My Case for Mike Swick Returning to Middleweight
By Brian Hemminger
Mike "Quick" Swick has been a part of the UFC ever since he premiered on season 1 of The Ultimate Fighter as an undersized light heavyweight. He earned his nickname by finishing his first 4 UFC fights in 5:20 combined. The Swick hype train was halted when he ran into Yushin Okami, who controlled Swick with his wrestling to earn a decision victory at UFC 69. During the fight, Swick repeatedly told his corner "He's too big, he's too strong" and the loss prompted his decision to move to welterweight.
In Swick's welterweight bout for number one contender status, he didn't have an answer for a hungrier and more powerful Dan Hardy. One loss isn't a huge deal, but in Swick's next fight, another loss to rising welterweight Paulo Thiago (this time by stoppage), it was pretty apparent to me that it was time to Swick to move back up in weight. Here is my proposal for Mike Swick returning to the middleweight class.
Before his fight with Paulo Thiago at UFC 109, Swick posted a youtube video about his weight cuts among other things that take place leading up to his fights. In it, Swick looked pretty emaciated as he sweat out those last 7 pounds to make weight. Swick has looked noticeably thinner since he moved down to welterweight, take a look for yourself.
Swick at 170 Swick at 185
Mike Swick may have been a little small for a middleweight, but look at him at 185, he didn't have a lot of fat to lose. What he ended up doing was dropping muscle mass to make welterweight. I am not a fan of this at all. If you look at some of the biggest and strongest welterweights like Thiago Alves and Anthony Johnson, they have considerably more muscle and walk around at a much higher weight than Swick. How do they make weight then? Muscles contain a lot more water, which can be dropped quickly and replenished just as quickly (although Johnson has been having trouble lately as well). With Swick dropping muscle to make welterweight, he lost some of his power and also made it tougher for him to actually make the weight. He's not dropping as much water mass as he is depriving his body of the fluids he needs to function.
Here are a few other reasons for Swick to return to middleweight:
Speed Advantage: Swick's biggest strength was his speed at middleweight. He could dance around most opponents and pepper them with overhand punches or strong kicks while avoiding taking a lot of damage. Even in the Okami fight, Swick came as close as anyone has ever come to finishing Okami in the UFC, as Yushin was literally saved by the bell at the end of the second round. Down at welterweight, Swick is just as fast as everyone else. As evidenced by his last fight, Swick can't get away with those looping punches that AKA has become famous for. Welterweights with superior technical striking are making him pay. Also, instead of being physically more imposing, his muscle deprived body does not give him a strength advantage at welterweight to make up for the speed equilibrium.
Get the Power Back: If you haven't noticed, Swick has not been nearly as imposing in the cage lately as he used to be. As a middleweight, Swick was 4-1 in the UFC with 3 first round stoppage victories and two decisions. As a welterweight, Swick is 4-2 with only 1 first round stoppage victory and has been involved in 3 decisions. Also, that lone first round stoppage loses a bit of credibility when you consider that Jonathon Goulet was also stopped in 5 seconds by Duane "Bang" Ludwig at UFC Fight Night 3. Swick simply does not have the finishing power that he once had as a middleweight.
No AKA Teammates: We've heard it over and over again about the AKA trio at welterweight for the UFC and how they won't fight each other. What about middleweight? Nothing. The only significant middleweight training at the American Kickboxing Academy is Cung Le, and he's a little preoccupied with making movies and fighting in Strikeforce for that to ever be a problem. Swick would be free to fight whoever he wanted and would never have to worry about camp politics.
Less Crowded Division: The UFC welterweight division might have just become their most talent heavy. Besides Georges St. Pierre at the top, there are at just too many welterweights who are ahead of Swick at this moment in time. Jon Fitch, Thiago Alves, Josh Koscheck, Paul Daley, Matt Hardy, Paulo Thiago, Matt Serra and Matt Brown to name a few. The middleweight division (while very entertaining) does not have the same level of elite talent as its welterweight counterpart. At the moment, there's only Marquardt, Sonnen, Belfort, Okami and maybe Bisping ahead of Swick if he were to return to middleweight. He could be tossed right in the mix immediately against a plethora of middle of the pack guys to see if he can hang, and that would certainly be a lot better than the gatekeeper status he's earned at welterweight.
He's Got the Time: With the recent announcement of a 6 month medical suspension due to an elbow injury, Swick has more than enough time to get involved with some top level strength trainers and start packing on muscle again. He's also only 30 years old, and he could easily squeeze out several more years of elite competition in the UFC.
I firmly believe in the mantra: Just because you can do somehing, doesn't mean you should. Mike Swick was given a choice after his loss to Yushin Okami at UFC 69. He could drop down to welterweight and potentially lose most of his advantages that he held over middleweights. That, or he could work with a strength and conditioning coach to help him pack on some muscle and become just as strong as his opponents without losing that quickness he had become famous for. He ended up moving down to welterweight, it's high time he made the correct decision.
I'd love to hear your opinion on the matter.
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During his fight the other night I made a comment about how skinny he looked. There seems to be a lot of talk about people moving back up in weight lately and I am all for it. While there are some fighters that have been successful in dropping down, it seems to be more of a case where they were dropping down to their more natural weight (mostly revolving around their involvement on TUF in the UFC) . Swick looks like he is a skeleton walking around…. I’d like to think that it would make a good case for day of fight weigh ins.
by davidhamilton83 on Feb 11, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions
I think you’re right in that there’s a regression to the mean a bit on weight. I think that when PRIDE collapsed and a lot of the former-Japanese fighters struggled in North America with often-visibly larger opponent, weight cutting became the “thing”. But it simply doesn’t play into everyone’s strengths. In Swick’s case, I think he should go train in Hilo with BJ and Marv. Marv seems to have done a ridiculously good job with BJ’s muscle to weight ratio…
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Man…. a lot of people could benefit from that. But, I wonder how much genetics and much needed dedication to training helped BJ
by davidhamilton83 on Feb 11, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Division
Welterweight division is too stacked. He should definitely go back to middleweight. Or stay at welterweight and add alot of muscle. He has looked super weak since moving down to welterweight. Same thing with Michael Bisping. They both look bird chest weak.
exactly
Diego Sanchez and Nate Diaz are a couple examples of fighters moving up recently, although I’m not sure why anyone would want to move UP to welterweight right now.
by Brian Hemminger on Feb 11, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions
Swick is not small for 185
Dude was once a 205er.
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not really
He was a middleweight his whole career, but Ultimate Fighter season 1 didn’t have a middleweight division so he moved up to light heavyweight. If you watched the show, he joked around at the weigh-in for his TUF fight by bringing some extra weight so he would be closer to 205.
by Brian Hemminger on Feb 11, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yes really
He was not a small middleweight. If he was, why wouldn’t he have gone down on TUF season one? He was a 205er (yeah, on the show— doesn’t that count in real life?) and had decent size and good power at 185. You’re the first person I’ve ever seen characterize him as a smallish 185.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
He wanted to be at middleweight on the show. When Nate Quarry dropped out, Swick was trying to proposition Dana White to make it a twist that he’d go down to middleweight.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
TUF1 was MW and LHW. Not to nitpick, but that was his way of getting on the show. Same with how Kenny went up 2 weightclasses to 185.
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
my bad, it was middleweight and light heavy, brain fart.
by Brian Hemminger on Feb 11, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
No worries. He wasn’t able to get on as a MW.
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by Matthew Roth on Feb 11, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
He is small for ’85. He was a 205er on TUF, but he only weighed in at 193, like Hemmi said. But, there WAS a middleweight division on TUF 1 (Florian, Sanchez, etc were all at 185 on the show). All the 185 spots were full though, so he took the last 205 spot.
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Sigh
Do you need photographic evidence or something? He’s fucking sickly looking and has a major loss of power at 170 because he has to practically starve himself.
Look— Okami vs Swick. Does he look small to you??
http://video.ufc.tv/Photos/ufc_69photos/ufc69_6_okami_vs_swick_001.jpg
And I don’t really care if he said it— of course he would, he dropped. I have perfect vision.
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Your “perfect vision” can’t make him 205+ pounds . That’s a big MW. He’s talked over and over about barely having to cut (less than 5 pounds) to make weight against Okami. Sorry Blackout, nornally I agree with you on pretty much everything, but you’re wrong here. I don’t care how he’s proportioned. He doesn’t weigh nearly as much as most middleweights. Hence, he’s small. I don’t see how you can argue this.
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by Tim Burke on Feb 11, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He doesn't look small next to Okami in that particular photo, but...
he got tossed around like a midget that fight, and the size advantage was the difference that caused him to lose.
This is what I was thinking too. He looked way too skinny at 170. I think if he could pack on some muscle mass and go back to 185 he could be a threat. I don’t think he can compete for a title in either weight class, but I think there are more interesting fights at 185.
thats a great point that I forgot to make….. at some point he might need to think about the fact that he just might not be a champion. there is nothing wrong with that fact…. he can still be successful…. it just may not be in the cards for him. At least not in the UFC.
by davidhamilton83 on Feb 11, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s my case:
Swick needs a SANDWICH. ASAP.
But you’re right. He just needs to add the right kind of weight, improve his conditioning in a different way. Instead of directing everything to cutting the weight, add as much muscle as he can without losing the speed advantage and he’s in pretty good shape.
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it could be said that nobody fits perfectly at a weight class. this concept seems to only be brought up about guys who simply are very good, but just not truly elite. maybe it’s just that the top guys in both weight classes are just better than him
riddle me this: if weight classes were set up 7Lbs lower and there was a 178lb weight class, would Mike Swick be able to acheive a higher ranking than he currently is able to in either 170 or 185? My answer is no. If there was a 178 class, it would be comprised of the current “large” WWs and the “small” MWs, which results in a similar number of guys in that class who are simply better than Mike Swick as are in the current WW and MW classes
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not at all, just that whatever skills the top guys in each division have are better than the skills Swick has. There are no assumptions needed for my little hypothetical, its a very simple numbers game
Goldie: "Michael Jordan-esque in his grappling skills is Travis Lutter."
Rogan: "No, no he's not. No."
This is exactly what I was thinking
The only guy he’s stopped @ WW is Jon Goulet, who has a notorious glass chin.
But Swick’s physique isn’t his only problem- he has some serious fundamental problems with his striking that need to be fixed. For starters, he doesn’t control distance well (the jab is almost non- existent with Swick), he throws very wild with his chin in the air (what got him in trouble against Hardy & Paulo), and he tends to get a bit stiff.
But yes, he should go back to 185. 6’1 is still above average height for a MW, and like you said- if he got a good S&P coach to really help him pack on some muscle, and got to around 200-205 range, then he’d be fine.
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no
He stopped Ben Saunders in the second round via TKO, I just mentioned that he only stopped one guy in the first round since he moved to WW.
by Brian Hemminger on Feb 11, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, good point
It’s easy to forget about that Saunders fight after how well Ben rebounded against Davis.
But still, the thing about Swick is that he is endowed with good speed & power, naturally. But he has holes in his game. Put a schmoe in front of him, and he does his thing; put him in there with someone elite- like an Okami, like a Paulo Thiago, like a Dan Hardy, and he comes up short.
He has more to work on than just his physique is what i’m trying to say.
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 11, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
It’s certainly not just physique, but, his strikes are very fast compared to most middleweights. I watched almost all his middleweight and welterweight fights in preparation for this article and Swick doesn’t have very technical boxing. He gets away with looping punches at middleweight because he’s so much faster than his opponents. That doesn’t work at welterweight because he doesn’t have that same speed advantage.
If he were to work with a boxing coach for and really put in the effort to improve his striking on a technical level, he’d be that much better.
by Brian Hemminger on Feb 12, 2010 6:29 AM EST up reply actions
Boxing coach is exactly what the doc ordered
Because honestly, if the guy could learn how to box correctly, then maybe he wouldn’t even have to move back up to MW (although I do think it would benefit him)
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by ElliotMatheny on Feb 12, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
thanks
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by Brian Hemminger on Feb 12, 2010 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
Totally Agree
His only above average trait was his speed (his power came from his punches in bunches and his Swickatine) and he’s not faster than a typical welterweight.
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Feb 13, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions
If they've already got his brother, when does the UFC bring Jeff Hardy into the fold??
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