Snapshot of the Day: Alistair Overeem vs. Todd Duffee Is Official
by Nick Thomas on Dec 29, 2010 9:52 AM EST
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Alistair Overeem - "I will wait and see what DREAM decides (about the DREAM heavyweight title). I think Todd is ready to put on a hard fight, and he has a great record so far, so a title fight is possible. I do know once I have the belt I will defend it. Anyone is welcome to come here and challenge me, and I will fight absolutely anyone to defend it."
Todd Duffee - "I’d like to clarify one thing. I asked my manager for this fight. I had heard that (DREAM) were having trouble finding an opponent, and that many people had turned down the fight. Every fight is a risk. It was a chance to fight a great opponent and to fight in Japan. I’m not here to have a padded record or anything; I just want to see what I can do. This was a good chance to do that against a great name."
Alistair "Demolition Man" Overeem (33-11)
Win Brett Rogers - TKO (Punches) Strikeforce
Win Kazuyuki Fujita - KO (Knee) K-1 - Dynamite
Win James Thompson - Submission (Guillotine Choke) Dream 12
Win Tony Sylvester - Submission (Guillotine Choke) UG 11
Todd Duffee (6-1)-- photo via allelbows.com
Loss Mike Russow - KO (Punch) UFC 114
Win Tim Hague - KO (Punches) UFC 102
Win Assuerio Silva - TKO (Punches) JF 11
Win Josh Bennett - KO (Punches) ANFC 2
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I mean lets be honest.....
The Mortal Combat video proves that Overeem will win in the end. lol
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 29, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I dont think Overeem is going to go down that easily...
Besides….collectively…Duffee has much stronger competition over the past 4 fights.
Also, K-1 is not relevant when compared to MMA.
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
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Ok, Todd.
I will.
UFC Win Finish % (Top 15 with 6 UFC wins): Belfort 100, Penn 92, Florian 91, Velasquez 86, Anderson 83, JDS 83, Mir 83, Franklin 77, Kongo 75, Leben 73, Hughes 72, Sotiropoulos 71, Alves 70, Couture 69, Marquardt 67, Lytle 67, Maia 63, Koscheck 62, Bisping 60, Rivera 57, Rampage 50, Kampmann 50, J. Miller 50, GSP 47, Sanchez 45, Okami 40, Evans 40, Forrest 38, Machida 38, Fitch 31, Sherk 25, Edgar 25, Maynard 13
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 29, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Holy Shit
I’ve got goose bumps
FEDOR is the best because of the way he wins and that he is not playing it safe that is why he is better than Silva or GSP
put the heating on?
"How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies" - Omar Little
by The Omaplatapus on Dec 29, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I think that has more to do with the camera angle
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I think it has more to do with the fact that Overeem is a fucking monster.
Hey UFC4 go fuck yourself, how about that? Fucking punk, I was just asking for the source that says lesnar gets 5 mill a fight, it’s obvious one does not exist. Bunch of gabronis on a site pulling figures out of your ass.
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by ufc4 on Dec 29, 2010 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Duffee is more of a beast...
I think it is a good fight…as far as skill wise…its a good matchup.
Suprised to see such an even match up in Japan.
Despite what ‘Certain People’ are saying…It should be a good fight.
Overeem would be stupide if he goes in there like his last 5-7 MMA fights.
Duffee is much more dangerous than CroCop.
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Overeem completely destroyed Cro Cop
On the feet and on the ground, prior to destroying his nuts and getting an NC…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
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by The American Ronin on Dec 30, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Todd “Duffman” Duffee
6 ft 3 in
252 lb
Alistair “The Reem, Mr Horsemeat” Overeem
6 ft 5 in
253lbs – 262 lb
Food goes in here
Todd "Duffman" Duffee
I guess TODDDUFFEEEEEEEE!!!!! disappeared?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Dec 29, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Overeem is not 2" taller than Duffee...
The Reem might be 6’4"
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Duffee is obviously further away from the camera than Reem.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 29, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
There's definitely no shortage of Beefcake in this picture.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Maybe we will get to see
a pose down at the weigh-in?
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Or a good old fashioned walk-off?
/zoolander reference
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
I came here to see TITS!!!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Dec 29, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The belt better be on the line so he can hang the 2 SF belts, the K-1 Belt and hopefully the DREAM belt on his wall.
Food goes in here
Even though I’m a big Reem fan, I do think it’s a bit off-putting how he keeps clamoring for the DREAM belt. I mean, they don’t even have a HW division except him and the occasional can. You’d think he’d want the belt to actually mean something, and not just acquire it from an obvious mismatch that was gifted to him.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 29, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Dude he’s a belt collector. Gotta get’em all!
Food goes in here
by Pandanus on Dec 29, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I can understand his side of that too. If he can get a nice shiny belt along with his win, why not? I guess I’d want him to not be so vocal about it in the media at least.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 29, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Meh they’re the ones asking him. Plus the Japanese will translate it as “HUNGRY OVEREEM MONSTER WANTS THE BELT ETC. ETC.” :)
Food goes in here
Maybe he’ll take a fight in KOTC next, if he can negotiate it to be for their HW strap. After all, it is the most prestigous title in the world (according to Cecil Peoples).
by Horselover Fat on Dec 29, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't Cormier the KOTC champ?
Not sure Reem wants to hit the mat with an Olympic wrestler any time soon.
Aside from Cain
Cormier is the guy I would give the best shot at beating Reem…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Cormier’s rise will be interesting this year. The man is willing to fight on very short notice and will fight 4-6 times this year if SF lets him.
Cormier and Phil Davis are my breakout stars for 2011. Also Nick Gaston is a favorite, but it might take him til 2012 to really break out. 2011 to get to a big stage, 2012 to break out.
Completely agree
about Cormier and Davis. I think Jon Jones will be forced to move to HW before he and Davis get to go at one another…and possibly before he ever even gets a title shot at LHW…
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-Mark Twain
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-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
JOnes already cuts from 235 on a really slim frame.
Once he adds some “man” muscle, he has no chance of making 205. Kind of reminds me of Reem in that regard, although Jones has the talent to win belts in both divisions. Bader is only a small distraction until Franklin/Forrest or Page.
But considering Rashad will probably beat Rua after the long lay-off and third knee surgery (which makes me sad), I expect Jones to move to HW sooner rather than later since he has made it abundantly clear he will not fight Rashad.
yeah
Ambition and drive suck in a human being.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
He will never get the one that matters the most.
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by Tokyo Sandblaster on Dec 29, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Even though I have no faith in Duffee's chin
I cannot wait for this match! I’d do ‘Yes’ Cartwheels if he knocked out Reem
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Not too many MMA fighters have a good chin when they are exhausted...
It was his pace and game plan that he executed improperly…
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Go Duffee
He has size and he has some power. Anything can happen. I like this fight!
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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VEe is ANIMated!
How can you have no faith in Duffee’s chin after just one fight? One flash KO?? You can never judge some ones chin after one fight.
Cant wait for this fight.
I more concerned with his defense He was just standing stationary and Russow hit him with right hand hard.
Food goes in here
I think Duffee was
all but gassed at that point and (foolishly) no longer worried about Russow…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Duffee punched himself out...
did not throw any kickS/Kick Combos…
He got overexcited and punched himself out…
Discipline is all he needs to work on…
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
It's not his chin that I worry about.
It’s the fact that he would only throw the same combo and played it safe.
He doesn’t seem that creative either.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
If Duffee wins, it will be a great day for MMA blogs everywhere. The stuff from DW alone would fill a week’s worth of articles.
Snowden’s inevitable follow-up would be epic as well.
Come on, Duffman! You can do it!
What MMA fights would make you think that OVereem is a better fighter than Todd Duffee?
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
The vast majority of them
not to mention his K-1 fights, considering this will be almost exclusively on the feet…
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-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 30, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Duffee has a far more prominent chin/target.
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by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 29, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions
Huh?
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-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 30, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
wamma belt
Since there is talk about belts, did werdum take fedor’s wamma belt? I would like to see him carry it around now. Reem should ask for that belt to be on the line when they fight to unify them. That would look nice next to his collection.
by cokido on Dec 29, 2010 10:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
“I’m not here to have a padded record or anything; I just want to see what I can do. This was a good chance to do that against a great name.”
I’m sure that $60k in guaranteed show money helped too. Gotta give Todd credit though, rumor had it that Sylvia and Arlovski (Lashley was confirmed) both passed on this fight too. He’s got cajones
yes
it’s 6 times what he made in the UFC.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
Duffee looks thrilled to be there in this picture
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You would too if you stood next to that chocolate adonis
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by Krimson on Dec 29, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t expect Duffee to win, but it would be cool to see him really putting up a fight and staying competitive, but I am still one of the only guys on his bandwagon. He’s winning already just in the fact that he is really getting his name back out there, and I hear that he got some good money for this fight.
I won't jump off the bandwagon just because you lost.
Hail to those BE'ers with striking expertise...
Striking is far from my area of expertise, and there are many others around BE who seem to know far more than I do about it, so this one is for you guys.
How much of a potential problem do you guys see striking defense being for Overeem considering that almost all of his training the last several months has been for K-1 with their larger gloves?
In other words, do you think some of his instinctive defensive covering up that he uses so well in K-1 might provide an opening for a good striker to exploit due to the smaller sized gloves used?
Do you think this is something he is likely to be able to correct over such a short period of time?
He seems like a very cerebral, high fight IQ kind of guy these days, so what is his best move if this is a valid concern? Attempt to overwhelm Duffee early perhaps?
Any and all input is appreciated, aside from merely pointing out what an idiotic line of questioning you think this is…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions
I don’t think that there’s any possible adjusting that can be made. Of course the probability that he’ll get hit increases, but the defense is the same: protect your chin. One thing he can do and he probably knows it, is acknowledging that covering up wont protect him as it did in K1 and using more footwork to avoid the damage. Considering his experience in MMA I’d guess that it’ll be not problem for him.
As for his strategy, I would assume that he’ll turn this in a more of a technical fight, leg kicks, middle kicks, some jabs, trapping Duffee in the corner (who is not used to fight in the ring) and finishing him there with knees. Duffee has showed decent TDD so I think that Reem wont try to take him down, unless some sort of clinch opportunity occurrs.
Yeah...protect you thumb...it's the only thing that differentiates you from the monkey...
by dancingChicken on Dec 29, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for your insight
I agree about the adjusting as there didn’t seem to be enough time to make any real changes. I think people largely underestimate how important even at the highest levels of MMA pre-fight training in general is, and especially training for a specific style and/or opponent.
I think this is why Anderson, one of the 3 best strikers in all of MMA, got caught pretty cleanly by that one shot in the first from Sonnen – probably 95%+ of his camp was spent on wrestling and grappling in general and TDD in particular prior to that fight, and he just wasn’t expecting that from Sonnen and it caught him a little off guard.
I think that if Duffee does have any chance at trying to take advantage of any possible or perceived flaw that I mentioned, it will be during the first time that they really exchange.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson got caught because he was still trying to comprehend this
by Cocytus on Dec 29, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
That did have to be something of a WTF moment for Anderson…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone at the bar went apeshit when that happened...
Anderson got caught in each round.
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
When I first saw him pull off the Chael Roll...
I knew it was going to be a serious fight. And it was. Up until the steroid story broke.
my prediction...
… overeem throws a punch, duffee blocks it with his forearm, duffee’s forearm bone breaks in multiple places and tilts to weird angle, ref is 2.5 steps away, reem throws 8 more punches while duffee falls into fetal position before ref breaks, duffee is TKO’d – KO’d unconscious flat on the canvas for 2 minutes.
I am kiddin, but he did look like a monster in the k-1 finals…
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
So is that a legit Judo throw or is that the professionally called “Bitch Toss”?
They made a video game about Yakuzas. It’s called Yakuza. And it’s about Yakuza
If a fat tire salesman from Sams club comes at you, you attempt a half assed hip throw that you learned in wrestling practice when you were 12 years old...
oh…and dont follow through with it either
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
somehow I don’t think he’ll be doing that to Duffee
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Why do you think that?
Just curious…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Because it was Brett. He isn’t exactly the most athletic or balanced HW. Fedor ragdolled Brett to the ground with ease in their fight within the first minute. I don’t think Duffee is going to be thrown around so easy. Having said that, I do believe Overreem will tee off on Duffman
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Fedor single legged him he didn’t Reem Toss him.
And before this fight weren’t alot of people saying “Overeem is fighting a guy bigger and stronger he won’t be able to ragdoll him like those one dimensional kickboxers he’s been bullying in Japan”
Food goes in here
no, go watch the fight, around the the 4:10 mark. This was before the single leg takedown. Fedor literally tossed him to the mat
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
The 4:07 mark in Rd1 to be exact. Fedor throws him down to the mat. As I said, Brett isn’t the most balanced, athletic guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmMRa0bxN0g
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
My prediction is Duffee bull rushes Overeem and catches the Reem off guard and tkos him. UFC lovers around the world will all laugh in unison while Dana white tweets smuggly to all that will listen.
If Duffee bull rushes Reem
it will make it the 9th time Reem wins by Guillotine…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
"People griping about this matchup need to stop using fight finder as their primary source of MMA information and watch some fights already."
-smoogy2
by The American Ronin on Dec 29, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
How is Duffee's wrestling?
The guy is powerful, and if he could hold Overeem down, that would be the way to go, I would say. Otherwise, he’s going to get backed up and finished. If Duffee makes it a fight at all it’s huge for him, he doesn’t even need the victory. I’m kind of impressed with his confidence as well.
Hmmm
He doesn’t want to go to the ground with the Reem. Reem would “rogers” him.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
While I think Overeem’s striking is very good, Tyrone Spong got the better of Overeem in some exchanges and also put him in bad spots a few times. I think Overeem didn’t lose that fight because of good striking but also because he had about 60 lbs of weight advantage and a clear power advantage (Spong was basically fighting at around 195 lbs).
I’m not saying Duffee can replicate what Spong did, but if he can, his power might get him there.
yeah.
I don’t buy the whole sprong was never a hw. He was pretty damn big.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
He’s HW because he has no (lucrative) choice to fight at MW where he belongs to. Few pounds of fat on his ass wont make him a HW (I’m sure that he has gained some power as a result of weight lifting, but still…)
Yeah...protect you thumb...it's the only thing that differentiates you from the monkey...
by dancingChicken on Dec 29, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, just watched the whole event on mute (on a website) and looked at his stats on K-1 website. Thanks for the clarification. Either way, IMO Overeem had a clear power advantage.
A few posts up, someone made a good point concerning the fact that Overeem might be getting used to K-1 gloves vs MMA gloves.
well
He uses his uberknees more than his fist in mma anyway.
He can get that full plum going.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
My thoughts exactly. I think once the initial bullrush from Duffee is over and they close the distance, the Reem will be able to use the thai plumb to inflict some serious damage. I don’t remember which fights exactly, but I do recall that Overeem got warned in a couple of the K-1 Grand Prix fights for going for the full muay thai plumb. I think it’ll definitely be a factor, especially if the Reem can back him into a corner (someone above mentioned the fact that Duffee probably isn’t used to fighting in a ring).
by mizunopro on Dec 29, 2010 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
by VelociAldo on Dec 29, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Also This fight > UFC Resolution.
Justified.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
by VelociAldo on Dec 29, 2010 2:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Haha So duffee is a squash figther now cuz he’s not in the UFC?
Sorry, this fight is interesting and will be fun.
Resolution, besides the gomi fight, is going to be pretty meat and potatoes. There are some prelims I’d like to see but I won’t be able to see those anyway.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
by VelociAldo on Dec 29, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha So duffee is a squash figther now cuz he’s not in the UFC?
What does him being/not being in the UFC have to do with anything? Duffee is a very green 6-1 prospect and Overeem is a ten year veteran of K-1 and MMA.
they've been heavyweights
The same amount of time.
But still, it’s a great fight even if duffee is green.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
Yes Overeem moved to heavyweight at the same time that Duffee started in the sport, and your point is?
Duffee and Lesnar have had about the same amount of fights?
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
Duffee and Lesnar aren't the same person
I could go out and fight 20 MMa fights tomorrow, but it would still be a bloody silly thing for me to fight Overeem.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 29, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s why and it has nothing to do with what organization the fighters are in:
Lashley and then Duffee were approached because they are both easily beaten opponents for the Reem but have the ridiculous physique that the Japanese promoters love. Seriously, Reem vs Duffee is the physique matchup of the century, and the Japanese eat that shit up.
Still, this is a win/win for Duffee unless he gets KO’d in the first minute without throwing any offense of his own. Huge payday, that .01% chance of winning over a named opponent who does have the SF belt, and a huge boost to his name recognition.
Unfortunately for Duffee, his primary weapon is boxing, and he’s undoubtedly going to stand with Reem, who will just destroy him on the feet. Reem just won the K1 Grand Prix, which is the preeminent striking organization in the world, and Duffee, well, look no further than his fight with Russow. Its like putting an amateur boxer up against Tyson (Reem).
Duffee has a 6-1 record, total of 7 fights. Overeem has a 33-11-1 record for a total of 45 MMA fights. Duffee is a green green prospect who hasn’t fought anyone of note. Overeem has fought the who’s who of MMA and K1 now. The experience level is an absolute landslide for Reem.
I’ll watch this fight AFTER the fact, UFC 125 is much more intriguing to me with more relevant, equal, and exciting fights schedules.
Well said...
Duffee gets experience and hopefully doesn’t get broken too badly. Nothing but upside for him.
He’s dead serious, why would anyone want to see the number 1 fighter in a division try to avenge his only loss loss to the number 3 fighter in that division when they can watch a prospect take on one of the best fighters in the world on short notice?
yup.
Because I know neither one of those guys will try to finish the fight. And I’ll sit there for 25 minutes waiting for something to happen… waiting.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
by VelociAldo on Dec 29, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're confusing things
Reem vs Duffee may very well be exciting. That has no bearing on the fact that its a squash match whether its a snoozer or a heart racer.
I don't think it's a squash match.
I think if this match was mad in the UFC nobody would bat an eye.
Duffee is a legit prospect still and Overeem is still growing in MMA.
If ya’ll wanna hate go ahead. I’ll watch the exciting fights.
"Brock Lesnar's NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn't worth debate."
by VelociAldo on Dec 29, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
rec
“Brock Lesnar’s NCAA record 8 years removed is absolutely relevant. Alistair Overeem winning the K-1 World Grand Prix in 2010? A total Non sequitur that isn’t worth debate.”
SUPREME'REEM K-1 Champ!
Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Dec 29, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are people really this dense?
Brock’s wrestling credentials + beating Randy Couture, Frank Mir, and Shane Carwin is not the same thing as Overeem’s K1 credentials + beating Brett Rogers, Fujita, and James Thompson.
Brocks wrestling credentials ARE a lot more relevant than Overeems K-1 accomplishments
its plain and simple.
There are very few UFC Champs that would do well in K-1.
Note the trend…
Wrestling>K-1
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Um why are you rec’ing his made up BS? Who said that Brock’s NCAA career had anything to do with relevance to rankings or anything that isn’t the same thing as Overeem’s K-1 wins? It means they are both legitimate athletes outside of MMA, it means very little inside of MMA for either though. What is important in MMA is what you do in MMA.
Like take 3rd in the 2005 PRIDE tourny?
The best MMA tourny in history?
SUPREME'REEM K-1 Champ!
Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
This fight > UFC Resolution???
Any HW fight is going to be entertaining…Especially with a fighter who is popular…
Overeem is 10X more popular than skilled…He is pretty good though.
If it was not for DVR, however, I would not be able to watch this fight.
I know that New Years only comes around once a year, but DREAM makes sure that the production is DRAGGED out!
I am already annoyed with Schiavellos reactions to the outcome of the fight…
You do not need DVR to fastfoward through most UFC broadcasts…
by cardiackids on Dec 29, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Duff T-shirt says "Doubt Me" Oh, I do.
that said….big balls for stepping up to fight ’Reem.
SUPREME'REEM K-1 Champ!
Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
Duffee looks scared
"But I was like "I don't know how they do things where you guys are from, but I dont think monogamy is legal in this country."
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