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Demian Maia, speaking to MMA Junkie following the TUF 12 Finale, compliments Kendall Grove on his BJJ defense:

"I'm happy because I won, of course," Maia said. "I wanted to submit him in this fight, but Kendall was smart. At one point I was baiting him to go to the side when I was on his back because I wanted to switch to the arm-and-neck submission.

"He didn't go even though his corner was saying, 'Go to the side, go to the side. Escape your hips.' He was not escaping, and I was like, '[Expletive]!' After the fight, he said to me, 'You wanted me escape my hips to that side so you could switch to that submission.' I said, 'Yeah, you're smart.'"

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Very very interesting.

I guess there is a reason Grove is so hard to sub.

by truck on Dec 6, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

i must say

i was really impressed with grove’s jj defense
but again i was disappointed with grove’s striking

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by DK_Monster on Dec 6, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

Ditto!

Use your length. His footwork could be a problem.

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VEe is ANIMated!

by VeeisAnimated on Dec 6, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

he did rock Maia a few times, but he never followed up on it… I guess reasonably not wanting to dive into Maia’s guard.

Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.

by Stanlee on Dec 6, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i feel like every tall lanky fighter should be required to train at golden glory

especially stefan struve

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by milk72 on Dec 6, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I feel every tall fighter should f*ckin watch either Klitschko brother fight. Heck, look at Lennox Lewis old fights. Yeah, I know they’re boxers and they don’t have to worry about takedowns but how difficult is it to jab, jab, and move out of harm’s way?

F*ck! Michael Bisping got the memo.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 6, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Michael Bisping’s defense is terrible lol. He gets consistently smashed by hard shots every fight

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by ImmortalTechnique92 on Dec 6, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Grove does seem to have grown as a fighter but he was still overmatched and out worked in that fight. So much potential et so inconsistant.

by who me on Dec 6, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Add me to that sentiment.

I was very impressed with him on the ground defensively, but man I really didn’t expect it to be contested on the ground to that extent. I thought Grove could work his length at least some…

by Empty Thoughts on Dec 6, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Al Bundy and Chuck Norris was right.

Eventually you’re going to get to a point where the talent is so high, you’ll reach some sort of stalemate. The guys that lose out are the guys that can not afford high level bjj instruction or travel to better specialized trainers like Kenny Florian and GSP.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 6, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

and grove should stick around for one more

him vs court mcgee interests me

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by milk72 on Dec 6, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Something tells me that McGee would stop Grove in 2 rounds or the beginning of the 3rd.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 6, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

perfect then

then grove gets cut and mcgee gets a win over a name opponent

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by milk72 on Dec 6, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Grove picks mcgee apart.

by frosnt1 on Dec 6, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe

maybe not though

it’d be a good fight and one that makes sense

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by milk72 on Dec 6, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

word

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by the-gentle-way on Dec 6, 2010 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Grove is not a bad fighter

This is a hell of a compliment coming from Maia. It would be like explaining to Vadim how you renegotiated and him saying “you’re smart.”

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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 6, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Except this isn't out of Maia's character at all.

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by Neil Manich on Dec 6, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

After losing to Anderson Silva, Maia has followed-up with wins over tall fighters in Mario Miranda and Kendall Grove. It’s time for him to fight some top ten fighters, or “name” fighters like Bisping, or maybe Leben.
While fighters like Miranda, Miller, and Grove are now defending submissions from Maia, they are still getting taken down (at will) and getting controlled, which says a lot about Maia’s wrestling and top control.

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by chrisbboy82 on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

Kendall's a tougher match up than either of those two.

Chris is always an X factor but he got subbed my rolsholt and Bisbing got choked to sleep by wandy and literally saved by the bell. I like Maia’s odds in those fights.

"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."

"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."

by the-gentle-way on Dec 6, 2010 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bisping would be on his bycicle the whole fight

But I don’t think he has the power to rock Maia as he comes in and Maia should be able to get him to the mat each round, where he should be able to sub him.

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by Neil Manich on Dec 6, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The idea for a Bisping vs Maia fight is more for Maia fighting a Middleweight with some name value, and seeing Bisping’s placement on UFC cards, a Maia vs Bisping fight could be a co-main event if not a main event depending on the value of the card (Fight Night, free on SpikeTV UFC numbered card). I totally expect Maia to beat Bisping myself.

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by chrisbboy82 on Dec 6, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering what they were talking about post fight...

I think like many Hawaii fighters, he should leave Hawaii. Train with some top trainers again like his old days.

by A K I R A on Dec 6, 2010 1:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I love when Maia gives insight like this

I don’t have “baiting” anywhere in my game in jiu jitsu lol. I usually just do the standard “go for one thing and capitalize on the probable reaction”. Baiting seems like it requires a much deeper knowledge of jiu jitsu and I don’t even hear upper belts talking about it very often.

I sometimes get the feeling though that I’m being baited by a more senior guy. Like “oh it was a little too easy for me to recover half guard there, this feels fishy” and then I get a Mendes rolling back-take put on me.

by IpullguardIRL on Dec 6, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Marcelo Garcia talks about it often, although he doesn’t call it “baiting”.He lets people do some things so that he could examine certain moves, options. He says that if he has his opponent in a position without an exit it’s not interesting to him because he can’t see his opponents reactions, escapes and can’t study the game. Like advanced chess playing. Tricky little bastard puts you in his little laboratory and observes your reactions.

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by dancingChicken on Dec 6, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Lookit Maia's debut vs. Ed Herman

As someone noted, he “baited” Herman into attempting a guard pass which was intercepted by Maia’s (successful, fight-ending) triangle choke.

by Chortles on Dec 6, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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