Alistair Overeem Crowned K-1 World Grand Prix Champion, Crushes Peter Aerts in Final
by Leland Roling on Dec 11, 2010 7:52 AM EST
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Heavyweights in combat sports have an appeal that is undeniable. While mixed martial arts fans and boxing fans alike have equally suffered through some trying times in finding a suitable heavyweight to fill their need for powerful strikers within the division, there is usually some promising talent on the horizon that has the potential to become that type of attraction. Not since the days of Mike Tyson have we seen a devastating puncher who can attract people to a sport who aren't necessarily committed to watching it on a consistent basis, but Alistair Overeem's K-1 World Grand Prix final performance may be a sign of things to come.
In a mere one minute and seven seconds, Overeem destroyed his opponent, 40-year-old K-1 legend Peter Aerts, with a ferocious salvo of punches that had even the hardest of the hardcore K-1 fans gasping in awe. While it was predicted by many, including myself, that Overeem would walk his way through the competition and win the title, his path to glory wasn't as easy as expected.
Tyrone Spong used his speed to frustrate Overeem in the quarterfinals, hurting him at one point in the first round and creating some doubt in Overeem's abilities to win the crown. After the scare, Overeem regained his composure and secured the victory after knocking down Spong in the third round.
In the semifinals, Overeem met Turkish-Dutch fighter Gokhan Saki, who had narrowly defeated Daniel Ghita in the quarterfinals in a brutal war of attrition. Saki only lasted two minutes and thirty-three seconds in the first round as Overeem glanced a heavy kick off Saki's right elbow, breaking it instantly. Other reports confirmed that Saki was also harboring a broken hand, and Mike Kogan, one of HDNet's commentators, suggested that something was wrong early in the fight due to Saki's hesitance to throw with the right.
It wasn't the ideal situation for Peter Aerts as he had one of the toughest fights of his career in the semifinals against last year's World Grand Prix champion, Semmy Schilt. Aerts implemented an aggressive gameplan of pushing foward and lunging punches at Schilt, and while it was a narrowly contested bout -- Aerts' relentlessness in the final frame paid off as he blasted Semmy with multiple overhands to secure the victory.
Aerts suffered a cut during the bout, and there was some question as to whether he would be allowed to continue. But Aerts wasn't going to quit at that point, not when he was on the verge of making history and shocking the entire combat sports world. Unfortunately, Overeem, who had beaten Aerts in the final 16 leg in last year's Grand Prix, was an insurmountable obstacle standing in his way.
Overeem's demeanor changed from fight to fight, and Aerts met the most aggressive version of Overeem in the finals. He stalked Aerts with a sense of urgency that we hadn't seen earlier in the evening, and it hinted at the possibility of Overeem pacing himself in his quarterfinal bout with Spong. There was no need for a governor on Overeem's engine in the final however, and he exploded in a fury of combinations that disintegrated any notion that Aerts stood a chance.
Alistair's performance in the Grand Prix certainly raises questions regarding his appeal and potential in Strikeforce in 2011. He's obviously one of the biggest sports stars in Japan, and the win will only bring more attention to the fact that the ferocity he brings to a fight should translate to dominance in the mixed martial arts world. I'll remain skeptical as to whether that will happen, but it's hard to ignore the fact that Alistair is one of the most exciting heavyweights on the planet.
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The Strikeforce belt is garbage.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He's also gunning for the "garbage" DREAM title on NYE.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 11, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Hoo-ray
Two meaningless trinket belts instead of one. Maybe he’ll rematch Fujita for it.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is like awarding you in a belt in masturbating and a belt in writing shitty articles at the same time, it’s prestigious.
by DirtyML on Dec 11, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 24 recs
this is one of the funniest things i've read on BE
Even GSP can't make the Princeton Tiger less of a sissy...
by Anthony Pace on Dec 11, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I totally get your point. I mean hell, why would I ever bother reading any of your articles over at WKR when i can read some of the best in the business at BE?
by castleeb on Dec 11, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 13 recs
This overeem is good
but let’s see how he does in the UFC. I think he should beat Werdum
Can anyone point me to maybe the offspring of the horse that Overeem ate before this tournament? Now that horse is something to watch out for.
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Please stop the discusion about the Ultimate Staring Competition
You are a poor loser Sheeplebuster.
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
say what?
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
The horsemeat thing blabla
It’s getting old.
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's getting old because it's true
or because you just can’t stand someone criticizing your boy Overeem? I certainly don’t appreciate the loser comment but who cares. Meh. Who cares.
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
It annoys me yes, but calling you a loser is so true
Alistair does a lot for the sport in general and the fans, someone else isn’t even close.
He brings quality vlogs and fights, you are pissing on the wrong guy.
Start your conversation about Sonnen, Lesnar or Carwin and the steroids.
Your just a hater and a DWDR.
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by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I responded to your question below.
Please don’t judge. I have not accused Overeem of steroid use. I was just making fun of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1E18MqkSZ8
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fighter bashing
He won the K1 wgp just be happy for the dude. Stop the hate for one day. Did you win a belt today?
by Papercut Elbow on Dec 11, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Horse meat jokes got old a long ass time ago.
Especially when Alistair passed his drug testing in the US.
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by pdl on Dec 11, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I am not saying he is on steroids man
I just find eating horses amusing. I know a lot of you “mma fans” think horse means steroids. I don’t. I have never had horse meat before. Have you? I mean is it that hard to believe that maybe some of us have never had horse meat before?
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with eating horses, they’re just cows that you can ride that can run faster than cows.
Nothing is special about a horse, they just have a sentimental value in the eyes of americans, in canada, particularly alberta, you can eat horses like you can eat bison or any other slow moving 4 legged cow relative.
I have lived in the U.S.
Middle East, and Asia. I have never even seen a place that sells meat horse meal. haha. People are so uptight these days. Anything you say about anyone turns into a is he on juice discussion…..
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Horse meat is big in europe, and it was consumed here in the states too. Especially during the great depression, everything was consumed that was edible then.
I just think you are a fool sheeple, and you do hate on everything
by TheBiggertheyare... on Dec 11, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
What does great depression has to do with
Overeem? Anyways. I guess I am a hater :) Happy?
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Horsemeat
Consumption of horsemeat is reasonably stable nowadays, and there are still many traditional horse abattoirs in Southern Europe in particular.
Horsemeat is generally a service item for Dutch butchers. Sales are very stable however, which is hardly surprising when considering that horsemeat is healthier and less fatty than other types of meat.
Most of the horsemeat in the Netherlands comes out of the
America continent, both north and south.
Great Western / Dallas Crown – North America
Aimar / Friquay – Argentina
Clay – Uruquay
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by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now this is great information
I can tell you. I have had camel meat when I was in Dubai. Never horse meat.
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by SheepleBuster on Dec 11, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
horsemeat is reasonably stable
Ha!
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Time to put some meat in your pain sandwich.
by Ubernoober on Dec 11, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
hahaha
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Nice catch
When did you get back? Hasn’t been the same here without all your one liners. All done with the military thing?
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by RearNakedChoker on Dec 11, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
The thing with horse meat is it is a very lean piece of meat with loads of benefits like high protein and Omega 3. Eating a serving of horse meat can have more than half less fat than regular beef but is still loaded to the gills with protein. Chefs all over Europe, especially Gordon Ramsay, use it quite frequently. Overeem has repeatedly said it is a huge part of his diet. The reference has nothing to do with steroids.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
What kinda garbage is K1 when headlines read.....
" blah blah blah crushes Peter Aerts in final" That’s like the Yankees winning the world series in 2011 by beating Nolan Ryan pitching or something. Aerts is still ok but he’s ancient. The competition is so weak in that league.
Lol stfu seriously.
Food goes in here
by Pandanus on Dec 11, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 12 recs
K1 is so fucking weak
that no American ever won the belt.
Please KidThunder, stfu!
There is more besides UFC and stroking your penis.
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 13 recs
I remember a time not too long ago when a certain 40+ year old fighter held the HW title in the UFC
by TheBiggertheyare... on Dec 11, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
You are an epic tool.
Aerts is a God.
"God bless....God."
Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Dec 11, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Other comment about you that will probably get greened!
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by Tim Burke on Dec 11, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Jesus Christ
You reccers are relentless today. Hilariously so.
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by Neil Manich on Dec 11, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
rec
"God bless....God."
Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
by RolloTomasi on Dec 11, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
All I want for christmas is
Overeem vs Fedor, or just Overeem in MMA.
That was a fantastic event though, I was jumping on my couch Tom Cruise style when Aerts was taking it to Semmy in the third. A little sad he didn’t go all the way, but Overeem did a hell of a job, what a scary man
It's too bad that aerts and saki were already injured...
I think alistair would have beaten them both anyway but now people will use it as an excuse, some are already saying that saki was “taking it to alistair” and would have beat him if he was fresh. I think injury or not Alistair would have ran through both saki and aerts.
You can see at the start of most alistairs fights that he starts pretty slow and lets his opponent throw some shots but about a min in he starts opening up on em.
Watch that fight again and get off reems nuts. Saki was quicker crisper AND beat up bad.
by hexbreaker on Dec 11, 2010 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Saki's first fight was brutal
K-1 is nuts, especially with the tournament style elimination, so much respect to anyone in the backet
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Maloes Coenen said before her last fight that Saki had been training his ground game and would be doing MMA in 2011. That likely means SF. Saki is able to make 205. If that is the way it plays out it will be interesting. Put some 4oz gloves on the boy and drop him into the SF 205 division and just wait for hilarity and hijinks to ensue. Look what KJ and Daley have been able to do with their one dimensional fight games.
Here is a link to the Saki vs Ghita fight for any one that missed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgcr6vknUfc
It's a tournament. He was on the tougher side of the bracket anyways.
I don’t see why that would be an excuse, part of tournament fighting is winning quickly while taking minimal damage. Schilt knew that last year, Roy Nelson knew it on TUF… it’s the style of competition and Alistair was the best at it this year. I can’t imagine how or why anybody would diminish this victory.
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by pdl on Dec 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t diminish it, but I wish I could have seen these guys fight each other at their best. We need to develop that slowing down time training room.
Guillotine.
The world is not Dragon Ball Z, iiowyn.
Someday, you’ll understand that. Someday…
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by kanginator10 on Dec 11, 2010 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fuck. My. Alarm.
Then again, as soon as Schilt went down, this thing was over.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:08 AM EST reply actions
Right? I was looking forward to the Schilt/Overeem final. All respect to Aerts but after the war with Schilt I was expecting Overeem to run through him.
by AintNoSunshine on Dec 11, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Cool. I was trying to find pictures, but I figured Daniel was going to be awhile before he got them all up.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 11, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
Now that he has the K-1 belt, I wonder if Alistair will consider the UFC? Earlier, he wanted the freedom to pursue a K-1 belt, but he did that tonight. Here’s hoping.
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He can fight in Strikeforce whenever he feels like visiting the US
or go to Japan and pop off a 6-figure salary whenever, too. Unless Dana throws him something like base 250k and a ppv slice, the other pasture is greener
Even GSP can't make the Princeton Tiger less of a sissy...
by Anthony Pace on Dec 11, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
He just made 400.000 dollar in a few minutes
What a job!
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I'd include thousands of hours of training, injury, travel, time away from family, and media as part of his job too.
but still……..what a job!
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Pain don't hurt...
I'd include 100 of thousands extra income besides that also.
But ofcourse, you are right!
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Post-Fight updates:
Overeem very proud of himself. Expected to meet Schilt in the finals so has lot of respect for Aerts. He is looking a little teary.
Overeem doesn’t have an opponent in mind for NYE but he wants to fight for the Dream Heavyweight Title.
Overeem has no injuries. A little big hungry though. Would like some sushi.
Expects to defend Strikeforce belt in April, May or June. Fight at Dynamite, rest in Jan then get ready for SF.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
For sure.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 11, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
awesome!
Overeem is the man!
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I hope someone makes a GIF of that spinning back headkick that Saki threw the first time and dropped Alistair. That was epic. :)
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So weird
Overeem blocked it basically, but it certainly looks like a knockdown in slow-mo…….then he gets right back up like nothing happened. Did he say anything about this in the interviews after?
Not afraid to nitpick
It looks like it just knocked him off balance.
Still sweet though.
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King Mo and Mike Kogan never need to do commentary again.
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by Damon O. on Dec 11, 2010 8:50 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, Mo was basically a fan in the booth. He didn’t contribute anything. Kogan was, at the very least, objective in some of his analysis, but he was a bit of a dick at times.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 11, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I expected a lot more from Mo. He's great at fight breakdowns, but apparently not commentary.
Kogan didn’t seem too bad, but neither said much at all..
He was watching the fights and forgot he was suppose to talk : )
by TheBiggertheyare... on Dec 11, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
What fight was it
When The Voice said, “hes taking more hits than Miley Cyrus’s bong”? That was good
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Cheick Kongo looks like a cross between Evander Holyfield and pop singer Seal!
Melvin Guilard looks like a little Kevin Randelman!
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I thought he said Michael Phelps's bong.
But I was tired, stoned and only half paying attention, so there you go.
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by RearNakedChoker on Dec 11, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
kogan is basically there cause he works for FEG. hes not a bad guy at all and has some good analysis but he isnt cut out for commentary. every time voice tries to hand it off to him he just mumbles a bit and thats it, its like he has no life in him.
by destructivist on Dec 11, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Same goes out to Schiavello from me. His screaming is really tiresome over these longer broadcasts!
But yeah, King Mo, boy was he a waste of air time. He could hardly articulate anything without sounding like a complete fool, and contributed nothing at all to the broadcast. I really hope HDNet never brings him back, it was embarrassing how terrible he was. I don’t dislike him in general or anything like that, but commentary he clearly is not fit for!
Kogan was his usual self, not much to cheer about.
by Horselover Fat on Dec 12, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
How many fights does Overeem got in SF?
Or is he “belt-bound”? Would very much like to see him in the UFC, and I think DW wants him bad. He just said he was going to focus on the HW-division didnt he? (Interview with Ariel I think)
white has wanted him bad for a while but hes an assclown and he wont let him fight in K-1. brothers got a child to feed man and “3 fights a year against the best blah blah” aint cutting it.
by destructivist on Dec 11, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
The strikeforce HW division has more to offer the Reem
UFC is more or less done if you ask me.
Mir, Lesnar, Carwin, JDS and Cain, i already know the outcome.
Strikeforce/Dream/K-1, as an Alistair fan i rather see him this way.
Let JDS and Cain come over to Strikeforce please.
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by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 9:27 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
What has Ultimate Staring Competition have
JDS and Cain, that’s it?
Still not awake after ‘the baddest man on the planet’ got exposed?
Go back to bed and sleep some more!
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
lolwut
SF has 3 dudes in their HW Div and can barely get them to fight each other.
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Unintelligent Defense, I bring Cricket bats to fist fights.
Strikeforce has the best fights for 2010 to come, face it.
UFC is done!
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
I am not interested in any of the rubber matches
of the UFC, but i like how you Americans keep believing in DW and everything he says, it’s funny!
I don’t say anything about the other division, but HW is done.
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
right, hw is done because of a division that has no fights scheduled, a champion that is going on vacation after fighting on NYE, a number 1 contender who wants to take a fight in another org first, and a former best fighter ever who is in the middle of the longest contract negotiation for someone that already has a contract on the face the planet. You’re right, it’s clearly all over.
by Phildo on Dec 11, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
There is more besides UFC
What has Overeem done this last year, do you really realize it?
1.) To start NYE last year against Fujita
2.) 04/03/2010 Dzevad Poturak
3.) 05/15/2010 Brett Rogers
4.) 10/02/2010 Ben Edwards
5.) 12/11/2010 Tyrone Spong
6.) 12/11/2010 Gokhan Saki
7.) 12/11/2010 Peter Aerts
And there is one more to be added at NYE, please go hate on Overeem and blame Strikeforce for it.
Coker understands what it means for a dutchman living his dream, we in the Netherlands don’t give a fuck about UFC or Dana White, on the other hand, we love Coker what he is doing for Overeem. K-1 is very important here, but that’s something you will never understand, it’s in our culture you know!
Go riding DW’s dick for ‘the best guys fighting each other 3 times a year’.
Overeem’s the best, after that, it’s still Fedor, no doubt!
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by Sanderman on Dec 11, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Overeem’s still got to fight the best to be proven the best. In my opinion Fedor would kick Overeem’s ass. Hell, maybe even Cain could beat him.
by nevergoasstomouth on Dec 11, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect Cain would beat him
and Fedor would have a decent shot, but I would take Reem in that fight.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Lol at "even Cain could kick his ass"
Cain would ruin Fedor and Reem inside a Minute, dont be daft
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Cain is a not yet quite as good
as GSP version of GSP. Personally, I would only put money on Jon Jones against him, and then only if he were at +150 or worse of a ’dog.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
When did i hate on overeem?
All i’m saying is that your statement that the UFC is done is completely moronic.
It¨s just as moronic as you think the UFC has anything to offer The REEM!
Nothing, nada, niente, niks, noppes, niets, nenhum pouco!
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That's because has just has beaten....
THE BADDEST MAN ON THE PLANET!
Right?
Mwoehahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You just made my day, this smile will stay for a while!
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No because
he has the skills to beat anyone.
Brock
Big Nog
Big Ben
Kongo
ect…
Reem still needs to beat a top 5 MMA fighter for me to consider him best.
right now I have Reem at #4
Cain
JDS
Fedor (I know, I know)
’Reem
BTW I hate Brock, always have, always will.
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hahaha
we can discuss this for hours but it’s totally insane that some guys from the UFC are above Fedor, Cain and Brock never fought him! Brock never was a #1 so Cain can’t be above Fedor at all.
Please tell me what happens after JDS (#5) vs Cain.
If JDS wins, is he the #1 or does Brock (# 2) takes the spot?
Or goes it back to where it belongs Fedor.
It’s not that Fedor got knocked out remember, he got caught.
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Fedor was heavily favored in that fight and will be in the rematch as well.
If JDS beats Cain and Fedor dominates Werdum, I don’t see how Fedor can be anything but #1 again.
On the other hand, if Cain beats JDS decisively, and I think he will, Cain is still #1.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor just lost.
quickly
to a guy JDS murderraped.
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by Damon O. on Dec 11, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t think he is trolling, I think he actually believes that shit. Which is sad, but also extremely hilarious.
Guillotine.
Trolled so much that he's started believe his own nonsense
Now that is high level trolling right there.
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Not everyone believes everything DW says.
You just have to look at their roster and know there are great fights. You completely ignore the reality that SF has no fights scheduled, their fighters refuse to fight, and their champ will be MIA for a while from the SF scene. You can keep holding onto your fantasy match-ups. Everyone else can stick to reality.
I feel your pain man.
But this placed is filled with…you know what.
Hypothetically cain would be an awesome test for reem but I think once he connects on anyone at this point with 4 oz gloves its over. the dude has a background in wrestling and he has a good ground game. The only HW i see really giving him problems from the UFC is JDS because he hits hard, and on SF side fedor because of the same reason, he hits hard and fast. Its not like Reem has never been dropped.
by destructivist on Dec 11, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats to him
how appropriate that he wins this and last night they played The Voice vs The Reem on HDNet
It’s almost like HDNet structured the programming a certain way…
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by Mike Fagan on Dec 11, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
So wait a minute, they put on a show promoting the guy who has done 98% of the promoting for an event they will show the same night?
OMG!
by destructivist on Dec 11, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing I would take issue here with is this line, “He’s obviously one of the biggest sports stars in Japan” He is obviously nothing of the sort. If I went in to my work place of 1,200 people in Osaka tomorrow, I would be sincerely surprised if 1% of them knew who Allistair Overeem was. If I pointed out that he was the large fellow who won K-1 over the weekend that number might rise to 3%. He is nowhere near as famous as Satoshi Ishii., not to mention Mao Asada or Yu Darvish. He isn’t even as famous as Akebono or Hakuho. He is certainly nowhere near as famous as Genki Sudo or Masato, but they are retired. I would wager he isn’t even as famous as the last relief pitcher on the bench for the Giants. I am not just saying this to be a pill, but to illustrate how far kakutogi has fallen out of the Japanese consciousness and how Americans and others overseas go on pretending that just because something is from a Japanese arena and on their TV that even a small percentage of Japan at large cares about it. That is important. Why? Because of that fact, all of this is in danger of drying up because it is not on the front burner anymore. Allistair Overeem is almost as big a deal in Japan as that terrible girl group that preformed in the ring, which is to say, not at all.
Is Kenya maeda as good a pitcher as his numbers say? I’d love to be able to watch some Japanese baseball
by hexbreaker on Dec 11, 2010 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting. If you could be our man in Japan and tell us what you think has to happen for mma in Japan. Can Dream or any Japanese promotion get back what they had? Do they need to get away from mass appeal and focus on hardcore fans? Maybe ppv? Can the UFC succeed in this environment? Inquiring minds want to know.
by John Nash on Dec 11, 2010 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wish I had the answers
Japanese TV is a strange beast. It is fickle, but this doesn’t come from the people watching. TV in Japan is completely top down. If the big-ups decided they wanted kakutogi to have a big go of it and put the fighters on the chat shows,which drive TV and pop-culture here, then fighting sports would be huge here again. Ishii gets on these shows so he is famous. Naito and the Kamedas do sometimes too, so they are famous. Ten years ago it was Andy Huug and Kakuta and the like. If people don’t know them already here, people won’t watch them. It is sad, but that is reality. K-1 and Dream being able to keep going relies on having wealthy patrons who want them to continue.
Ur righthe isnt as famous as Soto, Akebono and Genki
But ur comparing him to Legends of their respected sports and also home turf fighters that have been exposed in Japan in a whole different level. Its almost insulting how u compare Overeem to Akebono and Ishi when Ishi is a Olympic gold medalist and Akebono a all time great in their national sport, Sumo.
But forget that and lets assume ur right with the 3%. Now how much is 3% out of 130 million…thats almost 4 million people who know Overeem, thats a lot of people my friend.
And if you dont know, now you know..... !
Insulting or not
As I said, my only issue is with the statement “He’s obviously one of the biggest sports stars in Japan.” While he is obviously not. Am I not supposed to then compare him to other sports stars? It was not my assertion, and I would have made many caveats around it, as you have. The author didn’t say, “Among non-legends of their sport, not competing on home turf and not having won Olympic gold medals nor being a sumo rikishi, Overeem is one of the biggest sports stars in Japan.” But he isn’t that either. I was being giving with the 3% estimation, but even if that figure were true, that 3% of my workplace might recognize my description of “The big foreigner who one K-1 this weekend” it would be a passing knowledge and not any kind of fandom. I wish this wasn’t the state of kakutogi in Japan right now, but it is. It is a very limited audience as it is receiving very little backing from the larger TV universe, which is everything in Japan.
I totally agree with what ur sayin,
but u can’t take those statements to heart, i mean even Joe Rogan says a lot of outrageous comment during fights that are totally off, but no one seems to care. Ok i understand he works for the UFC and therefpre he hypes the fights, BE reporter don’t work for a promotion, so i can settle with that. But still we shouldn’t take those statements to heart.
And if you dont know, now you know..... !
Just tell me he's more popular than Hong Man Choi
And I’ll be happy.
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If only he’d defend his other belt more often
by nevergoasstomouth on Dec 11, 2010 11:37 AM EST reply actions
Juat watched the matches this morning
Awesome Run by Alistair. I can’ wait for him to be in the UFC.
Waitwait… do you watch the same fights? Where rd 1 he illegal clinched his way to a victory in a fight he was losing…then kicked a dude who was absolutely brutalized by body shots for 4 rounds, then beat a 40 yr old man who quit after one punch who was also tenderized the previous fight?…
Seriously? Reem looked bad. He had a right hook and a knee…
by hexbreaker on Dec 11, 2010 12:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It’s called kickboxing, Aerts is also a 40 year old man that took out one of the best kickboxers in the world.
hope you get banned.
I agree. Serfs looked very good. But reems striking isn’t great cuz he destroyed a 40 yr old who was just in a 4 round war. That’s all.
by hexbreaker on Dec 11, 2010 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True. The fights are meaningless and only the title matters. My bad.
by hexbreaker on Dec 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
do you know a LW that can beat him?
A.O. The Best Kickboxer.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hasnt MegaReem already beat Aerts in '09?
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Answer: Yes
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As far as the muay thai plum complaints go, he never even got a clean knee shot off them, so it doesn’t even matter.
Part of winning a fight is your gameplan and being able to pace yourself through a one night tournament. It’s not Alistairs fault that Saki thought a good gameplan would be to trade kicks with Ghita like he was in a fuckin Van Damme movie.
Saki def was dumb with his gameplan. That ghita fight was fun tho. But the article suggests Reel showcased great stand up. Which he arguably did not.
by hexbreaker on Dec 11, 2010 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So if that was an MMA match in the US, and reem was throwing knee’s to the head of a downed opponent, but non landed clean, then its not an issue?
This would have been a better victory for Overeem if he hadn’t kept breaking the rules in his fight with sponge, and it was even worse that the ref warned him twice, AND would point and say don’t do that when he kept doing it.
by TheBiggertheyare... on Dec 11, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Alistair Who?
So Reem beats up a 70-year old and all of a sudden he’s god’s gift to MMA? Please, let’s look at the facts. Who was the last competitive fighter he’s faced? Anyone remember when he fought in Pride, against real MMA fighters? He got KO’d cold by light heavy weights. Yes, Shogun rocks, but he’s in a lower weight class.
Yes, it’d be nice to see some legitimate fighters outside the UFC not named Fedor, but let’s be patient. Reem’s definitely not the guy.
In their second fight, Shogun rocked him with his GNP; he took him down because he was getting his ass kicked on his feet. Same thing in their first fight, iirc. Shogun was getting worked over on his feet so he switched his game plan, kept pushing the pace and eventually broke Reem on the ground. Alistair has pretty much always been a bad ass on his feet. Shogun is a master game planner and is extremely intelligent and just all around awesome at MMA.
I think Reem may be such an overwhelming force on his feet at this point that the only fighters that have any hope are wrestlers. CV is a scary fight for Reem though. I think he would steamroll dos santos. I dont’ think anyone in SF should be favored to beat him, Fedor included, although I would have that fight at close to even.
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by The Darkness on Dec 11, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
idk
Fedor’s looping bombs would get him in a shit load of trouble with MegaReem. I love Fedor but I don’t see That fight playing out well for him.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Overeem was also KO’d standing by Kharitonov, while he ran from him
by TheBiggertheyare... on Dec 11, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
chuck dropped him too
But A.O. was winning the stand up previous to that exchange.
Alistair’s body wasn’t made for light heavy. The cut was too much for him. He isn’t the same fighter he was, he’s better.
Also your chin improves when you’re not dehydrated and your neck muscles are larger and stronger.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 2:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that was like 7 years ago
back when Reem was cutting down to 205.
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dude, i know.
I kinda said that. Did you read my post?
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I did
but you didn’t mention how long ago that was.
Plus Reem was hurt from a previous fight in the tourny……but Chuck mos def took that fight over.
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I think he gassed in the fight too but could be wrong. Over the years, he’s improved to the point where he’s a terrifying stand up fighter. His ground game is good as well. The only question mark is his TDD; I don’t recall his fighting any wrestlers lately.
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by The Darkness on Dec 11, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
He gassed badly in the first, that’s when the tide turned.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
can't see anyone
except for Cain giving him real trouble. I would take Reem over any other HW, Fedor included.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor has probably the best chin in MMA. That is a huge part of his success, he has taken some blows that would crumble most. Reem would probably hit him the hardest he has been hit but Fedor can hit back. His casting punch is perfect for a fighter like Reem. It keeps him distant till he strikes and even if Reem shrugs it off Fedor is in position to clinch and go to the ground. Fedor gets Reem to the ground and we will see how much of a gas tank Reem really has.
If Fedor gets Reem to the ground, I’ll be more shocked by that than the fact that they’re actually fighting.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, no reason a multi- world Sambo champ and Judo black belt would be able to take him down. Crazy, I know.
Have you ever watch Fedor fight?
Ignore the troll.
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by andrew861 on Dec 11, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s 5’11 and 229. Every takedown I’ve seen from Fedor – and I’ve watched every fight of his – comes from a body lock, not a shot. I don’t think he’s going to be able to take Overeem down.
The reason that fight will never happen is because it would be utter domination by Alistair.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
The first one is a shot – I’ll give you taht. The second is a body lock throw and much more commonly used by him. I don’t think he can take Alistair down.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
He uses that punch to set up a take down all the time. It’s a classic Sambo casting punch that is used to either k.o. a guy or get in tight for a clinch. Since when did Alistair become a master of take down defense?
It makes me wonder what you are watching sometimes. Fedor could absolutely take him down.
Alistar has a deadly clinch.
I really wanna see them fight. Just like everyone else in the world who doesnt work for M1 global.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
M-1 isn’t standing in the way of them fighting. They could have fought this fall. Alistair wanted to go do K-1 and now it is even better that he did.
Alistair’s MT clinch is sick. I don’t care who you are, Fedor, Brock, Cain, Werdum, if you get caught in that you got trouble.
I hope they fight soon.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
both are body locks with casting punch leads.
not that it really matters
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, he uses the punch to get in tight for the take down, whether he connects or not. That is what the casting punch is designed to do. It’s a powerful punch and he throws it like no one else. It’s kind of like Mo’s cutter. You know it’s coming but it doesn’t matter.
its its also the reason Fedor has broke his hand in every fight.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. It’s a crazy punch and his hand has been a mess for years. Since 2003. But, it still works.
His hands have probably gotten heavier due to all the pins they have had to put into them over the years.
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by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
So a Werdum triangle is like being lowered into a pool of molten iron?
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Dec 11, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
You are talking about things with zero relevance in modern MMA, back when Reem was a 23-25 year old LHW.
That’s like looking at Anderson’s losses to Chonan and Takase and trying to extract some meaning for today. Even though Silva was 27-29 when that happened.
Means less than nothing today, especially considering the evolution in Reems game and the problems he had from the cut back then.
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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
K-1 got rid of the clinch and knee, which was Megareems go to move and he still won. Too bad K-1 does not really show who the best strikers are any more, it just water down Muay Thai now. In a few years guys in K-1 might not even be better than top mma strikers with a muay thai backround.
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Overeem showed that he still has a susceptible chin, and his opponent needs to take the fight to him to have success. Even though he’s greatly improved his striking, and is a massive heavyweight now, it still just takes one punch to drop him.
suspect chin?
Getting hit by a left hook by a 105kg professional kickboxer in the jaw counts as a ‘suspect chin’? You sir must be a very wise man.
by King Koopa on Dec 11, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He has 6 losses by TKO on his record, some of them stone cold KO’s in addition to a loss to Arona by submission to punches. Alistair has always had a suspect chin. His addition of 300lbs of muscle doesn’t really change that.
by dreamers_12345 on Dec 11, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
At what speed did the truck hit you?
My god, you must be insane!
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
What Overeem has done is no doubt impressive...
…but I think you’re kind of overstating the case here in terms of how the event went, as well as being guilty of some serious overwriting when describing the fights.
I like Overeem, and being a two sport champion is an AMAZING achievement. I just think it could have been conveyed a bit better here without so much hyperbole.
Might just be me though.
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by Jack.Barrington on Dec 11, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions
Well
You can’t really say Reem can’t take a punch after those shots from a buffed up Spong in round one.
I doubt anybody on earth could stop the demo man!
by DoubleHeadedEagle on Dec 11, 2010 1:11 PM EST reply actions
True!
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Overeem vs Hari 3 is going to be HUGE...
…when it happens.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Dec 11, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions
i am looking forward to that.
"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That could be the launching-point for It's Showtime! to take over Europe
Even GSP can't make the Princeton Tiger less of a sissy...
by Anthony Pace on Dec 11, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Is the K-1/FEG salary that much better than Srtikeforce for Overeem?
I’’m just curious since you hear more about American mixed martial arts payouts and fighters working for DREAM like Bibiano Fernandes, Gary Goodridge and Gegard Mousasi have all trouble getting paid.
He just made 400.000 dollar
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Jeez.
Just finished watching the finals and fuck the Reem looked ferocious. When Spong tagged him I was hoping he would deflate like a balloon before our eyes but he just got stronger after that first round. I can’t stand the guy but I have to give him huge props for fulfilling a major career goal. Now, hopefully, he will het his horse meat lovin ass here to the States and be a MMA fighter. He’s achieved his K-1 goals, now it’s time to face some of the best MMA heavyweights. Congrats, The Reem.
by memitim on Dec 11, 2010 2:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree
I think the best thing for Reem’s MMA career is him checking that K-1 title box off his to-do list.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. No more bullshit. He should fight at least two or three times in the US in 2011. No reason not to.
I agree totally
At this point, the only realistic goals should be to beat Werdum and Fedor, and then, if their HW division has strengthened (or Cain has stayed unbeaten), possibly look to move to the UFC.
Honestly though, if Barnett comes back strong (he was the #2 HW when he was set to meet Fedor) and the prospects develop (Cormier and Del Rossario in particular), I’m not sure it makes sense to leave the freedom SF allows to move to the UFC, unless Cain is still unbeaten and there are some serious looking other guys.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, UFC doesn’t really offer the same competition at HW. Especially if JDS beats Cain, which I think he will, things will get very muddy over in that division. Reem has two losses to avenge in SF against Werdum and Kharitonov. Throw in Fedor and Barnett in the mix. He has work to do without going to the UFC to face who exactly?
I think it is highly unlikely JDS beats an MMA Wrestler on Cain’s level.
As for the losses to avenge, when they are so many years and pounds ago, I doubt they cross his mind, although Werdum is conveniently the #1 contender.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Werdum wasn’t terribly long ago and it was a HW fight. They have both been talking about it.
I like Cain a lot. But, I just don’t think he has faced a striker with the power and accuracy of JDS. And I guarantee JDS is working this whole time, since he beat Nelson, on his wrestling and BJJ, overall ground game and he is learning from some of the best in Black House.
When are they scheduling that fight? What’s the hold up?
It was almost 4 1/2 years ago (May 2006)
And yes, it was at HW, but during the time Overeem fought as a LHW, but because it was an open weight situation, he didn’t have to cut. He was 226-228 IIRC.
Meaningless as far as projecting to today.
I thought Cain-JDS was rumored to be set already, although I don’t recall when. TDD against an elite MMA wrestler can’t be learned by a non-wrestler without years of wrestling training. Mark my words, JDS will be put on his ass early and often.
Unless Cain foolishly chooses to stand and bang with JDS, this will be a far more one-sided fight than most imagine. Bet on it.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. You’re right. I flip flopped the Kharitonov win with the Werdum win. My bad. The Kharitonov win was when the Reem was established at HW and close to the 3 year window.
As far as JDS is concerned I believe he is a brown belt under Nog for BJJ. By the time fight night comes I would think he will move up a level. I love Cain’s technique. But, I will take the killer striker with solid BJJ over the top level wrestler with strong GnP any day of the week. I just believe in that style for MMA.
by memitim on Dec 12, 2010 2:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
NO ONE MAN SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT POWER
Even GSP can't make the Princeton Tiger less of a sissy...
by Anthony Pace on Dec 11, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
I love Zuffa Zombies.
They are so biased and hateful to anything that isn’t the UFC that they will disparage an entire sport to try to say that Overeem is no good.
Yet, before Lesnar’s bubble was burst they would quickly factor in his NCAA accomplishments and fights against lesser fighters without betting an eye.
Reem ftw!
by DoubleHeadedEagle on Dec 11, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
This.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Batting an eye. Sorry I was looking at my bets tonight haha.
by DoubleHeadedEagle on Dec 11, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Other than Min Soo Kim, Brock has never had an easy fight at HW. All Overeem has had at HW in MMA are easy fights.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Brock has faced a tough schedule for one with so little experience
But Carwin and Randy are equivalent to Rogers and Cro Cop (considering when he fought Cro Cop).
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's absolutely insane.
Carwin had back to back victories over Gonzaga and Mir. Rogers touched AA’s chin.
Randy > Cro Cop historically in terms of big fights won at HW, and Overeem didn’t beat Cro Cop.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
he beat Cro Crop like Jon Jones beat hamil
"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Jon Jones lost to Matt Hamill. You don’t get a win when the last thing you hit the guy with was an illegal blow.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you, the athletic commissions and wikipedia say on the matter.
However I saw the fight, Matt and Cro Cop were beaten. they GOT BEAT LIKE THEY WAS STEALIN’ CHICKENS. Reem and Bones didnt get W’s but they beat they other guys.
See the thing is I am a fan of martial arts and fighting. You are a fan of the UFC and the game of MMA . I dont need judges or Steve Mazzagati to tell me who won. I just watch the fight.
"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s easier to just say “I am a true fan and you’re not” at the intro – lets people know to just skip the rest of the post.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
So if Koschek pulls a knife and stabs GSP in the cage, would you come spouting off about how Koschek totally beat GSP in MMA?
Guillotine.
No
But if Kos took GSP down 30 seconds into round one, broke his shoulder, mounted him and then rained punches and elbows down on him way past when it should be stopped, GSP was semi-conscious and then got hit with 2 12-6 elbows and was suddenly given a DQ loss while GSP had to be carried off, then yes, I would say he won by any real measure of fighting.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
If you saw the fight
You know it was equally or even more one-sided than Jones-Hammill. Cro Cop didn’t land a single effective strike and was dominated like he never had been on the feet and on the ground for almost 10 minutes before the stoppage.
There is very little separation between Rogers and Carwin if we’re being honest about it, and this will be a far more widely held view if JDS or Cain dominates and KTFO of Carwin when they meet.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
No way.
Carwin stuffed/whizzered his way out of a Brock Lesnar takedown and had never been out of the first round before, finishing Gonzaga and Mir with strikes. Carwin would flat out merc Rogers, and has a more impressive resume.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for WatchKalibRun.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yo man, you're such a UFC troll i swear.
Is it so hard for you to believe there is good fighters that are not in the UFC?
You lose all credibility when you are so obviusly biased.
Rogers vs Carwin would be a toss up and either of them could land that one punch KO shot.
Their record are definitely comparable and Rogers has faced the better and stiffer competition. The world doesn’t revolve around UFC. Get over it.
Let’s face it, Brock’s toughest challenge was Cain and Carwin. Herring was 2-2 in the UFC at the time he fought him and was clearly on his way down, not to mention he was replacing Mark Coleman. We haven’t seen Herring since. Couture is always a great name to fight but at the time he fought Brock he was pretty much ready to go to LHW and was coming off more than a year layoff. Now, Reem has a ton to prove but Brock has just as much to prove to me at this point as well. His bubble burst big.
Brock has – without question, debate or a doubt – proven more in MMA’s HW division that Overeem has. Debating that is like debating the color of the sky.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Where do you live?
In Alaska the sky is blue.
In LA the sky is grey.
"God bless....God."
Semper Fi'
Pain don't hurt...
In LA, the shit between you and the sky is gray.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for WatchKalibRun.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Where exactly does the sky begin?
Is the sky actually blue, or is that just how we perceive it?
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
You’ve got to make this conversation pretty damn metaphysical to compare Brock’s MMA HW resume to Overeem’s.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Never underestimate my ability to get all abstract up in this bitch.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
by TheFilt on Dec 11, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And now Brock is a huge question mark, just like Reem. Their momentum are in two different directions right now.
Well
Vitor is getting a title shot and Overeem beat him twice.
by DoubleHeadedEagle on Dec 11, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but that was ages ago when he was just Overeem, before he turned into Ubereem. Since he has been Ubereem we haven’t seen truly tested. We have seen Brock tested and what resulted was break dancing fool. It will be interesting to see what their future MMA careers are like. They are both undefinable and a question mark to me right now.
Since he has been Ubereem we haven’t seen truly tested
And at long last, you grasp the point.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Like that is the first time I said that? I have always said that The Reem is completely unproven against the upper tier of MMA HW’s. Brock on the other hand just face two of them and a huge, glaring weakness was exposed and exploited. He is a fighter who is afraid to get hit. That’s a pretty big phobia for a MMA fighter to have and as long as guys like Cain and JDS are at the top of the division, he is below them. It’s a huge question mark if he will ever see the top of the division again. Whereas Reem still has to show his weaknesses in this new bodily carnation against elite fighters. I think they will be exposed. Brock’s already has.
by memitim on Dec 11, 2010 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brock
Will likely get crushed by Carwin, should they rematch.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Derek
You are soooo funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hfZqbZtT6E
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Take a breather
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A perfect week.
On monday, my first child was born.
On saturday, Ubereem won the K-1 WGP.
I want to see Megareem fight a F-150.
Keep Firing, Assholes!
Time to put some meat in your pain sandwich.
WHat do you have against fords???
A statement like that tells me you are a chevy or dodge guy.
"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Is it weird that this turns me on everytime?
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Only if you imagine yourself in place of the girl.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 11, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
She fought the takedown more effectively than Brett Rogers did against Alistair.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
this video supports Mike Meyers take on the dutch.
"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What exactly did you read from that? :P
Its a TV show called ‘things that suck’.
"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"
Awesome work by the Reem.
Its truly an impressive achievement to hold title belts in two different sports.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
WTF is going on in this post?
Much Congratulations to Overeem. Incredible night. Glad I stayed up.
Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. - Bruce Lee
Stayed up watching this until 6am, got 3 hrs of sleep, then went to work.
and it was worth it.
I can’t wait for Saki to heal up and fight again.
Blood is just red sweat.
by invinciblearmour. on Dec 11, 2010 5:30 PM EST reply actions
Daily Calorie Intake
I wonder how many calories The Reem needs daily to maintain his physique.
I remember reading that Michael Phelps needs 12, 000 calories a day. I bet Overeem is twice that.
This many calories:
"A guy in Texas came up to me and told me ‘Frye you're not mixed martial arts, you're no holds barred’, and I said you're god damn right partner." ~ Don Frye
Subo and KidThunder getting owned
This is a late entry for comment section of the year.
by IRodC on Dec 11, 2010 7:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dude. Congrats to Overeem for winning the GP – that’s hard to do, and Aerts is a legend. But the fact that he also happens to hold a meaningless – and I do mean meaningless – MMA trinket belt that he’s defended a total of once in over 24 months means nothing to me.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for WatchKalibRun.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
belts are all just jewelery.
Its who you fight and how you win that matter.
"I wish Anthony Pace was my father just so I could claim to be the fruit of his loins."
"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
by the-gentle-way on Dec 11, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, acknowledging that the UFC belt is by far the hardest one to get. Overeem got his by beating Paul Buentello and defended it against a Brett Rogers coming off of a loss.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry to hear it doesn’t pass the ultimate test, impressing Subo.
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I think it’s hysterical that the same people that say Brock hasn’t impressed them want Overeem ranked higher. Their accomplishments in the HW division of MMA don’t belong in the same paragraph.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW
IMO he doesn’t deserve to be ranked higher, but he is the best HW in the world.
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See, that's perfectly defendable
You can have him as the guy you’d choose if aliens came down to Earth and demanded we send forth our best heavyweight fighter (I’d probably pick Cain today, but it’s up in the air) – but that’s not how rankings work, and his (impressive) K-1 success doesn’t and shouldn’t have any bearing on his MMA rank. I’m genuinely excited to see him kill Werdum and retire Fedor and then sign with the UFC, but he hasn’t done it yet and doesn’t seem to be in a hurry to do so.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for WatchKalibRun.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
YOU CAN USE HIS K-1 TIME TO RANK HIM IN MMA!
Due to this he is NOT the number one heavy weight in MMA.
Despite your caps
I don’t think you understood at all what I wrote.
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Agreed
Much like Jon Jones is the best LHW, although I couldn’t defend ranking him number 1. Yet.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
An undersized Sponge, a severly hurt Saki and a totally gassed beat up old Aerts.
Congrats Overeem, but he really didn’t look that good to me. Saki was lighting him up with one arm.
Also, what was with the ref not taking a point when he kept using the two handed plum to land knees?
The ref just kept pointing at him. WTF was that?
I would get mad about that, but it’s a stupid fucking rule and the less it’s enforced, the better. That said, I imagine Semmy would’ve been docked.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
Contributor for WatchKalibRun.com
Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 11, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Its only a foul
If he doesn’t let go just before the knee connects.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
-Mark Twain
"If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting. If I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying..."
-Bruce Lee
by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
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