Vitor Belfort Out of Title Bout With Anderson Silva at UFC 112
by Kid Nate on Feb 11, 2010 6:10 PM EST
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Yahoo's Kevin Iole just tweeted:
Vitor Belfort is injured (shoulder) and off #UFC 112 title fight with Anderson Silva. Confirmed by @danawhite More details to come.
Zak Woods comments:
With Belfort off the card all eyes turn to Chael Sonnen who recently defeated Nate Marquardt in a number one contender bout. However Sonnen suffered a nasty cut and is medically suspended until March 9th. Could he be ready to go by April 10th?
Is there anyone else the UFC could realistically stick in to fight Anderson? Nate Marquardt was just dominated and Demian Maia is medically suspended until August 6th. Too bad Zuffa can't call Dan Henderson.
On the up side, at least Belfort's the challenger and champion Anderson Silva is uninjured and able to fight. The problem is that the UFC has had a very hard time finding compelling middleweight opponents for Silva. Who can the UFC bring in to face Silva? Should he fight someone at Light Heavyweight instead? If so, who?
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Sonnen must be happy as fudge lol. Nate must be kicking hiself
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Anderson/Franklin III – best outta 5!
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2010 5:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
At Light Heavyweight!
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
I didnt think about this as a possiblity. Maybe move the fight up to LHW and give Silva a fight there so you dont have to worry about having a legit title contender. Thats probably the best option.
Nate mentions the option of a LHW fight in the article.
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
you skimmed an article thats two paragraphs long? thats just lazy
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
I think they’re friends now, and Anderson would rather kiss him.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Feb 11, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rich/Anderson kissing booth!
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2010 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can see the story evolve now, “A burning hatred between Chael Sonnen and Anderson Silva was further incensed when Silva engaged Rich Franklin – labelled as one of three nice guys in the sport by Sonnen – in a kissing competition.”
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
That cut was huge. I dont think Chael can recover in time for a title fight. In fact i think he would be stupid to do so because hes probably only going to get one crack at Silva and he should make sure he is fully prepared.
Im going to throw out a crazy replacement suggestion . . . Sexyama
Chael will use some of that “Right Wing, Oregonian Mysticism” and be fine for an April fight.
by LikeTheWhiskey on Feb 11, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Agree 100%!
i think the size difference will be too much for him tho.
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by Thats It For you! on Feb 11, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sexyama is the best replacement
he’s not coming off a loss and he’s been inactive for awhile while he “awaits” a fight between Wandy and Bisping.
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Oh man
I hope the UFC makes Sonnen fight Anderson now. Then we’ll hear no more of this nonsense from Chael, just excuses for why he got dominated.
by CaptainSpaulding on Feb 11, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I don’t want to see the Mad Dog get KO’d again.
Pain is Temporary
Pride is Forever
i think that is going to be the case most likely, esoically where he didn’t get a scratch in his last bout.
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by Thats It For you! on Feb 11, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
give him...
a 250 schlub with a menial office job and virtually no training. I’ll do it for 50 gs and a case of really nice scotch.
by some schmuck in texas on Feb 11, 2010 5:44 PM EST reply actions
Amazingly, thats not so farfetched.
by MickDawg on Feb 11, 2010 5:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know they will.
Handy vs. the Spider.
If Anderson fights at UFC 112 (which I doubt), and if he fights someone currently under contract to Zuffa, I’d bet on it being Couture.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Feb 11, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I hope not
Randy would take a beating.
by CaptainSpaulding on Feb 11, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Lord!
The curse continues into 2010! Little Nog would be a good opponent at light heavy, but they’re buddies, so that’s out. Also, what the hell did Belfort do to his shoulder that needs two months to heal?
actually nog has said he’d be willing to fight machida or anderson should the need arise… this makes alot of sense, cause forrest has openly said he wants no part of nog.
I wasn’t aware that Little Nog was willing to fight Silva. That would be great!
by pwdminotauro on Feb 11, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
GSP
I know it can’t happen but UFC 111 already has Mir vs. Carwin. Give Hardy another opponent and move GSP out a couple of weeks!
by SanDiegoMMA.net on Feb 11, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions
The cut fucks everything up… Anderson will need to fight at 205 otherwise he probably wont be on this card.
Yup. Nobody uninjured at 185 who is deserving.
Even at 205, the list is short, since Shogun is locked in, and Anderson is friends with Rogerio
Silva/Silva (thiago)?
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2010 5:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
One Caveat!
I’ll buy that if he promises in the bout agreement not to complain about anything short of gunfire afterward.
Randy Couture
..IMO give him Randy it will boost up the buys and both fighters will make some good loot not to mention Randy could give Silva problems and make it a good fight
Shane Cawin....the next UFC HW champ....Mir......another puffy face with an added broken jaw....Brock you're next
then the world would end because we would all be saitsfied at that point.
by Krimson on Feb 11, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not until BROCKLESNAR defeats Mir again, I'm not.
The UFC 100 fight just wanted me to see it again.
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does he have an out in his contract as well?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Feb 11, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Feb 11, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
No
Give a Strikeforce fighter a shot at the UFC MW gold? Eh… No.
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by Blackout612 on Feb 11, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Especially when he’s one of only two guys outside the UFC that actually has a decent shot of beating Anderson.
by ufc4 on Feb 11, 2010 10:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who could carry a main event with him?
Akiyama
Maia
Randy Couture
Thiago Silva
CroCop
Kimbo :)
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
I was thinking something like that
but instead: Alan Belcher. Fuck yes I’ll watch that beating.
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F U C K ! Then, b u m m e r !
I really wanted to see this match.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions
I know I'm in the minority
But I was never crazy about this match anyways. Randy, Chael are both better options.
Human beings are too fragile
BattleBots, anyone? I’ll wait it out for the T-800s.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Feb 11, 2010 5:56 PM EST reply actions
Toro FTMFW
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by Anthony Pace on Feb 11, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor wont sign with the UFC though.....
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
The UFC has a fighter on stand by for every fight.
I’m sure we’ll get an announcement soon.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions
Options
I’ll vote for either Couture, Akiyama or any so-so heavyweight. That would be interesting to see.
Anderson vs Arlovski?
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2010 6:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Randy makes the most sense. And will generate more buys than Vitor would have.
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by mburtoni on Feb 11, 2010 5:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Anderson Silva would destroy Randy. UFC is not going to let that happen.
The UFC is trying to build up a last run for the LHW title for Randy. I don’t know if getting beat up by Anderson is such a good thing for that narrative. I don’t think Randy will brought in to replace Vitor.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions
I don't know about that man
Dana NEVER has a problem doing things that will make/ save him money.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 11, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
i’m probably reaching, but wouldn’t they make more money giving randy a 205 title shot in vegas in a year, rather than having him co main event a tape delayed show.
by woooburn on Feb 11, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chael would be stupid...
He’s got a huge gash, and he can’t contact until Mar 9th. I believe he’s suspended until Mar 24th anyways, but that’ll get cut early most likely. Still, 4 week training camp… with a healing wound. Too risky. Fight could get canceled again due to re-opening for one.
Couture is the best bet, but he’s also rumored to fight Franklin at UFC 115. So that’d be out the window now.
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Furthermore...
Maia is out till August until cleared. No way he’s in the mix. Akiyama is just wrong.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 11, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhere
Hendo is getting his lulz
For real though… Vitor didn’t even deserve the title shot. Marquardt & Hendo both deserved it quite a bit more, but Nate got mauled by a certain rabid conservative, and the UFC passed over Dan.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 11, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
More like Hendo is wishing he would have accepted less money
Jake Shields <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Anderson Silva in terms of potential money. Probably could have gotten a cool mil for going over there, being the “heel” and getting his shot
Meh
He’ll probably be making quite a bit of bread fighting on CBS. Plus, stylistically Shields is a much easier matchup for Hendo than Anderson is.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 11, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
But IF Dan loses to Jake it would be a much bigger hit
to his career. With Anderson a loss wouldn’t demolish all of his value. If he loses to Shields at 185 his value is going to go the way of Andrei Arlovski’s post Bret Rogers.
no, dana wouldn’t have paid him the big bucks, which is why he left. i doubt they were willing to toss him a % of ppv sales.
sponsorships were a big part of it too
didnt he lose a 300k deal a week before UFC 100 because Zuffa banned them?
Hendo is making less in SF
but he won’t have to fight the same comp or have as much pressure as he would in the UFC.
Just Make the Rematch with Nate Marquart
I mean they did the same thing back when BJ Penn/St Pierre 1 happen to see who fights Matt Hughes. St. Pierre won but then he injured himself and so BJ Penn stepped in to fight Hughes in a pretty good 3 round fight he ended up losing.
We all remember St. Pierre’s famous quote after that fight don’t we?
I’m not impressed by your performance! (With French-Candain Accent). Chael can step in after and come up with a new quote that I’m sure he’ll be ready to deliver.
by KillerInstinct on Feb 11, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i agree. just give the fight to nate.
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by sonofapsycho on Feb 11, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
true
but not according to the judges
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on Feb 11, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
??
Ummmmm, BJ won the 1’st fight by RNC. Just sayinnnnnnn
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 11, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
read it wrong.
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-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on Feb 11, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
True BUT
It’s been the perferred fight the fans wanted to see (or Henderson). He was just held and GnP by Chael and in Pride rules Nate might of got the Decision since he was close to finishing the fight a few times and it “appeared” he did more damage.
IMO I think Nate would be a more competitive fight than Chael against Anderson anyhow.
by KillerInstinct on Feb 11, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
ah my bad. read that wrong. i thought you meant the first gsp and bj fight.
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by sonofapsycho on Feb 11, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
do we have any idea how long belfort is expecting to be sidelined?
if it’s not long, they should just postpone the fight, rather than doing another silva fight at 205.
A LHW fight seems more likely for Anderson.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions
San Do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYXDY5dPhVI
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 11, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kimbo and CroCop
How did I end up on this bandwagon and why does everything say property of Chael Sonnen?
that wouldn't be fair
for Kimbo and Cro Cop
by CaptainSpaulding on Feb 12, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Some other LHW options
Luiz Cane
Jon Jones
Bader
Jardine (kind of don’t mind this one)
I still watch Randy over any of these guys tho
lol @ luiz cane, that dude used the backpeddle and run strategy vs. lil nog, imagine what anderson would do to him…
why would you destroy jones/baders careers before they get rolling.
and do you hate jardine or something?
Jardine has nothing to offer silva
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by Thats It For you! on Feb 12, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
why not nate?
not that far fetched really. bj and gsp fought for the #1 contender for hughes welterweight title. gsp got the decision win, however got hurt in training and bj stepped in and fought hughes.
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-Sonny Liston
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just realized killer said the same thing. my bad.
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-Sonny Liston
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by sonofapsycho on Feb 11, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
No Problem
Your a reasonable psycho :)
by KillerInstinct on Feb 11, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Chael Sonnen is only medically suspended in America in Nevada partners
It would piss off the commission, but they wouldn’t do anything about it really. Sonnen is a go if they want him.
The best answer I've read so far has been either...
A LHW fight, or a fight against Marquart since he came out of that fight much less banged up than Sonnen so he’d likely be ready to fight. If Silva wins, then Sonnen fights Silva after about 3-4 months, if not then we get to see a rematch between Marquart in a 5 round match and hopefully a lot wiser.
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Jone jones wont be ready in time he fights in march
and Bader fights in a couple of weeks, but i like the Luiz Cane idea.Dont know if he is sceduled anytime soon.I would love to see JOne jones and silva do it though, I think JOPnes needs some more time and then i think he will be ready.For sure!!!!!!!!!!!
They wouldnt throw Jon Jones to the wolves...
they want to build him up and give him a legit shot.
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its a marquee, HUGE card in UAE held outdoors
definitely Randy
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Shit.
Smartest thing said yet. Sign that son-bitch.
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-Randall Munroe
sign him yes, but he got MAULED by MM before he got stupid and wild. good luck selling that.
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
He just KTFO'd the p4p heaviest hitting striker in the world.
Who is also well ranked in K1. You can sell it.
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Selling a guy who got dominated before a miracle punch, whos last fight was a loss to a blow up WW? everyone is going to see through that. Lawlor is a worse choice than akiyama or belcher.
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe a hard sell to bloody elbow users but Lawler
has fought on CBS a bunch of times and was a champion for EliteXC.
The UFC used to throw title shots at marketable names coming off losses, this isn’t bad at all…
i’ll go as far as to assure that this absolutely won’t happen.
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Couture said
it took 6 months to walk right after Rizzo tore him up. I bet he is months away.
you think that card would only get 6 to 8 hundred thou buys? sorry, you’re wrong on this one. guaranteed at least 1.2 mill
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
1. yes i do. the best p4p fighter in the world against couture, properly marketed?
2. BJ just MASHED Diego, and Edgar can be sold properly
3. Its the first outdoor UFC ever and its in abu dhabi
the UFC is going to sell the fucking shit out of this. It will get a million, probably more. 700 max? you just pulled that number out of your ass, and a horseshoe came with it.
child, please.
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I have a problem seeing any early/tape delayed event getting over a million buys.
by MickDawg on Feb 12, 2010 3:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder how much money they’d have to throw at GSP to get him to drop the Hardy fight and move up to 185 now.
Why even bring up impossible options?
Let’s be reasonable.
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by Blackout612 on Feb 11, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously everyone is thinking it
So I’ll just say it already:
Yushin Okami. You know you want it.
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
There really isn't a reason for it not to go to Sonnen.
He isn’t suspended in the UAE ya know…
he can still train cardio even with the lacerations, and then he’ll have a four week camp, this is among the better options.
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
The only problem is that 4 weeks is not long enough to give him the time required to deliver all the shit talking he wants to do.
by DirtyML on Feb 11, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's 2 months guys. Chael doesn't need a medical clearance to talk shit.
I’m sure he can train without contact until he gets cleared.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously if you look at Twitter (Chael Sonnen is a trending topic!) this is the fight people want.
Anderson/Soares on the other hand, do NOT want that fight. $5 says we get fucking Cote-Silva II.
He can still train a lot of things with a cut on his face.
He is “medically suspended” in Nevada for a cut. He could start training nearly anything tomorrow. No harm no foul if they don’t bother the cut any more. Nevada wouldn’t stick their nose into whatever business he is doing in his gym in Oregon.
train a lot of things?
I have to disagree. Can’t train striking or takedowns for certain. Even BJJ would be dicey (no triangles).
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I can't believe nobody has sad this yet
JAMES BALONEY TONEY!!!
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Well played sir!
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f-- it, why not Kimbo?
Who wouldn’t want to see that, actually?
I would love it
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
best options
chael- med suspension, but still possible
nate- how could this be sold after how he got dominated?
wandy & bisping- i don’t think they would move either
randy- the fight both have been looking for, the best headliner the ufc has had consistently against the top p4p in the world… think its a little marketable? yeah i’d say so. bj, randy, and anderson on the same card
If
they give the fight to Nate over Chael, then that will give that much more ammo for shit talking about Silva. So then later when Chael does fight Silva, there will be THAT much more hype for it.
"I love it when a guy is bleeding on top of me." -- Diego Sanchez, post fight interview about his fight with Clay Guida
Feasibly they can. I’d rather not see it, but they can simply declare it a non-title fight and make it 3 rounds. Or if ends up being a catchweight fight then it’s not a title fight any longer (but that would be shady).
"I love it when a guy is bleeding on top of me." -- Diego Sanchez, post fight interview about his fight with Clay Guida
BJ & GSP 1
They did it after that fight. They try not to, but situations like this are exactly why they did it then, so its possible!
If Anderson cant get an opponent for 112… then his next fight will be against Chael – most likely in Vegas end of May.
nate vs. anderson- "how could this be sold"
By showing Nate’s highlight reel, including the pile drive.
I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.
You know what? I blame Anderson and Ed Soares. All that dicking around about the bullshit elbow injury…thisis their fault.
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haha
good one.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
dont think anyone has mentioned matt hughes. he will get killed but they can scratch the silly henzo fight and plug him in if needed.
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Renzo is fighting Hughes as long as 112 is in Dubai
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by Anthony Pace on Feb 11, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah!
Faber, Aldo, and Torres vs Silva in a handicap match!
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Tell then to come in and make sure they take there shoes off . They have to sit at the kids table though.
by #1 piggy on Feb 11, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lmao!
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Seriously, it’s getting more and more obvious that this NEEDS to happen. I don’t know what silly contract structures are holding things up, but the UFC is not usually prone to slipping up on decisions like this. But folding the 135-145 divisions into the UFC has gone past being a no-brainer and has become a desperate necessity.
Maybe they’re just waiting for the WEC PPV to flop, in which case they should stop putting awesome fights on that card.
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by AJB on Feb 12, 2010 4:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How about HW?
Give him a big ole 250 lb-er…I would pay to watch that!
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I'm embarrassed I didn't think of this earlier!
Pat Barry!
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I was just getting ready to post the same thing
How ridiculous would that be?
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
ridiculous in a good way
of course
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Please don’t do that to Pat. I like him too much.
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by Blackout612 on Feb 11, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
This is a massive, marquee card held outdoors in the UAE
75% Randy. He’s the best draw and the easiest fight to see, plus the card would get 2 mil plus ppv buys
i don't think it gets anywhere near 2 mil
but 1.2 mil or so for sure.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Brock vs Couture didn't do close to 2 million
You honestly think a tape delayed squash match against Anderson Silva that would be a completely one sided affair on paper would do more? Look at Anderson’s numbers vs Brocks.
Anderson doesn’t sell that great on his own. How many buys did Anderson Forrest do? Not even a million.
This event being tape delayed would hurt it even more. 500k-700k is the max for it, and that might even be a reach.
Child, please.
1. yes i do. the best p4p fighter in the world against couture, properly marketed?
2. BJ just MASHED Diego, and Edgar can be sold properly
3. Its the first outdoor UFC ever and its in abu dhabi
the UFC is going to sell the fucking shit out of this. It will get a million, probably more. 700 max? you just pulled that number out of your ass, and a horseshoe came with it.
child, please.
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
TAPE DELAY?
Dude, this card wouldn’t sniff 2 million buys. Anderson vs Brock wouldnt even do that. You are officially nuts.
The only 2 mil PPV right now
is Mayweather vs. Pacman. Even Fedor vs. Lesnar wouldn’t do as good of numbers.
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over his entire career, for sure he is
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
He just fought
Coleman and it won’t do 350. Lesnar, BJ, GSP could fight a paint can and sell more.
he said in a post fight interview that he would get right back in the gym, and look in my post above. you’re wrong, plain and simple
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
he fought COLEMAN. Not Anderson Silva.
PPV sales is all about the match ups. Nobody expects UFC 109 to do much more above 300k buys.
UFC 112 will still sell because BJ Penn has a history of selling PPVs.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson doesn't sell well, why do you think they double up events he is on?
BJ against a PPV nobody, and Randy vs Anderson still might not do a million buys.
Thats exactly why Couture would be perfect.
If that ass kicking of Forrest didn’t make Andy a draw, an impressive performance against Randy should.
by xbuckeyex05 on Feb 11, 2010 8:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What is he gonna do here that he hasn't already done to others
Like Franklin and Forrest? Anderson isn’t a draw because is is foriegn chooses/doesn’t know how to speak English.
Beating down another beloved hero isn’t going to fix that. Now if he KO’d Rampage, Rashad and Tito in rapid fire, then we might be onto something.
Someone should call up Thiago Silva. He’d do it. Most definitely. He’s one out of two guys that makes sense with the other being Handy.
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And you think the UFC would be opposed to an Anderson Silva beatdown of Thiago Silva?
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I think Thiago Silva would be opposed to an Anderson Silva beatdown of Thaigo Silva.
by verloc on Feb 11, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least he wouldn’t have to worry about being taken down.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
by FlyByKnight on Feb 11, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
They might be, frankly. i guess I just disagree that it’s “one of two fights” that makes sense. Thiago has faced one top level striker before in Lyoto Machida, and I think what Anderson might do would be worse.
I’d take Patrick Cote over Thiago honestly. Thiago has more strength and power than most guys, but he sticks his chin way, way out there and has pretty poor striking defense and an average chin. At least Cote’s a pretty durable guy- he has a terrific chin and could survive getting picked apart from the outside for a while.
what about Mia
JU jitz is huge in Abu Dabi , lots of people there would love to see him win.
For what do u know.
they will be fightin Uae, so i wonder if it will matter.?
Anderson Silva's next opponent.....
ROYJONES!!
The Seattle Times linked to my website in June 2009. I wasn't aware of this until January 2010.
Best options in my universe
1. Chael Sonnen – the guy who likely steps in.
2. Randy Couture – has a deathwish and the UFC and Dana like to pretend he wouldn’t be flattened via vicious KO against any top ten LHW.
3. Robbie Lawler – if it were 2005 this fight would already be signed. The UFC doesn’t like making fights like these for whatever reason anymore. Not since the Hughes’ title run or Dan Henderson vs Quinton Jackson has someone had a title shot first fight in.
4. Kimbo – It would sell, we know that.
I wonder what Chael is thinking right now
If they offer him the fight and he turns it down all his “tough guy” talk will be laughed at. If he accepts the fight and loses via the cut opening up or gets destroyed he will get ripped for taking the fight in the first place. If he wins he will be the second coming of Fedor.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I really like the Randy Idea
For several reasons.
1. It’s a HUGE drawing fight. It has that “dream” matchup feel even though we know it will be completely one sided.
2. It puts Anderson up against a top notch wrestler. His one weakness.
3. It gives some time for Chael to heal up. That way there’s a legitimate title fight.
4. It gives Vitor a year or so to recover from surgery.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
And one more reason
Randy is loved by ESPN. He’s all over it when he fights. This will finally be the pump up Anderson needs to become that huge draw the UFC so desperately wants.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I understand
But you’d rather see Chael fight Silva not at his best? I’d rather have a filler fight so Chael can heal up and get his shot fully healthy. I love Anderson and dislike Chael but he deserves that much.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Yeah, unless they push it back until late May, I don’t think Chael should do this, but I can see how he might see this as the stars aligning for him. He had everyone forgetting about Vitor last week anyway, even though at that point he wasn’t likely to get his shot until August or September. I don’t really like any option that much, but Randy makes the most sense. Plus it comes with the built in excuse that Randy’s fought too much too often over the last 8-9 months, so he won’t take much of a hit status-wise, though he’ll take plenty damage-wise.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 11, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... I don't want to see a brain damaged Randy
I don’t care how much Zuffa will pocket.
I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.
by mma_dude on Feb 11, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Randy? I don't think so.
The UFC is trying to build up a last run for the LHW title for Randy. I don’t know if getting beat up by Anderson is such a good thing for that narrative. I don’t think Randy will brought in to replace Vitor.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
I just plain don’t want to see one of my all time favorites butchered by Silva.
Keep firing Assholes!
I don't know what I'm talking aboot.
by Ubernoober on Feb 11, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
by grein on Feb 11, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
At first I thought Vitor was faking this because he’s ducking Anderson.
But then I realized it was much more likely that Anderson—put up to it by the nefarious Ed Soares, no doubt—hired a mole to infiltrate Vitor’s camp and injure him. Because he’s ducking him, you see.
This much is certain: somebody is ducking somebody.
by JRN on Feb 11, 2010 6:53 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
gold jerry!
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Paulo Filho? I know 2 years ago he said he would never fight him because they are teammates but with his track record of his mind going in and out of whack you never know he might up to fight him now.
I would be shocked if Sonnen turns down this fight. And if he wins – best underdog streak of all time.
I hope Chael gets his shot. He has earned it.
Keep firing Assholes!
I don't know what I'm talking aboot.
Miller, Okami, Nate.
Who else would you have him beat to earn a shot?
Keep firing Assholes!
I don't know what I'm talking aboot.
by Ubernoober on Feb 11, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chael hasn’t beaten Rickson. Clearly, he’s unworthy.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Feb 12, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I kind of agree with you. It looks like everything just coming together perfectly for Chael right now, but IMO he’d be stupid to take the fight in Abu Dhabi. If they’re willing to push it back a month or two, then it becomes more reasonable.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 11, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
They have one title fight with BJ/Frankie in Abu Dhabi. Give Andy/Chael to 113 or 114.
Keep firing Assholes!
I don't know what I'm talking aboot.
Yes. I know they want a HUGE!!!! card for their first one in Abu Dhabi, but it doesn’t have to have two title fights. Can’t we put together some kind of grappler superfight instead? Maia/Okami or something along those lines. I realize that’s not a perfect or feasible example, but I’d think fans in Abu Dhabi would appreciate a good skill matchup as much as a title fight.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 11, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Sonnen is not ready then…. NATE get’s the title shot. He’s the second best option and most fans still want to see that fight.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions
If Chael wisely decides to pass, I’d be fine with Nate getting a shot. Chael didn’t hurt him much, and Andy isn’t going to work smothering takedowns and top control on him. Plus, Nate would have to take the fight, otherwise he’s unlikely to ever get this chance again.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 11, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think Nate is more a lock than people realize.
1. Sonnen.
2. Nate
UFC wants to make a big splash in the middle east. Anderson will stay on the card and we’ll get either of those guys. Maybe a LHW but Anderson will stay on UFC 112.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’d prefer they move Anderson off the card, as Chael has earned the right in my opinion. But if they’re dead set on Anderson fighting there, I’d still be alright with Nate getting a shot anyway.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 11, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Silva/Couture was gonna happen anyway, probably as Randy’s retirement fight I always figured. Now we’ll probably be getting it sooner.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
If Randy fights Silva he will retire afterwards, willingly or not.
Keep firing Assholes!
I don't know what I'm talking aboot.
I think you’re right. He has only two fights left on his contract.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why god, why?
You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP
by pud333 on Feb 11, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Good thing.... We're 2 months out.
The UFC has time to correct this and the fighter who gets the call gets time for a good camp.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 7:51 PM EST reply actions
If chael fights...
and loses, I’m sure he will say “I wasn’t fully recovered from my last fight. I could beat him if I were 100% and he knows it!”
Randy vs Anderson would be awesome. Anderson would then have brutal victories over FranklinX2, Forrest, and Randy. He would need to change his nickname to The Hype Smasher.
Diaz
Sign Diaz away from Strikeforce and feed him to Anderson. He wants his shot, give it too him. He is a Strikeforce Champ. No more crazy then most the suggestions I have read.
by MusicCityBeatdown on Feb 11, 2010 7:59 PM EST reply actions
I guess that BJ Penn vs Frankie Edgar will be the main event
There is the possibility of Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva for the Middleweight Title , and at 205, it seems the best option that is available is Randy Couture.
Does anyone know the contract implications involved? Probably not, but I thought I would ask.
I’m wondering if suddenly Ed Soares holds all the power in this situation. They don’t have to accept Sonnen as a replacement. And why would they? He’s virtually unknown. I think Ed is going to hold out for Couture, or another big PPV seller.
Nope, Ed is
over in fanposts arguing with every as we speak. He won’t even notice til a week out.
The best options: Sonnen or Bisping
First, Dana needs to pull the old oky-doke like he did with Rashad-Machida and Mir-Lesnar. Remember, Mir-Lesnar was set for UFC 98 and Evans and Machida were to headline 100. Mir got hurt so they switched it.
Someone up top said they should switch Shogun-Machida with Silva. That would be the best thing to do. a) it would allow Sonnen to heal and train properly and b) if he couldn’t go it gives time for plan b should Michael Bisping defeat Wanderlei Silva – not an easy task, but can be done.
Bring Machida-Shogun to Abu Dhabi and send Anderson to Montreal to fight either a fully healed Sonnen or a Bisping coming off victories over Kang and Silva. Sonnen is selling himself quite well and Bisping is a known commodity who would have two good wins. Besides, I think there are enough Bisping haters out there who would pay to see Anderson tear him limb from limb.
I don't want them to push back another Anderson fight
Its been too long since we’ve seen him fight as it is. I say scrap the Vera/Jones fight and throw Vera against him at 205.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
ya scrap another main event for a card only about a month away
Makes perfect sense to me…
what?
Well, for a free card, there are several fights on that card that could headline. I don’t need to see Vera Jones at all.
The man known simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
What? Vera vs. Jones is a great fight.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah its a fantastic matchup. vera will either have to put up or shutup, or bones will live up to the hype. i personally think vera has the experience and will take it. If he doesn’t i love me some jon jones so seeing this matchup free is amazing. both are so skilled in all phases
by Austin Martin on Feb 11, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
That would be two straight LHW fights.
Anderson needs to defend his title. Brandon Vera vs Anderson Silva wouldn’t sell anything. I’d rather see Bones and Vera and just wait on Vitor, or let Chael fight next, even if we have to wait until 13 or 14.
Since Roling isn't going to say it
DOUG “THE RHINO” MARSHALL!
Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
by lowellthehammer on Feb 11, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions
Anderson Silvs vs. Anderson Silva
Just put a man sized mirror in the center. Ko for sure. It’s the only way to make it a fair fight.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions
Yeah two counterstrikers together. Good going, Steinburg.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Should I make a glass jaw comment here?
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Feb 12, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Reggie Warren Jr.
Reggie Warren would smash Anderson Silva.
Or…..is Lee Muary out of jail yet?
it’s gonna be chael or cote sadly.
I hope Hendo gets a front row seat and wears a strikeforce t-shirt
lol
I think TBA is booked for the next year or two with strikeforce.
TBA is Strikeforce's Couture.
He’s already in the Strikeforce Hall of Fame. He’s only getting better.
by snakecharmer1340 on Feb 11, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Chael is the clear choice to face Andy people act like 4 weeks isn’t alot of time but for a veteran like him it’s more than enough. This fight has tons of hype and will be a must see show, the UFC really lucked out that it happened with 2 months out because now they can push this card and make it as big as possible.
To Be Perfectly Honest
The best next fight for Anderson Silva is still Vitor, whenever he heals up. Chael would be nice, but he’s out of commission, and Nate kinda shot himself in the foot by being on his back for 13mins the last time he was in the octagon. The next best idea after Vitor would be Sexiyama, I guess.
Winner of...
Bisping/Wand? Shit if I know.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
If Chael isn’t around to take the fight, then theres not really anyone else in line. Giving Marquardt the rematch is just silly, and Wand/Bisping are at least marketable opponents.
It just sucks that Vitor is injured.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Feb 12, 2010 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why
I didn’t think about that. I bet the UFC is hoping for one of those two to get a quick KO without taking any damage.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Chael would be good. He’s in shape, already has a game plan (face in the chest), doesn’t need to train striking, his only skill (wrestling) is good enough without a training camp.
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