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UFC 124: St-Pierre vs. Koscheck Predictions

UFC 124: "St. Pierre vs. Koscheck 2"
Saturday, Dec. 11, 2010, at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV)
Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Main card:


Georges St. Pierre vs. Josh KoscheckGsp_koscheck_medium

Luke Thomas: It's hard to argue since their last fight Koscheck has made up the skill difference. This fight being 5 rounds and Koscheck's improved offensive efficiency changes matters slightly, but not enough for The Villain of the Day. St. Pierre by TKO.

Kid Nate: Koscheck has a very real chance to win this fight. He hits incredibly hard and he might be able to control GSP positionally. But GSP is just too good and mostly, too smart for Koscheck. Koscheck can't phase shift at all. He's either striking or wrestling, not both. GSP by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: Josh Koscheck is absolutely right. He is a better fighter now than when they first met. Then again, so is Georges St. Pierre. Is it possible Koscheck wins? Sure. He does hit fairly hard, he does have good wrestling. But I just don't see it as a reliable result that happens very often. Georges is just so much better as an overall fighter and he probably can win this fight wherever he wants. Georges St. Pierre by decision.

Mike Fagan: Koscheck is a better fighter than he was in 2007, but his striking still follows a predictable pattern: jab, overhand right. He'll throw in a head kick, too. And he still jumps in. And he still closes his eyes when he throws. Koscheck is one tough son of a bitch, and my sense for schadenfreude will be rooting for him, but I don't see this being any different than Georges' past title defenses or the first fight they had at UFC 74. Georges St-Pierre by decision.

Leland Roling:
I think Josh has disadvantages in every area of this fight. He can be outwrestled, technically beaten on the feet, and outlasted by St. Pierre. Over five rounds, Koscheck will gas and St. Pierre won't. But I'm a gambler, and I'm going to bank on Koscheck finding a home for a stiff overhand that puts St. Pierre down for the count. Call me crazy, but I'm going against the grain. Josh Koscheck via K-O!

Anton Tabuena: Koscheck won't be able to stop the takedowns, and I think St-Pierre will get him down early and often. After he wears him down, I think GSP will stand up with him, and finish on the later rounds. Georges St-Pierre by TKO


Thiago Alves vs. John HowardAlves_howard_medium

Luke Thomas: This style match-up is juuuust bad enough for Howard that he'll hang on for a while only to be eventually stopped by Alves' defensive wrestling, ostensibly improved cardio and punishing muay Thai. Alves by KO.

Kid Nate: This is a come back fight for Alves barring some awful weight cut issues. I wouldn't want to be Howard's thighs the day after the fight. Alves by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: John Howard simply isn't that good. Thiago Alves is really damn good. That's pretty much the end of the story here. Thiago Alves by TKO, round 1.

Mike Fagan: Howard escaped the TUF 10 Finale with a knockout over Dennis Hallman, and Jake Ellenberger beat his face into looking like ET at UFC on Versus 2. Since his UFC debut, Thiago Alves has lost to Georges St-Pierre and Jon Fitch. As long as Alves wins his fight with the scale, Thiago Alves by TKO, round 2.

Leland Roling:
Alves' stand-up is worlds better than anything Howard can offer, and his leg kicks are going to take the wind out of Howard's sails early. From there, it's lights out. Thiago Alves via KO.

Anton Tabuena: Howard will stand with Alves thinking he has the advantage here, but he will find out that's a huge mistake. Thiago Alves by TKO


Jim Miller vs. Charles OliveiraMiller_oliveira_medium

  Luke Thomas: I'm going to go with the upset here. I don't think Oliveira is the second coming of Jesus as some do. But he'll be competitive in every place where Miller can do damage. Eventually he's going to catch him or score enough points to win. Oliveira by decision.

Kid Nate: This is the second best match up on this card by such a wide margin it's not even funny.  Miller is gritty and combines wrestling and subs very well. Oliveira has a wave of hype and a knack for mixing Muay Thai and BJJ. This comes down to whether or not you buy the Oliveira hype. I'm not there yet. Miller by decision.

Brent Brookhouse: Miller is just too gritty and has too many tricks up his sleeve for Oliveira. This isn't the end of the road for Charles, but it will be a setback. Jim Miller by decision.

Mike Fagan: This is the most interesting and relevant fight on the card, in my opinion. Miller is going to beat a lot of UFC 155ers with his wrestling, espcially in a three-round fight. But I'm a sucker for blue-chip prospects, and Oliveira's speed and superlative skills have me fawning. Charles Oliveira by submission, round 2.

Leland Roling:
Tough call here, but I think Miller is going to prove why he's one of the best fighters in the division by smothering Oliveira in wrestling and avoiding submissions. Jim Miller via decision.

Anton Tabuena: After this, we will see where Oliveira stands in the division. Is he headed for contendership, or is he still a young prospect with a very bright future? I'm leaning towards the latter. Jim Miller by Decision.


Sean McCorkle vs. Stefan StruveStruve_mccorkle_medium

Luke Thomas: McCorkle has a puncher's chance and Struve will blow a fight with unwieldy aggression even when he's ahead. If these two fought 100 times, Struve would be the winner 60% of the time. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Struve by TKO.

Kid Nate: I have to go with the fighter I see having more upside. Struve is 22 years old. He's only going to get better. McCorkle is already 34 and at or past his athletic peak. Struve by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: I'm a huge fan of Stefan Struve, but he needs to learn to fight tall. He never keeps opponents at a distance with his reach and he never punishes them when they try to get inside his long limbs. McCorkle has faced basically no competition at all during his MMA career and he has never been pushed at 265 and I just don't know that I can trust him to handle better competition at a weight that is still new to him. A McCorkle win wouldn'st shock me, but I just can't see it. Stefan Struve by TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: I let my thoughts be known. I don't even know who to pick. I watched McCorkle insta-sub Mark Hunt and dominate two guys more comparable to turtles than MMA fighters. Struve, despite what Mike Goldberg will tell you, fights like he wishes he wasn't born to be 7-feet tall. He should model himself after Semmy Schilt, but instead allows shorter men like Roy Nelson and Paul Buentello to get in range and land punches to his head. I'll take Struve on youth and experience, but I'm not happy about it. Stefan Struve by TKO, round 1.

Leland Roling:
I can't believe this is a co-main event fight. Stefan Struve via submission.

Anton Tabuena: Struve is relatively easy to hit and takes a lot of unnecessary damage every fight, but that being said, I still think he still stops McCorkle early. Stefan Struve by TKO.


Ricardo Almeida vs. T.J. Grant

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Luke Thomas: I bet you Grant comes close to winning this, only falling short just barely. Almeida by decision.

Kid Nate: I've becoem a big T.J. Grant fan but he's one of those guys who relies on having a grappling edge and that won't be the case here. Almeida by submission.

Brent Brookhouse: Grant is decent but he's got nowhere that he is a better fighter than Almeida. Ricardo Almeida by decision.

Mike Fagan: I guess Almeida's the other side of the McCorkle coin, going from a featured bout to the prelims in the span of one card. It will be interested to see if the Hughes loss takes anything out of him mentally. Still, he should be better than Grant. Should. Ricardo Almeida by decision.

Leland Roling: I think Almeida is the better grappler overall, and his stand-up might actually be better than anything Grant can offer. Ricardo Almeida via decision.

Anton Tabuena: Almeida is just the better fighter. Ricardo Almeida by Decision

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Under card (May not be broadcast):

Joe Stevenson vs. Mac Danzig

Luke Thomas: Danzig's going to get outwrestled and grappled en route to a dismissal from the big show. Stevenson by submission.

Kid Nate: Joe Daddy is going to be way too much for Danzig. Too much wrestling. Too hard hitting. Too much Greg Jackson in the corner. Joe Stevenson by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: I just don't see this as a winable fight for Danzig. He's not going to be able to push forward on Stevenson standing and he's likely to spend a lot of time on his back where he isn't going to catch any submissions. Joe Stevenson by decision.

Mike Fagan: Danzig reminds me of Martin Kampmann. He's really technical and I love watching him fight, but he has a tendency to get bullied around. If he can cut the weight, I think he'd find more success at 145. Stevenson's had his troubles at 155 too, but he's faced a different level of competition than Danzig. Joe Stevenson by decision.

Leland Roling:
Mac Danzig's streak of disappointment continues. Joe Stevenson via decision.

Anton Tabuena: I love Danzig's photography, but that won't help him stop Joe's wrestling. Joe Stevenson by Decision.


Mark Bocek vs. Dustin Hazelett

Luke Thomas: Hazelett is going to be sucked out from dropping to lightweight and Bocek is a better grappler anyway. Bocek by decision.

Kid Nate: Bocek is the better grappler, but Hazelett is HUGE for lightweight and should be able to beat him up on the feet. Hazelett by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: Hazelett has flashy jiu-jitsu but against really technical guys like Bocek I don't think he's going to find any success. Mark Bocek by decision.

Mike Fagan: Bocek's will have the home crowd, he's more acclimated at the weight class, and his wrestling is much better than Hazelett's. Mark Bocek by decision.

Leland Roling:
Bocek is probably going to put Hazelett out of a job here, but I'll bank on Hazelett using some Brazilian jiu-jitsu wizardry to surprise Bocek. Dustin Hazelett via submission.

Anton Tabuena: Hazelett is longer and is the better striker. I think he hurts him standing, then finishes with a submission. Dustin Hazelett by Submission


Matthew Riddle vs. Sean Pierson

Luke Thomas: I don't think much of Pierson at this point. Riddle should dispatch of him. Riddle by TKO.

Kid Nate: Pierson is going to be battling Octagon jitters in his UFC debut and Riddle is over that but Pierson is a better wrestler and a good striker. Pierson by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: Riddle is improving rapidly and he's going to be far more than Pierson can handle. Matt Riddle by TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: I wonder if Riddle is the only fighter with more than 5 fights to his name that have all been in the UFC. Don't really care about this, but I'll take Matt Riddle by decision.

Leland Roling:
I had Pierson winning this in my preview, but I'm changing my tune. Riddle has proven he can outwrestle some solid wrestlers, and Pierson, while being a very good wrestler in his own right, will have problems dealing with that while getting punched. Matt Riddle via decision.

Anton Tabuena: Matt Riddle will probably take another decision here.



Jesse Bongfeldt vs. Rafael Natal

Luke Thomas: Bongfeldt is a bit of scrapper and is going to be hard for someone like Natal to put him away. I like Bongfeldt here for sure. Bongfeldt by decision.

Kid Nate: Bongfeldt submitted T.J. Grant in their pre-UFC days so that's impressive and Natal fights really sloppy. If Bongfeldt's year long layoff doesn't ruin him, he should win. Bongfeldt by decision.

Brent Brookhouse: I really don't know here. I guess I'm going to go the safe route. Rafael Natal by decision.

Mike Fagan: As someone with an unfortunate surname, I feel for Jesse. That said, Natal is lethal on clay. Decisions, decisions. Rafael Natal by decision.

Leland Roling:
I haven't been impressed with Natal at all since his rise to the top of the prospect heap. Bongfeldt is by no means a world beater, but his powerful wrestling should give Natal problems. Jesse Bongfeldt via decision.

Anton Tabuena: Natal isn't all great, but he should be able to pick up a victory here. Rafael Natal by Submission


Joe Doerksen vs. Dan Miller

Luke Thomas: Dan Miller should absolutely body Doerksen at this point. I respect Joe's durability and grit, but he's not on the level. Miller by decapitating guillotine.

Kid Nate: Doerksen is a journeyman's journeyman. He's tough as all get out. He's well rounded. He's also going to get outwrestled by Dan Miller and lose. Miller by decision.

Brent Brookhouse: Doerksen is just good enough to lose to guys like Miller. Dan Miller by decision.

Mike Fagan: Man. Sonnen, Maia, Bisping is a pretty lethal back-to-back-to-back. This should be a fight Miller can win. Dan Miller by decision.

Leland Roling:
Doerksen should provide some challenges for Miller, but I think Miller is the overall better fighter. Dan Miller via decision.

Anton Tabuena: Miller will make it to the PPV broadcast. Dan Miller by Submission


John Makdessi vs. Pat Audinwood

Luke Thomas: I bet Makdessi ends it on the feet before Audinwood can sub him. Makdessi by TKO.

Kid Nate: Makdessi trains with GSP and he's got some decent striking. Audinwood is a submission guy, but no BJJ world champ. Makdessi by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse: In the spirit of going against the grain here. I'd like to see John Makdessi get the win because I like strikers, but I think he'll get taken down in a flurry and end up submitted. Pat Audinwood by submission, round 2.

Mike Fagan: I was secretly hoping Kid Nate wouldn't notice that he left this off the predictions document. John Makdessi by decision.

Leland Roling:
Makdessi's kickboxing skills should impress a few fans on Saturday. He has a heavy propensity to throw spinning back kicks however, and Audinwood may take advantage. But I think Makdessi's power and solid takedown defense should earn him the win on the feet. Makdessi via TKO.

Anton Tabuena: Awesomely Awesome Audinwood could make this interesting. Pat Audinwood by Decision

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Miller/Oliviera

The betting odds have Jim Miller as an underdog. I saw it at +110. How can you not take that bet?

by Jay Bittner on Dec 10, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

when joe daddy vs danzig became an undercard?

this fight was even on the countdown!

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by DK_Monster on Dec 10, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

Standings

Leland: 143-79
Nate: 135-94
Nick: 134-65
Fagan: 130-99
Luke: 126-92
Nelson: 122-75
Brent: 121-72
Snowden: 53-51
Rome: 39-30

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by Tim Burke on Dec 10, 2010 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

Winning percentage

Nick 67.3
Leland 64.4
Brent 62.7
Nelson 61.9
Nate 59.0
Luke 57.8
Fagan 56.8
Rome 56.5
Snowden 51.0

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by Tim Burke on Dec 10, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey! At UFC 114 I was at 56.7% and in 6th place on the staff...

Since then I’ve gone 70 – 33.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Safe picking paid off!

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by Tim Burke on Dec 10, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I was the only one on staff that picked Rashad! I picked Leben over Akiyama! Only guy to pick Bonnar in the rematch with KSos!

…now I’m bored and stopped looking at old predictions

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t believe no one else picked Bonnar in the K-Sos rematch. Crazy.

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by Tim Burke on Dec 10, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That's insane

Rashad was an easy call there.

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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 10, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought so...

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No Snowden predictions?

A few right predictions can improve your standing y’ know. =)

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by Rod Mapada on Dec 10, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Leland flipping the script on Pierson/Riddle. Interesting.

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by Tim Burke on Dec 10, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

I called it:

GSP by TKO
Alves by TKO
Miller by decision – Oliveira has a real shot to win, but I think Miller squeaks by. This will be FOTN I think.
Struve by decision
Almeida by submission

by pud333 on Dec 10, 2010 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

Almeida/Grant is on the prelims

Not Stevenson/Danzig.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 10, 2010 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

Leland,
While Koscheck has power, he is an insanely sloppy striker. Alves and Penn, both of whom have power and technique, could not land the bomb, why do you think Koscheck will?

by Lynchman on Dec 10, 2010 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

For the lulz.

They see me rollin...

by spectaa on Dec 10, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Oof

Srsly?

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by Charles Awad on Dec 11, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey… did I not say Koscheck is at a disadvantage in every department? And did I not say that I was picking him for shits? I basically said that.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 10, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus. That doesn’t even look real.

by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 10, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ow. Amazing that guy is still alive.

by memitim on Dec 10, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Christ

That’s even better than the Jorgensen-otine.

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by Neil Manich on Dec 10, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

YES

Love that clip. War Miller Bros.

by Jay Bittner on Dec 10, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

holy shit =\

"We have all had to watch Brock Lesnar fart around. That guy is an embarrassment. God damn, you get to hand pick his opponents for him for a while then someone who is a half way decent athlete comes along and hits him once and he pisses his pants and runs. If he wasn't in a cage he would still be running."
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by dgonz on Dec 10, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF?! Is that even anatomically possible?

Going to have nightmares tonight.

by Cocytus on Dec 11, 2010 2:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's a Frank Trigg special

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by Neil Manich on Dec 10, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Nate,

Your point about Koscheck not being able to phase shift is entirely right. I don’t know why I haven’t really heard it been said before. Koscheck can say the reason why he got taken down so often is because he was looking to strike in the last one, but if he keeps his hands down this time GSP is just going to batter him standing. The only way Kos wins this is if he keeps Georges flat on his back for three rounds.

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by Neil Manich on Dec 10, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

and

how long have we seen GSP on his back for, in total? Less then a round? If Koscheck can keep him there for that long, then Koscheck should be inducted into the MMA hall of fame immediately after the fight.

by proflex on Dec 10, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

There’s a reason why Georges is the favorite. I also think Kos is the best wrestler GSP has faced, over Fitch, Trigg, and Hughes.

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by Neil Manich on Dec 10, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe that you guys don't talk before doing these.

That’s what makes the double description of Jim Miller as “gritty” so much better. It’s like he’s a Greatriot.

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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 10, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

No Snowden Predictions?

Why isnt Snowden doing any predictions? I enjoy them and this has been the second or third PPV with no snow prediction!

by elmojo on Dec 10, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

He is probably traveling to the event.

by Sqwibbs on Dec 10, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I had no idea Dan Miller was fighting on this card.

I hope his life got better because he’s a really good fighter. WAR MILLER…but just Dan not Jim.

by av1o3 on Dec 10, 2010 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Not that it really matters these days since its been years but “Mike Fagan: Since his UFC debut, Thiago Alves has lost to Georges St-Pierre and Jon Fitch” He also lost to Spencer Fisher

by tremblay6 on Dec 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

That was IN his UFC debut. He’s saying since then.

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by Tim Burke on Dec 10, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

its still funny to think how tiny Spencer is compared to the Alves.

by Dustin Luff on Dec 11, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Been saying for awhile

That he and Tyson should jog off those muffin tops and go to 145, but Spencer is probably too old for it now.

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by Charles Awad on Dec 11, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we’ll see a huge upset in favor of McCorkle. As a matter of fact, I put $10,000 fake dollars on him.

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by BadB on Dec 10, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

I got

GSP via TKO or RNC after dropping Kos
Struve via Triangle
Miller via UD
Stevenson via Guillotine
Alves via KO

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by sitnam90 on Dec 10, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

No one likes Howard’s speed advantage over Alves? I can see him winning 2 rounds.

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by Hardy's in your face on Dec 10, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

No

Alves is going to leg kick him until he falls over.

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by Derek Suboticki on Dec 10, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No...

because I don’t like his skill disadvantage

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Picks

GSP
Alves
J Miller
Struve
Almeida
Stevenson
Bocek
Riddle
Natal
D Miller
Audinwood

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by Gobroks on Dec 10, 2010 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hazlett does not seem huge for lightweight, I thought he walked around at 175 cutting a bit of fat to get to 168-70 then the rest water is normal for the weight class. He is tall and skinny like myself. And I would be LW by UFC standards. If not walking at 175 then never mind.

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by Kefka on Dec 11, 2010 1:11 AM EST reply actions  

GSP
Alves
Miller (both)
Struve
Almeida
Stevenson

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by The American Ronin on Dec 11, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

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