Georges St. Pierre - A Boring Timeline (GIF AND PICTURE HEAVY)
by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST
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PrintSigh. Another day, another boring GSP fight. He didn't finish Josh Koscheck (again!) the same way he didn't finish Dan Hardy or Thiago Alves or Jon Fitch. Tsk tsk. For once he couldn't dry-hump his way to victory so he resorted to jabbing his opponent. Lame. He never takes risks, he's a safe fighter, he doesn't look to finish fights anymore. Come to think of it most of his UFC career has been a gigantic snoozer.....
UFC 48 - Sent everyone out of the arena in utter boredom after he knocked out Jay Hieron in 102 seconds.
UFC 54 - Choked out Frank Trigg, but Matt Hughes already did that twice. Highly unoriginal and dull.
UFC 56 - Bored Sean Sherk so badly, Sherk's nose exploded through one of GSP's smothering elbows. As you can see in the gif the guy clapping was relieved that dross was done with.
UFC 58 - Won a split decision over BJ Penn in one of the closest fights in UFC history. GSP took down Penn late in the fight to perhaps seal the victory. Takedowns are for Lay-and-Pray wimps, St. Pierre should've knocked him out.
UFC 65 - Conquered Matt Hughes, then the only man to defeat him. St. Pierre at long last was UFC Welterweight Champion. You know what rhymes with "champion"? Ambien.
UFC 79 - Found a new, boring way to defeat Hughes in the Rubber Match, by winning with the same submission he had lost by in his first fight against Matt. Yawn. Where's my Triple Decker Pecker Wrecker?
UFC 83 - Avenged his stunning loss to Matt Serra by safely planting his knees in Serra's body. Since Serra was not knocked from his senses with punches, this goes down as the lamest KO in the history of the UFC.
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UFC 87 - Covered Jon Fitch like a blanket. This blanket was filled with purple and red stains but that got fixed through surgery.
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UFC 94 - BJ Penn was so tired from trying to prevent GSP from smothering him to death that his corner said "F*** this S***. He didn't come to fight. Come on BJ let's go home!" before round 5. Oh yeah, Greasegate also happened, presumably to lessen the dryness in the humping Penn was going to receive.
UFC 100 - Knocked down Thiago Alves but only won by decision. Not only did he win by decision, his groin was pulled and he ignored Greg Jackson's command to "hit him with your groin", undeniable evidence that GSP is the ultimate "play-it-safe" fighter.
UFC 111 - Failed to rip Dan Hardy's arm from its socket. Rousimar Palhares demands a catchweight fight with Hardy so he can remove it the way one would rip a branch off a tree. Another decision? Yawn.
UFC 124 - You know what happened....
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If we conveniently ignore GSP's finishes and then take decisions out-of-context, I'd say he's not an exciting fighter at all. And his opponent is who? Jake Shields? Captain Decision himself? That Toronto card is going to SUCK. No wonder St. Pierre's nickname is "Rush" because when he fights you want to rush for the remote to watch something else.
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awesome post.
I love GSP and as a fan and having trained in MMA, I thoroughly enjoyed the fight against
Koscheck. GSP truly puts the art in Mixed Martial Arts; it was a beautiful performance.
Some of the combos he threw were a product of pure athleticism combined with perfect technique. I didn’t think his fight against Koscheck was boring at all. If anything, I thought his fight against BJ was more on the boring side.
To play devil’s advocate:
However, as far as finishes go, I believe the old adage that you’re only as good as your last fight applies here. In GSP’s case, its his last three fights. Many casual fans do not remember what happened a few years ago. As well, GSP’s style of fighting has progressively evolved to be a ‘safer’ and ‘boring’ fighter (I think we all agree that he fights safer now, boring? well that’s more open to debate). So I don’t think you can really say that GSP isn’t boring because he finished guys 4, 5, 6 fights ago. It’s all about how his style of fighting is now, but several years ago.
he baBOOMed him with the knee
as he went to shoot. Yes, the kick was partially blocked.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 14, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
the kick was blocked but he kneed him in the face…
by kick_puncher on Dec 15, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
The kick was blocked but even so it drove Fitch’s head back about a foot…
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 15, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Me too, but only because he’s such a badass and was all smiles at the post-fight press conference.
It’ll be something to behold when somebody KOs that guy, if it ever happens.
And I think this fight was at middleweight
Meaning Wilson Gouveia actually made weight.
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Woops thanks
I think he fought Mike Pyle at 185? He did fight at MW in his debut.
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Well
In that fight, Fitch stupidly decided to stand and trade with Wilson, and we all saw the results of that. Last time he’s ever tried that, needless to say
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 15, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really surprised that you didn't post more of that fight
It’s the ultimate counterargument to the lameass “ever since Serra” argument.
You know, where somehow the haters completely ignore GSP-Serra II and GSP-Fitch when saying he became a ground fighter since that loss. Hell, even GSP-Alves had plenty of standup.
The Fitch fight was also clear evidence to me that Koscheck-GSP II would be a standup affair. I can’t believe that Koscheck and so many in the MMA community believed otherwise, especially with Fitch as his training partner. Just goes to show how far myths can perpetuate in MMA.
If you look at his whole career
there is no way anyone could say GSP does not finish. But recently his finish rate is pretty low. Fitch took a beating, I didn’t think that fight was dull at all. GSP was good, Fitch was tough, and that was the story. Same thing with the Hardy fight. Many fighters would probably have tapped, but Hardy hung in there. Koscheck fight was fine. Clearly a masterful performance, and total domination.
But go back and look at your first GIF, and try to recall anything remotely resembling it that took place last Saturday. That is why people complain. He showed a lot of fury in earlier fights, and is now turning in technically excellent performances that are not as flashy.
I consider myself a softcore fan.
I think that's just the evolving of GSP as a fighter
He was a little wild to start but very talented. I do think he is a little “safer” but he is still looking to finish the fight without being too reckless.
Someone else pointed out in another fanpost that Hardy, Koscheck, Fitch, and Alves aren’t exactly guys that have a history of being stopped, but Hardy aside he beat the other three down like no other fighters have ever done.
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He's still looking to finish the fight
But he’s clearly less successful. I just miss the wrecking machine Georges used to be. He’s obviously a beast, but he makes me nostalgic.
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The quality of his opposition has improved a little.
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by Richard Wade on Dec 14, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Interesting note:
Every opponent of GSP has done enough in the sport to earn a Wikipedia page. No gimme’s, and I believe only one guy he’s fought has a losing record. He never had a low level of competition and could someday make a case for strongest strength of schedule. Although right now I believe that title still goes to either Rampage or Dan Henderson today.
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“Earn” a wikipedia page? You mean like create it themselves or have friend do it? Big fan of gsp but this argument is lacking
by kick_puncher on Dec 15, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
This is such simple and apparent fact it blows my mind that so many people fail to comprehend it. Georges routinely fights some of the very best in the world. It goes without saying, the very best are fucking hard to finish. And yet people scathingly criticize him for it. It’s farcical.
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He’s still looking to finish the fight
I didn’t had that feeling against Koscheck. I was somewhat dissapointed he was satisfied in jabbing the hell out of Kos.
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by vivero on Dec 14, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a new theory
His version of “playing it safe” involves not killing his opponent.
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by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It could have been a finish like with BJ Penn II if the corner or doctor had done their parts
BJ Penn might not have also intended to get a head kick finish of Diego Sanchez, but that one — the only one thrown that fight by Penn by the way — did it too.
to take it further
I dont think you would see GSP throw knees like that Serra gif.
His more recent knees were a lot more controlled; he would make sure whomever was on the bottom wouldnt be able to scramble
by stiffUpperLip on Dec 14, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
How about a little context
He threw knees like that because Serra covered his head and went fetal. He was hurt or mentally broken before that.
GSP didn’t have to devote any attention to holding Serra down. If he did that to Fitch, Alves, Hardy, or Koscheck, they would spring to their feet immediately.
Weird that the gifs stop after the second Serra fight
Which was also when the criticisms started.
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If you didn't think the Alves fight was awesome, I just....
…no words, just anger
Alves was pacing each round like a tiger behind fucking bars. I had “chickenskin” the entire fight
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by Austin Martin on Dec 14, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest that's me picking and choosing
The Fitch fight is a gigantic GIF, I could put in the Superman Punch on BJ, dropping Thiago Alves, I’ll admit the Hardy fight was exclusively sub attempts, and then Koscheck’s eye broke in any gif you wanted.
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
What’s getting a bit on my nerve is people throwing to my face the number of decisions, like decision = boring.
Except all fight of the nights and most FOTY are decisions. GSP is just so superior to his competition that what could be wars always end up being one sided ass whooping…and we’re going to call him boring for that. I can’t roll with that.
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by spectaa on Dec 14, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
In the same token
You can’t tell people what they should and shouldn’t appreciate. I like a bit of action, but for the most part I appreciate technique. Still I know guys in the gym who are 100% technique and guys who are straight up brawlers. Nobody is wrong. The only thing wrong is outrage that some people don’t like the approach Georges has been taking. No one has said Georges Sucks, blah blah blah… All arguments from both sides are fair.
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by JaeeJaee on Dec 15, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, it is weird, because that's when he had some of his best highlights
Multiple vicious knockdowns of Fitch.
Dropping Alves with punches for the first time ever.
The unprecedented pounding of Penn.
The criticism are complete and utter bullshit (except for the Hardy fight, where he still had exciting submission attempts).
Here's that knockdown of Fitch
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by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone who claims that punch didn’t hurt is welcome to try taking one. A fighter with less stamina or a weaker chin (Fitch’s seems to be made of granite) would’ve certainly gone bye-bye.
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 15, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
no. that's fitch's soul escaping his body, saying "fuck this shit"
by Body Triangle on Dec 17, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think some of GSP's best .GIFs are post-Serra.
The Fitch kick he caught and knocked him down, the superman punch on BJ’s face, the ground and pound where BJ’s head bounces off the ground, the flying takedown on Alves, the knockdown on Alves, the Jude throw of Matt Hughes, etc.
You're right
It is silly to call GSP boring and say that he can’t finish a fight. I am tired of hearing people try to make the case that he actually sucks because he doesn’t knock people out or take their arm home every fight out.
I am also equally sick of hearing people make excuses for why he didn’t finish his latest fight. Everyone from Greg Jackson and his other coaches to GSP himself to fans like you endlessly talk about how Koscheck or Fitch or Hardy were just really tough and how Georges went for the finish but it didn’t come. In every pre-fight interview he is focused on the finish. In every post fight interview he apologizes for not getting the finish. Boring.
Why can’t we just tell it like it is? George fights elite guys every time out and dominates them. He carefully chooses a path of least resistance to victory, then executes. He takes as little risk as possible while achieving his ultimate goal, the win. He should just say it, but we have to keep all the fans happy. To GSP, this is purely sport.
GSP will never be a Wanderlei Silva type of figher who cares as much about the excitement level of his fights as the outcome. Either you like him or you don’t.
Dan Hardy is not "elite" competition
and GSP should have finished him handily considering their respective skillsets.
I also think GSP could have turned up the heat a bit and varied his attack on Koscheck if he really wanted to finish, but I don’t hold it against him. That fight, as well as the Fitch fight, should have been stopped by the corner anyways.
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by pdl on Dec 14, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Okay, Hardy isn’t. But the other contenders that GSP fought have been. I agree that he could turn it up more in those fights. I would like to see that personally. But that is not his gameplan. He out there to dictate where the fight goes dominate his opponent where they are least comfortable. I’m sure he would love a finish, but he is not going to change his strategy or put himself at risk to get it. If he views this purely as a sport, should he?
This is how GSP will fight for the rest of his career, and we are all wasting our breath either bashing him or defending him for lack of fight finishes. He is the best welterweight ever and in the running for best fighter ever, but that doesn’t mean everyone likes his style.
by Anton Chigurh on Dec 15, 2010 6:34 AM EST up reply actions
That's the anomaly
Not the pattern.
GSP abandoned GNP and standup for the first time ever. He was hell bent on submitting Hardy.
Which is interesting cuz he also outstruck Hardy on the feet. I would of expected him to be a lil more confident by then.
You know
Nobody is saying he is boring per say. He is fun to watch on a technical level.
But I think in a reaction to people who say he is P4P king then you have to ask
1. Where are the finishes?
2. Where are the victories over those in higher weight classes?
I think all this anti-boring talk is just a overreaction to all the he is P4P king overreaction.
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Fedor should not be in P4P consideration
Look at the number of decisions he is.
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Sorry, decisions he has against top competition
Decision win against Big Nog (twice), beat CroCop by decision, Semmy Schilt was a decision, Babalu by decision, Ricardo Arona by decision….I can’t remember the other one off my head but I think it was a Japanese fighter.
The point is we shouldn’t judge a fighter’s greatness based on their finishing rates. GSP has a somewhat low decision rate but he has DOMINATED his opposition. No one has challenged him since the Serra fight, and we know how the rematch happened.
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
welll
your point is still spurious.
GSP isn’t finishing guys that aren’t top level competition.
Dan Hardy?
He already beat KOS once.
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Hardy is someone he should've finished, but....
Koscheck has been finished a grand total of 2 times in his career.
Alves a grand total of 2 times in the UFC
Fitch’s only loss in the UFC is to GSP and I think Fitch’s other losses were extremely early in his career.
These guys are tough to finish and frankly Kos and Fitch should’ve had their fights stopped for their own safety and not to look like they’ve been chewed up and spit out.
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Florian has been finished twice (once at 155)… Diego has been finished once. BJ finished them.
Henderson only 3 times. Marquardt only 3 times. Anderson finished em.
GSP’s best finish has been over BJ, and Serra recently, but both are much smaller men, and not natural WW’s. I don’t entirely disagree with your point, but I do think there is something to be said for Elite fighters being able to finish other high level fighters.
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by Broke Lesnar on Dec 14, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson has only finished two of his last five fights, and he was dominated in the second of those.
by Disco-Platypus on Dec 15, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and yet he still came back to finish.
he has also been criticized just the same for not finishing fights, though in his case it was more blatant.
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Finished because he was forced to.
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by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
He's lost a grand total of five times
Which means two out of the three times he’s lost to opponents other than Georges he’s been finished.
Alves was finished by FITCH.
Fitch is a tough sonuvabitch.
Georges is a great fighter, but he is not a great finisher.
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by Neil Manich on Dec 14, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
the last sentence is the BEST way to put it.
"In this fight, Anderson showed he was human," Nogueira said. "He showed he could be weak. But he showed he is a fighter and he brings something from his heart. It was beautiful."
by Broke Lesnar on Dec 14, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I concede this.
However, comparing the strength of competition between Anderson and Georges is downright silly.
Georges’ last five opponents:
Koscheck
Hardy
Alves
Penn
Fitch
Alves, Penn and Fitch, by most accounts, were pound-for-pound top ten when those bouts took place – and all but Hardy were very legitimate contenders.
Anderson’s last five opponents:
Chael Sonnen
Demian Maia
Forrest Griffin
Thales Leites
Patrick Cote
Maia had literally just been beaten two fights before and Patrick Cote’s biggest win was against McFedries, while Leites was a legitimate contender, and Anderson did not dominate him.
Both Sonnen and Griffin are on par with Georges’ competition, and he finished both of those fights. Though he was completely dominated in the other.
Anderson is a great finisher, but he is not a great fighter.
by Disco-Platypus on Dec 15, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anderson is not a great fighter?
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You mean the first fight between them
In which Fitch beat Alves by TKO (upkick and punches) was a decision?
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Exactly how Fedor dominated Nog and Cro Cop back in the day as well right?
Both Nog fights were complete domination by Fedor. Made Nog look like a child out there. And Cro Cop? He had my boy back-pedaling the whole fight and get this, he beat Cro Cop in the STAND UP. That was just unheard of. Imagine a MMA fighter beating a former #1 ranked heavyweight kickboxer.
You gotta apply the same standards for Fedor’s opponents that you do to St. Pierres opponents.
That's my point
I hold Fedor in high regard and think he’s an all-time great. So if Fedor can dominate his opponents and not finish them, why can’t GSP?
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think the big difference between them is that Fedor is willing to play into his opponents game to try and get the finish.
I don’t think I’ve seen that type of urgency in GSP. He seems happy to keep the entire fight where he is comfortable at.
I believe that is why Fedor often gets the nod over St. Pierre.
Understandable.
I guess where people draw the line is Domination vs. Finishing Someone Who is Being Dominated.
I believe GSP tried to finish Fitch, because Fitch’s face suggests so. The Alves fight as well until he pulled his groin. Obviously he tried to finish Hardy and Koscheck would’ve been finished if the doctor and the corner decided it was a pointless chase.
The thing with St. Pierre is he seems to pick a theme with each fight. With the Hardy fight he chose submissions, with Fitch he chose Operation Sh*twrecker, Koscheck was the jabfest, etc.
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, at Operation Shitwrecker.
But I think we can only come to one reasonable conclusion then: Highly ranked fighters are harder to finish then lower ranked competition.
Quality of competition, eh.
See, that makes me give it to GSP. Fighting to your opponents’ strengths is just plain dumb. A sign of mental weakness.
Guillotine.
Apparently he was supposed to use his whip to disarm the guy, but had really bad diarrhea and had to go to the bathroom, so he improvised. Not sure if it’s true or not, but a great story.
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So you're ok with Anderson dicking around for 3 rounds refusing to engage Maia?
Or maybe you are content with GSP jabbin the living hell outta somebody, right?
Idk, but continually pushing the pace and always looking for a finish even if it means playing into your opponents game is very respectable and should be one of the decisive factors when you are taking into account who the best fighter in the world really is.
Again, to me that is fighting stupid. The point of a fight is to win, and playing into your opponent’s strengths lowers your chance to win.
Guillotine.
Well, the Werdum loss was entirely due to a mental lapse and/or temporary stupidity. He got out of the armbar/triangle and went right back in.
Still, I agree that an attacking mentality is part of fighter greatness. That’s why I think it’s a joke that Fedor got hammered in P4P rankings with that loss while Silva reigns supreme.
Silva refuses to attack a fighter on his back and gives us two awful fights due to that mentality, and we reward him with #1 status. Meanwhile, Fedor goes to finish Werdum, gets caught for doing so rather than waiting for a standup, and we punish him for doing so.
by Mint on Dec 15, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only knock I hold against Fedro is his lack of competition. He is a great fighter, but he is fighting in a division where even the top 10 fighters are a shadow of the competition at the median weight classes. That and his management dicking around with everyone and wasting the best years of his career.
Personally I would much rather see him fight the guys at 205.
Guillotine.
Fighting at where your opponent is best shows a lot of courage and heart. Just look at how utterly destroyed were both Nog and Cro Cop. Go back and watch those fights again and take note of their facial expressions….the way they both look completely and utterly helpless is just scary.
And HW is somewhat of a mess but everyone in the top ten is most definitely legit.
I agree with your point about his management…ugh.
Top 10 rankings are comparative values based on the peers in the weight class, not absolute skill ratings. The top 10 heavyweights are legit…heavyweights. There are few people who can fight at that weight, even fewer who are remotely athletic, and even fewer who pursue MMA as a career rather than football or basketball. It is simple population distribution.
Guillotine.
It shows courage and heart (and pride), but not intelligence. Also what is worse, knowing that someone is better than you at something, or knowing that no matter how good you are at something, it doesn’t matter due to something else? GSP makes his opponents look as bad if not worse than Fedro does.
Guillotine.
Placing that level of emphasis on finishes is an issue.
There is something to be said for individuals who can thoroughly dominate competition, whether or not they finish them. The history of combat sports should show that there will always be varied fighting styles, skill sets, physical attributes, etc. Ranking fighters (while inherently troubled in my opinion) needs to recognize those factors. Am I going to necessarily place Earnie Shavers above a fighter like Willie Pep, whose decision to knockout ratio was near 4:1, because he could put people out?
by Brent Ducharme on Dec 14, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Finishes in MMA are at a premium.
Its just part of the sports. Fans expect it.
Just like they expect scuffles in hockey and corruption in boxing.
It’s a cultural thing.
All I’m saying is when you throw GSP in the ring with other fantastic finishers it has to be taking into account.
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Jon Fitch then won't be considered an all-time great welterweight
As boring as hell as he is he has beaten everyone the UFC has thrown at him outside of GSP.
GSP hasn’t finished lately but he has DOMINATED his opposition, which is the next closest thing.
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Who are the fantastic finishers?
Anderson would be named as one, and he hasn’t finished any of his last 3 title fights (Cote blew his knee out, Anderson didn’t finish him).
I don’t have a big issue with ranking Anderson as #1 p4p, as it’s a somewhat silly concept, but he’s also not been as dominant as GSP, and has faced inferior competition to GSP.
noone can dispute that he is top 3 p4p. the fact that he’s had a few decisions is moot. and why would he need to fight in higher weight classes? that’s why it’s called “pound for pound” meaning if everyone was the same weight, that fighter would be more dominant.
by kick_puncher on Dec 15, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
dude get a life
i would love to see you get in there with GSP or any of the fighters he has fought and see if you can do better. sure he hasnt finished his fights all the time, but he has won most of them in a decisive way.
by thebleedingfuk on Dec 14, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is the ultimate WOOOOOOSHHHHH moment.
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by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
A GSP fan yelling at a fellow GSP fan :)
Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
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by DirtyML on Dec 14, 2010 10:48 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Why isn’t this rec’d? First time I’ve seen it, and I like it.
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Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Probably because this is its second outing in a few days
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by Drunken cutman on Dec 15, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
i see what you did there
and I loved it! great article man
GSP broke my orbital bone. I was walking by the TV and one of his fights was on. I was instantly rendered unconscious, breaking my orbital bone on the floor.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Time to put some meat in your pain sandwich.
by Ubernoober on Dec 15, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
17 fights in the UFC, and you found 6 highlight gifs, none of which are KOs. Yawn.
Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 10:15 AM EST reply actions
Your schtick is old. Yawn.
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by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
TBH, I think you did get a bit lazy halfway through. There were a shitload of highlights in the Fitch, Penn, and Alves fights.
I didn't want to make the fanpost a screeching halt for your computers
But at least I know next time I do this I’ll post more.
Accustomed to mediocrity.
by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
It’s just that after reading your piece, I knew we’d get smartass comments like those from MMAInFeRioRiTy and hlebtasic. They would say, “oh look! in the last couple years he’s become safe and boring! even GSP fanboys can’t find highlights.”
Which is obviously false, and makes them look even more foolish. A perfect setup to use their words against them.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Dec 16, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And while it was ruled a TKO, Matt Hughes was pretty much out from the kick and the punches (not seen in the gif)
That’s a KO to me.
Accustomed to mediocrity.
by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
“Pretty much” = TKO
Hit the weights, Georges.
Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
So you don't care for GSP because he isn't beheading people?
GSP is not a one punch KO power guy but he messes you up.
And funny you put Machida on the boring list when he had two of the most violent KOs in recent UFC history.
Accustomed to mediocrity.
I’m unrealistically demanding. You should try being my girlfriend. Poor girl.
Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well...you expect finishes out of her
Accustomed to mediocrity.
by SSreporters on Dec 15, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Machida only has 3 finishes out of 8 UFC wins. That’s not enough to get me aroused.
Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
He has 4 finishes out of 7 UFC wins. Slightly better. Also, he’s a non-stop cardio machine, and he doesn’t run away. He gets points for that.
Exciting: Fedor, Anderson, Wanderlei, Sanchez, Shogun, Cain, Alistair, Aldo
Boring: GSP, Machida, Fitch, Edgar, Maynard, Okami, Shields
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I also can't understand how you classify Edgar as boring.
Maybe your not a fan of technique or strategy, but saying he is boring for putting together brilliant gameplan’s and winning just doesn’t make sense to me. Kind of goes back to the GSP arguement.
Anthony Pettis is my hero, my idol, my whole reason for sticking with MMA for 5 year's. Off-the-cage ninja kick FTMFW!
GSP *powerlifts*... that's plenty of weights being lifted.
It’s not like weights magically grant punching power. If he doesn’t have it he doesn’t have it. I think it’s partially a mental, partially technical thing from GSP… watching him fight and analyzing him as a former amateur boxer, he doesn’t sit in on his punches… Koscheck can get away with KO power cause he throws huge haymakers, but if GSP wants to throw technically crisp strikes with KO power, he needs to really crank his weight into them, and I don’t think he does. Even that knockdown on Fitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kcaeVeBEjU
his stance is almost perpendicular to the direction he threw the overhand right. Also, he seems to lean back a bit. Fitch got CLOCKED, but I think if GSP was in a better stance, or at least mentally committed himself, he would have really sat in on that punch and would have done a lot more damage. Granted, this is MMA, so its a lot harder to be in that exact position, which I think why a lot of fighters end up throwing the huge haymakers.
Or maybe GSP is just a light puncher, it happens. Some people just don’t have the bone structure/density/muscle type to KO people. Although I think if GSP threw the counter left hook Roach asked him to throw more often, he could have hurt Josh a lot more.
You cannot walk if you fear to crush the ant in your wake.
Great entry. There’s another point here – if you think GSP plays too safe just so he can win, imagine this thought experiment. Lets say there’s a rule change that championship fights go until a finish – if there’s no TKO, KO, SUB, you just have more rounds. Who on that list would have beaten GSP in their respective fights? Hardy would have been subbed, Fitch would have been subbed or not answered the bell, and Kos would have either been TKO doctor stoppage or flat out TKO.
by moconne6 on Dec 15, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Fitch would've been KOed.
Outside of the 2nd round he was destroyed on the feet.
Accustomed to mediocrity.
Until GSP literally kills people with his strikes
the haters gonna hate. Loved the post.
"You stick a microphone in a guy's face and he calls out anybody but the champion, and Joe Silva should fax him a pink slip right then." -- Chael Sonnen.
Love it.
People just glance at GSP’s record and see decisions and conclude that he’s boring, without understanding what went on during each of those 25 minute fights. The Fitch bout was especially exciting, especially since so many people had been waiting for Fitch to get his shot.
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- welterweight contender Josh Koscheck
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