Dana White Responds to Scott Coker: "Calling Yourself Bob Arum Is a Joke"

This isn’t exactly a news release that is going out to anyone out side of internet MMA fans and they already like MMA. Sounding like he is open and conversing as though he is sitting across from you in your living room is part of what endears him to that audience.

It isn’t like he rants and cusses on ESPN or for major media. I am sure he didn’t rant and fuss at the Microsoft CEO summit either. I don’t really care about a few cuss words here and there.

But if i’m a regular motherfucker and the Roger Goddell of that sport is shit-talking and cursing up a fucking storm, I don’t take it seriously.

If Kid Nate started lacing his posts with f-bombs, could you take him seriously.

You seem to be unable to understand how the world works outside you and your bubble of friends. McDonald’s has the best fries (to many people) in the world, but Ronald McDonald isn’t out there saying “Burger King is a straight bitch”.

scott coker said in his interview that warranted this comment

english is not my first language, but reading that interview, i believe coker was referring to how bob arum conducted himself in promoting fights, as compared to don king who tried hard being the focus of attention with his suits, tuxedos and that hair of his

It’s not like everyone is gonna be less of a fan of the organisation if the president swears alot.

And not all 18-36 year old males are fans of loud, cursing dudes.

what i can’t understand is how some people here talk like they work for the ufc or own shares of stock in zuffa, judging by the way they talk about strikeforce going
“bankrupt” etc

guys, dana, the fertittas and the arab prince are never going to share a cent of what they make with you, so you guys should just cool it, sit back and enjoy the fights that the ufc, strikeforce etc put on

They may not be a feeder company now, but they may end up being, despite their best efforts. In my perfect MMA world, companies like Strikeforce would all end up being feeder leagues to the UFC. I think the realities of the MMA market are coming clear: You can’t beat the UFC at what they do on the national stage. The best option is to be the best #2 promotion you can be. When SF was a regional promotion, they were very good at it. It’s when they tried to take on the big show, is when they started to stumble and make mistakes. Before that, Coker was seen as a good business man. Now people ridicule him.

Guess what… Gary Shaw also made a profit. Rebney is also making a profit.

In MMA? You sure.

you dont understand what’s happening or why it’s happening as your witnessing it, remember that I explained it to you.

And next time you score a hit after months of throwing shit at the wall hoping it sticks, believe me we will remember all the horribly wrong things you’ve said. Your gimmick is busted. It’s amazing you are still here and plodding through. I appreciate the resilience.

He probably believes it after years of acting, but that aint him.

Too busy at work sadly.

flips on the Deo Wade signal

I also found it funny you said, "Here, you have these incredible and amazing fights" and yet you are still glossing over the implications of Coker’s little allegory. (Allegory is a piece of literature with a hidden meaning – thought I would give you a boost.)

Was not an allegory, it was an analogy, first of all. I mean if you’re going to make a didactic post, make sure you got the lesson right.

Usually when people provide a hypothesis, they use evidence to back it up.

Scott Coker’s hypothesis: Bob Arum’s style, who I try and model myself after, was as a more low-key guy behind the scenes

Evidence: Arum put on amazing and great fights that no one knew who promoted them.

That’s pretty simple there. He was not saying he put on fights that were amazing (though as a promoter, he wouldn’t say that he put on shitty fights either), he was providing an (since you like to teach, allow me to teach in return, Each one, teach one) ANECDOTE to show an example of how low-key Arum was.

Knowledge is power!) In the context of talking about a fight promotion, you are entirely unable to abstract the results away from the style of promotion when making an allusion of that type. You know, being that the promotion is part and parcel of the success.

Well, Coker is not talking about a “fight promotion”, he’s talking about the “style of promotion”. You don’t need to compare results to compare styles. For example, if I tell you I play basketball like Larry Bird and prefer to stay back and shoot jumpshots rather than drive to the basket, the fact that Larry was much much better than me is inconsequential. So if I said “I like to think of myself as a Larry Bird type player, someone who uses his jumpshot and 3pt skills to score. I mean Larry was a scoring demon and was unable to be stopped,” I’m not comparing my results to a 100-time All Star. I’m saying our STYLE is similar.

When Coker decides to use the two most successful boxing promotions in history as the subject of his comparison that conclusion is unavoidable. In the exact same interview he spoke about how Strikeforce is a national promotion, how it does fine with the UFC ("We have our own sponsors), how amazing its fights are, etc. Or in other words: further establishing that Strikeforce and the UFC are in some way equivalent, ala Arum and King.

Alert! Alert! People, when making analogies, tend to use the most famous example they can think of. Using my Larry Bird example, I’m not going to use Scott Brooks as my comparison because you’re not going to know who that is. I’m going to use the most famous applicable name. Him talking about the UFC and Strikeforce in other parts of the interview is NOT him furthering that comparison. If people make analogies, it doesn’t stretch and apply throughout a whole interview.

But I mean we can play the pretentious game, if you want to. You start it, I finish it.

There is nothing wrong with being a fringe sport (particularly when your “fringe” is the most important demographic in the advertising world). NASCAR is huge but it’s still a fringe sport, the main stream still has it’s preconcieved notions of the sport and it’s fans but that hasn’t stopped it from having millions of fans.

Nike, Reebok, etc are looking to move product, they would put sneakers on Satan if they thought they could make a buck off of it, Nike didn’t drop Tiger Woods, why would MMA scare them? Some companies will never advertise on a MMA show and some companies will use them to target that demographic, that is how it works. Even your “dregs of society” rap stars get plenty of work endorsing products.

and fighting in a cage does?

I doubt he read the BE article

Not sure why you would say that. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t. He was certainly with people who read BE yesterday though.

like anecdote, allusion, and analogy. Cause you don’t know the difference. And you keep using them wrong.