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Brocktober starts tonight at 7:00 PM EST with - Lesnar vs. Herring, Lesnar vs. Couture and Lesnar vs. Mir 2:
In anticipation of their UFC heavyweight championship title clash at "UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez," UFC champion Brock Lesnar and challenger Cain Velasquez will be featured on "UFC Primetime," a weekly, three part series premiering Wednesday, October 6 at 11:00 PM EST on Spike TV.
Join us at Bloodyelbow.com for part one and share your thoughts as the show unfolds.

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Am I the only one who’s sick of the fighters punching lego block letters in these Primetime episodes? Though I would like to see Lesnard do a flying kick into his name GSP style.

Food goes in here

by Pandanus on Oct 6, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Lesneard?

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Oct 6, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lestarded

EFFING AWESOME

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I understand

by disinferno06 on Oct 6, 2010 8:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I could live with it

if they stopped flashing to white every time anyone lands anything in a fight in all their promos. Getting old.

by t-ha on Oct 7, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This countdown has the potential to be epic.

"I’m the UFC Heavyweight Champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar

by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 6, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

He looks like Steroid Santa Claus

he’s got a bag full of chemicals and hypodermic needles.

But yes, if he keeps the beard then I’m definitely rooting for him against Cane.

West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.

by Fake Emcee on Oct 6, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone forgot

to take off his face warmer

First of all, I wanna thank God for giving everybody so much, and me, so little. I hate you, I hate you, and I don't even know you and I hate your guts. I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else, but you.

by Blue22AMD on Oct 6, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brock Lesnar is fucking scary.

by StephenDedalus on Oct 6, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

My three year old says....

“wow!! Hes like a monster!”

by Brandon Starr on Oct 7, 2010 2:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This will be so epic.

Both men are so goddamn confident. This is the true test of Cain man. If Cain can beat a D1 wrestler THAT big and technical on the ground who also has a good chin he’s even more for real.
I’m, most of all, so interested in what Cain will do to win this fight.

by sanfrecce on Oct 6, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

you must not know Cain too well?

Cain is Div1 and HAS wrestled people as big if not bigger then brock.

If Cain can sprawl and brawl and stay standing with him the first round he will be fine. Don’t be suprised if Cain takes him down aswell.

I have this fight ending round 3 TKO Cain gets the belt

by crewshal on Oct 6, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he meant if he can outwrestle him. I think he meant, beat a guy that big, who also happens to be a D.1 wrestler. Also, didn’t they already meet on a mat in college?

by disinferno06 on Oct 6, 2010 8:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

did those bigger division 1 wrestling champions punch him in the face or try to choke him unconscious during there match?

"I’m the UFC Heavyweight Champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar

by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 6, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not likely

Brock is 5 years older than Cain

by Pantherhare on Oct 7, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you’re right. I hate Brock and really like Cain.

by 775assassin on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Most anticipated fight of the year for me for sure. Can’t fucking wait! All signs point to Cain winning via superior striking, pace, endurance, actually using his wrestling in fights, but damn Lesnar is a FREAK of nature. Should be epic. If Brock wins this I think I’m ready to crown him #1 in the world.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Oct 6, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

cain is a beast. if he cant beat lesnar nobody can

by shamo84 on Oct 6, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya if Brock wins he is in my mind unbeatable for the foreseeable future

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Cain will beat Brock, I am accepting sig bets.

by KingAtRock on Oct 6, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to see him make some more improvements in the striking game

Before I say he is unbeatable… He has grown as a MMA fighter in every bout by leaps and bounds but he is clearly not that technically sound with his hands which is a shame when you consider the power he has breaking Herring’s orbital bone on the first punch.

I just want to see him get to a decent level with his hands so he can at least give you a Chael Sonnen before taking you to the floor.

by Chris Hines on Oct 6, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Aldo

may have something to say about that.

by cmons on Oct 7, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

In some sort of universe where if brock and jose aldo met, the gods of fairness would make jose aldo just as big as lesnar but allowed him to keep all his technical prowess and speed, he would have something to say about that.

by castleeb on Oct 7, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm soooooo excited

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Cain will beat Brock, I am accepting sig bets.

by KingAtRock on Oct 6, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I used to hate Brock

But he’s becoming quite a bit more fan friendly lately and doesn’t have the same piss-poor attitude he once did.

by DEEPLimpact on Oct 6, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if his surgery really did change him?

I wasn’t sure at first but he has seemed to calm down some.

by Chris Hines on Oct 6, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO NO NO

He’s the SAME dude. He hasn’t changed at all with the exception of appreciating life more. People just aren’t looking at him with blinders on.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard he picks flowers to take to old ladies in the retirement home, saves kittens from trees and travels with a flock of baby lambs now:)

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 7, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will also co-sign this statement

He was very humble in his post-fight against Carwin, and totally won me over.

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by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Oct 6, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was humble after Randy

And humble after losing to Frank and humble after Min Soo Kim.

If you talk shit to him, you will piss him off.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he ever

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The big freaking SLAYER logo on his gym wall makes me love this guy even more. Listens to SLAYER and kicks peoples ass for a living. I wish they would catch wind of this and write him a walkout song…

by reciprocal on Oct 6, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy Brocktober, commentariat!

Free Coors Light, beef jerkey, and strawberries for all.

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Trane UFC for maximum death fighting abilities, brah.

by doubleleg on Oct 6, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The way that youtube video is frozen

He kinda looks like the late Christopher Reeve

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by Anthony Pace on Oct 6, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Too soon man

too soon…

West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.

by Fake Emcee on Oct 6, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most zitty faced teenagers on an MMA website have no idea who Chris Reeve was

He was a mighty, mighty man.

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by Anthony Pace on Oct 6, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cain Velasquez = knockout artist

Pro-wrestling and MMA: I have the best of both worlds.

by Rod Mapada on Oct 6, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

My thoughts exactly

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by Damon O. on Oct 6, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Knocking out Nog means something.

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

are we supposed to proclaim Mir as a knockout artist then?

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by Rod Mapada on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

He will knock you out. Ask Congo, Cro Cop and Nog. Pretty impressive if you ask me

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

he didnt KO Cheick

He choked him out.

I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.

by Earl Montclair on Oct 7, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the beard

is a great move. It somehow transforms him from WWE douchebag to a heroic viking type.

by Andy Davis on Oct 6, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

team coco

He looks like a seriously jacked Conan O’Brien now!
without the humor or awkwardness.

show me a woman wearing a tweety bird t-shirt, I'll show you a woman who steals from the grocery store.

by slaughterhousejacksonfive on Oct 6, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

He looks like Phillip Seymour Hoffman

I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.

by Earl Montclair on Oct 6, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm here! Roll Call!

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

What up?

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by Damon O. on Oct 6, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

made the switch, hello there

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hiya

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by marta_gallo on Oct 6, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I made it yo

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That beard is the stuff that dreams are made of

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes keeping the beard right?

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh. Do not like seeing guys do leg lifts like that.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm with you.

Proper form please

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not even about form. It’s just a bad exercise. It’s not a motion that you would ever use in any aspect of life.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I'm a fan of the leg lift

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those too

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over/under the word ‘cardio’ being used 100 times in the series.

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll take it

Whats the term of the bet?

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets take a shot everytime they say it

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by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have a beard, get up and say...

LEEEESSSSSNNNAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

LEEEESSSSNAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!!

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good enough

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

YUS!

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ill throw out a lesnar... for my recently departed beard

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LESNARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

LEEEESSSSSNNNNAAARRRRRRRRRRRR

rockin the civil war beard

(chops connected to mustache FTW)

by cmons on Oct 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Where’s KidAtRock? I got a sig bet with him

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Brock Lesnar: Proud supporter of the Wild West

"The greatest enemy will hide in the last place you would ever look." - Revolver

by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

and beef jerky

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My god that beard is sexy.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

Look at dem kettle bells.

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap!

I missed that…how heavy were they?

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by marta_gallo on Oct 6, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to go with heavy.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caught them second time around…look like 36kg

Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before. -Mae West

by marta_gallo on Oct 6, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

SIGH

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

banhammer

please

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It’s not my fault if brock admires him so much he decided to go for the retard look.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh, the classics.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 7, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

wtf

that’s my wife the minute I walk through the door.

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by Koob on Oct 7, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's killing pat barry

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Pat Barry?

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by Damon O. on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Are Marty and Brock having a beard-growing contest?

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Crow Striking.

So who is he flying with to learn to throw a punch and take a hit?

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i kinda think he knows how to take a hit

his chin is solid

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure.

He just doesn’t fight back during said hit. haha.

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

his boxing form definately sucks

but his chin shouldnt be questioned

We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!

by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you have an adamantium chin, you don't need to

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

People

Said the same thing about Chuck. If he doesn’t learn to defend himself on his feet, he gonna get knocked out and keep getting knocked out.

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

God. I am pumped for this fight.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope he keeps the beard

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem admitting I used to be anti-lesnar… I have officially jumped ship with that beard

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I actually jumped ship after the Carwin fight. He showed mucho balls and then said/signed where he wants to fight every 3 to 4 months

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I jumped ship when he beat The Undertaker in a hell in a cell match in 2002, but then again, I’m weird and love bloodbaths.

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by RagingNoodles on Oct 6, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get your face

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Kind of weak beard for a dude who lives in the middle of nowhere and hunts.

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

[Viking scream]

“We come from the land of the ice and snow………….”

by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Oct 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Those bumps on my arm...they're there.

SOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING READY

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Lay off the steroids

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by Damon O. on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? They’re playing up this angle?

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yea, they went there

Any second, Cyprus Hill and maybe some Kinky will play

by Krimson on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This fucking music!!!

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Why didn’t they lead off with low rider here….

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh, let's get back to BROCK

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

No

Lets stay on Cain.

"One should always be cold minded and remember that a ridiculous incident may occur any time."

by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your mancrush is sickening.

Mayhem said that you are his idol.
Sakuraba: If he means it, he should demonstrate his respect. If he means it, he shouldn't punch me...If he does that during the fight, I'm gonna say "Hey, what you are doing right now is not even close to respecting me!" Then I'lI probably throw him on the judge's table.

by lowellthehammer on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Or I like interesting TV and not some racial pandering melodrama

And yes if Cain was Black, I’d feel the same way before anyone asks.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nobody asked.

And talking about Lesnar eating a lot as a kid hardly classifies as interesting to me.

Mayhem said that you are his idol.
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by lowellthehammer on Oct 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said the same thing BELOW about Lesnar's part

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Not to sound homophobic…but you can only ’’play’’ gay so much buddy

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

fun fact, did you know that Cain is part Mexican?

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

NO FUCKING WAY

Mayhem said that you are his idol.
Sakuraba: If he means it, he should demonstrate his respect. If he means it, he shouldn't punch me...If he does that during the fight, I'm gonna say "Hey, what you are doing right now is not even close to respecting me!" Then I'lI probably throw him on the judge's table.

by lowellthehammer on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn i thought brown pride meant something completely different THANKS

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by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the big turd complex

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no fucking way

wouldnt that make him the first mexican heavyweight champ is he wins then? wtf how come noone said this before

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by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haaayyyooo

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Day labor background? I’m pretty sure Cain wasn’t a migrant worker.

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yus

But migrant workers buy PPVs

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

A "day labor background"? WHAT THE FUCK?

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow at this shit.

UFC I am disappoint.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

NO FUCKING WAY

THEY"RE PLAYING UP HIS POPS AS A DAY LABORER?

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

So

They play up Brock being a redneck hunter?

Whats the Diff.

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they don't

And if they did. At least it’s about BROCK and not his fuckin father.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what I'm writing about tomorrow.

Sorry, part 2 of the interview will have to wait.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

LOOK! HIS DAD SPEAKS SPANISH! SEE?! WERE TOTALLY RIGHT WITH THE WHOLE MEXICAN THING! ONLY MEXICANS SPEAK SPANISH!

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

? I thought Mexicans spoke Mexican…

by frosnt1 on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ok back to brock

watch them show brocks dad on his viking ship raping and pillaging next

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by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Brock’s father FEEDS you, and saves AMERICA!!! Show some goddamn respect!

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 7, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

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by Drunken cutman on Oct 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell no! Damn…:)

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 7, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God!

You never no on this here internets thing.

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by Drunken cutman on Oct 7, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

True:) I shoulda used the ~S for sarcasm. Just a smartass reaction to the anti-Brown Pride angle coming through there…

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 7, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

what no lugz plug? im disappointed lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I smell race wars

Lets keep it tasteful, people

by Krimson on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

didnt mean any disrespect, just think its ridiculous how much they’re playing up hes multicultured

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naw naw, not knocking you

I just sense this being taken a lil too far. Like Arizona and immigration and Machete.

Then the true colors of the keyboard warriors will show. Least not here though………I think

by Krimson on Oct 6, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah i gotchya, thanks for the clearing up

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you watched the radio show with alex jones and joe rogan didnt you?

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by The Omaplatapus on Oct 7, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Camarillo comparing Day Labor to Fighting Professionally

WHAT THE FUCK?

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see a lot of angry lil forum boys jumping off the Cain Lowrider

Sherdog will explode

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

’splain.

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather not because it will stir up a storm

Just go to Sherdog tonight and watch.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great...

lets throw a little pro immigration propaganda in this show.

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

i mean

We get it! He’s Mexican American. No need to only talk about that. “He’s got that mexican heart” “He comes from a day labor background” “His dad came here illegally to provide a better life for his kids” “his dad has the hardest job, loading lettuce, that only mexicans will do” boo hoo, lets see some training!

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

So..

A guy being proud of his father is a bad thing?

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

please

show me where I said that.

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

chucks retiring?

thats good

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by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL..Can’t wait until I get to see this in 3 hours. day laborer…ha!

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Forgive me if I will not participate in the Cain is Mexican Convo anymore

also forgive me for not giving a fuck

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean that in the purest way

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." - Jack Burton

by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit this promo

UFC in the Mexican Flag!

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Which, btw, would be illegal in Mexico. lawl

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Matter Brock Wins (and he will)

This will be known as the “beard fight”

I think someone told him to take attention from the tattoo by any means necessary.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

So

how’s everyone’s week going?

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

People need to calm down.

About mexicans having pride.

Why is it so offensive?

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think its offensive in and of itself

But you put almost anything ELSE in front of “pride” and big problem.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think people just need to grow up.

And take a few college courses on race and class. haha.

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

An Educated Public

Oh….how many problems that’d solve….

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

How about Irish Pride? Big problem? Asian Pride? No?

by Pantherhare on Oct 7, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

That’s not a problem because those people aren’t brown.

I

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by VelociAldo on Oct 7, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one is "offended" about Brown Pride or him being proud of himself

I’m talking about the UFC using this marketing technique. It’s just so WWF.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

If Cain wasn’t mexican, he’d be a midcard HW at best right now.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you fucking kidding me?

Velasquez is a top HW. It has nothing to do with his heritage.

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by lowellthehammer on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea. ok

Cain didn’t get a massive push due to the possible hispanic market. He went from Ben Rothwell to headling against Big Nog.

Pretending like Race doesn’t affect anything is ignorant at best.

They didn’t pick Anaheim for 121 because they really like the might ducks movies.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah ok, I see what you're saying

That’s something I never really thought about. You make points. Similar to how Lesnar got the easy title shot because he was potential money as a WWF superstar.

I dunno, let me think on it.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He beats no one in the top 20 and then gets a number 1 contender's fight against Nog

Hmmmm

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did Ben Rothwell and Cheick Kongo fall out of the top 20?

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, both were at 17.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, it’s bullshit. Cain’s getting no more of a push than Carwin.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can tell you why Carwin got a push

a) He has all 1st round stoppages

and b) he’s just as big as Brock as well as a a similar wrestler.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carwin got a push because there was no one else around. Same as Mir’s first 2 title shots

The delay just forced the UFC to pretend like he actually was a top contender. Cain over Rothwell was a better fight than Carwin’ garbage win over Gonzaga.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because there’s so many other contenders at HW right now?

Morris > O’Brien > Stojnic > Kongo > Rothwell > Nogueira > Lesnar

How is this not a natural progression for a top heavyweight prospect?

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you must be pretty upset that JDS is getting the winner of this fight without going through Nog or Mir or Carwin, right?

There’s very little difference between the two.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I think JDS has earned a title shot more than carwin and cain combined.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

werdum, cro cop, gonzaga, yvel, and nelson are all legit opponents

JDS deserves it

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by milk72 on Oct 7, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

He never insinuated that JDS didn't deserve it

He was more saying that Carwin and Cain were no less deserving.

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by Drunken cutman on Oct 7, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Marketing affects Everything.

If the UFC DIDN"T capitalize on Cain’s heritage to tap the Hispanic market, they’d be borderline retarded.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got a massive push because the HW division is shallow as hell.

His heritage helps in his marketability but has ZERO relevance to his skill level which you implied was subpar by saying he’s a midcard heavyweight. He’s not.

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by lowellthehammer on Oct 6, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the poor showing he had against Kongo, followed by a barely relevant win over Rothwell. His next fight would have been against a guy in the bottom of the top 10.

Lots of guys have been thrown at the top spot for different reasons. Anyone naive enough to believe that the UFC didn’t consider Cain’s ability to bring in a relatively untapped market has no understanding of business.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 6, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's been thrown to the top?

Lesnar for pro wrestling draw

Couture for draw

Carwin because he shittalked his way into a fight and was just as big as Brock.

That’s just in Heavyweight.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You said like who?

I assumed you were referring to who has been thrown to the top for various reasons.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mistaken sir.

“His next fight would have been against a guy in the bottom of the top 10.”

“Like who?”

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could've fought Frank Mir

And Carwin fights Nog for the Interim Title.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nog and Mir were 3/4 in December of ‘09, so I’m not sure what difference that makes.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 7, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He would've fought the loser of the Carwin/Nog match

That’s two top ten opponents. Then he gets a title shot.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even know how this is still a valid discussion. Cain has more than earned a title shot. He more than earned his fight against Nog.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 7, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cain is definitely not a midcard HW, he is a super talented fighter who is more than deserving of the title shot. But, I really think you are right with Race amplifying the UFC hype machine…Anaheim is in the center of one of the more mexican concentrated areas in the country, doesn’t sound like coincedence. The UFC is also trying to make a giant push to become a worldwide sport and what better way than getting some more fans or boxing crossover fans than having the “First Mexican Heavyweight Champ”

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by WeaponElDeem on Oct 7, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhhh

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much different than Brock’s hardworking, country boy meme, the whole salt of the Earth Midwestern cornfed badass patriot extravaganza…

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 7, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Brock

had “White Pride” tattooed on his chest instead of a pecker, would it be a bad thing? Would he be allowed to fight in the UFC?

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

White Pride. Brown Pride. Think about it. Which one of those has a well documented violent past?

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruh, don't start that discussion here

One has a history of subjugation while the other doesn’t.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

Brock should be ashamed of his heritage?

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And...

Your saying that there was no slavery in Mexico?

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This whole chain will be erased but I must say. Mexico was occupied and influenced by the spanish(guess where they were from) and even so, they abolished slavery before us and we started a war because we didn’t want to free the slaves.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

Slavery erases every good thing white heritage has produced? Inventions, exploration, etc etc?

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, you're being obtuse

WHITE PRIDE the phrase was used as a tool of subjugation of others. Brown Pride has not. There is no history.

That’s all I’ve got to say about that.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think...

You are referring to “White Power” which is COMPLETELY different from White Pride.

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. They were both used. Interchangably

try googling “White Pride” and look at images and see what you see

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brown Pride is...

Also the name of a violent Mexican gang yet, you don’t group every Latino who says “Brown Pride” in with them but, because some ignorant white people use “White Pride” as an oppressive slogan you group all who have “white pride” in with them? How is that equal?

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by Comaplata on Oct 7, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

how?

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by Comaplata on Oct 7, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

White?...Brown?

Who cares? Can’t we just agree that everyone hates the F’n Dutch

Good, bad... I'm the guy with the gun.

by El Webber on Oct 7, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

those dirty dutchman!!

by dugmouth on Oct 7, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you one of those people

who gets angry that black people can use the n-word but you can’t?

by Pantherhare on Oct 7, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

no...

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by Comaplata on Oct 7, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

not very far

i have inlaws from Mexico….the first thing he (brother in law) said was “Wow the UFC must have missed the meaning of that tat.”

by dugmouth on Oct 7, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brown Pride is a very chicano thing. I don’t expect actual mexicans to understand.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 7, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Number one, There is no gang called "Brown Pride"

Number two, the phrase Brown Pride SUPERCEDES THEM. It was around much longer than that gang

Number three AND MOST IMPORTANT, White Pride has NEVER EVER EVER in history been used for anything other than subjugation of others and racial hatred.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure you mean “precedes”?

by Mike Fagan on Oct 7, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I meant both actually

It’s much bigger than just the gang. The “precedes” part was explained in the 2nd sentence.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

It has been used for things other than conquering and enslaving. It’s just that pride in white heritage has been taught as an evil thing for so long that you automatically group it in with slave owners. African’s had slaves and Latino’s had slaves. Therefore, using your reasoning, they must be racial bigots who should be ashamed of there heritage.

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by Comaplata on Oct 7, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Africans had different type of slaves than Europeans (white people) Africans could identify with their slaves and also saw humanity in them while white people because of their different skin color, hair, language etc could not identify and treated them inhumane.

Also Africans would only keep slaves from a conquered nation if those people were willing to be slaves not forced. Why would they be willing? because their house land etc was gone.

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by AfroSamurai on Oct 7, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say willing slaves

I don’t get why he’s bringing up slavery. No one else is. Slavery isn’t an issue.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

Your ignorance AMAZES me! YOU said Subjugation… the definition of which is
1. To bring under control; conquer.
2. To make subservient; enslave.

Which means that you said “White Pride” is used to “control, conquer, make subservient or ENSLAVE”! Hence the reasoning in me discussing slavery. So, no, I didn’t “bring up slavery” YOU brought up slavery about THREE times before I ever mentioned it.

Next time you learn a new word and try to repeatedly use it… try looking up and understanding the definition.

I’m done here.

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by Comaplata on Oct 7, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m done here.

Glad to hear it, I think we can all get through our days without needing an argument on slavery. Unless your name is James McPherson, of course.

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by Drunken cutman on Oct 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never seen the term White Pride used for anything other than a term of racial hatred. That would be the difference. I’m pretty sure that’s not why Cain has Brown Pride tattooed across his chest.

by Chromium on Oct 7, 2010 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely

This discussion pops up every once in a while and this is the exact point that the haters always miss. Sure, some white pride folks will attempt to claim that they’re just for the white man and not against anyone, but taking a look at their literature (you have to take a shower afterwards) undermines that claim very quickly.

by Pantherhare on Oct 7, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

According to reports from the first Europeans to explore “The New World” slavery was basically universal in Central America.

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by Comaplata on Oct 6, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you?

Like 15? Yes, Brock Lesnar, of all people, having “White Pride” on his chest would be a bad thing. Yes it would offend a lot of people, if you want to know why, read a book on American History

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Since white people are still the dominate social and economic force in western life it’s hard for white pride to mean the same as an ethnic minorities pride. If you understand my meaning.

White pride is associated with the KKK, neo-nazi’s, and exclusion.

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by VelociAldo on Oct 7, 2010 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hay guys

I was wondering what nationality Cain was, could you guys help me out?

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American.

Heritage? Different answer.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheech ftw

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I'll say about this matter

The UFC wants in the Mexican-American community really bad.

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by Damon O. on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

lol….Maybe I should have waited for them to recruit me instead of just liking something because I think it’s interesting regardless of the heritage of each fighter.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You coulda got a swag bag

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES

they do, and it’s a big community that likes spending money on their fighters…

by dugmouth on Oct 7, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC wants in the Mexican-American community really bad.

Yeah, that seemed pretty obvious. From a marketing perspective I can understand that, and if it gives MMA a bigger fanbase, I guess I’m okay with it even if they’re pandering a bit.

by Chromium on Oct 7, 2010 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see more mexicans in the UFC/WEC more great finds those guys fight hard.

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by AfroSamurai on Oct 7, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man Brock Lesnar is Mexican too!!!

He’s done farming!

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh we know Brock was a farmboy

Can we get some new info?

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Death Clutch for HW's =

Alpha Male for FW’s and the like

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

just wait

that’s what will happen

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you ain’t first you’re last!

by Tats16 on Oct 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

i was high when i said that

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by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Lesnar looked pretty good off his back in that one shot. Gonna go back and watch that again.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Tuchsherersherersherer is also awful.

But yeah, he didn’t look bad.

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by lowellthehammer on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s just his movement that I’m impressed with. He moved his hips well. Showed some flexibility. I mean. That’s a fucking huge dude that looked like a much smaller man.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

“He moved his hips so well” lololol jesus

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brock's frame is ridiculous. He's a one-of-a-kind athleete

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

What joe says really is true. If he had been born when vikings were running around with Mel Gibson he would be the guy leading them into every battle.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 6, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I GET IT BOTH OF YOUR FAMILIES FARM, WHATEVER GET ON WITH THE STORY

by ProfessorNacho on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Farming is rough

and it feeds you. Be easy (expletive).

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was actually in the middle of cutting weight for this picture

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maxx

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by PubeStache on Oct 7, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im sure Carwin is somewhere raging He wanted a countdown special so bad and Brock said no lol

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by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you know that Cain Velasquez is also Cuban?

That’s why he’s in Miami…

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea how many Mexicans are in Miami? Like 3?

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

They don’t like Mexicans in South Florida. Cubans, Colombians and other South AMERICANS look down on Mexicans as lower class

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will Fans Boo Cain if he Beats brock?

Ala Rashad over Chuck?

I think they will judging by reactions in this thread.

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think so

I think Chuck is so beloved that is why Rashad was boo’d.

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

It’s cuz he was white and Rashad was black… haha.

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by VelociAldo on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I can say it was HOT in Atlanta that night

There was a tinge in the air

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur. Things even got a mite awkward at the bar

by disinferno06 on Oct 7, 2010 12:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How many shots of Cain wrapping his gloves do we need?

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

he's really good at wrapping his hands...

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

As many as Brock lifting 8,000,000 pound barbells

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We got one shot of that

And 3 Cain glove wrapping ones.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But did you see those wrap jobs?

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe next episode they'll talk about how good he is at wrapping

because his mother used to wrap burritos as a job or something.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh? So why do they have to be burritos?

Yeah. Wouldn’t surprise me.

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by one.two on Oct 7, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the UFC wonders why HBO’s Primetime Specials blows theirs out of the water?

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Exsueeze me?

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What he said

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you know where to go then

no need for me to tell you how to get there

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well…well now what do we do?

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

ok that officially sucked

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by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

slightly disapointed here

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by milk72 on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuckin terrible

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

Half a discussion about his beard? Who gives a shit about a beard let the guy do what he please’s this is mma not Vouge magazine and which fighter wore the wrong beard style in the ring.

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We take our beards seriously around these parts.

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by s.r.genovese on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Beard was the most interesting thing about the show.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beard was great

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by donkeypunch on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me double down on this

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll agree on that

After that 30 min, I can see why you are all talking beard.

by Bloodsport on Oct 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

OMG

And did you see those shoes?!?!

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

but did you SEE THAT BEARD?!?

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by flyingkneetoface on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You's a

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by Damon O. on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got me

I’ll admit it was quite something/

by Bloodsport on Oct 6, 2010 11:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Man, the part with the lady talking about how hard it is to pick lettuce is mind-numbingly unnecessary.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

It just goes to show you how borring Cain as a person is. They have to resort to the lettuce lady sob story.

by Bandaka on Oct 6, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was totally lame. It didn’t even have any interesting eye candy like some of the Primetime/Countdown shows. 24/7 and Fight Camp 360 might be more flash than substance, but at least they give you a somewhat unvarnished look into the real-life drama leading up to a fight. Primetime has narrative punch of a book report by comparison.

by smoogy2 on Oct 6, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get all the butthurtness

about playing up Cain’s heritage. The UFC is a business; Hispanics are a large fucking crowd. Your going to fault the UFC for trying to BROADEN the MMA audience? What the fuck.

Maybe my own Mexican-Americaness is speaking here, but give me a break guys. It’s good for the sport. I have mexican friends who don’t know a single fighter besides Cain; yet they continue to talk about how excited they are to watch him fight for the first time.

And seriously? You guys are complaining about how boring Cain is? About how unecessary it is to showcase his past? Maybe, but that’s the point of the show; an all access pass. How can you act as if the Brock segments arent HOLY SHIT BROCK LESNAR LIFTING HUGE WEIGHTS. GAGRHHSH MORE OF THAT.

I’m fucking tired of seeing gigantor lift gigantic fucking weights. I get it. Your huge. You have a penis on your chest. You look like a viking. Awesome bro. More of you sparring and less of you showing off your freakish physique plz.

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by miercoles on Oct 6, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no problem with them playing up his heritage. There’s no reason to devote 1/6th of the show to his father working as a day laborer.

by Mike Fagan on Oct 6, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concede

Maybe my post was a little harsh. I apologize. I realize that is kind of ridiculous. But on the same hand, I want to see MORE of training from both of them. No more slow-motion handwraps. More of Lesnar’s wrestling or striking, the same for Cain.

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by miercoles on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

DUH, that's what we're talking about

I coplained about the Lesnar segments too.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 6, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamnit

Shit son, my bad. It’s just my fiery latin temperament.

Did you know MY father was a day laborer too? Got twenty minutes to spare?

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by miercoles on Oct 6, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do tell Mr Wednesday lol

by disinferno06 on Oct 7, 2010 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I still think they devoted way too much time to the Mexican heritage aspect

The 121 trailer is doing too much of it too. “Throughout fighting history, there has never been a Mexican HW champion… Cain Velasquez will try to make history, and become the first Mexican HW champion”. Do they really have to be that redundant in a 30 second spot?

I was impressed with how they showcased Cain’s intensity, but the other 25 minutes where wholly underwhelming to me. Past primetimes were a lot better, IMO, and I think even Strikeforce is doing better with the Noons-Diaz promos.

Maybe it’ll get better in parts II and III.

by Mint on Oct 7, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I was going to stay up late and watch this episode. Was there anything good?

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by IHateMMA on Oct 7, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Cain is going to smash the beard of Lesnar.

Has this been posted anywhere?

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by Pandanus on Oct 7, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

No...

and hopefully it never will again.

by Crazynutts on Oct 7, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cain will win

Brock’s carrying a lot of extra weight from fan boys clinging to his nuts. Seriously I almost thought this was a Bravo Channel blog with all the grown men internet drooling over this guy.

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well..

you stop by after he wins. You can come up with another reason as to why he will lose to JDS and also talk shit about his fans again. It’s kind of a recurring theme isn’t it?

I’m actually up in the air on who I want to win, just felt like adding some fuel. I usually like the underdog.

by Crazynutts on Oct 7, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anybody else

Notice how much bigger Brock got after he was in college? I know you guys love this guy and think he’s a freak, but to me, he looks like a guy who was athletic but roid’ed up a LOT in college and became a freak.

Judging by his personality, I can totally see him being the type to work out like a crazy person and roid up just the same to be the best.

by dave901 on Oct 7, 2010 2:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Or he was a teenage boy going through a 2nd growth spurt like most men

Brock was one of the most tested athletes in College wrestling history. Most people bulk up in college due to great lifting programs and dietary aid.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got the impression that after Sonnengate, it was almost universally agreed that roid-testing in MMA sucks big time. Is it really that much better in college wrestling?

To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.

by KGNLuc on Oct 7, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably worse

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by The Omaplatapus on Oct 7, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I missed that point.

So Sonnen pops for roids and testing is now worse?

by Crazynutts on Oct 7, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, how did testing get worse because Sonnen got popped?

That’s laughable.

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

most guys don’t start getting big until out of their teenage years; you can usually tell the difference between boys and men outside of initial puberty. Boys in teen years, even when they work out a lot don’t really get that filled out.

by JeremyShane on Oct 7, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

That beard better stay for the fight, that’s all I’ve got to say.

by Superstitiousmma on Oct 7, 2010 6:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Or....?

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by Gremio on Oct 7, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warning: The following knowledge is about to be dropped upon you.

UFC/Zuffa is smart. Really smart. Cain went to Miami, not becuase theres tons of Mexicans there. There isn’t. He went to tape the show you saw Aqui y Ahora. Basically a ginormously popular TV show among ALL Latinos. My parents actually saw that episode they showed there so he knows who Cain is now. I showed him the Rothwell fight from my DVR. He’s a fan.

Theres nothing wrong with them showing and talking about Cains dad. HBO actually does this alot too. With Marquez, Mayweather, Pac all showing family side stories.

This was the first episode, they usually suck. It will get better once they tape the fighters reactions from the previos weeks show.

Of freaking course theyre gonna play up the Mexican angle. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Hello? Is this thing on? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Man Im glad I didnt join in on this while it aired. lol You guys are brutal.

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by xFenixKnightx on Oct 7, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

I just hope it gets better. But I just really don’t see them having much material to work from considering their source. These guys aren’t Delahoya or Mayweather. People aren’t interested in farm boys and picking oranges. People want to see guys that are extroverted and don’t give a shit about what they say on camera. i.e. Mayweather.

by Crazynutts on Oct 7, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

next week?

lesnar’s surgery plus comment on american health care plus more rope work?
cain’s asu wrestling, comment on immigration, plus more handwraps?

show me a woman wearing a tweety bird t-shirt, I'll show you a woman who steals from the grocery store.

by slaughterhousejacksonfive on Oct 7, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Gotta have those FUCKING handwraps

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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 7, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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