not "meeting with" Jose and will not promote a Canseco/Walker fight.  I have no reason to believe that they would lie in this case when a simple "no comment" or "we're exploring every option under the sun" would serve them much better.

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but why?!

did he not realize he would get called out the next day?!

by cagefightonacid on Feb 12, 2010 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

some of the life’s mysteries you just can’t ponder.

by woooburn on Feb 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he wanted to generate so much buzz that Scott had to make the fight. I think Canseco thinks it’s 1994.

by verloc on Feb 12, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny, they’re really putting their foot down on this. I wonder if they’re doing this so that Shotime can’t force them into doing that.

by TLow on Feb 12, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Fuckin Canseco..

He should just set up a Paypal account on his Twitter with a button shaped like a coffee can.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Feb 12, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Or a tomato can!

/rimshot

Get rid of the ramp!

by ihateemo on Feb 12, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Either way

Can’t spell Canseco without “can”.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Feb 12, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

As I commented on the "Visit to Gracie's" report earlier

1st, Canseco doesn’t want to put the up front training money(probably because he doesn’t have it)which is not up for negotiation. 2nd, he thinks the training they recommend is way too much(again, not something that is negotiated at this gym). 3rd, Strikeforce has done nothing except say no. Canseco’s reps are reportedly trying to find another promotion to host the fight and get it on some kind of “Cable” program. He then will challenge Walker publicly. Reports from AKA are that Walker will not accept it under any circumstances. So, the issue is dead, regardless of what Canseco does or says. Its a dead horse, stop beating it.

by SimplePsych on Feb 12, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

I still can’t believe this pic is real but it is. haha. I would get really drunk after something like that.

by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 12, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

do you know what it's from?

i’m dying to know the back-story behind this embarrassment.

by zakkree on Feb 12, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Press conference for the release of his second book, I believe.

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by Luke Thomas on Feb 12, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I just did a little google detective work, but it seems like this is after Manny ramirez got suspended. he called a press conference to gloat or something

by Phildo on Feb 12, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it was when Manny got popped and he wanted to brag to the media that he was right.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Feb 12, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, we won't be beating it.

But ESPN will.

And Boomer.

"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."

-Lao Tzu

by RoyalB on Feb 12, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the thing.

People buy into these lame lines like “no such thing as bad publicity.” Yes there is, there absolutely is.

And if we’re not out there pounding the ground making it known that we’re not behind these kind of fights than the mainstream media is going to see it as something that the MMA community wants to have happen.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely hate that line

And have oblivious parties, that know nothing about marketing, say it to me on a regular basis.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Feb 12, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, and i’m sure that’s why they are saying that they want nothing to do with it?

by BradCr on Feb 12, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant other than a Canseco fight. Strikeforce is going to get pushed by Showtime to do stunt fights. Watch.

by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i will. just like i watch all the other fights. i don’t believe that there’s purity to be found in 2 people fighting. i watch as much for entertainment value as much as i do for the technical aspects of the sport.

by BradCr on Feb 12, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Like a street fighter against a football player!

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-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 12, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The best part about his dream performance was the entrance. Hong Man Choi came out to highlights of him knocking people out, and Conseco comes about with some bimbo on one shoulder, and a bat over the other, to a highlight real of him hitting dingers over people’s heads in the MLB.. I thought that was TOOO FUNNY!

by ChrisBJJ on Feb 12, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

I’m sure Coker wants no part of Canseco, too bad he has no say in it Showtime calls the shot and if they want Jose to fight Hershell he will. That’s why Dana never wanted to give power away to a network because once you do you become their bitch.

by Raker on Feb 12, 2010 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky for Walker, I suppose.

by Poindexter on Feb 12, 2010 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

Scott did meet with Canseco - MMA Junkie
Despite several reports to the contrary, it appears Strikeforce is at least giving Jose Canseco (0-1) the time of day.
 
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker and Canseco gathered today in a San Jose, Calif.-area restaurant along with esteemed trainer Cesar Gracie to discuss the possibility of the former baseball star fighting for Strikeforce, according to Gracie, who spoke with MMAjunkie.com Friday before the group met.

by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 12, 2010 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Oh great

They’re giving us the Pitino treatment.

Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"

by Blackout612 on Feb 12, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure that out right now. Working on getting back in touch with my Strikeforce contacts...

but please keep in mind

according to Gracie, who spoke with MMAjunkie.com Friday before the group met.

This is according to Gracie…I don’t know if it’s true or not. Not that I think that Cesar is full of shit or anything. I’m just saying, I don’t THINK that SF would flat out lie to me when they could have either declined comment or said that they’re not sure where things will end up but they’ll do what they feel is best.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

well they did only say “We are not meeting with Jose”. maybe they thought you were asking about Jose Feliciano?

all kidding aside, this is sketchy behavior on their part.

by woooburn on Feb 12, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

could also be a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

by Phildo on Feb 12, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Cesar said they met with Coker, not Afromowitz.

Maybe Mike got left out of the loop.

by Steve4192 on Feb 12, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Update coming just as soon as I can type it up...stand by

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

aaaand...updated

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The answer to all this is pretty simple

Jose Canseco and Cesar Gracie are like two peas in a pod. Any MMA fan worth their salt should be able to tell this is going nowhere fast.

by smoogy2 on Feb 12, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Please do not make this fight.

Herschel Walker is doing his best to put a serious face on MMA. He’s been a reverential ambassador to the sport. Don’t taint his hard work and good intentions by pairing him up with a slimeball like Canseco.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Feb 12, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

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