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UFC Sponsorship Policies and Bad Economy Hurting Fighter Earnings

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As the UFC continues to record record profits at events around the world, it's never been harder, in the post Ultimate Fighter world, for a fighter to secure a lucrative sponsorship deal. This is particularly true for fighters outside of the Zuffa empire - and it's not just a product of an economy staggering and reeling like Zab Judah after a Kosta Tsyzu flurry. It's part of a calculated campaign by the UFC to hurt its competition. Unfortunately, the primary victims are the men and women trying to make a living in the cage.

In many ways, this is just a reality of today's business climate. While we often think of the UFC as an established monolith, the Fertitta brothers have actually owned the company for less than a decade. It's still a very young business, run by the hyper-competitive Dana White. He wants the UFC to be associated with MMA the way professional football makes fans immediately think "NFL." And he's not afraid to play hardball with sponsors and rival fight promoters to get there.

"As the market collapses and the major sponsors keep cutting back, television fighters are losing their leverage. Guys without names are being pushed out of the market entirely," one agent told Bloody Elbow anonymously for fear of retribution. "Clients outside the UFC are in even worse shape. Apparel companies are walking on eggshells and essentially won't touch anyone outside of the UFC they don't already have a deal with. No one wants to get banned."

It started 18 months ago when the UFC began tightening down on what gear fighters could wear into the cage.  Businesses that wanted to sponsor fighters for UFC events had to pay UFC President White first, for some companies amounts up to $100,000 annually. But there was more to it than that. Certain outfits, like Full Tilt Poker, were suddenly sponsoring multiple fighters on every card. It appeared that they were trying to rebrand the entire promotion in their likeness. White couldn't allow that to happen without the UFC collecting a premium. They had spent too much money and time building their brand. They weren't about to let anyone come in and splash their own logo all over everything on the cheap. It was going to cost, up to $1 million per quarter for high level sponsors.

Some could afford to pay. Some bought in anyway and disappeared as the economy continued to collapse all around us. In some cases, it was the fighters being hurt, especially savvy athletes who had built their own clothing brands.

"It's like they were sticking their hands in my pocket," fighter Dan Henderson said, telling the LA Times that the UFC charged his apparel company $10,000 for a four month window to advertise in the Octagon in 2009. That was money that could have gone to the fighters.

While the UFC surcharge didn't quell Clinch Gear, many sponsors who were just testing the waters, working with fighters on the undercard or opening television matches, immediately eliminated UFC fighters from their ad budgets. When you are paying fighters less than $50,000 a year to wear gear, a $50,000 UFC tax is hardly economically viable. White told the press it was a quality control move and that companies were charged a different amount based on their ability to pay:

"Depends on how big or how small your business is and how much you pay. We are the most lenient sports organization on planet f**cking earth. When was the last time you saw guys wearing whatever they want in the NFL, Major League Baseball, the NBA, World Cup Soccer? Do guys wear whatever they want when they walk in? No they don’t."

MMA Agents respond in the full entry.

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As one agent with experience in the auto racing industry explained, in some ways this is a bit of a faulty metaphor. The NBA and NFL are leagues made up of teams, spread all over the country with different market realities in each region. The UFC is more like Nascar, where race teams are sponsor driven and rely on outside investment and endorsements to support their continued development. Like fighters who use sponsor money to train full time, Nascar teams take sponsorships to grow, research how to make their cars better, and continue to survive. When fighters can't put together decent sponsorship packages, it becomes extremely difficult to train and prepare like a world class athlete. That's what give established camps like American Kickboxing Academy, Greg Jackson and Mike Winkeljohn's MMA, and American Top Team an advantage. Fighters coming up in the sport may be living on bunks in the gym or sleeping on a teammate's couch, but they still have access to some world class training partners and coaches.

"When Dana White says he is lenient, well guess what, in a lot of ways the UFC is, but you just have to have the experience in the sports business arena to know that," agent Dean Albrecht said. "And now with the WEC expansion and global expansion, well guess what? There are a lot more fights and fighters to sponsor and the apparel companies didn't automatically increase their sales by 30 percent, so something has to give. If the apparel and mma type companies continue to want to cover more guys then the amounts paid have to go down if the companies are running themselves responsibly."

Albrecht, an agent who has brokered mega deals for Quinton Jackson and Frank Mir among others, says the economy is a huge factor, but that a lack of creativity and experience in the MMA management community also shares some of the blame.

"First and foremost it about the state of retail, that makes it more difficult yes, most of the companies that are known to sponsor fighters have sales that are flat to a little bit down to growing like wildfire. I'll bet that pretty much any company that has grabbed on to the rocket that is the UFC is thankful as heck that they are lucky to be in an industry and involved with an organization in some shape or form that is growing," Albrecht said.  "They are very fortunate. Just look around the hardships that most people are facing in their financial lives. To be successful in this game, you have to make the effort to cultivate relationships with outstanding companies with outstanding people who see the value in sponsoring or advertising on fighters or having a UFC fighter endorse their product. The UFC with few restrictions allows us to do that. In many industries, parts of the genre outgrow others. Many games for computers a few years back outgrew the PC wherein the PC's weren't fast enough or powerful enough to experience the game. That chasm has closed pretty much with faster chips. In UFC MMA specifically, the event has grown fast, faster then many of the companies have been able to keep up with the demand from the fighters for the sponsorship dollar. This is good in my opinion. It causes the people involved in the sport to go outside the typical mma sponsor and bring in new sponsors. Right now, MMA is the cheapest sponsorship opportunity on the planet.

"That goes for corporate sales and the individual sponsorships sales on each fighter. It will catch up as more and more sports marketing companies get better at explaining this to corporate sponsors. The UFC is right around the corner from becoming the first Global PPV brand that really has the ability to attract buyers from literally every corner of the earth and we are in the epicenter of it and invited to garner sponsors and endorsement deals for our clients who are involved in it. They are now in half a billion homes around the world. In a few years when more companies get how broad an appeal this sport has the numbers are going to be huge for sponsorships and endorsements. We just have to get better at sharing the message."

Consistent with his history and temperament, it didn't take White and UFC vice president for business and legal affairs Mike Mersch long to realize that controlling sponsorships in the UFC could be more than a financial boon - it could also be used to punish White's growing list of enemies. When Henderson considered signing with rival promotion Strikeforce, Clinch Gear was no longer allowed to be seen on UFC broadcasts. RVCA, sponsor of UFC stars like B.J. Penn and Vitor Belfort, was also out for having the temerity to sponsor Fedor Emelianenko

Even Tapout, the venerable clothing brand most closely associated with the UFC wasn't above White's wrath. When they entered into an agreement with Emelianenko earlier this year, White was said to be furious. M-1 Global President Vadim Finkelchstein told Sherdog.com that Tapout thought they could weather the storm:

"The person from Tapout management told us that, no, there weren’t going to be any problems, that Tapout was a company that was older than the UFC and they were a company which has been in the market with fighters that don’t necessarily fight in the UFC."

White killed the deal and Fedor ended up sporting Clinch Gear in the cage. Tapout, once the shining light in many fighters lives, a grass roots company that sponsored fighters from around the world and in every organization, was suddenly exclusive to the UFC. Of course, the sport's most famous line had other problems. 

The company struggled in the first half of 2010, cutting back dramatically on sponsored fighters, looking to cut debt in advance of being acquired by Authentic Brands Group (ABG). Many fighters on multi-fight deals were told they wouldn't be re-signed and were offered unconditional releases to go elsewhere and secure longer term relationships. Similar moves were going on at other big MMA sponsors like Silver Star. Fighters were being cut free, but potential saviors were nowhere in site.

"One of my fighters had several fights left with one of the major clothing brands," a manager said in confidence. "We got sent a letter saying we were done. They asked us to send a fax if we wanted out of our contract. They were going to release us to pursue a new deal."

In the end, the sponsor crisis is a supply and demand issue. When the economy was rolling along, fighters up and down the card were doing well. The UFC is a brand that reaches hundreds of millions worldwide. In many ways it's a pretty cheap investment relative to the television time and the built in youth demographic.

The global economic meltdown changed everything. And it couldn't have come at a worse time, because in the MMA community there was a meltdown of equal proportion - the loss of the Tapout brand as a sponsor for fighters at all levels and in all promotions.

The ABG umbrella has hurt fighters across the board. They are sponsoring fighters like they were a single brand - when just months ago the companies under their control were three of the largest sponsors in the industry. Combined with a reluctance to sponsor fighters outside the UFC, and it's a very rough time for the industry.  It's especially hard on fighters who aren't competing in the Octagon. Maximum Fighting Championship owner Mark Pavelich, for his part, has had enough:

I am disgusted by the way MMA clothing brands are buckling to "DW's" handling of contracts regarding the sponsorship of specific fighters.

It's almost comical - not on his part but on the part of these clothing companies. They cave in and pay his organization a great deal of money just to have the opportunity to sponsor fighters, who they then pay an individual fee to as well. What these clothing brands fail to understand is that the entire organization that "DW" runs is sponsored by a competing clothing company.

These other brands are paying to represent themselves, yet they will never get the brand recognition they are seeking since the company itself has what would be considered a title sponsorship with another clothing brand - probably the most-recognizable brand in the industry. You are competing in an uphill battle that you can never win.

Now "DW" has instructed these other clothing brands that they have to stop sponsoring other MMA events or they will not be allowed to sponsor fighters in his event - even after fully paying him for the right to sponsor and paying the fighters individually. He is collecting money by the armored truck full from these companies, and yet he's still able to tell them where to spend the rest of their money at the same time. Has he or anyone in his company ever heard of something called "restraint of trade?"

In a million years, you would never get away with this is other sports. I would like to see Nike, Adidas, or Reebok be told how and where they can spend their sponsorship dollars. It would never happen.

It's easy to say that brands should take a stand and cut ties with the UFC, sending a message that they won't be bullied. But it's more complicated than just the 15-90 seconds of air time fighters get wearing the brand on UFC PPV. A UFC-approved sponsorship deal also allows apparel companies to use fighter likenesses and the UFC logo for branding both online and for in-store placement. The UFC brand, that simple logo, can be insturmental in securing partnerships and floor space - it's not something sponsors will give up lightly.

Many companies are still sponsoring lower-profile fighters on smaller cards, including brands like Bad Boy, Sprawl and Tapout. But those exceptions are few and far between. As larger companies move to exclusive UFC deals, opportunities for fighters are dwindling. I'm not sure how the system can be repaired, and for many fighters, there are tough times ahead.

MMA fighters have been lucky. In most mainstream sports only the superstars are making meaningful money from endorsements and sponsors. A midlevel fighter like Joe Lauzon, who has long-term sponsorship deals with companies like Sprawl, Dethroned, MMA Warehouse, and Versa Climber, makes more from endorsements than the vast majority of his hometown Boston Red Sox. Eventually we may see a paradigm shift where fighters like Georges St. Pierre and Brock Lesnar take most of the endorsement income, leaving just scraps for everyone else. That's consistent with what we've seen in other sports, but of course, in other sports Peyton Manning will be on screen much more frequently than one of his linemen. In the UFC, fighters in the opening match will get potentially the same amount of airtime as the main eventers.

It's important for fighters to maximize opportunities now. The less talented agents who don't sell their fighters outside of the MMA genre are going to be picking away at the pie that hasn't grown and cannibalize each other. It's never been as important to have a good agent, the kind that can bring in companies from outside the incestuous MMA apparel market as some have done with Zappos, ecko, Vegas.com, and Under Armour. It's those type of value added agents and managers who will be the survivors of tomorrow. The agents and their clients.

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Jon can you clarify something?
A midlevel fighter like Joe Lauzon, who has long term sponsorship deals with a company like Sprawl, Dethroned, MMA Warehouse, and Versa Climber, makes more from endorsements than the vast majority of his hometown Boston Red Sox.

Are you talking endorsements for endorsements? Like the majority of the Red Sox aren’t making massive endorsement money or are you saying with what Joe gets from endorsements, he earns annually more than the Red Sox? I think it’s the former but just want clarification.

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by Matthew Roth on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

I’m saying Lauzon makes more than the Red Sox players in endorsements. Not in overall pay of course as MLB pays players outrageous salaries.

by Jonathan Snowden on Dec 10, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks...just wanted to make sure I was reading that correctly.

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by Matthew Roth on Dec 10, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad you asked

I was curious myself.

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by Chris Barton on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah also...still need me to mail the DVD or did you get a digital copy?

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by Matthew Roth on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

How many Red Sox players do you think have endorsements?

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by S.C. Michaelson on Dec 10, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

truthfully almost all of them have some sort of local endorsement

Colin Cowherd is more annoying than the Progressive radio commercials.

by Austin Martin on Dec 10, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Usually have major company endorsements but the pay mostly includes lots of free gear.

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by Day Man on Dec 10, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a great and informative read. I think it’s pretty fair too, in it’s assessment of both sides of the ZUFFA sponsorship deal.

I hadn’t considered how goofy ABG having all of those different brands under their umbrella makes things for fighters. That blows.

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by Chris Barton on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

I’m sure it will have a WalMart effect sooner or later. If ABG continues to buy up gear companies they will become the only game in town and fighter endorsement money will spiral down.

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by KING FEDOR on Dec 10, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I am afraid of

and it looks like it’s already putting some hurt on guys, since they can’t or won’t be sponsored by multiple companies under that umbrella.

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by Chris Barton on Dec 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a lot of the problem is the average fan thinks that the fighters are making bags full of money. That’s not the case. Many fighters are training full time and working a full time job. They are far from well off and this BS with the UFC refusing a sponsor unless you go through the “Dana White Toll Booth” hurts the fighters and since their training time is limited it may effect the quality of fights.

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by KING FEDOR on Dec 10, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely support the UFC charging sponsors for airtime

They are hardly the only sports organisation to do so NFL players are often fined for advertising unapproved sponsors (Brian Urlacher and VitaminWater at the Super Bowl XLI Media day for example).

It’s there broadcast and they have every right to expect advertising fees the same way CBS or Fox does for an ad spot.

by MattParker117 on Dec 10, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

thank you....

a well-thought out, original article. i enjoyed reading it. This could be made into a documentary-type expose

by nannerb on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

i agree with you ^

i think the ufc should charge the sponsors. They invested millions in getting out there and getting to where they are at. Now sponsors want to come in, well yeah charging sucks for the fighters, but the ufc wants to make its cut. If it wasnt for the ufc, the current fighters would have not been maing any money cause mma would have still been a taboo sport. So yeah it sucks but atleast you have a job and get to do what you love.

by suckmyballs on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

The Nascar comparison makes more sense to me than the team sports comparison. I don’t like the comparing MMA to team sports, when people say things like UFC being dominant is a good thing, just like the NFL I think well not for the fighters, in team sports a person can go to another team. But if the UFC is the only high level place for mma guys get screwed.

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by Kefka on Dec 10, 2010 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

It isn’t about MMA, it’s about UFC/Zuffa. While I don’t think all that many will miss seeing sponsors like Hoelzer Reich or CondomDepot, this move will not help the sport – and while it will increase UFC’s short term profits, it may end up biting them in the arse on the long term. Like it or not, they will need the fighters who are starting out and need the small sponsorships… which they will find harder and harder to get. And it’s not just because of the economy, stupid.

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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 10, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree because of this:

Right now, MMA is the cheapest sponsorship opportunity on the planet.

I don’t think there is enough creative MMA agents out there looking outside the box and getting the message across on how cheap and effective MMA sponsorship is right now. Kind of what the last paragraph in this article says.

It’s important for fighters to maximize opportunities now. The less talented agents who don’t sell their fighters outside of the MMA genre are going to be picking away at the pie that hasn’t grown and cannibalize each other. It’s never been as important to have a good agent, the kind that can bring in companies from outside the incestuous MMA apparel market as some have done with Zappos, ecko, Vegas.com, and Under Armour. It’s those type of value added agents and managers who will be the survivors of tomorrow. The agents and their clients.

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by mattman73 on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The smaller sponsors need to be sponsoring people on smaller shows. The days of Rick’s Tire Barn getting in the Octagon are over, but there is nothing stopping them from sponsoring guys fighting for Extreme Challenge.

by Steve4192 on Dec 10, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, there is that – until you get to the point where a fighter has a chance to get into UFC, but his existing sponsors can’t afford to pay UFC and he’s still too unknown for the existing UFC sponsors. While this is hypothetical, I don’t want to see this kind of stuff stopping potential contenders from getting their chance.

For all the tall talk about UFC being on the way of becoming the biggest sport in the world, they’re really succeeeding in mistreating a large part of their roster with stuff like this. The emphasis is more and more on the brand and not the fighters who provide the content for the brand (the fights).

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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 10, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Great read

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by Jack.Barrington on Dec 10, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Good piece!
It’s never been as important to have a good agent, the kind that can bring in companies from outside the incestuous MMA apparel market as some have done with Zappos, ecko, Vegas.com, and Under Armour. It’s those type of value added agents and managers who will be the survivors of tomorrow. The agents and their clients.

This is the most important part for fighters. This is why you have to create a positive image for yourself, the way GSP has. You come to press conferences wearing suits, you behave in your personal life, you emphasize the positive things in your life and above all else, you have to win fights. It’s all well and good to say you will go out on your shield, that all you care about is putting on an entertaining show, but you still have to win fights. Sponsors like winners. Especially the big sponsors outside of MMA. Get rid of the skulls and shitty Affliction designed t-shirts and start making yourself marketable to the suburban masses.

As for the UFC, it is what it is. You can play ball or leave the court. I’m not saying it’s right. Far from it. But the reality is, the UFC isn’t likely to change their policies. So if the sponsors aren’t there, you’re gonna have to get a second job. It sucks, but for a fighter just trying to make a name for themselves and build a career, there’s probably not much other choice.

by pud333 on Dec 10, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I agree. Coming from a back ground in the music business what surprises me most about MMA is just how bad the majority of the agents are. That has started to change as fighters like GSP now have high end agents doing their deals. But that needs to filter down more.

The UFC is getting pretty well maxed out on the number of new sponsors that can come on board. If you either can’t get in to sponsor in the UFC or it becomes cost prohibitive then companies will look to the other organizations. The market will fix this problem.


Get rid of the skulls and shitty Affliction designed t-shirts and start making yourself marketable to the suburban masses.

Strikeforce is on this road right now. That is what is behind the deal with CLI and the re-branding. It also helps out Clinch Gear as well. MMAPayout as usual had the story.

http://mmapayout.com/2010/08/clinch-gear-joins-strikeforce-inks-deal-with-collective-licensing-international/

by fitefan on Dec 10, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

As for the UFC, it is what it is. You can play ball or leave the court. I’m not saying it’s right. Far from it. But the reality is, the UFC isn’t likely to change their policies. So if the sponsors aren’t there, you’re gonna have to get a second job. It sucks, but for a fighter just trying to make a name for themselves and build a career, there’s probably not much other choice.


What about business models like Team Takedown?

by madiq on Dec 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

White is seriously impeding on fighter's ability to make money...

And all because of personal spats. I dont think thats how you run a company.

by Discman2 on Dec 10, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Well, it’s that as well as world domination.

by pud333 on Dec 10, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t like the sound of it.

If Zuffa wants to charge companies for air time, I get it. They’ve earned that much, and it doesn’t necessarily translate into less money for the fighters. DW could easily use that money to pay out more bonuses, if he were so inclined.

What I don’t like about it is the added element of blackballing companies to be exclusively UFC, or nothing at all. The reason I dislike this practice is that it hurts both the small businessman and the up and coming fighter.

I would think that he could instead charge the companies more for UFC air time by allowing them to grow via additional exposure in smaller promotions and on the backs of more fighters.

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by Snatchl on Dec 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Does anyone know how sponsership works in Golf? Does the PGA tour have a say in who’s allowed to sponser it’s golfers?

by zorba on Dec 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Most sports leagues

Have a list of approved/blacklisted sponsors the approved one’s usually pay the league to be on that list.

by MattParker117 on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course they do. The PGA wouldn’t allow a company like Condom Depot anywhere near their tournaments.

A quick Google search reveals this link, which discusses changes in the rules of sponsorships from spirit companies.

by rabrown on Dec 10, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll green this

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

They don’t seem to be allowed in SF any more either which is to bad. Condom Depot across the back of Miesha’s shorts would be one of the best advertising buys in the history of sports. That girl could be rich.

by fitefan on Dec 10, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The PGA Tour is an association which means it is kind of owned/ran by the players. The PGA has approved sponsors, but those sponsor dollars are going back to the players. The tour purses run around $250 million +

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by John Nash on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fighters take note.

Therein lies the rub.

The fighters are their own biggest enemies. Guys like Randy Couture and Tito Ortiz have talked a good game about organizing in the past, but quickly dropped the idea the moment Zuffa stepped forward with a big fat check. As long as the stars continue to look out for #1, Zuffa will continue to dictate terms by keeping those stars happy and telling everyone else to go fuck themselves.

by Steve4192 on Dec 10, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Great read...

…nitpicky, but serious question: it’s “St-Pierre” not “St. Pierre” right? Or is it that when writing about him in the US you can use the period and it’s an accepted practice in the industry? I always make sure to use the “-”, but what do I know…

by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Dec 10, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure what in Snowden’s piece brought this issue up but GSP’s website and the UFC site both use St-Pierre.

by rabrown on Dec 10, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if using the dash is trade marked.

by fitefan on Dec 10, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

@rabrown

noticed teh usage with the period in the 2nd sentence in the next to last paragraph, and wanted to ask….received good responses…

by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Dec 10, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

St-Pierre is correct

we use St. Pierre for a variety of reasons including google searches. ESPN does as well.
We are debating a switch to St-Pierre but that will take some doing as it involves changing our fighter Database and making every single SBN writer use the hyphen every time.

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by Nate Wilcox on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

While we're at it...

It’s NASCAR, as it is an acronym for National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing.

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by duck on Dec 10, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I was told a while back it was a difference in French-Canadian usage vs. typical American usage rather than anything particular about GSP’s name. Given that, I’ve always been content with the period, and no one has objected.

by Beau Dure on Dec 10, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

"Businesses that wanted to sponsor fighters for UFC events had to pay UFC President White first, for some companies amounts up to $100,000 annually."

That is a complete lie, these businesses aren’t putting this money into DW’s pocket. They are paying the UFC, and i don’t think you have the right to say something like that.

by Chad Raynard on Dec 10, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

You are right. I didn’t intend it to read that way, and will modify the article to say “Zuffa.”

by Jonathan Snowden on Dec 10, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Great article Jonathan

Root for the home team jack ass

by KING FEDOR on Dec 10, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you, otherwise it’s a good article. I usually disagree with your articles as most do on this board, but it’s hard to side against low level fighters trying to make some money. This is a new sport and up and coming fighters need these sources of income to keep things moving.

by Chad Raynard on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn’t a board. And I think it’s unrealistic to say “most” disagree with Jon’s pieces.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was understood even though it was written explicitly.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 10, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Unity is the issue

Until the gear companies form an association and the lower tier fighters form a union Zuffa will continue to play one against the other to increase Zuffa profit.

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by KING FEDOR on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah. Shoe deals, uniform deals, equipment deals…all not abnormal in “major” sports. Of course, White relies on the ignorance of his primary fanbase to these realities to create a sense of “YEAH! WHAT HE SAID!” among those loyal followers.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, White relies on the ignorance of the media he allows to interview him

Next time a journalist or site doesn’t get credentialed it’s probably because they’ve shown more than a double digit IQ.

by KJ Gould on Dec 10, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And watching the press conference I can see how he hypnotizes an audience and even the people that are interviewing him. I rarely see someone who is doing an interview call bullshit on something he says. Has anyone here seen that happen?

by memitim on Dec 10, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You worry about your access in those situations. He’s intimidating in that way.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I figured. There needs to be a MMA “Stuttering John”.

by memitim on Dec 10, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, just like when a Zoologist stands up in the middle of church and says...

there is no god and you dont know anything about science…

Why all the Dana hate??

If it wasnt for Dana, These reprters would be talking about kickboxers in Japan…

I doubt there would be more than 50 BE members if it wasnt for Dana…

by cardiackids on Dec 11, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

So everything about Dana is perfect?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 11, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it is partly to appease the big sponsors and keep the stuff like Condom Depot away.

Mostly it is to make money though.

Guillotine.

by iiowyn on Dec 10, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I can understand the criticisms...

…but if you’re a top fighter and you want to make money, then hopefully what Dana and the guys are doing with the sponsorship policy is making it so that the only way you can make that money is inside the UFC. I mean, a guy like Henderson really, there should’ve been no incentive for him to want to leave the UFC, and like wise a fighter like Gilbert Melendez should really have no incentive to stay in Strike Force. If this sponsorship thing leads to that (which is how I’m reading it, if I’m wrong then someone say!) then for me it’s a good thing.

by Newman24 on Dec 10, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

I think the ufc wants fighter pay to be in the model of nascar and not like the nfl/mlb/nba.
I think there was a video of dana talking about it, or an article that was written. But Im not sure.

by RehabNinja on Dec 10, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

It’s never been as important to have a good agent, the kind that can bring in companies from outside the incestuous MMA apparel market as some have done with Zappos, ecko, Vegas.com, and Under Armour.

Snowden,

A long time ago in a comments section far, far, away, someone mentioned Shari Spencer as one of the best agents in the sport and you hinted that you believed she had horribly mismanaged GSP’s career. I don’t know enough to argue one way or the other, but given the tenor of the above quote, do you still feel the same way?

by Steve4192 on Dec 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Was it that long ago – I thought it would only a couple weeks ago.

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by Day Man on Dec 10, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that is an accurate reflection of my personal opinion. The idea that a couple have people have floated is that it took longer than expected for Shari to make these mainstream deals for Georges – despite him being the easiest sale in all of MMA. Perhaps after this show I will see if she’s interested in doing an interview to discuss what she does and her philosophy for Georges.

by Jonathan Snowden on Dec 10, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

My memory was hazy on the details. I just remembered the conversation getting started but never finished.

I apologize if I misrepresented you feelings on the subject.

by Steve4192 on Dec 10, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta say, Snowden

I think this is an important piece and props for doing it. I realize that as the organization, the UFC has the right to basically have whatever sponsorship policies they see fit, but it just doesn’t seem fair. The whole thing about charging a sponsor different rates “depending on what they can afford” seems a ton like the old “protection money” racket. Quality Control, my ass! This is greed and control plain and simple. Again, it’s their right but, “it ain’t right.”

by LeonDaLion on Dec 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Great article, very interesting.

by Horselover Fat on Dec 10, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

What about sponsorship of/by gym teams?

For example MTX Audio that sponsors guys by paying them as they are building themselves up. Now when one guy on the team hits the bigtime and makes the UFC they have to choose whether to put ads on him or the rest of the team in the smaller shows? How could they ever make their money back?

I guess this goes for pretty much any team.

by coblo on Dec 10, 2010 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

It will be interesting

to see if Ben Henderson wears the MTX logo on his first UFC fight now that WEC had been merged.

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by duck on Dec 10, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Jason Genet fucked over MTX. This is a good case of a horrible agent hurting MMA. Snowden you should do an article on MTX’s fallout with Jason Genet.

by MMAfan4242 on Dec 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wonder if we will ever see a fighter with no sponsors and wear clean shorts.

That would be interesting.

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by Guillermo Ponce on Dec 10, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Antonio Silva’s shorts were almost empty in his last fight. He must have a bad manager.

by MMAfan4242 on Dec 10, 2010 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nam Phan at TUF 12 looked empty, except for the fact we wore TapouT shorts

I didn’t see another logo on his shorts. Hopefully he actually got them for free and didn’t have to go order them online to have a decent pair of shorts for the broadcast.

"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan

by duck on Dec 10, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

TUF guys usually just wear the plain shorts they wore during the season for the finale. It looks really weird when they are matched up against people that weren’t on the show.

by Phildo on Dec 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't evan tanner do that?

i think he wore a shirt that just said “army of one” and it was just his own idea, no sponsors.

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by chasethegoose on Dec 10, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP came close when Affliction was banned. I believe they paid him to wear blank shorts and have no walk out t shirt, but one time he did have UFC Undisputed on his shorts alone.

by Phildo on Dec 10, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

A response to this article can be found on MMA Payout here: http://mmapayout.com/2010/12/ufc-sponsorship-policies-hurting-fighters/

A little different perspective that might add to the discussion for anyone wanting to read it.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Dec 10, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Mostly a rehash of ideas in the article. And they spelled my name wrong.

by Jonathan Snowden on Dec 11, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

In another somewhat related post. At least it deals with views on sponsorship. Found it interesting thought I would share it here if anyone else wants to check it out.

On the UG a post made by Magnetic Marketing Associates, President. Post is titled: Ambush Marketing or Sponsor?

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=1564120&forum=1&page=1&pc=34

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Dec 11, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

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