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Dana Has To Stop Saying The Best Fighters In The World Fight Each Other Three Times A Year In The UFC (because they fight more than that!)

-Updated

GeeDub points out since looking at average days between fights is probably a better way to look at this and I have to agree.  See his comments below for details, but a fairer look does seem to point more to about 2.2 fights per year. 

 

This post earlier today complained, that Danna shouldn't say his standard "You have to realize that here in the UFC the best fighters in the world fight each other three times a year" because it isn't true.  The statement was never really supported besides pointing to a couple fighters may taken a bit over three years to fight three times.  I was curious what a real look at the data would show, so check out my analysis below and if Dana is really liar as lots of comments in the fanpost contend.

First we need to agree on what "You have to realize that here in the UFC the best fighters in the world fight each other three times a year" actually means.  I'd always read that simply as on average, he believes the UFC has the worlds best fighters and most UFC fighters fight around 3 times per year.  

We also, need to define a reasonable dataset to use to analyze the claim.  The dataset I will use was generated via Sherdog fight finder.  I looked up every event that occurred during 2010 thus far.   For each event I looked at every fighter on that card.  If the fighter's previous 2 fights before the one I looked up were in the UFC (meaning his last three fights were in the UFC), that fighter was included in my dataset even if the fighter is no longer in the UFC.  I then collected the dates of those fighters latest three UFC fights.  I ignore any injuries, movies, TUF, or any other reason for extended layoffs.  I simply look at the dates.  This gives the most conservative view with no excuses.

I look at the data in three ways.  First I look at all UFC fighters (assuming this is what Dana means when talking about the best).  Then I filter that data down to just look at the fighters currently ranked in the top 25 and in the top 10 using the BE rankings in case people argue Dana had some more restrictive meaning of  best fighters.  For each of those sets, I'll present the average, median, max, and min number of days it took to get three fights in the UFC.  I'll also give the % of fighters in that set who had three fights in a year or less.

 

For all UFC fighters

Avg

331.5411765

Median

294

Min

150

Max

882

% under year

75.29%

 

For UFC fighters currently in the top 25

Avg

329.972973

Median

297.5

Min

173

Max

728

% under year

75.68%

 

For UFC fighters currently in the top 10

Avg

349

Median

336

Min

203

Max

700

% under year

65.63%

 

So just looking at the data, seems Dana is actually correct.  UFC fighters really do fight even more than three times a year normally.  These numbers include some major outliers like Tito Ortiz taking 882 days for three fights, Patrick Cote  taking 728 day, James Irvin taking 743 days, etc.  Remove those and the numbers are even MUCH better, but I left them in to avoid any question. 

-update

In the comments below it was said

As you broke it down to the top 10 the number dropped down to 65%. Now that top 10 is taking out fighters from other organizations. So, for example, when you do that at heavyweight your 7, 8, 9 and 10 fighters are Schaub, Kongo, Nelson, and Gonzaga.

Just want to be clear that is NOT what the top 10 above represents.  If say the #3 HW wasn't under the UFC banner, then there was simply no #3 HW in my rankings.  So there we actually less than 10 fighters in each class in my "top 10" sample.  But the method of using the top 10 simply in the UFC in each class is interesting so I've included that below as well:

For top 10 UFC fighters in each class

Avg

325.88

Median

304.5

Min

173

Max

700

% under year

76.00%

 

At the bottom of this post is the full dataset I collected for your own review.  Let me know any thoughts.

 

Fighter

Rank

Latest Fight

2nd Fight

3rd Fight

Days for 3 Fights

Aaron Riley

5/29/2010

11/14/2009

8/8/2009

294

Aaron Simpson

6/19/2010

1/11/2010

8/29/2009

294

Alan Belcher

13

5/8/2010

12/12/2009

7/11/2009

301

Alessio Sakara

19

3/21/2010

8/8/2009

9/17/2008

550

Alexander Gustafsson

22

10/16/2010

4/10/2010

11/14/2009

336

Amir Sadollah

11/13/2010

5/29/2010

1/11/2010

306

Anderson Silva

1

8/7/2010

4/10/2010

8/8/2009

364

Andre Winner

11/13/2010

8/28/2010

3/31/2010

227

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

9

2/20/2010

8/29/2009

12/27/2008

420

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira

8

9/25/2010

5/29/2010

11/21/2009

308

B.J. Penn

2

8/28/2010

4/10/2010

12/12/2009

259

Ben Saunders

8/7/2010

3/27/2010

11/21/2009

259

Brad Blackburn

4/10/2010

1/11/20010

6/20/2009

294

Brandon Vera

19

3/21/2010

11/14/2009

8/29/2009

204

Brendan Schaub

13

10/23/2010

7/3/2010

3/21/2010

216

Brian Foster

9/15/2010

2/20/2010

11/21/2009

298

Brian Stann

8/1/2010

2/6/2010

12/5/2009

239

Brock Lesnar

2

10/23/2010

7/3/2010

7/11/2009

469

C.B. Dollaway

9/25/2010

2/20/2010

9/16/2009

374

Cain Velasquez

1

10/23/2010

2/20/2010

10/24/2009

364

Caol Uno

3/31/2010

11/21/2009

6/13/2009

291

Carlos Condit

8

10/16/2010

6/12/2010

9/16/2009

395

Chael Sonnen

2

8/7/2010

2/6/2010

10/24/2009

287

Cheick Kongo

14

10/16/2010

3/21/2010

12/12/2009

308

Chris Leben

14

7/3/2010

6/19/2010

1/11/2010

173

Chris Lytle

14

9/25/2010

7/3/2010

2/20/2010

217

Chris Tuchscherer

7/3/2010

2/6/2010

8/29/2009

308

Chuck Liddell

24

6/12/2010

4/18/2009

9/6/2008

644

Clay Guida

22

8/7/2010

3/21/2010

12/12/2009

238

Cole Miller

9/15/2010

1/2/2010

9/19/2009

361

DaMarques Johnson

8/1/2010

4/10/2010

12/12/2009

232

Dan Hardy

10

10/16/2010

3/27/2010

11/14/2009

336

Dan Miller

8/28/2010

5/29/2010

2/6/2010

203

Daniel Roberts

10/23/2010

7/3/2010

3/21/2010

216

Demian Maia

5

8/28/2010

4/10/2010

2/6/2010

203

Dennis Siver

11/13/2010

6/19/2010

3/31/2010

227

Diego Sanchez

13

10/23/2010

5/29/2010

12/12/2009

315

Dong Hyun Kim

5/29/2010

7/11/2009

1/31/2009

483

Duane Ludwig

11/13/2010

3/21/2010

1/2/2010

315

Dustin Hazelett

8/7/2010

1/2/2010

11/15/2008

630

Efrain Escudero

9/15/2010

5/29/2010

1/11/2010

247

Eliot Marshall

3/21/2010

9/19/2009

4/18/2009

337

Eric Schafer

3/21/2010

10/24/2009

1/17/2009

428

Evan Dunham

11

9/25/2010

6/12/2010

1/11/2010

257

Frank Mir

7

9/25/2010

3/27/2010

12/12/2009

287

Frankie Edgar

1

8/28/2010

4/10/2010

12/5/2009

266

Gabriel Gonzaga

10/23/2010

3/21/2010

8/29/2009

420

George Sotiropoulos

10

7/3/2010

2/20/2010

11/21/2009

224

Georges St. Pierre

1

3/27/2010

7/11/2009

1/31/2009

420

Gerald Harris

7/3/2010

3/21/2010

1/11/2010

173

Gilbert Yvel

10/23/2010

6/12/2010

1/2/2010

294

Gleison Tibau

9/15/2010

3/31/2010

10/24/2009

326

Goran Reljic

11/13/2010

7/3/2010

2/20/2010

266

Gray Maynard

4

8/28/2010

1/11/2010

9/16/2009

346

Igor Pokrajac

8/1/2010

2/20/2010

9/19/2009

316

Jacob Volkmann

8/1/2010

3/31/2010

1/2/2010

211

Jake Ellenberger

22

8/1/2010

1/2/2010

9/16/2009

319

James Irvin

8/1/2010

3/21/2010

7/19/2008

743

James McSweeney

10/16/2010

6/19/2010

12/5/2009

315

James Wilks

10/16/2010

6/12/2010

11/14/2009

336

Jared Hamman

9/15/2010

3/27/2010

11/14/2009

305

Jason Brilz

23

5/29/2010

3/21/2010

9/19/2009

252

Jeremy Stephens

9/25/2010

5/8/2010

9/16/2009

374

Jesse Lennox

6/12/2010

1/11/2010

8/8/2009

308

Jim Miller

12

9/15/2010

3/27/2010

1/2/2010

256

Joe Lauzon

8/28/2010

1/2/2010

2/7/2009

567

Joe Stevenson

17

2/20/2010

10/24/2009

6/20/2009

245

Joey Beltran

9/25/2010

5/8/2010

2/6/2010

231

John Gunderson

9/15/2010

6/19/2010

1/2/2010

256

John Hathaway

20

10/16/2010

5/29/2010

11/14/2009

336

John Howard

8/1/2010

3/21/2010

12/5/2009

239

John Salter

8/28/2010

5/8/2010

1/11/2010

229

Johny Hendricks

8/7/2010

5/8/2010

12/12/2009

238

Jon Fitch

2

8/7/2010

3/27/2010

12/12/2009

238

Jon Jones

7

8/1/2010

3/21/2010

12/5/2009

239

Jon Madsen

10/23/2010

7/3/2010

4/10/2010

196

Jonathan Goulet

5/8/2010

12/10/2008

4/19/2008

749

Jorge Rivera

3/31/2010

10/24/2009

4/1/2009

364

Josh Koscheck

3

5/8/2010

11/21/2009

9/19/2009

231

Junior dos Santos

5

8/7/2010

3/21/2010

1/2/2010

217

Justin Buchholz

2/6/2010

9/16/2009

6/13/2009

238

Keith Jardine

6/19/2010

2/20/2010

8/29/2009

294

Kendall Grove

7/3/2010

4/10/2010

11/21/2009

224

Kenny Florian

7

8/28/2010

3/31/2010

12/12/2009

259

Krzysztof Soszynski

11/13/2010

7/3/2010

2/20/2010

266

Kurt Pellegrino

20

7/3/2010

3/27/2010

8/8/2009

329

Kyle Bradley

1/11/2010

5/23/2009

9/17/2008

481

Kyle Kingsbury

9/15/2010

10/24/2009

12/13/2008

641

Luis Arthur Cane

25

5/29/2010

11/21/2009

4/18/2009

406

Lyoto Machida

2

5/8/2010

10/24/2009

5/23/2009

350

Mac Danzig

6/12/2010

2/6/2010

7/11/2009

336

Marcus Davis

8/28/2010

5/8/2010

11/21/2009

280

Mario Miranda

8/28/2010

6/12/2010

3/31/2010

150

Mark Bocek

3/27/2010

12/5/2009

4/18/2009

343

Mark Coleman

2/6/2010

7/11/2009

1/17/2009

385

Mark Munoz

8/1/2010

4/10/2010

1/2/2010

211

Martin Kampmann

6

10/23/2010

6/12/2010

1/2/2010

294

Matt Brown

7/3/2010

3/27/2010

11/14/2009

231

Matt Hamill

17

10/23/2010

6/19/2010

12/5/2009

322

Matt Hughes

9

8/7/2010

4/10/2010

5/23/2009

441

Matt Mitrione

9/25/2010

5/8/2010

12/5/2009

294

Matt Riddle

8/1/2010

3/27/2010

11/14/2009

260

Matt Serra

19

9/25/2010

2/6/2010

5/23/2009

490

Matt Veach

4/10/2010

12/5/2009

2/7/2009

427

Matt Wiman

6/12/2010

12/12/2009

4/18/2009

420

Mauricio Rua

1

5/8/2010

10/24/2009

4/18/2009

385

Melvin Guillard

23

9/25/2010

5/29/2010

2/6/2010

231

Michael Bisping

11

10/16/2010

5/29/2010

2/20/2010

238

Michael Guymon

10/23/2010

5/8/2010

1/11/2010

285

Mike Massenzio

8/1/2010

12/27/2008

9/17/2008

683

Mike Pierce

24

8/28/2010

3/31/2010

12/12/2009

259

Mike Pyle

18

10/16/2010

6/12/2010

1/2/2010

287

Mike Swick

16

2/6/2010

11/14/2009

6/13/2009

238

Mirko Filipovic

18

9/25/2010

6/12/2010

2/20/2010

217

Mostapha Al-Turk

4/10/2010

6/13/2009

12/27/2008

469

Nate Diaz

8/28/2010

3/27/2010

1/11/2010

229

Nate Marquardt

3

11/13/2010

9/15/2010

2/6/2010

280

Nate Quarry

3/31/2010

9/16/2009

4/18/2009

347

Nick Catone

1/11/2010

8/29/2009

4/1/2009

285

Nick Osipczak

11/13/2010

8/28/2010

4/10/2010

217

Nik Lentz

8/28/2010

3/31/2010

1/11/2010

229

Patrick Barry

6/12/2010

10/24/2009

5/23/2009

385

Patrick Cote

25

10/23/2010

5/8/2010

10/25/2008

728

Paul Daley

5/8/2010

1/2/2010

9/19/2009

231

Paul Kelly

8/1/2010

4/10/2010

11/14/2009

260

Paul Taylor

10/23/2010

11/14/2009

6/13/2009

497

Paulo Thiago

12

10/23/2010

6/12/2010

2/6/2010

259

Peter Sobotta

11/13/2010

6/12/2010

6/13/2009

518

Phil Davis

21

8/7/2010

4/10/2010

2/6/2010

182

Phillipe Nover

2/6/2010

5/23/2009

12/13/2008

420

Quinton Jackson

4

5/29/2010

3/7/2009

12/27/2008

518

Rafael dos Anjos

8/7/2010

4/10/2010

1/11/2010

208

Rafaello Oliveira

3/31/2010

1/2/2010

9/19/2009

193

Randy Couture

13

8/28/2010

2/6/2010

11/14/2009

287

Rashad Evans

3

5/29/2010

1/2/2010

5/23/2009

371

Ricardo Almeida

25

8/7/2010

3/27/2010

8/8/2009

364

Rich Franklin

12

6/12/2010

9/19/2009

6/13/2009

364

Rick Story

8/7/2010

4/10/2010

1/11/2010

208

Rob Kimmons

11/13/2010

8/1/2010

10/24/2009

385

Robert Emerson

3/31/2010

2/6/2010

9/19/2009

193

Rodney Wallace

8/7/2010

3/27/2010

12/5/2009

245

Rory Markham

3/27/2010

2/21/2009

7/19/2008

616

Ross Pearson

9/15/2010

3/31/2010

11/14/2009

305

Rousimar Palhares

24

9/15/2010

3/27/2010

12/12/2009

277

Roy Nelson

16

8/7/2010

3/31/2010

12/5/2009

245

Ryan Bader

6

9/25/2010

2/20/2010

10/24/2009

336

Ryan Jensen

10/23/2010

5/29/2010

1/2/2010

294

Sam Stout

24

10/23/2010

5/8/2010

1/2/2010

294

Sean Sherk

9

9/25/2010

5/23/2009

10/25/2008

700

Shane Carwin

5

7/3/2010

3/27/2010

3/7/2009

483

Shannon Gugerty

3/21/2010

11/14/2009

7/11/2009

253

Spencer Fisher

10/16/2010

6/19/2010

10/24/2009

357

Stefan Struve

23

8/7/2010

3/31/2010

12/12/2009

238

Stephan Bonnar

7/3/2010

2/20/2010

7/11/2009

357

T.J. Grant

9/25/2010

5/8/2010

12/12/2009

287

Terry Etim

4/10/2010

11/14/2009

6/13/2009

301

Thiago Alves

4

8/7/2010

7/11/2009

10/25/2008

651

Thiago Silva

11

1/11/2010

8/29/2009

1/31/2009

345

Thiago Tavares

9/25/2010

1/11/2010

1/31/2009

602

Tim Boetsch

8/7/2010

4/3/2010

1/16/2010

203

Tim Hague

5/8/2010

2/6/2010

8/29/2009

252

Tito Ortiz

10/23/2010

11/21/2009

5/24/2008

882

Tom Lawlor

25

10/23/2010

5/8/2010

1/11/2010

285

Tomasz Drwal

9/15/2010

3/27/2010

9/19/2009

361

Tyson Griffin

18

8/1/2010

6/12/2010

9/19/2009

316

Vladimir Matyushenko

11/13/2010

8/1/2010

3/21/2010

237

Wanderlei Silva

15

2/20/2010

6/13/2009

12/27/2008

420

Yoshihiro Akiyama

18

10/16/2010

7/3/2010

7/11/2009

462

Yoshiyuki Yoshida

5/8/2010

10/24/2009

5/23/2009

350

Yushin Okami

8

11/13/2010

8/1/2010

3/31/2010

227

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