Mike Kyle vs. Antonio Silva Set for Strikeforce Dec. 4th
by Nick Thomas on Nov 29, 2010 2:39 PM EST
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Via Strikeforce press release:
Streaking STRIKEFORCE star Mike "Mak'' Kyle (18-7) will replace the injured Valentijn Overeem and take on former heavyweight world champion Antonio "Big Foot'' Silva (14-2) of Coconut Creek, Fla., by way of Brazil, in one of the featured televised fights on STRIKEFORCE: Henderson vs. Babalu this Saturday, Dec. 4, at Scottrade Center in St. Louis, live on SHOWTIME (10:00 p.m. ET, delayed on the West Coast).
Overeem, the older brother of STRIKEFORCE heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, withdrew Saturday after suffering an elbow injury.
December 4th, live on Showtime from St. Louis, Missouri:
Mike "MAK" Kyle (18-7-1)
Win Stephen Oliver - TKO (Punches) XMMA MMA 3
Win Ron Humphrey - Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) Strikeforce
Win Tony Lopez - Decision (Split) KOTC
Antonio "Pezao" Silva (14-2)
Win Andrei Arlovski - Decision (Unanimous) Strikeforce
Loss Fabricio Werdum - Decision (Unanimous) Strikeforce
Win Jim York - Submission (Arm-Triangle Choke) Sengoku
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Hope he’s getting serious cash for the L on his record.
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he upset Feijao
I wouldn’t rule out an upset here as well.
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Feijao was a smaller opponent and Kyle had a few more weeks to prepare.
MAK’s in for a beating here.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
we'll find out Saturday but I expect it to be competitive
Kyle has looked very good as of late.
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If it goes out of the first then I'll have to favor Kyle
but I’m convinced he’ll do something reckless and get caught in a submission in the first.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Bigfoot has the obvious advantage on the ground,
but Kyle’s BJJ is decent, and Silva hasn’t shown to be much of a submission threat.
I dont believe this...
Kyle is pretty slick…
He did catch Werdum in a decent armbar…I dont think that Bigfoot would have gotten out of it…
Kyle will win the 1st round then lose the second and third standing…
Bigfoot has better, more crisp Muay Thai…
Kyle goes hard in the 1st, then gasses.
Kyle looked very good early against Werdum also
He battered Fabrico on the feet before getting caught in a sub. I think Kyle has a chance if he can keep it standing.
All depends on his footwork and boxing though. I wouldn’t even risk a kick if I were Mike Kyle in this fight.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Battered?
I mean he landed one or two punches but it wasn’t like he had Werdum in trouble.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also
He didn’t get subbed. He lost a UD
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Huh?
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Whoops
I thought he was saying Fab subbed Bigfoot not Kyle. My bad. Carry on here.
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Maybe battered wasn't a good word to use
Kyle looked sharp on the feet. Werdum didn’t like it standing and tried to take it to the ground. “Getting the better of the standup” is probably more appropriate.
Still Kyle is a much faster and better athlete than Bigfoot. If he can stay off his back and use good boxing footwork. I could see him pulling a Frankie Edgar/BJ Penn type of decision. Though I don’t see him being able to stop Silva.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku995nv8PdA
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
That's to be expected though.
Werdum isn’t ever going to be comfortable on his feet. Still, I suppose we can agree that Kyle didn’t look bad and did land a few good shots.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
heard this on Ariel's show
Coker said Kyle is an in-shape 235 right now.
I know he just fought in Australia so he’s not out of shape
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Mak?! Mak!?
How about finding a real heavyweight to fight Silva? No? What the hell Strikeforce. What the hell!
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Because there's HWs lining up around the block to fight Bigfoot on less than a week's notice.
I’m pleasantly surprised they didn’t scrap the fight altogether.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Strikeforce seems to go on and on about how their heavyweight division is great and they have tons of excellent fighters and bla bla bla.
They found the one light heavyweight who’s fought a few times at heavyweight, who also does poorly at heavyweight, to fight a giant. Yeah, great job Strikeforce.
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Because it’s on 1 weeks notice. How hard is that to understand.
Do you remember UFC 116? Everybody bitched because only Chris Leben would take the fight on 2 weeks notice and that fight turned out to be pretty good right?
Now Strikeforce does have some really good hw’s but why would Barnett, Fedor, Werdum, Cormier, or anyone else want to fight on 1 weeks notice.
Yes, the fight turned out to be good, but Leben is an average sized middleweight while Akiyama should be fighting at welterweight (but isn’t).
Those heavyweights won’t fight, but what about getting a real heavyweight to fight Silva? What about Johnson or even Sefo? They both have fought recently and are actual heavyweights.
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This.
Why Lavar Johnson, Daniel Cormier or Shane Del Rosario wouldn’t take this fight is beyond me.
Why would they? They are all on track to develop into contenders in the division. Why rush it and risk both blowing that chance and potential serious injury?
The real question isn’t why they wouldn’t step up with one week’s notice it’s why none of those guys(or anyone else in the division) would step up to Bigfoot to start with. The “track” to developing into a contender in a division is to fight and beat a contender in the division. Silva has 16 fights, Lavar Johnson has 18, Del Rosario has 10 MMA fights and 8 kickboxing bouts and Daniel Cormier’s background speaks for itself. Sometimes if you want to be a big deal in a sport you have to step up and prove it, there are no “tracks” without risk.
Of course there are no tracks without risk, but when you are on one you don’t deviate on a whim. Lavar had two bullets in him a little more than a year ago and was in critical condition. I would say let him move at his pace, who knows what he walking around weight is right now. Cormier is set to headline next month’s Challenger card. Del Rosario needs one more bout with a real training camp and then he can step into the bigger cards. It is in both SF and these fighters interest not to take a fight like this on less than a week’s notice.
Lavar Johnson has been fighting for 6 years now (a year longer than Antonio Silva)and he’s fought twice since he was shot July 2009. So when is he going to attempt to step up in competition?
Shane Del Rosario has been fighting for four years and expressed a desire to fight Arlovski, so why not Antonio Silva?
Daniel Cormier is understandable but he’s also a guy who looks like he will be stepping up sooner than later. If you want to make a name you need to fight a name.
Why is Brett Rogers fighting in Cananda instead of this fight?
What’s Sergei Kharitonov doing? Anything at all?
Where are the so called “top” guys at for this fight? Props to Mike Kyle for stepping up but why was Valentijn Overeem in there to start with and where is all of Strikeforce’s heavyweight talent when Strikeforce needs them?
It is in both SF and these fighters interest not to take a fight like this on less than a week’s notice.
Oh it may not be of anyone’s best interest to take a fight with one week’s notice but sometimes it’s the guys who take the risk who get the rewards in the end. Still that doesn’t tell me why Strikeforce couldn’t get Bigfoot a dance partner to start with without going outside the company and signing a guy who hasn’t fought top competition in darn near a decade. Why did none of the heavyweights in Strikeforce step up to start with?
Kharitonov is training to fight at the K-1 Grand Prix.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think they have Lavar, Del Rosario, and Cormier on a specific schedule and they are going to keep them on it. I especially understand Johnson since he had a bullet in his gut and chest. I’ll leave that to his doctors and Strikeforce and not try to over analyze it. Kharitonov was already signed to K-1. I don’t know if Rogers will fight in Strikeforce again.
And they didn’t go outside the company to find someone. they signed a handful of GG fighters at the same time, including Valentijn and Kharitonov, and this was to be Valentijn’s debut.
Schedule for what? They only have a dozen or so heavyweights, whats the point of not having these guys step up and fight other guys in the company?
I especially understand Johnson since he had a bullet in his gut and chest. I’ll leave that to his doctors and Strikeforce and not try to over analyze it.He has fought twice in the year and a half since he was shot, there is no doctor saying “it’s ok for you to go back to fighting …. as long as it isn’t Antonio Silva”.
So why have Valentijn debut against Bigfoot instead of any of the other guys mentioned and get Bigfoot a fight more equatable to his status?
by who me on Nov 29, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As far as Lavar, I don’t know if he is sitting at or above 265 today and what a weight cut might entail. Where he is at conditioning wise. Especially for a fight he would need to be ready for in 6 days basically. No one does except him and his doctors.
Del Rosario and Cormier are on the Challenger cards right now. In 2011, they will step up to the bigger cards. It’s like saying why not throw Jon Jones in with a week’s notice if Rampage or Machida got hurt. It just doesn’t make sense after what they have put into the guy.
I’m not talking about 6 days notice I am talking about why they weren’t taking the fight to start with.
First, Lavar just fought at the end of October. As far as the other two, like I said, they are not on that level yet. They will get there next year, they all probably have one more Challenger card left before they step up to the Championship cards. They still will face a “gatekeeper” and Silva is not a “gatekeeper”, he is a contender.
Bigfoot wanted a fight before the end of the year. We don’t know the details of what the negotiations were with Strikeforce and his manager but from what I read they offered him Valentijn and he took it.
Lavar’s opponent was named like a week before his fight in October and they were already talking about Bigfoot fighting again then. It isn’t that far of a stretch. As far as the other two guys (or anyone else in Strikeforce) what’s the point of having a division with a dozen or so guys in it where you don’t have them fighting each other? Heck a lot of these guys aren’t getting booked at all, I’m not asking you to explain the mechanics I was just questioning the matchmaking that got us to this point to start with.
Who is the prospect to conteder gatekeeper for Strikeforce heavyweights then? Is it Arlovski? Well he just fought Silva. Is it a veteran like Valentijn? No he was booked to fight Silva. Brett Rogers? Josh Barnett? Kharintonov? These “prospects” are going to either have to step up and fight the guys who are there are they aren’t going to go anywhere in Strikeforce, guys like Rogers and Silva are the middle of the pack guys for them to work up through.
Yeah, I would say Arlovski is a Strikeforce gatekeeper at this point in his career. I think his Silva fight was his last shot at fighting against the upper tier. I think now he will fight one of these guys next. Probably Cormier. Del Rosario is supposed to fight in February. Rogers I think should be bumped to gatekeeper status but I don’t think he thinks he should be there yet. But, when his purse runs out he will probably take a fight against one of the prospects. If not, I don’t think he will fight in Strikeforce again. But, I think you could see Del Rosario and Cormier facing Rogers and Arlovski by late spring. That’s a good progression for them.
As far as the recent signings we have to see what they have these days. Coker tried to get Alistair to face Silva, then Fedor. Neither wanted the fight. Barnett isn’t licensed yet. He probably felt he needed a name and that Valentijn would attract at least curiosity, if not interest in a future Ubereem/Silva bout.
Arlovski has been dropping off lately but he’s still a pretty damn tough gatekeeper and not really that much below Silva.
Brett Rogers jumping up to fight Arlovski when he did is the kind of thing that makes a fighter’s career, though that probably wouldn’t hold true now where Arlovski stands. A win over Bigfoot Silva would though. It’s the kind of fight that a hopeful prospect should be gunning for.
For Arlovski it has just been too long since his last win. Can’t believe it was Nelson. He is going to have to face one of the young three.
I think any one of them would want the shot at Silva, I just doubt they were offered it. I think Coker is still hoping that Fedor resigns and he can have Silva face him while Reem and Werdum have their bout. But, if he can’t get Fedor to sign then he would have had Silva face Reem and Fedor face Werdum. The fight against the brother would have heightened some interest in that bout with Reem.
Either way, I think he is reserving Lavar, Del Rosario, and Cormier as the next gen in a similar way UFC built Cain and JDS while the older, established guys fought each other. That’s what I see next year being. We’ll see.
Agreed about the Overeem part
I think an aspect of it was hoping Ubereem would be game after Bigfoot cracked his brother.
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by The American Ronin on Nov 30, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
There is a misconception
that Big Foot is a can (maybe because M-1 wanted Fedor to fight him), but he is far from. Outside of the 4 top SF HWs and the top 4 UFC HWs, he is a legit threat to anyone.
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by The American Ronin on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
He’s not a can he’s the guy in Strikeforce that apparently no one wants to fight. He’s the guy everyone seems to be ducking except for AA and Werdum.
That is why I said
…but he is far from. I think the top guys there look fighting him much as the top UFC LHWs looked at fighting Jon Jones a year or so ago – an extremely high risk, low reward fight.
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by The American Ronin on Nov 30, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Because, on a weeks notice
they would likely lose.
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by The American Ronin on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a week’s notice against one of the tougher Heavyweights out there in Antonio Silva. It doesn’t matter if Strikeforce has a great Heavyweight division because it’s still a short notice fight, and if one of the prospects like Cormier, Johnson, or Del Rosario takes a loss here, their momentum will be stalled. For the other Heavyweights, I would think that most fighters are savvy enough to know that Antonio Silva is an opponent that one would need a full training camp for. Kyle just fought in Australia pretty recently, so he is not that out of shape. To be honest, getting Kyle is actually very good for them.
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In my personal opinion, getting Kyle to fight is a poor decision. Do I respect him for taking a fight on short notice? Yes. Do I think it’s a smart move by Strikeforce to get Kyle? No.
We agree to disagree.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Awe, Subo, you made me smile.
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I am proud of SF...
This is one of very few good replacement moves that SF has made…
They need to keep Bigfoot warm…for the title picture…
They basically want Kyle to put up a good fight and lose…
Kyle has played spoiler before.
I dont care if its a HW vs a LHW…
If thats the only way to get a SF HW to fight, then so be it.
I suppose that getting some sort of scrub Heavyweight would be sufficient to fight Silva in that it won’t hurt Kyle if/when he goes back to Light Heavyweight, so I see your point in that respect. However, to use that “Strikeforce seems to go on and on about how their heavyweight division is great and they have tons of excellent fighters and bla bla bla” is really just a cheap shot at Strikeforce, and it shows a lack of understanding of why a good Heavyweight shouldn’t fight Antonio SIlva at a week’s notice as I have explained above and many other posters have explained.
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No, they got a guy who has a history of stepping up on late notice to fill in for an injured fighter. Strikeforce does have a solid HW division; that doesn’t mean that all of those fighters are able or willing to step up and fight a fringe top ten contender on a week’s notice. Instead of being pissed that Silva isn’t fighting an irrelevant Valentijn Overeem you should be happy that there is a fighter that is willing to step in so that he’ll still be on the card.
The whining about Strikeforce is out of control on this site.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I respect Kyle for standing up.
And, I’m not whining. I’m annoyed. I don’t typically whine about Strikeforce, but they do make a lot of bad decisions, and I think throwing in Kyle to fight Silva is one of them.
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By the way, if the UFC had a top ten heavyweight fight a light heavyweight moving up to heavyweight, people on this site would be going crazy. So excuse me for complaining about Strikeforce.
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You seem to be of the opinion that an out of shape HW bottom feeder is a better replacement than an in shape Kyle; I disagree.
Kyle has a history of fighting (and winning) at HW, and he’s not exactly a small guy. He’s the best Strikeforce has got on this late of notice and is a perfectly respectable replacement for an injured Valentijn. In fact in the modern MMA world Kyle is probably more relevant than Alistair’s less skilled brother.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather watch othereem.
Kyle beat Sims and Irvin at heavyweight. That means nothing to me. He’s much better at light heavyweight. I really think Strikeforce should have and could have done better by getting a real heavyweight to fight.
I know we disagree, but that’s my opinion.
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HWs are prone to gassing as a general rule.
That problem is magnified when they don’t have time to train. If you were to throw an out of shape Rogers or Sefo or whoever else you have in mind in against Bigfoot it would be a train wreck. Kyle is in shape, therefore he’s a better replacement.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
You mean like if the UFC tried to book Randy fighting Lesnar for example?
by fitefan on Nov 29, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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What?
1) Randy Couture was the heavyweight champion.
2) Randy requested Brock as his comeback fight as a condition for ending his holdout.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Randy and Kyle walk around at about the same weight and are both able to cut to 205. Randy moved up to HW because he couldn’t cut it at LHW and thought the HW division was weak. Turned out he was right.
by fitefan on Nov 29, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Randy is a two time heavyweight champion and one of the greatest MMA heavyweights of all time.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
It is common knowledge that sometimes it is
better to be smaller and quicker than bigger and slower…
Thats what Randy was exploiting at HW…
But, when the competition was bigger and faster(Brock, Junior, Cain, maybe Carwin) thats when Randy decided to act in movies…
Randy is business savvy, Chuck is not…
Randy didn't request Brock...
I saw an interview where he talked about them bringing that offer to the table.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Don't have one off hand
if you want to research this to bring clarification to this issue, be my guest.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
That's not how it works
You’ve made a claim that goes against the conventional wisdom that Randy requested Brock. You can martial evidence for your claim, but don’t ask others to do your work for you.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Your claim is against the conventional wisdom.
The UFC offered Brock to Couture is how it’s always been phrased.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t give a shit about how it’s phrased – I worked the Goddamn conference call when Randy announced his return. He requested Brock.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Naw.
The UFC may have had him spin that or something. Lesnar for the UFC title was all the UFC’s idea. Subo; be real.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's pretty common knowledge
that Randy requested Brock for a big money pay day. Which is okay, a lot of casual MMA fans don’t know why that situation played out the way it did. If you dispute the general way that situation is understood the onus is on you to provide evidence.
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by Chris Barton on Nov 29, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd never heard that but
I did find some sherdog threads without links that seem to suggest Couture may have done that, posted by casuals.
I did however find an interview where Randy seems to suggest the UFC booked it because they want big fights. Of course this could be spin on Couture’s part too.
MMA Stomping Grounds: Do you think Lesnar deserves a title shot against you?
Randy Couture: It’s really not my call. I don’t think they are pretending Lesnar is the No. 1 contender, but I think first and foremost the UFC wants to put on big fights and this is a big fight.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’s known as “being full of shit”. What’s he gonna say? “Um, no, but dolla dolla bills yall”?
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
And that casual crack was incredibly pretentious
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
It should look familiar.
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by Chris Barton on Nov 29, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Holy hell
That tony johnson crack was a freakin’ joke. As if anyone would really say not knowing who Johnson was would be the mark of a casual. I don’t think I’d ever heard of him until the week of that fight. How many times I gotta say this? Is “casual fan” a worse insult than a Roganism for “weak and pathetic” or something? God damn.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
but apparently you find it incredibly pretentious.
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by Chris Barton on Nov 29, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't, I just repeated a similar response
to the ones yesterday, because I figured it was related to that. Calling me a casual is like calling a heroin junkie covered in filth and track marks a lightweight square, and I am still surprised everyone took a response about tony johnson so serious.
Especially because I had talked to that guy specifically about other stuff earlier this month.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Good to know
you routinely post things you don’t actually mean. Noted.
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by Chris Barton on Nov 30, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I love you
I really mean that baby.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 30, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
You’re being ridiculous,
So now whatever Capt. America says goes?
The UFC obviously knew it was the best decision from a business perspective to give Lesnar the title shot, he was a proven draw and so is Randy.
To think Randy has any sway over match-making is completely out of line and straight up ignorant.
This is what's straight up ignorant
Randy was holding out at the time. Of course they’d let him control his future if it meant getting their champ back into the Octagon.
It’s common knowledge that Randy requested this fight and the UFC obliged. It is not unprecedented that a guy that may not deserve it gets a title shot. But Lesnar won. So it’s all moot.
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by Charles Awad on Nov 29, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
See now thats the difference..
Cain (2-0) and Werdum (2-1 with wins over Gonzaga and Vera…both whose last losses where to the respective heavyweight champs at the time)could all have gotten the opportunity but didn’t because they dont draw 500k+ viewers like Lesnar’s does.
Lesnar was 2-1 with a loss to Mir and a decision victory over Herring who hadnt had back-to-back victories since 2005…
It’s all business, I don’t see what’s so hard to understand about that.
You are the one with the failure to understand.
Everyone knows that it was good business for the UFC.
But is it a coincidence that Randy turned down the Nog fight but decided to stop trying to leave when Randy came on the table?
Who brought it up originally is pointless. Randy came back to fight Brock.
Exactly
whether Dana said “Randy, I know you want the biggest fight possible, what do you think about fighting Brock” or Randy said "I want the biggest fight, wouldn’t Brock be the biggest fight possible right now? really doesn’t matter.
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by The American Ronin on Nov 30, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Randy wasn’t technically in the UFC at the time, the Lesnar fight was part of what brought him back in, of course Randy had quite a bit of pull in the negotiations that brought him back to the UFC with a new/better contract.
No dude
Randy desperately wanted to fight Fabricio Werdum but Dana White slapped him with a newspaper and sent him to the kennel. No one denies this!
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping for his link
but of course, he didn’t produce one.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Haha. What?
What are you talking about? I just disagreed with the idea Randy booked that fight. The UFC offered Couture that fight to come back, with a pay raise and he accepted. That is the conventional wisdom. I said I heard it in an interview with the Old Man once but provided no link. He said he heard it in the conference call, but provided no link That’s all.
Like I said, find a link and settle this huge controversy lol.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
You are the only person saying that's conventional wisdom.
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Link
But like anyone else, I’ve been wrong before.
I’m poking around on google a little bit but not finding exactly what I’m looking for.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Find you a link showing you that it's not conventional wisdom?
Huh …
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C'mon man. I was asking for the link I'd asked for in
like three previous posts. Not about conventional wisdom. You seemed to come down on the side of folks who believe Randy asked the UFC for the fight. Not that this really matters now almost three years down the road.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
You assume wrongly. I’ve made one comment, and it was related to conventional wisdom. In that, you are twisting things in your favor because it suits your argument, how can you speak to conventional wisdom and call yourself a bigger authority on something than somebody else? Citing conventional wisdom is a silly, silly thing.
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I was just basing it off of
all the conversations and articles I’ve read over the years that attribute Lesnar getting that shot to the UFC cashing in on Brock’s name. I’d never heard Couture specifically asked for Lesnar, and that that is how the fight came about.
This is a shitstorm.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone has been saying it’s one way for years and everything I have ever read said it was one way but you say it’s different and then become a smart ass when asked for a link. If you have a link then I would love to see it because something that goes against what pretty much everyone has been saying for years is a big deal but honestly if you are just going to be a smart ass then why bother?
I spend incredibly too much time
in the mma nerdsphere and I never heard it this way.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
It’s all I’ve ever heard anyone say, heck I’ve said it myself numerous times. Randy Couture wanted the biggest money fight he could get to come back to the UFC (and who could blame him). People get onto the UFC for giving Brock the shot so early but that doesn’t mean that Randy wasn’t after it to cash in too, that’s two different issues here. I don’t doubt the UFC was also into making a huge bag of loot of the fight also.
There were reasons all around but if you have something that says Randy wasn’t after that big money fight when he re-signed then that would be interesting to read.
I don't doubt that Randy was interested in making a big pay day
and taking what he thought should have been an easy fight. I just never knew it was his idea in the first place. However after looking this up for far too long, all I can find that says as much are BE comment threads and sherdog threads. Oh well. I remember an interview from years ago where he discusses coming back to the UFC and I could have sworn he said he was offered the fight by the UFC.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
And he could have said that
in this interview I saw and been spinning the facts.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
He may not of said “I want Brock or else” but he was looking for the biggest drawing fight and Brock was by far the biggest money fight in the UFC. In the end it’s all gets to the same thing, Randy got exactly what he was after and re-signed with the UFC.
not exactly
Getting his eggs scrambled wasn’t in the equation.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Randy in his free time uses body by jake
princess
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
That’s cold. Anyway, too much faith in him. I bet he gets divorced at least once more.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
You should read more of my stuff.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
As far as I can tell
Strikeforce is AIDS, and Brock is the p4p best fighter in history. I think I’ve got your platform down.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Except its not
the conventional wisdom is that Randy requested Brock as his next fight.
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by The American Ronin on Nov 30, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
They did
they brought in my buddy Mike Ciesnolevicz to loose to Neil Grove. Too bad it didn’t go as planned :)
Don’t remember the reaction, if any, on this site. Not nearly as marquee a fight as Bigfoot/Overeem. Sometimes these guys coming in on short notice can surprise you though. I’ll admit, I think Bigfoot’s going to kick his ass, but that’s ok, Silva’s turned me into a fan recently. He seems like he’s finally putting it all together this past year or two.
by mictlantechutli on Nov 29, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
oops
missed the top ten part of the comment.
by mictlantechutli on Nov 29, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, it's MIKE KYLE
I’d have issues with any organization giving him money to fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, it's MAIQUEL FALCAO
I’d have issues with any organization giving him money to fight.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Put his video next to Kyle’s and tell me they’re the same.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Strikes on an opponent after the ref steps in?
Same offense, you just conveniently gloss over Falcao due to his current employer. Not a surprise though, you never really made a big deal about Yvel in the UFC either. Wonder why.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not true
I repeatedly criticized Zuffa for having Yvel on the roster.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
By that definition
Rampage = Kyle because of the Wanderlei fight. I don’t buy it.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
There are varying degrees. Rampage was certainly in the wrong for continuing to punch an unconscious opponent as the ref was trying to pull him off, although not as bad as Kyle. Falcao on the other hand is a much closer comparison.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not this please
Just take a nap for a few hours. I don’t want to have to go over this again.
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dude
are you serious?
Bigfoot is a HW contender and top 15 HW by most accounts, what other contender is going to take him on at less than a week’s notice?
The UFC would have a hard time getting a good opponent for a top contender in less than a week, last time I remember them doing that is Jon Fitch/Ben Saunders. Is Overeem/Kyle a bigger drop than Alves/Saunders? No, it’s probably an improvement.
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I know I kinda rambled at the end but who else were you expecting >.<
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C’mon, who is going to face him at this late date? I wracked the list. Kharitonov? Fighting in K-1 the following week. Barnett? Has his hearing this week with CSAC, no license. Obviously not The Reem/Fedor/Werdum. That would be both impossible and a waste at this late date. Cormier is set to headline January’s challenger card. Del Rosario needs one more bout before facing this competition. This is a great replacement at this late date.
Johnson? Sefo? I know you ruled out Rosario, but I think he’d be better than Kyle.
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You are just getting Johnson back healthy and on a decent schedule. Who knows what his weight is right now. You are going to ask him to cut to make it for this card? Sefo? Really? Not interested. He is not a real MMA fighter at 39 and two total fights, his last one over a year ago. He is a K-1 guy who tries to pad his wallet with MMA if he can. No reason to waste Del Rosario right now. Both he and Cormier are rising stars that are developing. Let them develop and they will be competing at the top very soon. This is a perfectly fine replacement.
Sefo!?!?! Thats a lot worse than Kyle
by Papercut Elbow on Nov 29, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I know he just lost at K1, but at least he’s in shape and a real heavyweight. To me, he’s better than Kyle.
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Ray Sefo better than Mike Kyle
Is this a troll?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I strongly dislike Kyle (hate is too strong) but Sefo has nothing on Kyle in MMA.
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I’m not a troll. Don’t be a jerk. You should know better.
But if there’s a concern that an upcoming HW’s career could be lost or whatever and the issue that there aren’t better HW’s for Silva to fight, Sefo is a possibility. At least he is a legitimate heavyweight. I know he only has two mma fights, but he has tons of K1 experience.
I know he’s not the best option, but I prefer him over Kyle.
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I didn't say you were a troll, I asked if what you were saying was a troll.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Your reasoning for that is indefensible though.
An untrained out of shape Sefo who has accomplished nothing in MMA is a better option than Kyle because he weighs an insignificant amount more? Think about that for a second before you respond.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Kyle has been fighting at light heavyweight but this still should be interesting. Still it’s shame with all the heavyweight talent Strikeforce has they had to go to a guy who has been focusing on LH.
its a good match-up for a one week fight...
No other contender is going to risk fighting Bigfoot with just one week.
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by TylerTreese on Nov 29, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this is what people dont understand your not gonna find a lot of fighters that want to step up on 1 weeks notice and also to fight a guy like Bigfoot Silva.
I'm surprised we got a name opponent
thought it’d be a simple tune-up fight for Bigfoot not a legit match-up.
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Oh definately for the circumstances it’s pretty good, I was just pointing out the irony of having all those heavyweight signed but them having to get a light heavyweight to fill in. All the props in the world to Kyle for stepping up as a late replacement for fight very few in the heavyweight division wanted to take to start with (contender or not). Bigfoot Silva is more than a lot of these so called “top heavyweight” want to take on to start with.
Lots of respect for Mike Kyle here.
Not an easy task to step up to heavyweight and take on a monster like Silva on 6 days notice, especially when he was all but set to face Mousasi in February. This is a more interesting bout than the Valentijn enigma. Good job salvaging this one, SF.
exactly! this is a better match
SF is going to get hate no matter what they do. This is a fantastic replacement match. It’s not like Kyle is a small guy, he’s 6’3" and 235+ lbs.
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I think this could have been a better match-up if Mike Kyle had adequate time to train for this fight.
I feel that Kyle is actually a better opponent for Antonio Silva than Valentjin Overeem in that Kyle is actually on a pretty decent win streak here, and he has fought at Heavyweight before.
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Kyle nearly pulled off a triangle against Werdum
(possibly an armbar, one of the two). He’s game, and this is a good matchup.
Colin Cowherd is more annoying than the Progressive radio commercials.
This is a better fight than Othereem.
People are actually criticizing this? Really?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
but he doesn't weight 245+!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t understand the bashing of this fight. Makes absolutely no sense.
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Total props to Mike Kyle.
Stepping up on a week’s notice to fight a legit heavyweight like Antonio Silva is almost guaranteed failure, but regardless if he wins or not, this is a great opportunity for him. If he wins, the rewards are obvious, but even if he loses, which odds are he will, he puts himself in Strikeforce’s good graces for being a “team player”.
win or lose I wanna see him against Roger Gracie
Glad Kyle is healthy enough after his fight in Australia.
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Barring any injuries resulting for this fight, we could still see Roger Gracie/ Mike Kyle in January.
never signed.
Kyle had commitments in Australia already so he couldn’t fight.
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Mike Kyle deserves major respect
BUT…he should be fighting for the title against Feijao, not being put in as a lamb against Silva.
Kyle's a game opponent
Has been fighting back and forth between LHW and HW for a while now.
Very interested in seeing how this one goes down now
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i like this better than overeem
mike kyles a tough motherfucker, he’ll give bigfoot a fight
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I was
Thinking the EXACT same thing. Look, I’d like to see how Uber’s little bro is doing, but I’ll tell you what, win or lose, Kyle is gonna bring it.
exactly
why should any of us not like that a guy whose been armbarred by gilbert yvel is being replaced by a guy whos undefeated in his past 6 fights
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kyles is pretty rough too
the dqs and no contests are pretty bad, the guys a scumbag. but bigfoots been popped for roids so its not exactly like we have two morally righteous people fighting
overeem hasnt beaten anyone ive heard of in years though, kyle at least has a few nice wins on his record. they’re mostly at lhw but still at least hes fighting and beating some tough dudes
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the last NC wasn't bad
he hit him right after the bell rung, it wasn’t like he did it on purpose.
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The Battle of Two Men who are the only ones who believe in their hype....
I hope Kyle wins, tired of hearing Bigfoot talk smack about other heavyweights who are better than him.
I believe bigfoots hype
He’s legit.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't believe the Bigfoot hype...yet
He is a pretty good HW, but his second best win so far is a SD victory over Ricco Rodriguez. The Arlovski fight also made it look like he can’t finish decent level HWs, even if they have glass jaws.
That was his best performance.
AA has only ever been KO’d by atomic power punchers. I thought he looked awesome.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Atomic power punchers like Datsik?
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
debut fight
now you’re just reaching for things to disagree with me on.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
You should actually watch that fight.
Possibly the most hilarious MMA match I’ve ever seen.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
youtube?
I’ve never seen it myself. Going to find it now.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Nice, fight professor and bas in the house
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
It's probably my favorite fight to show people
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
i think you say things just to say them
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
That fight was ridiculous
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't look good for my case
that AA’s chin isn’t as bad as everyone says it is.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
It's the shots you don't see that hurt the worst.
Unfortunately for Arlovski, he doesn’t see any punches coming and defends against them accordingly. Check out how low his hands are when the KO shot comes, it’s ridiculous.
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by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ever seen Wiuff vs Jardine?
I had been known to defend his chin too.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I love the ref most of all
He essentially says “no, that’s stupid” and stands them up several times.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
People are counting Kyle out too soon
He won’t have to cut weight for one. Although he is outmatched in size as well as having little time to prepare, I think if he can keep the fight standing he will get the better end of the exchanges. If he gets taken down, good night.
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cormier would be better...
I don’t care about the lack of experience, daniel c. would give bigfoot a better fight than kyle. But I like kyle, hyave been able to watch some of his fights via hdnet/online streaming and I like his style.
If you were Daniel Cormier,
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Strikeforce is a disgrace for continuing to employ Mike Kyle. CSAC is just as bad for licensing him. Screw that guy.
by Steve4192 on Nov 29, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This
A guy that shouldn’t be fighting at all replacing a guy that didn’t belong in the ring with Bigfoot.
It’s not a huge falloff, but it’s a falloff.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
yer link don't work.
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Yeah, you are taking the video out of context...
Look/listen to that environment…It is NOT the UFC…It is not the same thing!
Show a video of Nate Diaz stomping on Mayhems head…It is not the UFC’s environment…It is not the same MMA…
Look at the ref…He is not even wearing respectable clothing…
DO you think the NFL gives a shit about how many tiimes Cam Newton cheated on tests, or how many laptops he stole?? NO!
Maybe the Heisman judges do, but Cam Newton will get drafted as the #1 pick for the Carolina Panthers…
Dana does not care what happened at some crazy cage fight in Brazil…
Just like Dana did not care that Kimbo punched some fat guys eye out at a BBQ.
Fightlinker has that on the front page
I was unaware of the incident before the last card (I sincerely hope Zuffa was not). That said, it’s bad, but it’s not in the same league of what Kyle did.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if you can call one worse than the other.
Kyle’s most egregious action of his assault was the illegal shin to the face that started off the assault. During Falcao’s attack he preceded to hit his victim with 5 to 6 clean hammerfists after the referee had already intervened. The way they went about carrying out their assaults was different, but both were equally disgusting and, most importantly, equally illegal.
The difference is Falcao doesn’t have an established pattern of that kind of behavior. To the best of my knowledge, Falcao has not had multiple disqualifications for ignoring the rules. Kyle does. He’s been DQed for a laundry list of different infractions, and got away with some other stuff that would have got him DQed if the ref had seen it.
I’ll definitely be keeping my eye on Falcao and would hope Zuffa would send him packing if he ever pulled anything like that in the UFC.
Facts are nice too though
He’s been DQ’d once. He had a fight ruled an NC once for an accidental thumb in Polish Experiment’s eye, but your “laundry list” is one fight long.
Kyle made a mistake. Get over it.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
He also bit Wes Sims if I'm not mistaken.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Man
You are consistently choosing the wrong positions to defend.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Derek
Your positions are a little preachy for my tastes. People deserve second chances and third chances even. Kyle is a great fighter who has made changes in his life. The fight everyone harps on happened at WEC 20. Time to move on.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I simply don’t want to give him another opportunity to do so. Nobody’s saying he can’t work for a living – he just shouldn’t be allowed to be a professional fighter anymore. Keeping your cool is kind of key to that profession.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
So one strike and you're out?
That flies in the face of the values of our free society. Too high and mighty for my tastes or most people who live in this nation, thankfully.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on the strike(s).
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Should Andre Johnson be banned from the NFL? Pacman Jones?
Michael Vick?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
If you're serious here
This is incredible.
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I just want to see
if subo’s logic is uniformly applied.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Across all sports? No.
This is because different sports at different stages of public acceptance, popularity and regulation are… different.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Fighting a little bit after the bell isn't going to harm a sport more than what Johnson did
People are not going to change their opinion on a sport because of something that happened at WEC 20. You’re paranoid.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Andre Johnson should be suspended for atleast 1 game
They officially said that Johnson was not suspended because it would put Houston at a disadvantage for their game against the Eagles…
That is BULLSHIT!!!
Go JETS!
Mike Kyle is nothing like the Andre Johnson or Pacman Jones or Michael Vick scenario.
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Well, there’s that too.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Andre Johnson fighting with a guy when he aint supposed to is
not the same? What those other guys did was significantly worse.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Vick and Pacman incidents had nothing to do with football, and Andre Johnson didn’t kick an unconscious fighter in the face.
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you'll be happy to know Kyle didn't do that either!
An illegal soccer kick when he was on his knees. Have you seen the incident or just read Derek’s stuff on it?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen it
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Why say he kicked an unconscious fighter in the face?
When he threw the kick while the guy wasn’t rocked and just on his knees?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
We just watched a boxer who tried to fight with basically hardened plaster in his gloves get the crap kicked out of him for 12 rounds. I think we can forgive Mike Kyle after 4+ years and feed him to Bigfoot.
by memitim on Nov 29, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Um
I was kind of against Margarito fighting, too.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Its so weird promotions don’t check with you first hand to see if they are crossing some moral lines.
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One day, man. One day.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
He was DQ’d once. The Olsen fight was legit DQ. It was a huge mistake, he lost control in a way no fighter should, and he didn’t fight for almost two years as a result. The Wiuff decision came later as they had to review the video because the shot was so close to the bell. On a card that has Semtex on it Mike Kyle has done his time. Folks are getting a little high and mighty on this.
by memitim on Nov 29, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He also bit Wes Sims
"We just had a near life experience."
Semper Fi' (Now a proud member of Couch Company, 1st Civ Div.)
Pain don't hurt...
And KO'd that one dude a good 2 mississippi after the bell
"We just had a near life experience."
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Pain don't hurt...
They awarded him the win and then reversed it much later to a NC after they looked at the video. When it is that close, and in combination of blows it is not intentional. I just watched the Sims fight too and there is never an obvious moment where he bites him. Like I said, The Olsen fight is totally on him. He deserved to be DQ’d and punished for that. But, the Wiuff fight? No. What Noons did to Gurgel was worse than that.
That was unintentional.
Human’s crave boogymen to vilify.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
What about the bite? Or the soccer kick/multiple punches after the KO?
We ain’t making this shit up!
"We just had a near life experience."
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Pain don't hurt...
when did he bite him in that fight?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
I was waiting for someone to post this^^^.
Dude is a scumbag.
"We just had a near life experience."
Semper Fi' (Now a proud member of Couch Company, 1st Civ Div.)
Pain don't hurt...
that is fighter bashing
everyone makes mistakes.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
but he makes them
over and over and over again.
Dirty M F’er
"We just had a near life experience."
Semper Fi' (Now a proud member of Couch Company, 1st Civ Div.)
Pain don't hurt...
He threw a soccer kick at a WEC
and fought through the ref, but what else has he done that is so bad?
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Bit Wes Simms
KO after the bell
"We just had a near life experience."
Semper Fi' (Now a proud member of Couch Company, 1st Civ Div.)
Pain don't hurt...
unintentional
and what part of the fight did he bite dude, not disputing, just wondering.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Kyle may be a scumbag, but he is a scumbag that brings it. If Yvel can get relicensed why can’t he? Same with Daley.
Daley does not deserved to be mentioned in the same breath as guys like Kyle and Yvel. One isolated incident of idiocy is not comparable to a career full of dirty tactics and a flagrant disregard for the rules. Kyle and Yvel both should have been blacklisted for their repeated infractions. Daley has stayed within the rules for the vast majority of his career.
by Steve4192 on Nov 29, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
this ^
"We just had a near life experience."
Semper Fi' (Now a proud member of Couch Company, 1st Civ Div.)
Pain don't hurt...
Daley and Yvel should not get second Chances...
They have NO ground game!
Agreed
Though I don’t like Daley either, he’s not in Yvel and Kyle’s class. Neither is Falcao (yet)
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
From your magnus opus.
After the fight. AFTER THE FIGHT. When you sign a contract for a fight, there are areas of it that address liability int he sense that "this illegal strike would technically be assault on the street, but it’s just a DQable offense in here and you don’t get to sue/press charges on top of whatever happens in the ring assuming the fighter yields to the ref." That’s why Sims and Kyle are different. That’s why what Daley did had the potential to be so much worse.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Daley could have gone to jail for what he did very easily
I don’t want Daley, Barnett, Kyle or Yvel in the UFC.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
People don't deserve second chances?
Does that apply to message boards and blogs too? Cause if so, don’t think either of us would be here right now. Just sayin’.
I want to see the best fighters fight and really don’t care to sit on a moral soap box and declare who and who doesn’t deserve to make a living.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never assaulted someone on a message board. That kind of shit jeopardizes every single fighter out there. Don’t think the Dark Ages can come back? Think again.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Does Andrei Johnson deserved banned
from the NFL?
Fighters fighting after the bell, committing occasional fouls and a brawl here or there isn’t going to hurt this sport anymore than a bench clearing brawl hurts baseball. The idea that a few random smattering of incidents like this will bring back the dark ages to the sport is patently absurd.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
There are forces waiting for an excuse to ban MMA in America again. Not so for baseball or football.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
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Still Subo at Fightlinker.com
by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
MMA is here to stay bud
and Mike Kyle is not a danger to it’s future. Be real my friend.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
i mean yvel became a new man
at least i think … ko’ing referee was the most disgusting moment in mma but he didn’t cause any trouble for a while now.
Nothing but RESPECT for Matt "The Terror" Serra
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Actually, the KO of the referee doesn’t bother me that much once you hear the backstory and watch the whole fight. That ref was also his opponent’s manager and had made quite a few highly questionable calls in his favor. Granted, Yvel was stupid for taking a fight where his opponent’s manager acts as the referee, but that whole fight was shady as hell from the get go.
Yvel is still a dirty fighter and Zuffa disgraced themselves when they brought him in, but that is the one incident of his that doesn’t bother me all that much.
I just watched the Yvel KO of the ref again. C’mon. That was a complete sucker punch on a puny ref with a kick to the gut to boot. He was just trying to get them to resume the clinch before they went into the ropes. Kyle lost control, no doubt and deserved to be punished. It’s not on the same level as Yvel’s infractions over the years. Not close.
So Vick can electrocute dogs
But play anyway, but guys who have been clean for years now can’t make amends for past mistakes?
Seems harsh and unfair.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yvel is a scumbag too.
Daley just lost it.
"We just had a near life experience."
Semper Fi' (Now a proud member of Couch Company, 1st Civ Div.)
Pain don't hurt...
for a second
I was like “what the fuck, are you serious SF?”
but after i remembered who big foot was going to fight: Big Ubereem
I had to praise SF
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Right now,
Mike Kyle is probably a better fighter than Minoreem. One week’s notice makes it tough, but still.
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The card is actually better now than a week ago.
Bigfoot/Kyle Radach/Lopes > Bigfoot/Oldreem Walker/Carson
Hardcore fans might feel that way, but Walker’s injury was a MASSIVE loss in terms of being able to draw press coverage and casual fans.
you'd be surprised
But this card is much better now.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
Was dreading the Walker fight.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Nov 29, 2010 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This fucking guy
"Tim Sylvia’s sphincter is demonstrably weaker than Andrei Arlovski’s chin." – hlebtasic
by Anthony Pace on Nov 29, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
It’s clear we can never be friends.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Nov 29, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve found that mocking Jawja is way, way more fun.
Luke: What was our best moment?
Nate: When I banned Subo?
Luke: That was a good one.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 29, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hold on
Does Anthony Pace= Robert Downey Sr?
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Nov 29, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
LOL yes
Since like… May. I noticed you haven’t been taking my elbowing of your Herschel disaffection very well and just assumed you were still thinking about The Trade.
Welcome back to posting frequently, though. Though I often disagree with you, at least you don’t sound like a fucktard when saying things that infuriate me.
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by Anthony Pace on Nov 29, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
It all makes sense now!
I don’t like you as much named “Anthony”. You should have just changed your name legally instead of having it changed on here. Seems easier anyway…
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Nov 29, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Samuel L. Jackson was on the sidelines decked out in UGA garb for the game Saturday
It makes no sense, but we’ll take it
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by Anthony Pace on Nov 29, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Fucking awesome
Unless for some reason you’re mad he isn’t fighting Roger as scheduled, this was a major upgrade to a card that lost a mediocre fight, then gained a really good one. Kyle doesn’t stand much of a chance, but he stands a far better one than Valentijn.
"I'm gonna go after number one, whoever it is. If it's Anderson, or I gotta go up after the guys at 205, or go on a diet and go after Jose Aldo-- it doesn't matter." -Chael Sonnen
by Charles Awad on Nov 29, 2010 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree
I’ve never heard of Mike Kyle. I’m a casual.
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by Urijah Bieber on Nov 29, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
This basically
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Mike Kyle vs Rocky Dennis
Mike Kyle is gonna get knocked out in the 2nd round and look like shit leading up to it.
Another awesome strikeforce card I just can’t wait to see all of the horrible match ups.
Putting Babalu up against Hendo is about the dumbest fuckin shit I heard in a minute
and I like both guys but c’mon there is no way babalu is going to do anything remotely
game changing offensively it’s like he’s just there to try and avoid the inevitable nap.
Bad fight for Kyle.
Silva is going to be much larger come fight time and he is much more well rounded. I see a first round sub for Silva.
looks like a much more relevant match-up, no matter Kyle is alternating HW and LHW bouts, he is looking solid and sharp in every of them. Favor Big Foot, because of the size and time to prepare, but their boxing skillws are similar and both have got power. Silva may be a little more difficult to knock out though, he is got a concrete head.
by Carlos Estrada-Ibars Martínez on Nov 29, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions
Probably signs in through Facebook so I doubt it.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ever see the blue connect button next to the login?
That’s how you do it. When you see guys whose usernames are proper names and they aren’t a member of the staff it usually means they’re logging in through Facebook.
When a ball goes into a net, it only means something because we decide it means something. When somebody punches somebody in the face it always means something.
by lowellthehammer on Nov 29, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand how people can bitch about this matchup
First, it’s a better fight. Second, would you rather Bigfoot not be on the card at all? Strikeforce already lost it’s mainstream attention for the card with Herschel’s injury, do you want them to lose the few hardcores that are still left for the sweet top half of the card?
"Tim Sylvia’s sphincter is demonstrably weaker than Andrei Arlovski’s chin." – hlebtasic
It has the word "Strikeforce" in the title
People are going to bitch regardless of the content of the post.
People don’t like Mike Kyle because he’s a horrible person and they don’t care for the fact that after hearing about how great Strikeforce’s heavyweights are over and over again it was a light heavyweight that stepped up to the plate.
It is a much better match up, of course that says a lot about the original match up too. I rather see Bigfoot fighting higher competition but all things being what they be this is a real improvement for the card and should be an interesting fight.
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