Shane Mosley Meets With Bob Arum, Says He's Fighting Manny Pacquiao Next
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 20, 2010 3:38 AM EST
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Still desperately hoping for the Pacquiao vs Mayweather mega-fight? Well it's really not going to happen anytime soon, cause it looks like they're already settling for Mosley instead. Shortly after Bernard Hopkins pulled out the race card by saying that Manny has never faced an African-American fighter, "Sugar" Shane Mosley tweeted that he has spoken with Bob Arum, and that he's 90% sure he's next in line for the pound-for-pound king:
alright tweet buddies, I am going to get me some rest. Talk with Ya'll later. But get ready for Sugar and Pac it's going down!!!!!!
I just left [Bob Arum's] office yesterday 90% sure Its going down trust
Negotiations look to be underway, and unless Floyd Mayweather suddenly has a change of heart and decides to come to the table, this will probably push through for the simple fact that Mosley has a bigger name than the other potential contenders.
Scott Christ over at BadLeftHook doesn't seem to be too excited about the potential match up:
As much as I like Shane Mosley, no, fighting the 39-year-old Mosley does not answer the question of when Pacquiao's going to fight a fast, in-prime black fighter. Berto's a better fight now. So is the Bradley-Alexander winner. Mosley is damaged goods and didn't just look bad against Mayweather, which just about everyone does, but looked really bad against Sergio Mora, too. Mora isn't easy to look good against, but it wasn't a case of looking bad against Mora, but just plain looking bad. Still Mosley, even exhausted, did keep trying to land big shots in that fight. Maybe the all-action style of Pacquiao would help him find his youth again. Probably not, but maybe. He's come back from being "washed up" before.
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King Mo tweets back:
@SugarShaneM 4real!!!! Do ur thang bro!!! Who gonna train u? Brother Naz?
@SugarShaneM if the fight go down….u should do strength and conditioning with @JonChaimberg. Check him out. He is 4real.
and more weird rants to fans:
people said the same thang before @SugarShaneM KO’d margarito… name one agile fighter Pac has fought…then holla at me. He beat plodders and guys that cover up… lol. Marquez ain’t agile. He technical and a good counter puncher. I mean a boxer with dynamic motion… nope. Barrera ain’t quick and agile.pretty sure the Barerra and Morales that Manny faced would be way more agile/quick/dynamic than Shane. haha.
I don't take Mo's opinion very seriously...
…when it comes to guys who he is a fan of. If Mo thinks Mosley has any shot after watching the Mora fight, he’s as delusional as Shane. Pac will rearrange his face.
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by Luke Thomas on Nov 20, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
To Mosely’s credit he’s been a largely inconsistent fighter.
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by VeeisAnimated on Nov 20, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
And it's Tweets like these
That make me glad Mo blocked me on Twitter.
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by Luke Thomas on Nov 20, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Shit
I’d wear that like a badge of honor.
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 20, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
This is the same guy who said
Toney would beat Randy……..and called Reem “Supa N***a Overeem”…………..he’s an idiot.
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 20, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Andre Berto, Tim Bradley, Paul Williams, Devon Alexander.
This fight is a business decision, a completely safe business decision. I like SSM a lot, but he’s shot. And it’s not like SSM is a great or even good PPV sell.
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Man, I’d love to see Pacquiao fight Paul Williams.
"Everytime I start talking about boxing, a white man gotta pull Rocky Marciano out of their ass!"
I heard that the weight cut would be too much for Paul Williams
Plus how does a guy THAT tall be 147?
I wanna see if Dana Says some slick shit about this
Then I can say “Lesnar/Mir 3 bruh”
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 20, 2010 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yea ok lets see Kid Kate tell us how much better boxing is now if this is the best they can come up with.
when did Nate say Boxing is better than MMA?
I remember him pointing out that MMA doesn’t have a mainstream star like Pacquiao yet… that’s the truth, and people got all defensive with their panties in a knot.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 20, 2010 5:42 AM EST up reply actions
Kid Nate did say Marvel is better than DC, but people are getting silly with this shit.
by John Nash on Nov 20, 2010 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know you're in love with Paq, but Hop wasn't really pulling a "race card"
It was a culture card. I know people dumb out when race is mentioned, but he wasd making a point about culture and boxing style. And he’s right. There have been fighters in the past Manny skipped over that had the style Bernard was talking about.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 20, 2010 6:10 AM EST reply actions
I am not going on a debate about race/culture,
but saying Mayweather will beat Manny cause he’s black, and Clottey wouldn’t, cause he wasn’t from America, is the kind of fight analysis which is you know, stupid… and saying that Manny is avoiding fighting African-American fighters is again……….
and I usually disagree with most of what Koncz says, but he’s right when he says this:
"The selection of opponents for Manny has nothing to do with race, creed or color. It’s all about business. And they can cry all that they want. It’s all about economics, now, with Manny’s career(but this is also the reason why I’m disappointed with the selection… sure it would make him the most money, but it’s a crappy fight)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 20, 2010 6:20 AM EST up reply actions
Clottey
haaaaaaaaaaaaaa doesn’t throw enough punches and not very accurate ones at that. that fight look so fixed he would crack manny then back up. after the fight stating he was to fast umm no fool you look like you just got paid off to me.
i also wanted to know off topic but still kinda about boxing. the women that got mike tyson locked up for rape then admitted she lied about it. did they ever send her lying ass to jail.
There have been fighters in the past Manny skipped over that had the style Bernard was talking about.’’
Who exactly has he been ducking?
All this “Manny ducks black fighters” shit will be even more hilarious when Mayweather finally fights him and gets KTFO.
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 20, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 20, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Zahir Raheem beat Morales and Manny fought Morales instead of Zahir Raheem
The winner of Guzman/Soto was supposed to fight Manny. Guzman won and Manny’s team said he was too “boring”.
Manny chose to move up and fight no defense Diaz rather than Campbell who had 3 belts.
57 fights and Manny hasn’t fought an African-American boxer? How do you do that in boxing? That’s damn near impossible. It’s not about race, no one is saying Black fighters are better. It’s about style. It’s that slick defensive boxing style found among primarily found in Black American boxers.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 20, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and this gets one rec? sigh..
Here are the facts.
Zahir Raheem was unranked and unknown and was supposed to be a “tune up”, until he upset Morales. and when he did beat Morales in 2005, that was at Lightweight, one weightclass higher on where Pacquiao was competing at the time. And just so you know, Pacquiao was competing against better competition, at FW until 2008, and Zahir never really became a top dog at LW.
Guzman, who by the way isn’t African-American, beat Soto to win the WBO title, shortly after Manny defeated Barrera. So I guess he “Ducked” the WBO champ cause Manny chose to face the WBC champ, and TOP ranked fighter at the weight, Juan Manuel Marquez for the LINEAL title.
Manny took only one fight at LW to add to his belt collection, then moved on to one of the biggest fights of the decade, against Oscar de La Hoya… and besides, Campbell was stuck in a lawsuit with Don King at the time.
Please know your facts before posting these absurd claims. You’re so focused on color/race/culture of boxers he didn’t face, that you’re forgetting that you would even have a hard time making a proper case to claim that these guys truly deserved to face Pacquiao over who he actually faced.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 20, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't say Money would beat Manny because of race
He’s talking about the style which is prevalent among Black American fighters.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 20, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
from a comment I made in BLH
If the idea is to dispel those rumors that Manny doesn’t fight slick black Americans, Mosley is not the answer.
Do they even have to try and answer these lame “rumors”? (I’m not directing this to you of course) but anyone who believes that Manny has been trying to avoid African-Americans, I feel, is kinda stupid…. they already got Brickhaus to bite , and didn’t he already disprove that months ago?
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 20, 2010 6:42 AM EST up reply actions
Not about skipping "Black fighters"
It’s about skipping a style that is primarily found among Black fighters. But he hasn’t fought an Af-Am in 57 fights, you don’t find that odd? In boxing? "
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 20, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not odd in the lower weight classes
There just aren’t a lot of black boxers below lightweight. The divisions Pac fought in until 2008 (130 and below) are dominated by Mexican, South American and Asian fighters.
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I never realized that
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by Derek Suboticki on Nov 20, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
you need to read this… the 57 fights argument is so misleading and absurd that it’s funny.
http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/2/26/1327640/has-manny-pacquiao-ducked-african
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 20, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Like who?
Honestly, i’m interseted, who did Pacquiao ‘’skip over’’ that boxed like Hopkins?
See my response to Lethal Haze
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by S.C. Michaelson on Nov 20, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Sniff
Yep. Essentialism by any other name smells just as sweet.
by dribblebib on Nov 20, 2010 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mosley is old he will get schooled
there is no other competitive chalenge right now for Pacquaio then Maywheater
Don't go the floyd route
Floyd made a career of fighting low risk big name fighters. Beat the young lions that are in their prime and you can continue building your case as 1 of the best of all time. Beating over the hill Big Names does nothing for your legacy.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH BOXING
like floyd said before the shane fight. he was trying o fight shane for the longest. he had to chase de la hoya for the longest to get a fight with him. in boxing floyd said people can pick who they want to fight once they hit a certain level. why take a chance on losing to a up and coming fighter. this is not rocky that shit is not happening. now what floyd said is true everyone in boxing is about numbers and padding records. no more unification bouts that was why boxing was so good before. undisputed champions taking on all comers that is why ali was the best. he only lost to basically top boxers and beat almost all of the top boxers. even with a handicap that is why that man is amazing and a legend.
floyd was never on my radar until he crushed gatti. i remember sitting with my friends going no way floyd can beat gatti. the hand speed the power gatti going smoke him. the only two people he beat after gatti that had me thinking why did he fight them. the guy he fought after gatti and Baldomir. i saw no reason to fight either of them the other people yes. zab for two belts at once and zab wasn’t over the hill. beat oscar for a belt and oscar could barely touch him. hatton was talking crap about floyd and hatton got taken out. he fought Márquez to see how he would match up with manny because manny had alot of problems with him. fought shane while waiting for the things with manny to get settled. shane is dum he wants to get punch drunk i guess he didn’t get enough of ass whooping floyd gave him. then a draw with mora the same i can never live up to my own potential mora. now he wants manny to knock him out tham i didn’t shane needed money that bad. he got the power but his speed is gone it’s a rap for him. i say they will stop the fight in the later rounds. shane “punching bag” mosley will retire after that
Yeah with BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes co headlining UFC 123, the problem with boxing is definitely the lack of legitimacy in matchmaking.
Oscar won that fight btw. Oscar had leather on him all night. Mayweather barely landed anything and was gifted the win. His own father said after the fight he thought May lost.
May vs Gatti was such a joke it wasn’t even funny. That you thought Gatti even had a chance… idk what to say about that. That was a much worse mismatch that Pac Mosely.
The only reason May Marquez and May Mosley happened is because May is afraid of Pacquiao and is ducking him, plain and simple.
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 20, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
HA
go back and watch that fight again your boy de la hoya was throwing was not landing much. thats why in the last two rounds he was throwing like crazy trying to steal the match away but he couldn’t do it. he would get flurry in and get wrapped up. it was a close fight but de la hoya lost that. why wouldn’t gatti have a chance the man was a beat of a fighter they didn’t call him thunder for nothing. i guess you think his fight against corrales was some crap to. last time i heard your boy pac passed on 30 mill because of a blood test. if you are on a mma site that means you know why pac doesn’t want to that test at certain times. no one gains that much weight and gets faster. especially with his already small body frame.
You are a fucking idiot. I won’t even comment on the stupidity of 99% of what you said. Just focusing on your lack of grammar and your syntax, makes my soul hurt.
by disinferno06 on Nov 20, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
God I hate Bob Arum
Pacqiuao: This isn’t a “job” anymore, this is about Pride. Stop saying yes to everything.
Actually it looks to be the exact opposite- Pac is trying to make the most money possible while Fedor appears to be trying to make the least possible.
Hey UFC4 go fuck yourself, how about that? Fucking punk, I was just asking for the source that says lesnar gets 5 mill a fight, it’s obvious one does not exist. Bunch of gabronis on a site pulling figures out of your ass.
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by ufc4 on Nov 20, 2010 9:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No comparison
Who is Manny ducking? He’s tried again and again to get the most competitive and appealing fight available to him and the fighter on the other end of that deal has repeatedly ducked him with a series of ever-more-ridiculous excuses.
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by Dave Strummer on Nov 20, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Realizing it's already secure and letting his management waste the final years of his career?
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by Anthony Pace on Nov 20, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Guys Pac has a better chance of fighting than FMJ
Cassius Clay
Chuck Norris
The Karate Kid (original version)
The Brooklyn Brawler
Goro
Hey UFC4 go fuck yourself, how about that? Fucking punk, I was just asking for the source that says lesnar gets 5 mill a fight, it’s obvious one does not exist. Bunch of gabronis on a site pulling figures out of your ass.
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by ufc4 on Nov 20, 2010 9:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Anybody want to note that Floyd might not be availabe to fight for awhile because he’s got some serious f-ing legal issues?
by John Nash on Nov 20, 2010 11:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He was just trying to strong arm a woman and child
no big deal
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Nov 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions
Pac via rape
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Didn’t see the Mora fight, but Mosley looked alright for the first couple rounds against PBF. Mayweather just has to high of a fight IQ, and adjusts really well (ironic, given that he’s a complete and utter imbecile outside of the ring). Honestly, I’d rather see this than the winner of Bradley/Alexander. Both of those guys are too small, no power. They’re quick, but not quick enough to make up for the complete lack of power they have against Pac. Berto is the fight that would be the most relevant and probably the most entertaining, but he just doesn’t have a big enough name to make financial sense right now..
Didn’t see the Mora fight, but Mosley looked alright for the first couple rounds against PBF.
He looked absolutely terrible in the Mora fight.
I’d rather see this than the winner of Bradley/Alexander.
That’s the real fight for Pac. If Pac wants to secure his legacy as a GOAT, fight a young, fast and hungry Tim Bradley – a kid who Pac will have to KO to beat. There will be no cruising through the last two rounds like he did with Margo; Bradley’s a tough SOB.
Berto bores the shit out of me. He’s a wannabe Floyd, and Luis Collazo almost beat him.
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