Shane Carwin Targets January Return at UFC 125, Possibly Against Roy Nelson
by Nick Thomas on Oct 5, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
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PrintAccording to Shane Carwin on twitter:
"I expect to be on the January 1st card. I do not have an opponent yet. Any takers? @UFC. I do not care who the opponent is."
"I have been in the gym working hard. It is time to see where I belong in the mix."
"If I knock my opponent out on 1-1-11 in the 1st round at the 1:11 mark I will give the gloves to a follower on Twitter."
[UPDATE] - UFC eyeing Shane Carwin vs. Roy Nelson according to MMA Fighting:
Sources close to the fight, have confirmed that the organization is looking to match up contenders Shane Carwin and Roy Nelson at UFC 125 on New Year's Day.
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I’m not sure anyone really feels like fighting a roided up gorilla who espouses morality, values, honor and integrity in the sport he competes in while secretly cheating by loading up illegal PEDs.
But hey, whatever. As long as the guy can run away from Carwin for like 8 minutes the lactic acidosis will set in and Carwin will fall over cramping.
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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 5, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
yup because it’s proven that he still is taking roids in the UFC.
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Take a look at him. I mean, I’m bias here because I don’t like the guy but seriously being that big w/ that sort of muscle definition is close to impossible without some chemical help.
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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 5, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
His current physique is very big but not well defined or ripped. It’s actually a bit soft witha lot of bodyfat. Now his pre-UFC physique is another matter and it’s not surprising he was allegedly takind roids then when you look at him. He’s become significantly softer looking when he’s above 265. The fights he was lean was when he weighed in lower than 260. I mean based on what you just said, Brock must be on roids to considering how big and lean he was for 117 right?
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I have my suspicions of Carwin
and I certainly don’t appreciate his “holier than thou” attitude, but if a person could just look at someone and convict them of guilt, then there would be no need for a court system. Was he using steroids at one time in his career? Maybe. Strong possibility. But has he been caught red handed? No. A name on a list is not red handed.
I’m a huge Carwin fan, but I certainly lost some respect for him after the steroid list, which considering his silence is pretty telling to the validity. But at the same time to act like because an athlete once used they must currently be using depsite not getting popped for it is a bit unfair, especially when you are basing the argument on their physique, particularlly when you look at Carwin’s last opponent. The current system has it’s flaws but it’s all we have to go by. We might as well be casting out stones at every fighter in that case.
I mean where’s all the hate for Marquardt, Leben, Sherk, Vitor, etc. etc? They all got caught juicing so I guess they must still be using right, despite not getting popped again? Double standards
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I mean where’s all the hate for Marquardt, Leben, Sherk, Vitor, etc. etc? They all got caught juicing so I guess they must still be using right, despite not getting popped again? Double standards
For sure.
I’m not naive, I have my own suspicions and thoughts on PEDs in MMA, but it’s a bad route to go down if you start calling people out based off their physical appearance. Lies have a habit of sticking around longer than the truth, and the last thing we need is to encourage random dudes on the computer making accusations based off what they think they know about PEDs. Heck, I don’t even care if they have personal experience with illegally prescribed drugs. Last I checked, it was innocent until proven guilty.
by pud333 on Oct 5, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
being named by a US prosecutor
in court as a recipient of illegally prescribed drugs is about as red handed as it gets. Dana White’s ability to spin amazes me.
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by Nate Wilcox on Oct 5, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That is certainly substantial evidence that he bought them, and I will concede that is highly likely that if he bought ‘em, he used ’em, but plenty of fighters have been busted using and BE doesn’t allow people a free pass to attack them.
I get that BE has had a running feud with Carwin, but I really do wish you would crack down on the rampant fighter bashing of the guy in the comments. I know there is no love lost between Carwin & BE, but it reflects poorly on your site when you give the inmates free reign to attack the guy in the comments.
What attacks?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 5, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think anyone at BE would tolerate comments about Vitor Belfort being a ‘roided up gorilla’? Or Nate Marquardt? Or Stephan Bonnar? Or Royce Gracie?
Of course not.
Because those guys are well liked and don’t have a personal beef with BE.
This is true
And kind of bullshit.
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 5, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The only saving grace is how long ago it was.
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 5, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me ask this. If a guy takes roids and builds his muscles so he can bench say 100 lbs more than when he began and cycles off roids but keeps working out hard and retains the same strength didn’t the roids help him be not only who he was then but who he is today?
Yes
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 5, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I draw a line between using roids to bulk up/recover and actually feeling their effects during a fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 5, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But, if a guy gets to the size and strength he does thru roids doesn’t that mean that whoever he fights will feel the effects of their size and strength that was obtained thru roids?
If one has done a cycle where their single max bench went up 100#, then it could only be during their first cycle. Having said that, the gains are not completely maintained, but a fairly high percentage can be maintained.
The problem lies in the training. The whole notion of “recovery” has to do with your muscles recovering from being torn down while lifting. Steroids enhance this process, allowing you to do more work in a shorter period of time without overtraining.
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by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Or stop the chemical assistance so he can drop muscle mass and decrease the amount of lactic acid pumping into his system when he can’t supply the muscles with enough oxygen.
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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 5, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the urn is full of Lactic Acidosis
by who me on Oct 5, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
We are talking about quite a bit of Lactic Acidosis here :D
The urn changed from time to time, they may of needed to stick a particularly large flashlight inside that night.
He could have used that during the Royal Rumble in '94
Alas, they only had dry ice and food coloring.
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 5, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
OOOOOH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 5, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Nelson! YES!
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by Tim Burke on Oct 5, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
the band?
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by Anthony Pace on Oct 5, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
No, Muntz
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by Drunken cutman on Oct 5, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
isnt nelson’s knee still fucked?
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by The Omaplatapus on Oct 5, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
He had surgery last month, called out Big Nog recently too(Nog is out injured too). Originally they were talking Nelson vs Carwin but that may of fallen off the table with the knee surgery. Ben Rothwell is also out with injury, not sure who else they have for him to fight unless it’s one of the younger guys or maybe GG or Kongo.
GG and Kongo
I guess it could happen, but they would only have ~2½ months between fights. Not likely imo
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by Mike Fagan on Oct 5, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
If his knee is fine I think he’ll get Nelson. If not I have no idea. All the talent at HW is tied down. Guys like McCorkle prolly don’t have enough experience, whilst guys like Mir have already fought Shane.
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by sitnam90 on Oct 5, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If his knee is fine I think he’ll get Nelson. If not I have no idea. All the talent at HW is tied down. Guys like McCorkle prolly don’t have enough experience, whilst guys like Mir have already fought Shane.
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by sitnam90 on Oct 5, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No Mir rematch please...
It would be the same fight, Mir has proven his inability to follow game plan or copmpete with guys stronger than him that impose their will.
Give him Nelson, I want to see what Carwin’s power can do against that Chin Roy has… Not to mention the epic body shots on that belly.
Mirs heart is gone.
Not sure but I think between Lesnar and Carwin they ate the whole fucking thing.
It would be the same fight
That’s part of the appeal.
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 5, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I like seeing Mir knocked around as much as the next guy
But beating someone you already beat in dominating fashion and the champion already beat in dominating fashion doesn’t get you any closer to the belt that’s why it isn’t appealing.
likewise. The guy is exciting to watch. I’m curious to see how he handles his cardio issue or if it will be a factor. Honestly I don’t think we’ll see that answered because Carwin is hell for anyone in the first round and I just don’t believe anyone else in the HW can survive his intial onslaught
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Dang you beat me to it Nick
Just posted this as a fanshot
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now yer talking!
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by some schmuck in texas on Oct 5, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not :D
There aren’t that many top guys open for him to fight (who wants to see Carwin vs Mir 2 this soon?) Pat Barry would at least be fun to watch.
That would be an exciting fight
But Barry is fighting Struve at 125
Nuh uh
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 5, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So what are the chances....
… of getting both Carwin vs. TBA (Nelson would be schweet) AND Bones vs. Bader on the New Years card?? How chaulk full of awesomeausity would that be?
Plus, the way Wandy’s been talking lately I think we’ll see Wandy vs. Leben too. Here’s hoping!
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by The Omaplatapus on Oct 5, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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by menckenstein on Oct 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Mir rematch is too soon, GG and Kongo won’t have enough time between fights, Nelson’s knee could be messed up still. I don’t know about Nog’s injury situation, but if he’s ready it’s probably going to be him. Otherwise, Struve and Mitrione are the next guys…
Mitrione only has 2 fights under his belt… you’d have to be some kinda former WWE champ to get such a high ranked fighter that quick.
He has 3.
And he is (the way i see it) the second highest ranked fighter who is available for that particular date, assuming Nog and Nelson are out, and the Mir rematch doesn’t happen (it won’t).
I say make Mir fight Mitrione
make him atone for his fight against Mirko haha
The next guy down the Heavyweight rankings without a fight lined up is: Frank Mir … no one wants to see that yet. So…
Roy Nelson
Ben Rothwell
Stefan Struve
Pat Barry
The HW division is paper thin
There are only like two fights for this guy that are even possible.
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the division is thin outside of the top 4. It sucks that the UFC is trying to let Brock run through the division first because it holds up other potential interesting big fights. I’d like to see Carwin face JDS, but it aint happening.
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Only way that might happen
Is if Lesnar – Cain becomes an immediate rematch, for whatever reasons, or there is a need for an interim title.
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by The American Ronin on Oct 6, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually it’s thin at the top, there a plenty of middle tier guys and even more low tier.
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Exactly its thin in the respect to the fact no one outside of the top 4, maybe 5, has any real shot at the belt.
When you look at divisions like lhw or lw, you see many potential guys who could be champion. Heavywieght, not so much.
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brock/velasquez loser
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
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There is a weird phenomena with the number 11 11 that supposedly gets people to start noticing synchronicities.
Yes
It’s very interesting, in a casual and passing sort of way.
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by Drunken cutman on Oct 5, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He must not like his Twitter followers.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Oct 5, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just Posted By Carwin on his Fanpage
I have been back in the gym for some time helping my team where ever I can. I am expecting to fight again around the New Year. I have a lot to prove and I hope the UFC finds me a worthy opponent. I want to be tested, I want a complete war.
I have been spending a lot of time with John Chamberg and have committed to following his crazy strength and conditioning routines. I can barely walk when we are done working out so I guess that is a good sign. I want to be in the best shape of my life for this next fight. I need to show the world of MMA that I have a place on top of the mountain.
We are working hard to show that I can be a worthy challenger to the throne. In the mean time I need to pay my dues, fight the fights given to me and show that I belong.
-Shane Carwin
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
I hope the UFC finds me a worthy opponent
im pretty sure anybody in the UFC HW division is worthy to fight him i mean he does realize he lost right? He’s a challenger like all the rest. Only thing is nobody else in the division has popped up on a banned substance list multiple times. I expect a smaller Carwin his next fight and personally i hope he loses. Guy portrays one image when in fact he is the complete opposite.
"I’m the UFC Heavyweight Champion and I will be until the day I decide I don’t want to be. And that isn’t anytime soon." - Brock Lesnar
Man talk about taking his words out of context. I’m sure he means someone who is a tough opponent for him and can put him right back in title contention, not some lower-teir guy who’s going to so nothing but add a W to his record.
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by Noah'sArk on Oct 5, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want to be tested
Unintentional humor
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Oct 5, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
this too
I can barely walk when we are done working out so I guess that is a good sign.
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i wouldn’t reward somebody a fight like that considering the allegations against him. Imagine if the ref did stop the fight and he had become the UFC HW champion. The UFC would be in a pickle with a champ on a banned substance list.
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What the UFC heavyweight division currently looks like
Pat Barry
Joey Beltran
Rob Broughton (UFC 120)
Travis Browne (UFC 120)
Shane Carwin *
Mirko Cro Cop
Junior Dos Santos (awaiting title shot)
Gabriel Gonzaga (UFC 121)
Antoni Hardonk
Heath Herring (acting)
Mark Hunt
Cheick Kongo (UFC 120)
Brock Lesnar (UFC 121)
Jon Madsen (UFC 121)
Sean McCorkle
James McSweeney (UFC 120)
Frank Mir
Matt Mitrione
Christian Morecraft
Roy Nelson (injured)
Minotauro Nogueira (injured)
Anthony Perosh
Vinicius Queiroz (UFC 120)
Ben Rothwell (injured)
Mike Russow
Brendan Schaub (UFC 121)
Stefan Struve
Chris Tuchscherer
Cain Velasquez (UFC 121)
Gilbert Yvel (UFC 121)
There just aren’t a lot of options out there, man I hope they don’t do Carwin vs Mir 2 in January…………….
The UFC had to give him fights left over from his Pride contract, he just got beat by McCorkle but at least he did make the cut to 265lbs.
Updated the list.
Pat Barry
Joey Beltran
Rob Broughton (UFC 120)
Travis Browne (UFC 120)
Shane Carwin *
Mirko Cro Cop
Junior Dos Santos (awaiting title shot)
Gabriel Gonzaga (UFC 121)
Antoni Hardonk (retired)
Heath Herring (acting)
Mark Hunt
Cheick Kongo (UFC 120)
Brock Lesnar (UFC 121)
Jon Madsen (UFC 121)
Sean McCorkle
James McSweeney (UFC 120)
Frank Mir
Matt Mitrione
Christian Morecraft
Roy Nelson (injured)
Minotauro Nogueira (injured)
Anthony Perosh (coming off knee surgery)
Vinicius Queiroz (UFC 120)
Ben Rothwell (injured)
Mike Russow (injured)
Brendan Schaub (UFC 121)
Stefan Struve
Chris Tuchscherer
Cain Velasquez (UFC 121)
Gilbert Yvel (UFC 121)
Nelson’s chin looked good against Dos Santos. Carwin probably has more power though.
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I’m not as convinced in JDS power as most are. He lit up Cro-Cop and couldn’t put him out and couldn’t put out Nelson either. I don’t think Carwin will have that problem if he lands cleanly on Nelson.
Sucks because I like Big Roy, but I see no way he can win this
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
If he can survive the first round, he’s got a shot. I won’t believe Carwins patched up his gas tank until I see it in action. Of course, surviving the first round is still the issue.
True, although it depends on if Carwin goes nuts throwing punches like he did with Lesnar.
But him working with Chamberg is a good sign that he taking the right steps to imrove his conditioning.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Helwani is reliable, so this probably happens
Do you have a link to the interview/blog/whatever?
From Roy's Twitter
@KingMO_GDP knee is getting better practiced yesterday, how is yours knee doing, we could do rehab together
and, in response to when he plans on fighting again:
@KingMO_GDP I’m not sure hope the begining of 2011, but give me 20,000,000 million I fight anyone with one leg and wheelchair
really?
“If I knock my opponent out on 1-1-11 in the 1st round at the 1:11 mark I will give the gloves to a follower on Twitter.”
really? all of that has to occur for you to give away gloves??!?!?
War big country
I could never root against him.
Not a carwin fan.
His right hand frightens me though.
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by We All Hate Caleb on Oct 5, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd like to see them do Mitrione, Barry, or Nelson
Hoping they save Struve for a fight with McCorkle.
why not Russow? 13-1-0, 2-0 in the UFC. maybe he can make it 2 buff dudes in a row.
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by Hardy's in your face on Oct 5, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Sources close to the fight, have confirmed that the organization is looking to match up contenders Shane Carwin and Roy Nelson at UFC 125 on New Year’s Day.
Works for me. In my mind it was either gonna be Roy, the loser of Lesnar/Cain depending on how long Carwin was going to sit between fights. Those give him a much faster route back to a title shot than a rematch with Mir IMO.
I guess that means that Struve will get Mitrione and Mir will wait for Nog
I never get my predicted matchups right though, so who knows. Damn you Joe Silva!
In a fight with Shane Carwin vs. Roy Nelson I have...
Carwin winning by manhandling Nelson and breaking him within the first 2 or 3 minutes.
If Carwin can't finish him in round 1....
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Saying he is gonna give someone his gloves if he does something that is nearly impossible is just stupid.
This is a bad fight for Nelson, cause I see Nelson standing and trading the whole fight like he did with JDS.
especially coming off an injury
There’s a great chance that Roy will not be 100% by January and a less than 100% Roy = a Knocked unconscious Roy
Dammit Duffee.
If you weren’t such a diva, I was pulling for you to fight Carwin after 116..Even after Russow embarrassed you.
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