Freddie Roach: Antonio Margarito's Loaded Hand Wraps Equal to Attempted Murder
by Luke Thomas on Nov 10, 2010 12:10 AM EST
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PrintCombat sports interviews don't come much better than Freddie Roach. Savvy enough to give the interviewer material to chew on, erudite enough to educate the viewer or reader, experienced in the business enough to have authority on his opinions and inside enough to give esoteric details.
As for the substance of Roach's arguments, even if "attempted murder" is a layman's exaggeration, the criticism still honors the spirit of Margarito's grotesque crime. I've been championing this fight in this digital space more than anyone on staff, but it occupies the space of being underhandedly opportunistic while still being high end and at least somewhat meaningful. It's certainly consequential.
There's no denying this entire affair is a replacement for what is supposed to be the biggest fight of our generation, but Pacquiao is a character that's hard to ignore. Mexican fans loyal to Margarito might care about his redemptive storyline, but most sports fans just want to see Pacquiao do what he does.
It's not the perfect fight or even the best fight. What underwrites it is real ugliness in fight sport. But it's more interesting than UFC 122 by a mile. I can't wait for Saturday. I want to see Pacquiao be Pacquiao again.
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If I could interview anybody in combat sports
It would be Freddy Roach. Easily. Whenever he speaks I just hang on every word.
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I love that he speaks his mind
When’s the last time you heard a trainer say his guy’s camp was anything less than perfect?
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I’m checking the thesaurus, but I’m not seeing that “interesting” is a substitute for “disgusting”, “amoral” or “perverse”. I can only conclude, then, that we disagree as to how this differs from UFC 122.
Would assault with a deadly weapon be more apt?
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 9, 2010 11:15 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Whatever bro
it’s still an interesting fight regardless of Margarito’s past actions (not saying that he should’ve necessarily gotten this chance btw).
Margarito versus any number of prison inmates would be interesting. I’d rather see that than this fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 10, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well in prison there's usually more on the line
you lose against Pacman you say goodbye to your belt, you lose in prison and say goodbye to your butt virginity.
nice note.
It’s a felony if he knew. Conspiracy to commit a felony for starters. I wish they would’ve charged both fighter and trainer – I bet one would’ve yapped in pretrial.
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I have been told that Mosley
Could have pressed charges, do you believe this to be correct?
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by Drunken cutman on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Love Freddie
When I was watching 24/7 and they threw the slab of concrete on antonio hand and began cackling like it was funny. All I thought was what major assholes they must be to consider cheating and serious harm to a human being life joke worthy. I might not be the biggest fan of boxing, but roach will always be my favorite. His straight forward/no bullshit attitude is something you dont see alot nowadays.
It’s sad listening to Freddie talk. He’s still sharp and I love it when he is on KNBR, but you know it’s only gonna get worse.
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I agree with Roach
I agree with Roach, what Margarito did was attempted murder. He could have easily killed someone, he was just lucky he didn’t. Margarito should have been banned from boxing for life. I will never watch a Margarito fight or a Top Rank show after what Bob Arum said about MMA.
More interesting? Maybe
But I bet 122 puts on better fights.
Could be wrong, but thats my hunch.
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by troy145 on Nov 10, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I think it depends.
If your like me and have no interest in other sports (I’d watch god-awfull UFC 122 over the super bowl, World Cup, Olympics, NBA Finals, World Series, and whatever other combat sports can offer) then UFC 122 looks like a decent way to spend a Saturday night. Plus I think the fights will be exciting, even if only one meaningful fight is on the entire card.
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by sitnam90 on Nov 10, 2010 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
were it any other fighter i'd watch it
Margarito deserves absolutely nothing but a lifetime ban from the sport
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by Cory Braiterman on Nov 10, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions 12 recs
This.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'll have one of these too
and whoever said it was assault with a deadly weapon is spot on.
I can only imagine that he was wearing plaster when he fought Cotto.
Hell yeah they should have criminally charged him and at the absolute least never let him fight again, ever.
attempted murder isn’t far from the truth. Margarito is very, very lucky that he didn’t permanently injure the guy.
by alexmullen4180 on Nov 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST reply actions
I did not like what I saw in the sparring sessions of Manny. He was getting tagged and pinned on the ropes. Maybe the 24/7 intentionally showed this particular clips only to add more to the drama in the camp. But if it was the real trend, Manny would be having problems with El’ Cheatoh! Margarito is very durable and I dont think manny can KO him. He does not gas and has a very active offense. I see manny getting tagged with uppercuts to the body & head. I hope for manny to win but this would not be a cakewalk as many expects it to be.
Obviously it is not equal. Margarito’s offense is more on “punches in bunches” and a lot of bodywork. Although Khan also sparred with manny, it was much more with Medina, Tapia & 1 other dude whose name I forgot who are all bigger. They were the ones that I mentioned that were giving problems for manny in the clips.
Manny's weakness = anyone who knows how to Box.
He’s not even that technically proficient. Marquez proved this…twice.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 3:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not even close, its fact.
Marquez outboxed him in their second fight, many people thought Manny lost. He took that win and ran.
Hell, he didn’t rematch Marquez until four years AFTER the first fight. That says a lot, even now. A third fight at 147? After the heat Floyd got for beating up the smaller man? Its blasphemy.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 3:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marquez did outbox him, but he also got dropped and hurt through out the fight. Both were instant classics.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Yet the majority of the Boxing world, including the fans in the Phillippines, thought Pac had lost.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 4:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd say it was about 50/50
I agree though – Marquez deserved one or both of those decisions.
I doubt that's true
Was there like Gallup poll done in the Phillipines right after the fight?
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Leave him be, I say
He’ll never change, and he’ll never learn.
Leave him to his hate.
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by Drunken cutman on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
It is not fact.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Fact that Pac has not faced a pure Boxer since.......yeah, never.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I totally agree
Pacman is scared of everyone. Not like Mayweather; a real champion. Only real champions make small guys come up to their weight.
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What's funny about that..
And I wasn’t about to make this a May vs Pac affair because its a dead subject to me. However, for the sake of conversation – May was considered the smaller fighter at 147, now he’s suddenly a gargantuan.
Plus, Marquez called May out because Top Rank wanted nothing of Marquez at 140 or 135. Why bother with guy the that gave you a hard time and took four years to rematch? Pointless, eh?
Bert Sugar gave Marquez a great chance of defeating May. A HUGE CHANCE, he went on to bring up Ray Leonard vs Camacho/Norris and figured what happened to Sugar would happen to Floyd. Youtube it, watch the before and after responses – polar opposites.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey buddy
buddy budster. Budsteroonie.
What are you on about? I’m tired of PBF and Pac fans slinging mud at the opposing fighter. It was old in 2008.
A guy with 3 PBF quotes in his sig and a profile pic of him saying Pac isn’t technically proficient is bollocks.
Manny’s weakness = anyone who knows how to Box.
He tuned De La Hoya, who is a pure boxer. He also made a very defensive minded Clottey cover up for 12 rounds. The Marquez fights were close, I’ll give you that. I don’t think a third Marquez fight would be close, however.
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Manny couldn't make 154, so De La Hoya dropped to a weight he hasnt made in over seven years. Am I blaming Pac? No, but dont say Pac's amazing Boxing was the primary culprit to De La Hoya being TKO'd.
That and Clottey was drained. He wasn’t allowed to gain weight past a certain point. Yet again, a ridiculous stipulation to once again give Pac the advantage.
Rewatch Cotto-Clottey, Clottey-Margarito and witness how big of a banger Clottey would have been in the Pac fight if he hadn’t been dehydrated. He admitted to having Diarrhea before the fight aswell. Another factor that contributes to ones inability to maintain a certain weight without proper nutrition.
Its all hog-wash.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 4:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
By the way
… Sergio Martinez would absolutely kill Floyd Mayweather… just reading your hit list.
The Clottey fight was at 147…I don’t recall any catchweights in that one. You might be thinking about the Miguel Cotto fight which I believe was at 145 or something like that. So I’m not going to give Clottey the benefit of the doubt if he was drained for a weight that he had been fighting at for years.
by joshyboy708 on Nov 10, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
No...
Clottey is used to blowing up after weigh-in’s. He wasn’t allowed to get any bigger. He was physically drained, he said he didn’t eat, he had diarrhea before the fight.
That is enough to tell you that something was physically wrong.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no
Clottey wasn’t “as big of a banger” in the Pac fight because he felt the power early. I sat right up front for that fight. Clottey didn’t gas down the stretch at all, the weight didn’t effect him. He knew what would happen if he opened up.
You can poke holes in anyone’s record in hindsight – Ali, Tyson, Marciano, Joe Louis, and Pac is no exception to that. And yes, I’d say he belongs in that list.
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He felt no power because Pac damn near exhausted himself trying to KO Clottey, just look at Pac's face after the fight and tell me who did the most damage.
And no, Pac doesn’t belong on any list.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fanboy?
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until this… are you seriously trying to argue that Clottey did more damage than Pacquiao? All he did was keep his hands in front of his face? Watching that fight was like watching Pacquiao hit a heavy bag for 12 rounds.
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Ummm, yeah. Pac landed no significant punch in that whole fight.
Everything was arm punches. Give me three examples of a significant shot in the entire fight.
Me liking May has nothing to do with this. Stop grasping at straws.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Compubox for Clottey v. Pacquiao
Clottey: 108 landed out of 399 punches.
Pacquiao: 246 landed out of 1,241 punches (another 500 landed to the gloves of Clottey)
Lol, Pac landed more, obviously. Look at the totals..1,241 and only 246 landed.
Yeaaah. Like I said – nothing significant. Even a physically drained Clottey, who has had trouble making 147 in the past, couldn’t be KTFO by “Pacquiao might”.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's impossible to "KTFO" of somebody
who keeps their hands up like a little bia for 12 rounds… you are the worst.
Given the circumstances, isnt that what training camp is for?
Go to the body and the arms drop. Apparently, they didn’t teach that to Pac in Boxing school.
Its his job as a boxer to know this.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't give Pac any excuses, bro'.
Pac should have annihilated Clottey’s mid-section. Completely destroyed it, Pac is more than capable.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its okay, my friend. One day, you will learn.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you still able to post on BLH?
It’s a travesty if you are.
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by Drunken cutman on Nov 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, okay
I didn’t realize this guy has a history of being ridiculous…
come on, seriously?
De la Hoya looked awful… absolutely awful… he was shot and completely dehydrated.
Thats a typical hindsight response. Before that fight no one thought Pacquiao had a chance in hell.
by joshyboy708 on Nov 10, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
huh?
a) that’s just not true. The only reason anybody thought De la Hoya had a chance was the size differential, but at least 50 percent thought Pacquiao would win.
b) it’s not a hindsight response, it’s an accurate analysis of the fight. De la Hoya drained himself, got under the weight, and then only gained two pounds back between the weigh-in and the fight. Looking at him on fight night, he looked physically horrible, and unfortunately, he was just washed up. I’m not a Pacquiao detractor, but I don’t think this fight proved anything.
well
Its possible that I’m way off as it concerns your first point. But before that Pac-ODLH fight, practically everything I read was giving ODLH shit for taking a fight against a “much smaller fighter”. There was no 50-50 in anything I saw. Even after the weight limits were announced, I recall the response being more along the lines of “oh, thats interesting” rather than any outrage or calls for ODLH’s safety. Maybe I was just reading the wrong stuff.
However, using ODLH’s weight issues as a reason to say “the fight didn’t prove anything” is a stance that I simply cannot abide. ODLH is a long time professional, and knew perfectly well that weight cutting is as much a part of the fight as the fight itself. If ODLH failed to lose the weight properly, then as far as I’m concerned that’s no different then failing to execute a gameplan in the ring properly. But there were alot of folks just waiting to pounce on that excuse as reason that the fight “shouldnt count” or that Pacs victory “didnt prove anything”. And i just think that’s bullsh!t
by joshyboy708 on Nov 10, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
There's failing to lose weight properly...
and there’s the extreme of De la Hoya before this fight, where he literally couldn’t gain any weight back and looked emaciated… Fighters going down as far as he did under their natural weight should be gaining 10+ pounds in the day between the weigh-in and the fight. The reason I don’t think it proved anything is because I felt like the fight was a reflection of De la Hoya, not a reflection of Pacquiao…
That’s all I"m saying… I’m not anti-Pacquiao; I thought the Cotto win was very impressive, I’ve never seen anybody make Clottey clam up like that, and I expect that Pacquiao will destroy Margarito on Saturday. But the De la Hoya fight is completely unpersuasive to me.
Shawn Porter – who isn’t slow. Margo’s gonna look awfully slow in there. Pac was fast at the lower weights, he’s blazing fast at 140(+). Margo’s always been slow, it’s a total mismatch. Look at what an aging Sugar Shane did to Margo – how will that be different than?
Unless you’re right that this Pac ain’t the old Pac, but I don’t believe that. I think 24/7 is trying to sell us on some bullshit.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Thats what 24/7 does, sell you a pointless mismatch.
Its just hilarious how peeps actually give Marg a chance. If Marg wins a decision, what does that say about Pac? Weaker than Mosley, yet he dominated Cotto, a fighter Mosley couldn’t?
I am aware of the styles factor, but on paper. Pac’s style should annihilate all three’s style based on his track record and conspiracy’s that surround it.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 4:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
If only Mayweather would stop being such a coward and fight him.
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by Dave Strummer on Nov 10, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Margarito is still the biggest and strongest guy Pacquiao has ever faced. While Pac is a lot quicker and should be favored….anything can happen. And for some reason I just have a bad feeling about the fight.
by joshyboy708 on Nov 10, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Yea
but that’s why I watch the shit – everybody’s got a puncher’s chance.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
No chance here.
Marg is out in seven.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 2:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the main themes of this series
has been Margaritos redemption and Manny potentially being too distracted. Just their way of trying to hype up the fight and really make you feel as if there’s a solid chance for both guys.
This fight is not, I repeat, is not worth the price admission.
Sorry, I’ve been watching the sweet science since I was seven years old. Nothing will get me to spend $54.99 ($64.99 HD) on this pointless match-up.
Pac and May won’t fight, one is a self-absorbed nutcase and the other is afraid of giving blood at random times, whatever. If Pac is so great, he should fight the winner of Martinez-Williams II.
Sorry, Margacheato is a “never-was” and people mistakenly call greatness fighting in-house “names” at Catchweights, yet and still, contradicts the fight before by going up in weight and fighting for a trinket at a lesser weight.
History or not, you don’t fight for belts at catchweights and consider yourself “a champ” at that weight class. Its blasphemy.
I want Margacheato to lose due to ruining and almost retiring a future HoF’er but I really dont want Pac to get an eighth title.
Just my $.02
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 3:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
When you know the circumstances behind this fight and what it all means, entertainment should be the furthest thing in your mind.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Uh ... come on now. The majority of people like to watch two guys punch each other.
Entertainment is what matters.
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Haha
Isn’t that Mayweather as your avatar? lulz no wonder you talk like that, butthurt fanboy :D
"one is a self-absorbed nutcase"
His quote about Mayweather, but rather than taking the time to properly asses what he’s trying to say let’s just look at his avatar and starting hurling useless insults.
Yeah but have you seen his anti-Pacquiao quotes?
pretty awful…
Wonder if Pacman's political career interferred with training
I’d hate to see that scumass Margarito win, he’s a disgrace to the sport
(which is already a disgrace itself, so that’s saying something) and a disgrace to our people.
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It’s not the perfect fight or even the best fight….. But it’s more interesting than UFC 122 by a mile.
I prefer MMA, but don’t kid yourself, the biggest combat sports event of the weekend is the fight in Dallas… One of the best two boxers on the planet is going up in weight and trying to make history against a much bigger man with a granite chin, who will come forward all night long. Loaded gloves or not, Pac-man is going to have his hands full…. You will not see a lot of dancing in this fight, but what there are going to be is a lot of really hard punching all over the ring.
If you don’t like boxing, then it is what it is, but don’t kid yourself into thinking UFC 122 has more relevance. For those of us who prescribe to the “A good fight is a good fight” notion, we know what will be on the tube Sat night, and it won’t be a #2 contender eliminator on tape delay.
I generallyt agree here
Even though I can’t stand boxing (most non-MMA sports actually), this features one of boxing top fighters versus a relatively unimportant MW match up (Relatively. It still means a lot to the state of the division). I’ll still be watching UFC122 put that’s just a matter of tastes
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by sitnam90 on Nov 10, 2010 12:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We get it....
And next Saturday night, you will watch the Monster truck rally on The Ocho… Cuz it’s ya know, fucking free there guy…
Wha?
I was just stating the rather obvious reason as to why I would be watching 122, I’m more interested in Margarito/Pacman though, but I don’t know what you’re getting at. I wouldn’t watch a Monster truck rally if you paid me in Halle Berry vaginas.
My bad man....
Thought you were being a dick and I was bein one back…. Now I know that I am the only douche in this equation; apologies man.
On most nights I’d watch a Pacquiao fight over ufc 122 no questions asked. But I feel the fight itself is a disgrace, and the fact that Margarito is getting this opportunity is atrocious. The only thing that would make the whole situation worse is if Margarito wins, which isn’t outside the realm of possiblity. I would have no plans on watching that farce even if there wasn’t any mma on.
that shit is FUBAR!!!
If I ever caught an opponent using loaded wraps I would sue the shit out of that guy.
The worst part of this is that he denies the whole thing. How the FUCK do you not notice your trainer and (yourself) slipping your wraps into fucking plaster.
This little Margarita (douchebag cheater), should be in fuckin jail getting his ass plastered.
His arrogence fucking kills me and I hope he gets destroyed, layed out, and sent to the hospital with a fight ending detached retinal injury.
I have boxed my whole life and I could never imagine fighting someone with loaded wraps, this shows no respect for the sport or even human life.
KICK SOME ASS PACMAN
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