Roy Nelson Talks Lawyers and Contracts

Or they we’re trying to rebuild their public image as bumbling fools/bullies and felt that they could make money off of his shows. I work for a major entertainment company – thinking they do anything without regard to the bottom line is silly.

Jones isn’t ruining Nelson’s career – Nelson has a contract in place. If Nelson wants to buy out of his agreement with Jones he can fight again.

The UFC have filed claims for what I assume are reimbursements for legals fees as outlined in the standard Zuffa contract. (i.e. Ken Shamrock)

But that has no bearing on this conversation.

“IF he were 220” he would be a light heavyweight.

“I don’t think he could ever be as fast or as strong as Cain or Brock.” We agree.

When we are talking about athletes, we can assume that all training is geared toward performance.

Physical fitness and performance go hand in hand. Again, fitness is about muscular strength, flexibility, cardio-respiratory, muscular endurance and body composition. As you increase overall fitness, you increase performance.

You may be mistaking fitness for body-building.

The idea that 60 additional pounds of dead weight is ideal for any athlete is absurd. Most Sumo wrestlers look lean compared to Roy.

“Bottom line – without physical exams, measurement, testing and lab work, it is impossible to assess an overall level of "fitness" as you are using the term, and while Roy appears to meet any objective assessment of "performance fitness" it would certainly be to his benefit to lose excess body fat, just as it would to almost anyone else.”

I agree, I’m not trying to assess his fitness, so much as say he’s obese. As I explained earlier, people mistake fitness for body-building. We all know how hard it is even define ‘fitness’ but people are actually arguing that Roy doesn’t need to lose weight, or even that he shouldn’t lose weight. From strictly a medical POV he’s at risk for a whole plethora is shitty illnesses. When they do autopsies of obese people, they literally scoop buckets of fat away from the organs. That can’t be healthy.

“Actually, the human body was either designed or evolved (not getting into that debate) to look quite similar to his – to store excess body fat automatically, in proportions similar to his. This is basic physiology, and is not even open to debate among those knowledgeable in the field.”

This is where we diverge. Just because being a gelatinous blob can be done naturally by regular overeating doesn’t mean it should. We both know that for most of human history, a body like Roy’s wasn’t possible for almost anyone. In fact, the average weight of an American man has went up 25 pounds since 1960. From a Kinesthetic POV, the body does not function at its best with 80lbs of body fat. I’ve personally worked with people who had been obese basically their whole lives, after losing 30lbs+ they usually say how much better they feel. Most say they breathe easier and have less back, foot and knee problems.

Look at the studies done on old NFL lineman. These guys were relatively fit and obviously strong but started dying around 45 or 50. Heart attacks. Sleep apnea, was silently smothering them in their sleep. Along with crippling knee and back problems(worse than other players). These days, the same positions are being filled with bigger, faster, leaner athletes; because they perform better. As a SC coach, you know a lot more than me how much this part of football has changed in the last 20 years.

A lot of new research on the elderly shows that smaller is better in terms of longevity and health.

“Part of the reason there are so many connective tissue injuries among AAS users is that if they do not train very, very specifically to try to prevent them as much as possible, the connective tissues do not strengthen in proportion to the rapid gains made in the fast-twitch muscle fibers.”

This is what I always see. These guys don’t want to do isometrics(or anything else) to strengthen the joint stability. They just want to use all that new strength and power they feel. I try to show guys the importance of origin, insertion and working upper/lower muscle fibers. I saw a guy a few years ago doing really box jumps with weights, saying he felt strong enough. His Achilles rolled up his leg like a sheet music on an old piano. Or the pec fly guy, the guy who way too much weight and cheats to get more power behind him. Almost every week, someone tears or partially tears a pectoral.

After a lifetime of AAS use, I would assume chemical and hormonal levels in the body would be pretty fucked up. Probably worse than a type 2 diabetic. The only problem is, the older body builders are still alive. That’s why they keep making the argument of “Where’s the bodies?”

I’m not saying chronic AAS or chronic overeating is worse than the other. I think both are dangerous. I would advise anyone to stay away from both.