Today on MMA Nation on 106.7 The Fan: Pacquiao vs. Margarito Wrap-Up With Kevin Iole, UFC 122 Results and UFC 123 Preview
by Luke Thomas on Nov 14, 2010 9:02 PM EST
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Today on "MMA Nation" we've recap and discuss the results of last night's UFC 122: Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami event from Germany. We'll talk about what the results mean, whether or not Marquardt is a choker, if the UFC can reasonably sell Okami vs. Anderson Silva (or Vitor Belfort) and more.
We'll also hear directly from Yahoo!'s MMA/boxing writer Kevin Iole. Iole was live at Dallas Cowboys Stadium last night for the historic Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito fight. We'll talk to him about where Pacquiao stands as an all-time great, the health of Antonio Margarito and more.
We'll also preview UFC 123, which is less than a week away. We'll look at the two major fights, Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida and BJ Penn vs. Matt Hughes, what they mean for each fighter and how many buys the event will sell.
Lastly, we'll also give a recap of the other events in MMA this past week including WEC 52, the future of Urijah Faber and much more.
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Pacquaio vs Margarito "WRAP Up"
good pun or best pun?
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by B-A-N-A-N-A-S on Nov 14, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Looking forward to the show Luke. Interesting event we had. Do you get upset about people dissing cards before they even air? I find it crazy people mock them before even seeing the fights. I agree it’s the UFC’s job to put on exciting matches, but doesn’t it all come down to the fighters putting on good fights.
BIg Siver fan here. What are some good potential matchups you see in the LW division for him? Do you think he’ll have a problem with much taller fighters with a significant reach advantage? He seemed to be doing ok with the short time he exchanged with Winner, but he is a very short and stocky LW. Could he make 145?
Thoughts on Saki making MMA Debut in 2011? Is Schilt/Overeem a lock for the K-1 Finals?
I don’t watch boxing, but caught a little of the beginning of Pac/Marg. last night and I got to say it looked very extravagant. Are they in bad of a shape with MMA on the rise as everyone thinks? And also, pre-fight concerts? Really?
And you need Rogan on the show!
Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. - Bruce Lee
And you need Rogan on the show!
+1
Care to comment on Dana’s words about the Jackson camp and Marquardt ‘choking’?
I've tried to get Rogan a billion times
Sent emails, Tweeted him and even tried to go through his talent agency. Never could get anything going. He must not be interested.
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But seriously
Without getting into the deep politics about boxing on MMA, is Bob Arum and Top Rank hurting boxing and Pacqiuao by keeping all his fights and Top Rank fighters within the promotion? Top Rank, Gary Shaw, Golden Boy etc are NOT StrikeForce and UFC.
1) With Manny/Margarito apparently not doing well as expected with live attendance, do you think that says anything about the “boxing is dying” narrative, or was it just an unfavorable and unpopular match-up? Will anything other than Manny/Money satisfy boxing fans now?
2) Is there anything to take away from 122 or was it an overall mediocre event? Was anything learned about any fighter?
3) Will Okami finally get his title shot, or will he have it revoked for a boring fight (like Gray Maynard after the Diaz fight)?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 14, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions
I’m curious about the different tenor between Kevin’s coverage of boxing, which is very opinionated, and his extremely positive coverage of the UFC. Does the sport of boxing deserve the stick more? Or is it harder to write critically about the UFC?
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 14, 2010 6:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Kevin wants to be a UFC insider. If he says anything bad about them, he’s afraid to get the boot. UFC provides him with reams of content by letting him break various stories.
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NUH UH! GET OUT OF HERE!
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin Iole isn’t a boxing insider?
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 14, 2010 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Of course he is. Just not like he is with the UFC. Kevin is practically on Zuffa’s PR team.
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Remember when you tried to answer the question for Javy?
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 14, 2010 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The fact that you remember a comment I made a week ago amuses me to no end.
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The fact you follow Snowden around makes me giggle to no end.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
I follow Snowden around? Are you drunk this early in the evening?
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Sometimes these things happen in MMA
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The one guy insisting on answering the questions Luke solicits for the guests? That stands out.
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 14, 2010 9:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Found this on Google, thought it was appropriate for the show today.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
Maybe ask lole his thoughts on Williams vs Martinez 2, who wins that and who next for the winner?
Thoughts on the trainwreck thats become the Super Six Tournament? (maybe trainwreck is too strong, I suppose car wreck is better)
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions
also ask who he think wins that Tournament?
I pick Ward.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Questions, ladies and gents
Where are they? Let’s hear it.
Also, why is Jose Gonzalez such a monster beast? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZsIGQaLKI&feature=related
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Ask Kevin what he thought of the Mike Jones vs. Jesus Soto-Karras decision on the undercard of Margarito vs. Pacquiao. I had it scored 6-4 for Soto-Karras in what I felt was a pretty clear cut decision, yet they gave it to Mike Jones by majority decision.
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Don’t waste precious time with iole asking about undercard boxing. No one cares.
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 14, 2010 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, it was technically the co-main event, and it was a controversial decision featuring a big prospect in Mike Jones, who should have lost the fight.
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I’d give Luke $10 if 2 of 5 randomly selected listeners have any idea who either boxer is. That was a one fight show.
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 14, 2010 9:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not feelin it. You gotta bump that new Gangrene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V-nb74NGXo
Lotta boxing questions. Think this will switch to Combat Sports Radio? WKPunchInTheFace?
Seeing that this card was lackluster, you think Dana White knew from the start that he wasn’t going to get many buys for 122 and threw in some mid tiers to see where they’ll go in the UFC? Kinda like a throw away card? I’m sure Siver gained a lotta attention especialy being the ONLY finish that night
Rec this comment if you were utterly inspired by what Manny Pacquiao did last night.
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by Luke Thomas on Nov 14, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
I haven't watched boxing since...
I was a kid when Tyson was knocking fools out. Is it really that impressive? 12 rounds seems like an eternity.
by Crazynutts on Nov 14, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But 12 rounds of pinpoint face punching in the face is not enough
Although they should’ve stopped that fight around the 8th or 9th. Whenever the ref checked his vision.
Regarding Manny
Is there anyone at Welter or Superwelter that even poses a threat to him? And do you think he’s surpassed PBF at this point?
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Who should Brock fight next?
With Nelson’s contract issues and fans not liking the rubber match with Mir, who do you think would be a good fight for Brock? I believe due to his past performances and lack of experience that he should start out a little lower on the heavyweight ladder.
Oh yeah speaking of Pacquiao/Margarito
What do you think of Margarito’s corner not throwing in the towel to protect their fighter when it was apparent he was out on his feet?
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They probably took 10 years off of Margarito’s life by marching him out there to take more punishment.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
I agree with that
The fact that Manny was pulling his punches in the 12th says a lot. Like he and Roach knew but the ref and Margarito’s corner refused to do anything about it.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I think Manny knew he was so far ahead on the cards that there was no reason to go out there and risk anything, nor was it worth punishing Margarito any further. It would have been mildly sadistic to go out there and beat on Margarito for another 3 minutes.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
Ref was doing his job. He could still fight.
Not to defend the fact that it should’ve been stopped but I think a lotta refs wanna let it go cause they want to be sure that they can’t continue. As far as the corner…Pride. It’s all pride. Even Miguel Cotto questioned continuing and I’ll never take any credit away from Cotto if he had quit.
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Why am I hearing some sports show right now on the Radio.com player?
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No sound on the Ustream.
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Did the show get pre-empted on 106.7? I’m just hearing this silly sports show.
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No clue...tehre's absolutely no sound on the Ustream but he's there.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...I called into the station to let them know...hopefully it gets sorted out
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think Luke mention the football stuff gets more priority then the MMA show….if it goes over then they will allow it.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions
if football news goes over the alloted time its allowed because the station gets more attention on football then MMA.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
I called in an let them know...hopefully it gets fixed on teh break.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing on 106.7 The Fan, nothing on UStream. This is not good.
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Call in, phone screener is saying the show is on.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Where do you think Pacquiao stands now amongst...
Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis, Archie Moore, etc, for example?
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for the Archie Moore reference. I love The Old Mongoose.
"Nobody can be a champion forever." - Muhammad Ali
Archie Moore was the epitome of beauty inside the ring.
Given the current state of the sport, Pac is the best thing going – from an entertainment standpoint. I just wish he would stop running Catchweight bouts. Henry Armstrong still overshadows him, imho.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
8 time linear champion….the person behind him is De La Hoya with 5.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
8 Division champ, 4 of those were in the original eight weight classes.
However, by linear, you mean Ring belts. He isn’t an 8-time linear.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea I worded that wrong.
not 8 time I meant 8 weightclass.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Nah...the Ustream has Luke talking to a caller but no sound at all
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...11 minutes delayed
The Screener had no clue about it either…he said it was playing from 9.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Nothing.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Fixed.
You were delayed 12 minutes, by the way.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, it's working now brotha.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Straight boxing?
Manny tunes his ass up. ESPECIALLY after seeing Brock’s reaction to getting hit a few times.
BOOSH
How fucking good is Walking Dead?!
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good? Its great.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
E P I C...
"Okay, I stay clever like Mayweather, will lay leather 'til your face sever, one of the greatest ever." -- Big Daddy Kane
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait a minute
I thought you didn’t watch tv, liar!
:)
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with everything they say.
My father is addicted. And this man just plays online poker and goes to bed.
It's a great show
And already picked up for a next season.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
TVs best drama right now, as a show overall I gotta go with #2 Community has my heart right now as the best show
I got it like this
1. The League (killing it)
2. Community
3. Always Sunny
4. Walking Dead
5. Outsourced
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather have my back waxed than watch Always Sunny.
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Holy shit
How can one man have both great and horrible shows?
Always Sunny? Yes. Outsourced? GTFO.
BOOSH
I don’t. The only TV programming I’ve watched in the last year is UFC programming, the WEC, and The Walking Dead, which I started watching on a whim.
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Don't be a liar
I told you to watch it you liar.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Luke...
Answer honestly…
If you had to rank Pacquiao amongst the top ten all-time greats… where would you place him?
I couldn’t place him above five just based on his Catchweight bouts, but thats my opinion.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i think that’s the difference……how can you say Pacman is the greatest athlete right now if hes not a top 5 p4p all time in his sport? Tiger’s Probably #2 all time in golf….Kobes in the top 5 all time in NBA history etc. etc.
He's the best thing in Boxing right now.
Not arguing that.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Are you listening to UStream or radio.com?
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
You won't hear callers on ustream
Luke does it as a favor for us, but he doesn’t get ratings on it. Radio.com you hear callers.
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
ustream=Dont hear callers….
Stream the radio station
http://player.radio.com/player/RadioPlayer.php?version=1.1.9205&station=114
you can never hear callers on Ustream.
just listen live and mute the Ustream.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I blame Antiono’s Trainer Garcia…
He should of stopped it at the fight at the 10th…but he let it continue on the behalf if his “Pride”
not worth it.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions
They didn't do anything to cool down, Marg.
Hardly, if any, water. The man was just burnt.
Oh well.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I blame the the Trainer first too…
He needs to do whats best for his fighter…not what the fighter wants best.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I second that.
Margarito was just out of his league. I think plaster of paris would have evened the playing field.
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by Ryan Tical on Nov 14, 2010 9:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1. reason its attendance was not so good.
lousy undercards…
you need at least 1 good Undercard fight.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:47 PM EST reply actions
I thought Rios was one of the best prospects in boxing
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by Matthew Roth on Nov 14, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
true, but he is on his way to becoming the next Fernando Vargas…someone is going to kick his ass and not feel bad for him rather happiness.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
example: When De La Hoya kicked Vargas ass, he did a dance…no one really scolded him for that,
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Rios got pooped for Roids?
Oh Vargas did didn’t he?
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I forget that he cheated and still lost…
aka Chel Sonnen.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
The Jones fight was fun.
but the judges again, were either corrupt/incompetent. We complain about judging in MMA, but boxing’s worse.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 14, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
i would have liked 122 more.....
if ESPN Homepage didnt ruin it for me…haha
I don’t think Sonnen will get a rematch so fast…getting a title shot after getting caught cheating will look really sketchy….even though his mouth makes great promotion…he did what he did…let him win 2-3 more for a rematch.
Let Okami fight so he gets his chance, he wins….good for him…1st Japanese champ, if not then he’s on the list of guys who lost to the champ, makes a better case for Spider to move up in weight.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions
Joe Silva is a huge Okami fan. I think they give him the title shot.
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I’m glad you saw the joke there Snowden.
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by Brian Mayes on Nov 14, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Thats crazy a spots news covering a sports event!
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions
Thats the problem with international fights, if its not live then people are going to be told the results before its broadcast…
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think Marqiuto got hit almost 150 times to the face.
But you don’t need me to tell you, just look at the picture.
Thats me and Court Mcgee in the picture.
by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions
Living in hawaii
makes me realize just how much BJ needs to get away from Hilo for training. I get the feeling Hughes is gonna give him a huge wake-up call.
3 losses in a row…that sucks…
Its been said Penn’s camp is full of “yes” men.
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
and the other thing that bothered me was when Penn said was he's going back to "old school fight training"
sparring, jiujitsu, AND jogging…
I mean shit, Mr. Cardio himself said he won’t be doing all those strength and conditioning stuff and will be doing strictly jogging for his cardio. good luck with that.
anything’s gotta be better then what hes been doing in his last two fights,
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by Guillermo Ponce on Nov 14, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that's how to fix your cardio.
eliminate almost all of your conditioning workouts.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 14, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
he should've just got back with the Marinovich's
and stayed disciplined. Instead of coming to the last two bouts with his trademark belly.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 14, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
What was the awesome quote that Penn gave before 118? Something along the lines of “Some people Train really hard…before this fight i rested really hard.” haha
and that being said, I’m with Luke, all the tools and skills are on Penn’s side. He will have an advantage everywhere, but dammit he should let go of people telling him he’s the best and start training hard again.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 14, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Is it so hard to head to California and set up camp without your damn brothers and friends
and just train with talented guys like the Diaz bros again?
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 14, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it is
For a 31 year old with a kid, and a girlfriend…and a guy who has lived in Hawaii his whole life (Living on this rock is much different then growing up in Chicago for instance)
Luke
What happens if hughes wins convincingly against Penn? Does that force the UFC to give hughes a fight in the upper echelon of that division? Can he still be competitive in that realm?
if hughes wins?
jake shields matt hughes,
by sittingbull on Nov 14, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, Brian!
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by Luke Thomas on Nov 15, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
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