Felony Conviction for Killer of TapouT's Charles 'Mask' Lewis
by Nate Wilcox on Dec 8, 2010 8:19 PM EST
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Jeffrey David Kirby, 53, has been found guilty of one felony count of vehicular manslaughter for causing the accident that killed TapouT founder Charles 'Mask' Lewis.
Press Release from the Orange County, CA District Attorney's office follows:
December 8, 2010
SECOND-TIME DRUNKEN DRIVER CONVICTED OF KILLING ANOTHER MOTORIST BY SPLITTING VICTIM'S VEHICLE IN HALF IN HIGH SPEED CRASH
SANTA ANA - A second-time drunken was convicted today of killing a man and injuring his passenger after crashing his Porsche into the victim's Ferrari, causing it to slam into a light pole and spilt in half. Jeffrey David Kirby, 53, Costa Mesa, was found guilty by a jury of one felony count of vehicular manslaughter by unlawful act with gross negligence while intoxicated and a sentencing enhancement for causing great bodily injury was found true. He has a prior conviction for driving under the influence in 2002. Kirby faces a maximum sentence of 13 years in state prison at his sentencing Feb. 4, 2011, at 9:00 a.m. in Department C-30, Central Justice Center, Santa Ana.
At approximately 1:00 a.m. on March 11, 2009, Kirby was speeding in his 1977 Porsche with a 32-year-old female passenger, Lynn Marie Nabozny, alongside a 2004 Ferrari driven by 45-year-old Charles David Lewis, Jr., on Jamboree Road in Newport Beach. Kirby lost control of his car due to his unsafe speed and crashed into Lewis' vehicle. Lewis lost control of his Ferrari, which crashed into a cement light pole and was torn in half. Kirby swerved and came to a stop on Jamboree Road for several seconds before accelerating and leaving the scene.
A Newport Beach Police officer, who had been passing northbound on Jamboree, observed the crash and immediately stopped to assist Lewis and called for back up. Lewis was trapped inside the front half of the Ferrari, which had to be dismantled in order to remove him. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Lewis' 23-year-old passenger, Lacy Lynn White, was ejected from the car and landed on the nearby dirt embankment. White was transported to Western Medical Center to be treated for several bone fractures, lacerations and abrasions.
After leaving the scene, Kirby parked his Porsche, which had body damage consistent with having been involved in a crash, on Bison Avenue. Within minutes of the crash, a responding Newport Beach Police officer observed Kirby's parked car and saw the defendant and Nabozny walking outside of the defendant's vehicle. Kirby and Nabozny were both apprehended. When contacted by officers, the defendant was emitting an odor of alcohol, slurring his speech, and had bloodshot and watery eyes. He was arrested at the scene.
At approximately 3:00 a.m., two hours after the crash, Kirby had a blood alcohol level of .13 percent. Nabozny was arrested for public intoxication and later released.
Deputy District Attorney Jason Baez of the Vehicular Homicide Unit is prosecuting this case.
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good this guy’s been convicted
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Mask decided to race! HE decided to drive over 100mph, that's crazy!
You do that, you risk your own life. What the other guy did was wrong, people should NEVER drive drunk, but it takes two to tango and that’s a fact! RIP
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by MBOW on Dec 9, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
RIP Mask
drunk drivers cause so much carnage. awful.
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by Nate Wilcox on Dec 8, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
i'm really surprised Hawaii has the highest rate
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Natives, bro.
Indigenous people got the raw end of a shady deal in the south pacific, among other places.
what does that have to do with drunk driving and accidents?
I mean, I agree Hawaiians got a shady deal, but……wtf are you talking about? The schooling here is terrible, most parents are young party animals that come from parents that are young party animals and that spreads to their kids. Most people here drink way too much and way too often. I would relate it to education before I related it to the overthrow of the hawaiian kingdom….you big silly.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's part of the "raw end"
Bad schools make bad education make certain lifestyles
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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 8, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i would say
Utah for the win…..but everyone knows that place is a fail.
Call me crazy but....
I guess I’m kind of hesitant to attribute the percentage of alcohol related accidents in Hawaii in 2010 to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1893.
People have been riding that wave here for a long time (like 117 years) and they do it for literally every single issue that comes up.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bruh, trust me
Look at the Native Americans. Don’t you find it funny that two indigenous people ended up having a high percentage of alcoholics? I mean not funny, but “funny”.
I gotta assume some things about you that would explain your position.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 8, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude it's really lame what you're implying with your last sentence. Not sure why you had to take it there.
I explained my position more thoroughly below. The Native Americans were wiped out in mass quantities over many many years. 94.3% of Hawaiians WANTED to be a part of America AFTER the overthrow. That’s why it’s not fair to compare it to the Native Americans. My position isn’t fuckin rocket science, it’s not racist. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
I gotta assume some things about you that would explain your position.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 9, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
And also, do you even know how many actual native Hawaiians are here?
Have you ever even been here? It’s primarily white people and Japanese. My wife is a Maui Police Officer (and local, thank you very much) and she says almost all of her DUIs are hippy white people.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 9, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
To clarify a little
Indigenous people in America have a long history of alcoholism, hard drug use, depression, suicide and a whole laundry list of poverty related illness.
If you don’t think the destruction of a culture and a way of life impacts the surviving populations ability to move forward, I don’t know what to tell you.
No I get it. I just disagree for the most part. No biggie.
The overthrow of Hawaii was not like the extermination of the Native Americans. It was mostly with support. Research the percentage of Hawaiians that voted for statehood.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
From what I've read
Just like other places, the white folks married into the royal families.
The royal families made a bunch a shady deals that screwed the majority of people who had no say at all.
The overthrow was shady without question.
The support by Hawaiians for being part of America, however, was huge.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
which is why I don't think it's fair to compare with the Native Americans...
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by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
There was over 2000 different cultural groups in NA at one point.
A lot of Native people assimilated themselves in different ways. The ones we think of are the last surviving nations that got exterminated in the early 1900’s.
If by assimilated
you mean massacred by the army and buried in mass graves, then, yeah, the Natives here did assimilate.
Could be because they got screwed over. Could be that living in most of Hawaii is like living in a really small town, and all the fun stuff to do works well with booze. Also possible, since they are only a few percent higher than pretty much everywhere else, that it’s just a statistical anomaly.
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Hawaii....
Maybe a month ago someone was arguing that the crime and poverty in Hawaii was exaggerated..
I guess Mormons dont really drink and drive much.
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Drinking alone causes so much destruction. Terrible, terrible drug. More restrictions need to be implemented. Much harsher punishment as well.
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Yes, drinking alone
Oh yea, and cigarettes, crack cocaine, unhealthy foods, religious violence, ethnic genocide, and any other slew things.
Wanna hate on drunk drivers killing people, go ahead. Slam the oldest form of chemical escape from everyday life, used responsibly by the vast majority of people, with hyperbolic and irresponsible statements, and you’ll get called on it.
Slam the oldest form of chemical escape
Now that’s just untrue.
People were using cannabis and opiates long before anyone figured out how to ferment alcohol. The human brain actually has receptors for opiates and cannabis. Alcohol only induces an oxygen deprived stupor. Which I enjoy.
Fair enough
…Civilization’s oldest form? lol, It has long been speculated that beer was a key foothole in the formation of the Egyptian society.
Either way, I think my sentiment is received.
During the Roman Empire....
even with their extensive aqueduct system, wine was regularly consumed, though cut with water, as it was safer to drink than straight water.
In a similar fashion, during the middle ages, beer was the only safe drink, as most water was contaminated and there was no modern concept of disease.
Though the alcohol consumed then was much different than now.
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by UMBC Oriole fan on Dec 8, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Same reasoning
In the year 3000 BC, the Nile was already supporting nations of millions. The water was super polluted.
Funny story...
at least to me… I was deployed on a carrier and we ended up hitting Turkey. I was doing a tour with a bunch of people on the ship, seeing the old Roman ruins. We end up in the ruins of this bathhouse and pretty much me and the other mechanics were just staring at the ground in awe at their plumbing system. They had their system laid out better than our engine room. Its kind of mind boggling these people had indoor plumbing back then.
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by UMBC Oriole fan on Dec 8, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
You wouldnt hapen to drink by any chance would you?
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I enjoy a nice Pabst Blue Ribbon after a 12 hour workday, or a little Wild Turkey to warm my bones when the Wisconsin months turn cold.
I just detest hyperbole used for personal crusades of damnation.
manslaughter ≠ murder
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I know what you're saying.
And I’m just saying that handling a car going 100+ mph at night while racing another car going 100+ mph depends heavily on the skill of the driver.
It doesn't matter what Mask was doing...
Even if he was speeding, the other driver was committing a crime. The actions of your victim does not necessarily mitigate the punishment. Sort of in the same vein, someone gets robbed and beaten walking out of a bar, just case the victim was drunk, does not limit the culpability of the criminal. This always sends me off the deep end when you see a rape victim get trashed (she was drunk, she’s a slut)…it doesn’t matter if the crime actually occurred.
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by UMBC Oriole fan on Dec 8, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Racing is a crime BTW
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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 8, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's not really like a mugging
It’s more like he chose to be in a fistfight and the other dude pulled out a knife. Mask was a willing participant in a 100+ mph street race with a stranger that he had no reason to trust.
He didn’t “deserve” to die, and it’s awful that a drunk driver killed him, and that drunk driver deserves his prison sentence and even after he’s out he should never be behind the wheel again…but “don’t drive drunk” isn’t the only lesson we can all learn from this horrible event.
by Tedd Welch on Dec 8, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah i am sorry He died. He changed alot of fighters lives through sponsorship and more.
but you cant race on the street and not expect bad shit to happen eventually. Thats why there are race tracks.
Tedd’s analogy is very fitting.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 8, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Then why is he dead and why wasn’t he sober enough not to start racing the other guy in the firts place?
It’s ok the guy got busted but Mask caused his own death by stupidly engaging in a vehicular pissing contest in the first place.
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I think that was a myth perpetuated by Kirby's defense lawyers
And wasn’t backed up by any kind of evidence (tyre marks, particle scattering etc)
His car was cut in half by a light pole. Enough evidence for me.
That doesn’t happen to cars going the speed limit.
Not to mention he was along side a speeding car
Hard to be along side a speeding care for too long unless you, yourself, are speeding.
yeah i agree with you on that, but once you blow into that machine and it shows up you have been drinking…well…thats a rap son
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yeah kind of like if you rear end somebody, you are screwed. It is your fault no mater what. Which is kinda crazy to me becuase I have been behind some jackasses
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not to say you always have a choice, but
if they’re a jackass, stay further back.
Use more judges.
Yeah they were racing IIRC
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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 8, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
The girl who was the passenger in the drunk driver’s vehicle said they weren’t racing, FWIW.
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Two racing card driving 100 mph plus next to each other?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 9, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Those are the breaks when you make bad choices
by Steven Abbott on Dec 8, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Nah I think he was just saying that maybe would should stop treating Lewis as some great person just because he’s dead and had something to do with MMA. In the end, he’s just some guy that decided it was a good idea to race at over 100 mph on a road that was likely no more than a 55 mph road, and he paid the price for it. The other guy may have been drunk, but he would have just been a drunk driver passing him had Lewis not let his ego get in the way. Both got the justice they earned.
by Steven Abbott on Dec 9, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Both got the justice they earned.
And now, so did you.
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by Chris Barton on Dec 9, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what rule did he break? just curious....
cuz shit is a lot nastier over at Mania…
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on Dec 9, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
did you really need to add that?
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by Austin Martin on Dec 8, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't. But the only reason we REALLY care is because he was involved with MMA.
If this were two other guys, besides the “sorry for the dead” sentiment (if there was even that), most would point out that they both were racing.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 8, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sad that somebody had to die in this accident, incident, whatever you want to label it.
I hope they throw the book at this guy, when you are 53 and still haven’t grown a brain, you should get the maximum term and can rot in prison.
Which is the "still hasn't grown a brain part"?
Driving while intoxicated?
Or racing at 100+ mph at night?
A Porsche at 120 mph on a straight road is probably about as challenging as driving a Camry at 80. Mask chose his opponent poorly, but if they had been sober I don’t think they were really in any serious danger.
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It’s not particularly hard to keep a car going in a straight line. Especially with a car of that caliber, 120 mph in a straight line is easy.
If you look up Jamboree Road (where the accident happened), it’s a nice pretty straight road with nearly a mile between intersections. With no traffic it’s nearly a racetrack. You could have a lot of fun out there without putting any third parties in any danger. Unfortunately Mask met up with a drunken asshole who got him killed. Was it dangerous? Yes. On the same level as driving drunk? No.
I mean, if you are thinking that two guys in Porsches just happened to meet up at 2 am and decide to race out of the blue, you are probably wrong. They went there to find somebody to race.
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First of all, I looked at Jamboree Rd., and that road has some nice bends in it. You’re assuming they were racing in a straight line. A slight bend going 120 mph is a tough task for an inexperienced driver.
Second, I refuse to believe that you can turn city streets into race tracks without putting any third parties in any danger. Impossible. There are too many variables.
And you lost me with the two Porches searching for people to race bit. Are you saying that the driver of the Porche was just driving around looking for people to race? I think it’s fairly reasonable to conclude that two guys with badass cars randomly pulled up alongside of one another and decided to see who had the fastest car. Especially in Santa Ana, where exotic cars are commonplace.
I’m not a member of the California Porsche Owners Club so I don’t know if its an unofficial drag strip, if they weren’t both cruising for a little race action, I have to wonder wtf they were doing driving around a suburb at 2 am in super cars.
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Really?
You think a Ferrari and a Porche pulling up new to each other past midnight is a rare occurrence in Orange County?
That’s weird man. Every time you’re out late and see two sports cars pull up next to each other you think they met up to race each other?
Good
I hate drunk drivers and I hate that they always survive yet always manage to kill someone else.
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Well if everyone would just drive drunk......
by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Am i the only one?
but when I was in high school and stupid enouogh to drink and drive. I drove hella slow and was on the wheel like a grandma. I was paranoid as shit that I would wreck
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Dude a couple of Saporros and I am done
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Word!
An ex girlfriend turned me on to them and I have never drank another brand since then. They are very good.
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Couldn't help but notice your sig
I’ve just been published with two small press mags, working on getting a book through by traditional means.
Cool to see someone blazing the self published trail. I personally think it’s the future, but not quite there yet, and not for me, as of yet. But I will definitely check out your work, if for no other reason than my belief that I wouldn’t notice something in such a direct manner if I wasn’t meant to pursue it further, haha!
How’s that path working out for you? Self publishing, I mean.
Thanks.
The publishing game is kind of a double edged sword. You have to have some kind of publishing history for someone to even look at your work, but you cant get the history unless you get published, its like wtf!
But I agree, self publishing is the future, although the big downside is you have no marketing whatsoever. So it is up to you to make it a success. Which is crazy hard. The traditional publishers are missing out on a lot of great books I’m sure.
You know the old motto “Fake it until you make it.” That’s all I am doing lol
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Yeah I had a friend who was an alcoholic. He flipped like 5 cars and never got hurt. His passenger died once. I think its becuase they dont know whats going on and they dont tense up or something, but they never get hurt.
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Typically....
in car crashes, the intoxicated person will be fully relaxed (and typically oblivious) where as someone who is sober will instinctively tense up, which tends to cause more injuries statistically. Now of course, at high speeds, its pretty much a moot point but there is some data that supports the notion that drunk drivers seem to fair better than their victims.
I nearly lost my father to a girl who was drunk. We were both in the same class at high school. I ended up skipping my graduation and pretty much every event at the school as I could not be in the same room with her as she ended up with probation before judgment. She put him in a coma for three fucking days…and the school gave ME shit for changing classes midway through the semester. Not a scratch on her after the accident…and she went on to be homecoming queen…and get two more DUI’s by the time she turned 21.
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by UMBC Oriole fan on Dec 8, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
wow.
Thats a horrible story, sorry that happened. I really think that after one DUI they should revoke your license. That shit kills way too many innocent people. High school kids don’t realize the long term damage they can do, at that age you think you are invincible.
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This is the first I have heard about a passenger. Did she have any severe injuries?
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It's in the article my dear friend.
Lacerations and such. Went to the hospital.
by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
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by Brandon Starr on Dec 8, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve all made mistakes and Mask made one that night. Unfortunately he paid the ultimate price, while the drunk will be out in a few years. The saddest part is, the guy was a repeat offender. Our system is set up to let people off relatively lightly and I am of the opinion that if it was initially harder on them, they would be less likely to repeat.
Who is throwing stones? He was racing with the guy and easily could have just blown the guy off. I don’t blame him, but he could have avoided the whole situation.
If you don’t like that or agree with it, fine.
No need to get defensive.
I was talking about the multiple DUI situation. This is the guy’s second DUI and he’s instantly labeled a drunk/menace to society. What if he got his first when he was 18? You don’t know anything about this guy.
I’m just saying it’s wrong to judge someone based on a five paragraph news article.
This is the guy’s second DUI and he’s instantly labeled a drunk/menace to society.
Because he killed somebody and severely injured 2 others. You can chuck boulders at the fuck for all I care.
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Fair enough.
In situations where the drunk driver is the sole party to blame, I’m chucking boulders too. But in a situation like this, where both parties are putting their lives and the lives of their girlfriends at risk by racing each other at 120 mph, I blame both drivers.
Of course I feel for Mask’s friends and family and the passengers in the vehicles, but I can’t overlook the fact that he put himself and his girlfriend at risk by racing another car at such an excessive rate of speed.
I agree that Mask is partly responsible
but having lost friends and family to asshole drunken drivers, and having nearly been killed by one myself (by an 18 y/o 1st-time offender) I have zero sympathy for them. You get busted once, your license should be permanently revoked. There should be no repeat offenders.
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In his first DUI?
Look, some people learn, some people don’t. BJJDenver is being really shortsighted in thinking a steeper penalty will deter people. The price is already very high. Long driving probation, skyrocketing insurance, hefty fine, traffic school, etc.
What do you propose? Permanently ban 1.4 million drivers each year from ever driving again.
People don’t drive drunk because they think it’s no big deal if they get caught. They do it either because they don’t think they’ll get caught or because, well, they’re drunk and not thinking at all. Either way, steeper punishment won’t do jack for deterring people.
misunderstood, thought it was about Mask.
I was stupid and got a dwai when I was younger. As I did my classes and such, I realized that there were people there with 4, 5 or more convictions. This made as much impact on me as my own punishment, as I realized I was lucky and didn’t want to be like those people. I formed the opinion that I got off very lucky and so were these multi time offenders. I could easily see how someone in my position would have not learned a lesson and even though it would have meant more punishment for me, I am now of the opinion that we need to be harder on them right off the bat. Now, I may be wrong, but it is just what I have experienced.
There are racetracks and cabs for a reason.
If you’re going to race, do it on a track. If you’re going to drink, get a cab home. Very simple rules which will drastically improve your quality and length of life.
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by pdl on Dec 8, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I dont know about your state. but in Louisiana they actually have drive through mixed drink stores. They tape the hole for the straw shut as a deterent,lol so stupid
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I've seen those in Wisconsin but worse.
Pretty effing strong Long Islands to go, with saran wrap over the top. Some buddies swung through there on a road trip, fortunately the driver was responsible and abstained (until they arrived).
There’s also some of that in Los Angeles that I’ve heard of, but never have been to personally.
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by pdl on Dec 8, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
And he saves a bunch of money on his car insurance
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i bet he’s glad you speak so openly about it.
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by MMArazorback on Dec 8, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
If TheFilt doesn’t watch it, his dealer could be convicted based on hearsay of an anonymous person who didn’t actually mention any names. On the internet.
50% more Ultimate than the leading competitor.
by Dodectagon on Dec 9, 2010 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Nice.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 9, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I. P. addys dude!
I.P. numbahs!!!
Run it’s the DEA!!!
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Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
Used to live there
I’m pretty sure the covered straws are to prevent them from being open containers
I should have satyed out of Cain’s strawberry patch.
Mask was 45?!
He looked mad young. I guess black don’t crack.
I wear my BELIEVE TapouT proudly, same with my BELIEVE tat I got in memory of him. I plan on getting “R.I.P. Mask” soon.
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by Ryan Tical on Dec 8, 2010 9:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Are you saying Mask was black?
That would be pretty sweet, but I think he was just a strange white dude with a flashy sense of style. You never know though.
A drunk driver actually tore through my best friend’s yard this past weekend and hit the neighbor’s house so hard he knocked it off the foundation, forcing the family to relocate for 2 months while rebuidling. He blew a .23. Sadly, the guy driving was the DD.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 9, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions
he was the Daredevil?!
Satoshi Kon
R.I.P.
by Grappo on Dec 9, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
13 years for a first DUI?
So each year we should put 1.4M Americans in jail for 13 years? Great idea.
I like Piston Hyundai and I know he means well....
but I agree with you. I got a DUI when I was 21. I had never even had a parking ticket before that and I got all the mandatory minimums (3 days in jail because it was early on a Friday, license suspension, couple grand in fines, etc). I was playing pool at a bar to celebrate my new job and the next thing I know I wake up in jail. I had literally no idea what had happened in between; no clue. I haven’t had so much as a parking ticket since. The punishment is already pretty tough. The problem is alcoholism. When somebody gets a DUI that has a legit alcohol dependency issue, a harsher punishment isn’t going to deter them anymore. Well, I guess life would but that’s a little much….
by Brandon Starr on Dec 10, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Percentages....
Does anyone have the motivation to find out the actual number totals? If you have 4 accidents and 3 of them involve alcohol, that’s 75%…..just sayin’……
Never engage in a battle of wits with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
It's funny
how people will rationalize something just because someone was important to them. Yes, the drunk driver needs to be charged, but Lewis was also driving negligently and recklessly. I don’t care that he was in a 2004 Ferrari, which evidently makes it ok for some people, or that they were on nearly a straight road, or whatever. He was driving at twice the speed limit. Thats dangerous for the general public. As dangerous as drinking and driving that fast? Maybe not, but that doesn’t make it right.
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