UFC Political Update: Harry Reid, Bob Reilly Hang On for Re-Election
The Las Vegas Review Journal summarizes how UFC-supported Harry Reid of Nevada squeaked through:
Reid not only overcame the lethally-low approval rating that had pundits locally and nationally declaring his pursuit of a fifth term hopeless, but also successfully inoculated himself against the fervent Tea Party movement that had found a champion in Republican challenger Sharron Angle.
"Yes, we did," Reid told a cheering crowd at Aria on the Las Vegas Strip, where Democrats gathered to watch election returns. "Today Nevada chose hope over fear."
Yet Nevada voters showed little enthusiasm in returning the quintessential incumbent to office.
"Harry Reid always seems to find a way to win," GOP strategist Greg Ferraro said. "He never wins big and he never wins pretty, and the rumors of his demise are always greatly exaggerated. He always finds a way."
This time around, Reid's path to re-election began with a sustained investment in party infrastructure, continued with a varied effort to clear the field of formidable opponents and culminated with the domination of his opponent.
Props to Esquire for publishing a piece yesterday saying the inside the Beltway polling models weren't accounting for Nevada's eccentricities.
I doubt the UFC's efforts helped a ton as what really stood out in favor of Reid was the Latino vote, which pre-election polling projected to be very low. But that's neither here nor there. The real question is: what does this mean for the UFC? We'll get to that in a minute.
In less positive news for MMA fans, New York Assemblyman Bob Reilly eeked out a close victory in his re-election bid last night:
Reilly, a Democrat first elected in 2004, defeated Republican Jennifer Whalen. The 109th District Assemblyman has been outspoken in his opposition to the sanctioning of MMA in the Empire State, opposing multiple bills proposing the sport's legalization in New York. It was a strong night for Reilly's political kin as well, as Democrats won the majority of New York's mid-term elections, according to CBS.com.
Let's take note of what this means for UFC and the sport of MMA and take a look at where we are headed.
1. We remain mostly at status quo. That is, in terms of leadership in key governing bodies, UFC's allies and enemies remain where they are. Federal MMA legislation isn't much of a priority and it isn't clear how the new Congressional make-up changes any potential introduction of legislation. But not so fast...
2. There is already talk in Washington that despite Reid's victory, Democratic party insiders are predicting Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois will replace Reid as Senate Majority Leader. One of the major advantages of Reid's placement is the ability to stop bills from reaching the Senate floor as well as general persuasiveness over Democratic party efforts (Reid is still well-liked by insiders). However, that power itself is overstated, particularly if legislation calling for federal regulation of MMA emerged from the House and buried in a more comprehensive bill about a tangential issue. In fact, if anyone is likely to exercise that power, it's Durbin, not Reid.
3. While much is made of Reilly's bulwark status in Albany, he isn't the real stumbling block. It's Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver. He is the epitome of entrenched political power and without his blessing, little is accomplished legislatively. Silver has no formal position on MMA, but is closely associated with Reilly. Overturning Reilly's view could help sway Silver, but that's unlikely. The key is turning or removing him. Speaking of removal...
4. The more positive news is that New York Governer-Elect Andrew Cuomo, who received donations from Zuffa for his campaign, appears to be on a collision course with Silver. It's too early to tell how that could play out, but if Cuomo is successful in getting rid of Silver, that removes arguably the most serious obstacle to overturning MMA prohibition in the state.
5. if the UFC is serious about their New York lobbying efforts, they have to correct the effort's largest failure to date: the absence of grassroots popularity for MMA legislation from New York citizens. Zuffa's effort thus far, while noble and not cheap, is basically failed carpetbagging. Reilly is the de facto voice for New York against the Las Vegas-based Zuffa trying to change laws in his state. And if New Yorkers aren't clamoring for change, can Zuffa really expect Albany to listen? Zuffa, through paid and earned media (among other tactics), must help create and facilitate a constituent-based movement that not only shows a significant number of New Yorkers want change, but also that small businessman and other key constituents are being harmed or forced to take business elsewhere because of the ban. In short, it has got to be a New York thing.
6. There are other players in the overall scope of regulatory efforts, so check out Mike Chiappetta's round-up.
For me, the federal front will be quiet. On Capitol Hill, the major priorities for the new Congress are likely to be K-12 education, Pell Grant cuts, health care legislation reformation, debt ceiling issues and other non-MMA related tasks. On the state-side, however, is where matters get interesting. I'm curious to see to what extent Zuffa ramps us lobbying in New York. They may elect not to do much, hoping third time's a charm. I hope they go with a more robust effort. Either way, the election preserves a situation where Zuffa will have to fight. Historically, that's something they've been good at.
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I wish I understood politics
Basically if this Zuffa backed Cuomo can take Silver’s job we could see MMA legalized even with Reilly still in office?
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Silver's job is going nowhere
All the UFC did was line the pockets of the new governor who is in the same political party as Reilly hoping that he’ll have influence on Reilly and Silver.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Reilly is not a done deal....
what with a lead of 577 and 2,000 absentee votes to still be counted, and possible more still en route…..
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Nov 3, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
wish people would do research instead of saying he won already...
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I'm so glad Reilly won
I want to beat HIM and no one else.
You’re right it has to be a New York thing. Which is why I’m shocked that the UFC isn’t involved with the MMA Expo that is going on in November. I mean M-1 will be there for goodness sakes. There’s also a nice program I was talking to The Fight Lawyer about going on in Harlem.
The UFC and MMA need to stop it with these weak tactics and go hard.
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And go fuck yourself Reilly
Goddamn it!!
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not only he doesnt support mma
but he illegalizes MMA in NY
and I live CT, which is right next to NY
i hope this comment helped you a lil bit
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He didn't make it illegal
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That pic is from the "get the vote out" rally they had.
It wasn’t from yesterday. It was a fake vote just for the pic.
Why? Why do you want him gone?
I thought MMA fans were about “good fights” and now people want the easy road?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn. I definitely gave a speech on MMA today and totally shit all over Reilly. I also intentionally perpetuated the Zuffa Myth to the semi-casuals and people who have no idea what MMA is in my class.
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by ChiCubs23 on Nov 3, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
UFC / Zuffa need to stop the focus on the economic impact studies
And put the focus back where it should be: safety. Their whole argument should be by not legalising and sanctioning it, you’re allowing fights to go underground where both fighters and spectators are at risk of negligence and incompetence at best, and organised crime involvement and death at worst. They should clarify Reilly is allowing this to happen by standing in the way of legalisation and regulation. They should make indirect suggestions that people like Reilly would rather have a black market spectacle they’d be blissfully ignorant of, rather than have the state government work to keep order and control and to protect American citizens at these events.
Zuffa and their lobbyists have to make their opponents look like that bad guys in this, but not in some cartoon way no one would believe. The economic positives of a UFC event in New York State is just icing on the cake, the real substances of a pro-legalisation argument is going to be public safety.
by KJ Gould on Nov 3, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I said that MONTHS ago
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 3, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember
and I was going to write a story on strategies to take on NY MMA but didn’t get around to it :P
Agree on the safety angle...
…..Underground Combat League already exists in NY (http://www.mmatko.com/new-york-state-the-underground-combat-league-mma-story/), because the state athletic commission does not have the resources to shut them down…
Focusing on the financial side is certainly what some politicians want/need to hear, but the safety record of UFC versus the certainty of a competitor getting seriously injured (or worse) in an underground show (with no doctor or Ambulance in sight) is what Silver and Reilly should really be contemplating….
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Nov 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Safety is not the issue
And it won’t work. I bet you any and all polling data would confirm that. Do New Yorkers really feel like the existing laws make people less safe? Please. They either don’t care or think the ban is keeping them safe.
The UFC could launch a media campaign to help paint the issue in this light, but that takes work and is a difficult case to make to the uninitiated on the issue. The more salient issue is a matter of sending business out of state, New York political bureaucracy and whatever else can be determined in dial sessions or focus groups.
However, I bet my entire life that safety is not the issue. You can’t sell that. You have to sell what prejudices already exist with minimal manipulation. Trying to argue the state is in a place of peril is silly.
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Nice use of salient...
….and sorry my point was not clear……Mr. Reilly has disputed ad nauseum the NY State tax benefits detailed in the initial Finanacial Impact Study released in 2008, so why not add something about the safety record to give him (and Mr. Silver) more to digest? Data analysts can revise and increase the revenue projections, but despite their best efforts those figures may fall on deaf ears again.
Personally, I like the added angle of:
Regulated NY MMA = Safe for competitors and attendees.
Ongoing, unregulated NY MMA = Unsafe for YOUR voting constituency.
Perhaps that makes me “silly”, but I don’t view this issue in that manner.
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Nov 3, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This naturally leads into
Cracking down on unregulated, illegal underground street fighting tournaments = Safety for everyone
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the problem with this country
corporations own our butts. Nobody thinks about what’s better for the people or America or the world. Everybody is trying to buy politicians. I am so sick and tired of Harry Reid. If you are a republican, you probably hate his guts. If you are a democrat, you probably hate his guts. He is just a politician that does and says everything to get elected. Forget the people.
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by SheepleBuster on Nov 3, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"There wasn't a man voting for it that didn't think that under a setup of this kind he'd muscle in on the profits of the men abler than himself...But while he was thinking that he'd get unearned benefits from the men above he forgot about the men below who'd get unearned benefits too. He forgot about all his inferiors that would rush to drain him just as he hoped to drain his superiors...That was our real motive when we voted. That was the truth of it. But we didn't like to think it. So the less we liked it the louder we yelled about our love for the common good."
by jrobb20 on Nov 3, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
god damnit...
Why couldn’t the UFC support prop 19??
Part of Nick Diaz’s contract?
"There wasn't a man voting for it that didn't think that under a setup of this kind he'd muscle in on the profits of the men abler than himself...But while he was thinking that he'd get unearned benefits from the men above he forgot about the men below who'd get unearned benefits too. He forgot about all his inferiors that would rush to drain him just as he hoped to drain his superiors...That was our real motive when we voted. That was the truth of it. But we didn't like to think it. So the less we liked it the louder we yelled about our love for the common good."
by jrobb20 on Nov 3, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WTF
all those damn potheads had a freaking chance to get that shit legal and they fucking wasted the opportunity. If they had just passed out vouchers for a free gram of purple kush after Prop 19 passed A LOT more people would have showed up to vote yes. Im so pissed that one of the most weed friendly states in the country couldn’t get it done. FUCK!
puts flame to bowl and inhales deeply
What was I talking about again? Oh yeah Brock Lesnar’s standup sucks!
People are just being programmed to believe that
pot makes you go insane and go on a killing rampage. I mean Alcohol is fine, even though scientists say it kills you. I am sick and tired of this crap
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by SheepleBuster on Nov 3, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen "The Union"
… if not, you should watch it…
by SkeezinSteevin on Nov 3, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The last time I smoked pot I ended up on a train in the middle of france with some dutch chick and no recollection of the night before. I am never touching that shit again.
by MattParker117 on Nov 3, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in Humboldt County. The growers and sellers got out the vote against Prop 19. It would have ruined their business.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
Fuck those selfish bastards. Let’s call them what they are: gangsters.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 3, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re businessmen. Prop 19 was bad for their business, so they fought against it. Nothing less, nothing more.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
I agree.
They ARE just business men, only trying to keep their business afloat, but what about the big picture…? I know It doesn’t matter, but I wish it did.
by SkeezinSteevin on Nov 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
AND
I’m not going to even pretend to know wha tI’m talking about, but I would be willing to bet that it was the same way with the prohibition of alcohol. Gangsters is right subo, it’s irritating…
by SkeezinSteevin on Nov 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If you were a care free pot grower, and you knew a law might be enacted that essentially put you out of business and forced you to get a real job, you would be getting out the vote against it too.
The bigger picture doesn’t matter to them. They only care about their bottom line and protecting their way of life. I don’t smoke pot and could care less either way, but they only did what they needed to do to keep their way of life. Can’t blame them in that regard.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
marijuana will never be legal in this country
the powers that be need the war on drugs. They need wars for everything. But Alcohol which is a much more dangerous substance, is perfectly allowed. And Magic mushroom? Forget about that. That’s worse than killing a person in this country
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by SheepleBuster on Nov 3, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Federally, yeah, I'll give you that...
But as far as state law goes… I think you’re wrong. I think it will be legal in some states within the next 5- 10 years.
by SkeezinSteevin on Nov 3, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Lookit Prohibition re: alcohol
Because what the hell else would we have to cope with? Positive thinking?
Honestly, I fail to see how Reid’s re-election affects MMA one way or the other.
"There wasn't a man voting for it that didn't think that under a setup of this kind he'd muscle in on the profits of the men abler than himself...But while he was thinking that he'd get unearned benefits from the men above he forgot about the men below who'd get unearned benefits too. He forgot about all his inferiors that would rush to drain him just as he hoped to drain his superiors...That was our real motive when we voted. That was the truth of it. But we didn't like to think it. So the less we liked it the louder we yelled about our love for the common good."
Maybe at the beginning of the next huge PPV Dana should make an announcement.
He should tell them to reach out to the proper people if they want MMA legalized in NY. I think a lot of casuals dont know its even illegal in NY a lot think its just a logistics issue since UFC is based out of NV. I think it should be an honest, sincere call out and challenge for MMA fans. I mean if you get people to be vocal and tweet and damn near harrass the new governor and others it will happen. Right now it doesnt because they see MMA as a fad and thats the real reason.
I mean look what happened when he told people to take issue with ESPN for releasing the fight results.
by Papercut Elbow on Nov 3, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a question – why must we have MMA in NY? So people can go see a show at MSG and pay $25 for parking, $12 for a hotdog and $8 for a beer? Really?
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
yes. Partially because anyone with a brain would take the subway to the garden and not have to pay for parking, but also because the saying “the world’s most famous arena” is not a joke. Things happening in the garden make people pay attention. There is lots of national media and attention in NY, it will b easier for them to cover something down the block, etc, etc.
Do you want the mainstream media to continue to increase its coverage...
….of the sport we all love? If you answered yes, then you want sanctioned MMA in NY. The Media coverage of the sport will increase exponentially for that first huge PPV at MSG.
- Take public transportation
- Eat at home
- Beer is expensive everywhere in Manhattan
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Nov 3, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen, I’m a huge fan of MSG. Most of my favorite boxing matches in history have taken place there. But thinking that if the UFC set up shop there it would suddenly make MMA more mainstream, is wack. NOTHING will change once they get to NY. It will just be one more event going on somewhere.
And why would the PPV be huge? The show is the same whether they’re in Vegas, Australia or Germany. An MSG PPV would be no different than any of those.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
This was a pretty funny quote:
Props to Esquire for publishing a piece yesterday saying the inside the Beltway polling models weren’t accounting for Nevada’s eccentricities.
Do they count the unions questioning why middle managers weren’t forcing their subordinates to vote democrat? That seems pretty special to me. SEIU is now just eccentric! Who would’ve thought. So props to Harrah’s and all those other SEIU-led boys ‘forcing’ the will of their people. Funny how a race that is promoting individuality and personal responsibility on one side is overcome by a group of thugs saying vote for Reid or you’ll be fired.
by Steven Abbott on Nov 3, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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