TUF 12 Finale Complete With 11 Fights
by Scott Haber on Dec 2, 2010 12:15 AM EST
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Tonight's final episode of The Ultimate Fighter saw Jonathan Brookins and Michael Johnson advance to the finale in Las Vegas this weekend, where they'll square off for the Season 12 lightweight crown. MMA Junkie now reports that several of their castmates will be joining them on the undercard of the finale.
Semifinalist, Nam Phan will drop down to featherweight to meet the WEC's resident 145 lb brawler, Leonard Garcia, on the televised main card. Meanwhile, guillotine master, Cody McKenzie faces Aaron Wilkinson, and judo specialist, Sako Chivitchian takes on the other semifinalist, Kyle Watson. The full card is below:
Main card:
Stephan Bonnar vs. Igor Pokrajac
Michael Johnson vs. Jonathan Brookins
Demian Maia vs. Kendall Grove
Ricky Story vs. Johny Hendricks
Nam Phan vs. Leonard Garcia
Preliminary card:
Will Campuzano vs. Nick Pace
Fredson Paixao vs. Pablo Garza
Rich Attonito vs. Dave Branch
Tyler Toner vs. Ian Loveland
Cody McKenzie vs. Aaron Wilkinson
Sako Chivitchian vs. Kyle Watson
Live this Saturday on Spike TV, from the Pearl at the Palms in Las Vegas.
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what happened to him on the show
i stopped watching it b/c it was annoying
Woah Woah Woah nam vs Garcia I thought he was hurt i guess they decide to keep it secret hopefully it’s a war
by malito3og3 on Dec 2, 2010 12:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
No kidding
My eyes almost popped out of my head when I saw that one. He’s making the right choice moving down, though.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Dec 2, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Great fight
Especially after Nam’s showing in the fight tonight. Robbery via overscoring takedowns that do no damage.
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I disagree
I felt that Johnson may have won the third without, so the takedowns were icing. Plus, have you ever seen so many elbows to the back of the head? He was getting warned at first, then it just stopped. I was weirded out by that.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Dec 2, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Not to sound jaded, but if you just lay in a dudes guard, you deserve to get elbows to the dome.
Great fight though…Nam and Michael both showed a ton of heart.
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Jaded?
It’s against the rules. That’s it.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
I can’t tell if it was on the back of the head, that area confuses me to no end, but they were pretty equal on the feet in the third, I would even give the edge to Johnson. So this plus the takedowns make for a logical deserved win.
Kos was full of shit, “takedowns don’t score” my ass, he was screaming takedown like crazy at the end of the fight, and was pissy about it in the rest room.
They see me rollin...
love all three of the match-ups
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Dunno what they see in Sako.
Think Phan loses to Garcia, he just doesn’t do enough (read: anything) in his fights to win a decision and he doesn’t have enough power to get a KO. Mexican Windmill by decision.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:06 AM EST reply actions
Was not impressed with Sako at all
I expect Watson to take that handily, and for McKenzie to sub British. Still a bit shocked at Garcia/Phan, so I’m not sure who to pick— but the card got a lot better with that addition.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
McKenzie over Wilkinson?
Wilkinson isn’t going to shoot for a takedown though, and McKenzie has literally nothing besides that guillotine.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Right
You figured it out.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Dec 2, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Just curious as to your reasoning for picking McKenzie is all.
A lot of people seem to see something in him that I don’t and I’m trying to figure out what it is.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I can see why you wouldn't agree
I think he’s very tenacious, obviously has good subs (don’t be fooled because you’ve only seen the one that never fails), is very long for his division, and is young with a lot of upside.
I think his demeanor, more than anything, deters people from him. But I have reason to believe he’s been working on his striking some and Wilkinson doesn’t seem to have the best tank (along with being average at everything).
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Dec 2, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I tend to agree with everything you said.
But I disagree on Wilkinson’s gas being a factor here – in fact, I’d say Cody’s cardio is much more questionable considering his showing against Phan.
Still, in fights with guys of this caliber it’s usually smart to favor the one that’s displayed some finishing ability so a McKenzie sub is probably a smart pick. I’ll probably feel like an idiot when Wilkinson gets tapped in the first.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
We'll see
I think Wilkinson could be good in the future. Just not now and not in the UFC.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Dec 2, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
Interestingly enough
I said that same thing about McKenzie probably two episodes back.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Cody won’t have the same problem if he’s not trying to wrestle, and Wilkinson is not going to try to wrestle with him.
Cody’s style is interesting because trying to wrestle him puts you into his guilllotine, but he does have a temptingly weak gas tank which could be exploited if you could get him into a grappling match without first running into that deadly guillotine. That’s why I think George St. Pierre did him wrong by expecting him to become a wrestler.
The trick is that if he wants to have a future he needs to develop much stronger standup. But he’s 22, if he wants to, he has a bright future IMHO.
Oddly enough
I actually was surprised to find out people didn’t like McKenzie’s demeanor, I thought him and Brookins were so fun and chill on the show.
Garcia via undeserved split decision!!!!!
"Last time a Russian hit a brother that hard, Ivan Drago killed Apollo Creed"- Some guy on Sherdog, referencing Fedor vs Rogers
WTF?!!!
Garcia pulls out of a fight and now he’s back in?
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
It's almost like he wasn't injured at all
and they couldn’t spoil the better match-up they had set by revealing his opponent.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
This is a train wreck of a response.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 2, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't pull out of anything.
The injury was likely a cover story to avoid TUF spoilers about Nam. They just decided to have Garcia fight Nam instead of Toner.
He absolutely pulled out. He may not have signed, but he was the first to agree with the fight against Toner.
That's not what I meant.
I realize that the Garcia-Toner fight was agreed to, but Garcia didn’t voluntarily “pull out” of the fight afterwards because of any injury, or even because he wanted the fight with Nam.
The UFC/Joe Silva “pulled him out” of that matchup and replaced him with Loveland…it wasn’t in Leonard’s hands.
Garcia pulled a belfort but owell looking forward to this fught
by malito3og3 on Dec 2, 2010 12:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t but Alex back in. That dude looked like he could’ve cut to 145 pretty easily.
He'll be back
He’s training at Tri-star, I believe.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Dec 2, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
The moment they did a dedicated lightweights seasons of TUF, I knew they were going to merge the WEC with UFC.
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by Neil Manich on Dec 2, 2010 3:47 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Despite the ill will towards Garcia for winning fights that he probably should not have won, this is still a tough fight for anyone’s first UFC fight. Nonetheless, I do like Phan vs Garcia, and I am glad to see it on the main card. I expect that fight to be a standup war, and I am hoping to see those liver punches from Nam.
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This is a very solid card.
Nam will look good in the beginnig against Garcia but wont be able to hang. And wheres Bruce Lee Roy? I thought Dana “really like that kid”.
Johnson won’t be in the UFC for long.
Most of the Tuf 12ers were FWs, i expect them all to drop to FW.
Brookins may win 1 or 2 depending on the matchmaking.
In the end it just shows you how weak TUF casts are nowadays.
i was just saying pretty recently
look how successful the tuf 10 cast has been that we all shit on, a 12-2 record between madsen, mitrione, nelson, and schaub in the ufc with one of the losses coming from nelson beating scaub
tuf 11s cast seems to suck something awful but heavyweights actually gave the ufc some competitive fresh blood for the division
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I disagree.
I think Nam will fare well as a mid level fighter in the 145lb division. Brookins is very good. Give the guy some time and he’ll develop into something special. Johnson is equally as gifted athletically but lacks cardio and has a few other holes in his game, if he gets his cardio under control and winds up in a good camp he could surprise a few people too. Every season of TUF has produced at least one fighter to do great things.
TUF1 : Deigo Sanchez, Kenny Florian, and Josh Koscheck have all fought for a belt. Forrest Griffin actually held one for a few months.
TUF 2: Rashad Evans. Nuff said. Joe Stevenson also fought for the LW belt.
TUF 3: Bisping, has headlined multiple card. 20-3 record
TUF 4: Serra damn near killed GSP
TUF 5: Maynard challenges for the LW belt in January.
TUF 6: George Sortiropoulos! Seriously this guy is a fight away from #1 contender
TUF 7: ok….you win this round.
TUF 8: Bader…See George Sortiropoulos
TUF 9: see TUF 7
TUF 10: See the guys post above me about the Heavyweights.
TUF 11: Too early to tell
by Spider_Vemon on Dec 2, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TUF casts have changed though.
Back in 2005/2006 TUF was the best chance to get into the UFC.
Guys like Griffin,Sanchez,Leben,Swick,Stevenson,Bisping were alreadywell developed and faced quality opposition outside of the UFC.
While Seasons 1-5 produced 4-8 long time UFC fighters, Seasons 6-10 have had 2-4 with less Title contender material.
Season 8 winner was just cut and the Season 6 winner will probably follow soon
Yeah I agree with that. My statement though was that every tuf season produces a few gems. Brookins and/or Johnson has the potential to be this years gem(s)
I agree with both of you to an extent. Yes, we have had stars come out of TUF and yes, the more recent seasons seem to be headed for disappointment. However, not only is TUF a shortcut to the UFC, it is a shortcut to better camps and coaching. I have to think that some of these guys that we may take lightly now, will get into better camps and improve beyond what they could have without TUF.
I like how matter of fact you were at the end
Maybe let it happen before you celebrate?
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
Brookins looks for real to me
…and he seems to have his head on straight. I expect he’ll be in the UFC for a long time.
Yeah
I think he looks great. He’s obviously gotta work on his striking, but he’s got great instincts.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
Hope Brookins has something for Johnsons wrestling/power. Because the sparring session they showed between the two at the end of last nights episode was a bunch of Johnson tossing Brookins around and driving him into the cage. It should be a good fight and I think Brookins will win it but watching Johnson toss him around like that got me really excited that this could be a good fight.
You get his cardio up
and he can be a more annoying version of Clay Guida.
Maybe I’m just saying that because of their hair, or just their scrappy attitude on the ground.
The guy has already fought Jose Aldo (and even lateral dropped him), so that shows me that he has already fought high level competition early in his MMA career. He’s also fought guys like Jabouin, and he has fought in both the WEC and Bellator. Brookins is still young, but he has already fought some good level of competition and has fought in some of the higher-end secondary MMA organizations.
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Doesn't Johnson...
…look like Chris Tucker? I half expect him to launch into a diatribe about never touching a black man’s radio every time he’s on the confessional cam.
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