Manny Pacquiao Broke Antonio Margarito's Orbital Bone
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 14, 2010 11:00 PM EST
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Our friends at BadLeftHook brought to attention a report from ESPN, saying that Antonio Margarito had a fractured orbital bone and will be having surgery on Tuesday. The Mexican lost a lopsided 12-round decision to Manny Pacquiao and was brought to the hospital following the bout. Pacquiao, who noticeably slowed his pace and let go of the gas pedal during the last round of their bout, said that the fight should have been stopped a few rounds earlier for fear that he might permanently injure his opponent:
The beating was so thorough that the congressman from the Philippines turned to referee Laurence Cole several times in the 11th round, imploring him to stop the fight.
"I told the referee, 'Look at his eyes, look at his cuts,'" Pacquiao said. "I did not want to damage him permanently. That's not what boxing is about."
His trainer Freddie Roach echoed the same sentiments:
"He's a very tough guy," Roach said of Margarito (38-7, 27 KOs). "I was surprised how tough he was. He has the worst corner. They probably ruined his career by not stopping the fight."
Majority of the people thought that the bout should have been waved off by the referee or his corner, but they left it for Margarito to decide, and the boxer would have nothing of it:
"There was no way I was going to quit. I'm a Mexican, we fight until the end"
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"There was no way I was going to quit. I'm a Mexican, we fight until the end"
Too bad this fight could be the end of his career.
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 11:04 PM EST reply actions
your either a mexican, or a mexican’t…
by Danthemmaman on Nov 15, 2010 4:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was so hoping Brock would use that one if he beat Cain.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Is KJ Noons Still calling these guys out?!?!
I would love to see KJ Noons get obliterated by Manny P.
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Damn...
what a brutal sport. Fucking human cockfighting at it’s finest.
by Crazynutts on Nov 14, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
sadly
I can only rec this once, oh, btw, can we get this pick into Rielly’s hands during a press conference, and then get him to explain why this is okay but MMA isn’t?
He doesn’t like boxing either, if he could get rid of it, he would. however, boxing has been sanctioned in New York for over 100 years, and it’s much harder to change a longstanding law than it is to prevent a new one from being enacted.
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by eastcoastatlas on Nov 15, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
its the trainers job to do whats best for the fighter…Garcia didn’t do that…so Margarito will pay the price for it.
The Trainer is supposed to do whats best for the fighter, not what the fighter wants best.
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 11:07 PM EST reply actions
I repeated myself…my bad.
But the point still stands.
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. If/when Margarito boxes again, it will take a while now because of surgery, rehab and whatnot. Who knows which round that the injury started, but it was only worsened as the fight goes on. In this day and age, I don’t know boxing well, but is there any shame in throwing in the towel?
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by chrisbboy82 on Nov 14, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
There’s no shame, not in a situation like that. But dudes like Margo, though a cheater he may be, do have a ton of pride and heart, and don’t want to quit. That’s why its the corner’s responsibility to throw in the towel, to make the tough decision and take the burden off their fighter. Garcia fucked up big time.
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Manny has got one of the best chins i have ever seen he willingly sat in the corner and took punches to the face
at one point he took a full on uppercut from margarito
just because its a stereotype
Does not make it inaccurate.
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by the-gentle-way on Nov 15, 2010 12:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Mexican isnt a race you retard. Its a nationality. Know wtf you're talking about first before posting dumbass.
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by Ronin Noremlas on Nov 15, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
...pretty sure the guy with the username "Farthammer" was joking.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 15, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
One thing Manny does that Mayweather wouldn't do
is trade punches with a bigger guy on the ropes just to prove a point. You need big balls to do that.
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by Rod Mapada on Nov 14, 2010 11:29 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
...and a big chin
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by RolloTomasi on Nov 14, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
mayweather
did trade with bigger guy his last fight and he did the stanky leg for a moment lol
Mayweather fought Marquez who is small in height and weight class. Floyd still came in over the stipulated weight limit.
by intro820 on Nov 15, 2010 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His last fight was against Mosley.
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by Tokyo Sandblaster on Nov 15, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Mosley who passed his prime years ago.
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 15, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
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by menckenstein on Nov 15, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Im not a follower of boxing, but in MMA the answer is " then knock him out".
if this happened in MMa we’d be saying Paq should have knocked him out.
Margarito is known for his toughness and his chin...
and if it was MMA, well I can’t imagine anyone taking a left hook from a Pacquiao wearing MMA gloves.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 15, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Scientifically
There isn’t THAT much difference in boxing and MMA gloves in regard to dmg being dealt.
"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."
cause of the stance, posture, and weight distribution a mixed martial artist has to alter to factor in kicks, and takedowns.
but ask Manny to wear the small gloves, and make him punch the same, I can guarantee it would hurt a lot more than wearing huge gloves.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 15, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Plus if you don't have the big gloves ...
… to shield, you know Manny’s 4 punch combos are going to hurt.
Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.
true in essence. its actually a weird calculus. due to momentum, a blow from a boxing glove actually delivers more overall force, but it is spread out, so an MMA glove delivers greater PSI, and is actually more likely than a boxing glove to break facial bones before causing a KO.
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by eastcoastatlas on Nov 15, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Wrong
there is no significant change in force, but look at the surface area. The distribution of force changes from a larger to a smaller one meaning the damage is done in one concentrated area resulting in greater damage in that area and much more likelihood of a knockout. Add in the fact it’s easier to target the chin accurately since you are throwing in much smaller gloves.
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by JaeeJaee on Nov 15, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This was essentially
GSP-Fitch x3. No one was complaining about GSP not being able to finish Jon Fitch after that fight.
well no
Remember, Bones Jones also broke Vera orbital bone with an elbow and he wasn’t KO’d. The ref had to step in and stop the fight.
Many have said the ref should have stepped in to stop this fight, which setup up the stage for who has better/worse reffs :p
by squaresphere on Nov 15, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
You lose till the end.
Manny is all class.
"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."
I’m a Mexican, we fight until the end
that’s a good place to stop.
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by Johnathan Willis on Nov 15, 2010 2:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pacman took some good shots and punishment to the body
Just amazing what he has accomplished and keeps moving up weights. sad to say, this fight was more exciting than any matchup in ufc 122…
Nothing sad about it.
You have arguably one of the greatest boxers of this generation beating up a much larger opponent and making it look easy compared to an event main evented by two guys not really considered the top 2-4 of their weight class in a less than thrilling outing. If I had hair, I would have pulled some of it out at how blatantly Nate refused to use his kicks despite the entire arena hearing his corner yell for him to do so.
by black dragon on Nov 15, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
If you start feeling sorry for him for a second.
Just go to youtube and watch rounds 10-11 of Margarito vs. Cotto and try to tell yourself that its not a club that Margarito is hitting Cotto with, but a fist.
I couldn’t do it.
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by WarToney on Nov 15, 2010 11:41 AM EST reply actions
ugh another pic that will make Mayweather duck Pacquiao
Pansy Boy Floyd — why you scared homie?
maybe pacquiao should quit ducking marquez
why’s he scared, homie? maybe because their first fight was a draw and the second a controversial sd. marquez was a more deserving (in ever sense of the word) opponent than margarito.
anyway, mayweather beat mosley who beat this douche even worse than pacman. so i guess mayweather has nothing to fear. there’s some “boxing math” for you right there.
the last fight fell apart because pacman rejected floyd’s drug testing requests, which mosley agreed to. was mayweather doing that to dick with pacman? sure. but pacman could have stepped up and did not.
and i want this fight to happen as much as anyone. the point is not that mayweather is not a dick. the point is that:
a) beating up margario hardly makes you the greatest boxer of all time;
b) if pacman wanted to fight the best in the world, he would not have fought margarito; and
c) all boxers are super tactical in what they do – not just mayweather. blaming mayweather is fine, he’s a dick, but don’t do it to the extent you misdiagnose the real problem. don’t hate the players, hate the game.
Marquez would get killed
Stop spouting nonsense.
Marquez would get killed
based on the two super close fights he already had with Manny in the past?
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Manny is completely different than he was in those fights.
He is also fighting at a higher weight class that Marquez looked terrible at. It would be a one-sided beating from the get go.
pacman finally agreed to do the blood test, but Mayfeather found yet another reason to not fight
didn’t he duck Cotto too? seriously, Mayweather really hasn’t faced any strong opponents. Sure he beat Mosley but he’s washed up.
a) not only did Pac beat Margarito, he beat a guy who has 17 pounds on him and 5-6 inches taller. He made Marg look like an amateur.
b) pac finally agreed to fight Mayweather, but he wanted to go on vacation and beat his ex instead
c) I ain’t hatin’, i’m just stayin’ facts that Mayweather is afraid of losing his unbeaten streak. now you can get off his nuts.
okay, that's your opinion
my opinion is that if you think mayweather is fighting worse competition than pacman when:
a) mayweather fought mosley;
b) pacman fought margarito (a man who never deserved to fight anyone ever again, esp. not a payday like pacman); and
c) mosley not only beat, but destroyed margarito,
then you are not facing reality. and maybe it’s you that needs to get off pacman’s nuts.
anyway, I think we can both agree that this is the fight we want to see and that mayweather is a big reason why it’s not happening, if not the only one.
at this point, Mayweather's not worth it. he's only tarnishing his self proclaimed legacy
people will remember him for padding his record and afraid of fighting beasts. isn’t that what being a warrior is all about? to destroy anything that’s put in front of you. You can do all the boxing math that you want but the ‘reality’ is Pac is bigger and more respected than PBF, and his career will always be surrounded by questions. A manufactured champion who don’t care about boxing fans. Even Justin Bieber is calling him out LOL
Mosley was ranked #3 p4p by many reputable boxing outlets.
and top 5 everywhere else before the Mayweather fight. Now, he’s washed up because he lost to #1 or #1A p4p, and had a lackluster draw against a lackluster fight-producing-machine in Mora?
Margarito attempted to murder Miguel Cotto in the ring, tried to do the same against Mosley, got caught and crushed. Then gets over a year vacation, comes back and crushes a can, and suddenly he’s a world beater because he doesn’t get KO’d against Pacquiao?
I don’t know where you do your boxing math, but something tells me you drink some of Manny’s kool-aid before you do it.
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2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
by WarToney on Nov 16, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
you can wiki all you want
but it’s not about Mosley or Margarito it’s about Fayweather running from Pacquiao and every threat to his legacy. It’s about giving boxing fans what they want and challenging yourself. That’s where you get respect in the end. And with a nickname like WarToney, I have to admit I care nothing about what you say.
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