Chael Sonnen Appeals Drug Test
by Nate Wilcox on Oct 5, 2010 10:31 AM EDT
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Josh Gross reports that Chael Sonnen will appeal to the CSAC:
CSAC executive director George Dodd confirmed that Sonnen (24-11-1) and his representatives submitted the appeal last week and asked for documents related to the Los Angeles drug testing laboratory that produced positive results on Sept. 2 and Sept. 14.
Dodd said those documents should be compiled and delivered within a week or two, and that pending approval by the commission chair, the appeal is likely to be heard Dec. 2 in Sacramento, Calif.
Appeals to the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) have a pretty mixed history. Sean Sherk appealed and got nowhere his suspension reduced from one year to six months. Hermes Franca admitted wrong-doing and got no leniency. At that same hearing, James Toney cursed out the commission and got his suspension cut in half after claiming someone tampered with his water bottle. Phil Baroni also got his suspension reduced by half after appealing.
Of course, those events happened under the disgraced Armando Garcia regime. Garcia had to step down amidst sexual harassment charges and his testing protocols were so dubious that the new regime went several events without testing at all rather than use Garcia's methodology.
I don't expect much to come from the Sonnen appeal, but anything can happen. At the very least it will be interesting to see if Sonnen attempts to play it straight or if he sticks to his outrageous persona for dealing with the commission.
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Wasn’t Sherk’s suspension reduced to 6 monthswhen he appealed? Phil Baroni’s as well? Seems like there IS track record of actually getting a reduction upon appeal in Cali, not the other way around.
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Sherk should've been pardoned
and received restitution. The equipment was so poorly calibrated that it tested water blanks as positive for steroids.
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by menckenstein on Oct 5, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
there's certainly a lot of smoke obscuring that case
but Sherk was also taking OTC supplements by the handful and admitted afterward he had no idea that an OTC supplement could contain illegal substances. Pretty naive.
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a professional athlete doesnt know that?
But the dude on roids at every GNC does. That sounds completely reasonable.
He should have asked the muscle head that sold them to him or the sponsor that gave them to him.
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by the-gentle-way on Oct 5, 2010 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Whatever excuse Chael spits out...
his fans will eat it up and declare him both innocent/framed/whatever, all while saying, “Oh man, that is classsssssic Chael!”
You sound confused. I don’t think any of his fans think he’s innocent. People just don’t care about it
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by Johnathan Willis on Oct 5, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And yet still . .
No one, not one fighter has yet to condemn Chael Sonnen. For the most part many fighters appear to be either apologetic and/or sympathetic.
I didn’t even hear BJ Penn shout obscenities.
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VEe is ANIMated!
Jacaré did call him a cheater though
but it didn’t make its way throught the community
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Maybe because people are being rational and are waiting for all the facts? Seeing has how different information has been leaked in different interviews i.e. First it wasn’t a natural steroid, then it was, then the news broke that Chael said something to a guy that worked for the commission before the test, etc. It’s a mess. How foolish would someone look for condemning a man when not all of the evidence is in place, and then it turns out he didn’t do it? Odds are, he did. But let’s wait until that’s final to “condemn” him.
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by ChiCubs23 on Oct 5, 2010 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m all for waiting for the facts.
I really don’t expect the fighters that have been in similar situations to say anything at all but when this whole thing blows over . . . I’m really interested in seeing what happens.
After all Sonnen continued to throw any fighter not named Sonnen or Couture under the bus. The underhanded barbs thrown at Dan Henderson were kind of below the belt . . . I’m just saying.
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 5, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Chael is doing exactly what he set out to do, playing a character and getting people to talk about him whether they love him or hate him. His sthick is so obvious and I love him for it because of the memorable/hilarious/crazy quotes we get from it.
He’s truly the Andy Kaufman/Brian Pillman of MMA
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Personally I'd have gone with:
“Chael Sonnen’s Drugs Test Appeal”
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by some schmuck in texas on Oct 5, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
So he first admitted to using testosterone supplements on the form...
…then tests positive through the regular lab on his A sample, then tests positive through the Olympic lab for his B sample – yeah, that guy has an iron-clad defense.
What was it again?
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Hispanic urine.
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by menckenstein on Oct 5, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are Hispanics known for having more testosterone?
And are you alleging he was drinking it? :-)
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ala Machida style
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Maybe Chael will deny he ever admitted anything on the initial form.
It’s called a quick tap. Nothing to see here!
Please tell me he's keeping the outrageous persona!
I can’t wait for the quotes from the hearing:
“That drug testing aparatus came from a crackerjack box!”
“Next time you want to test me, it will be a one way beating… and my urine stream is holding the hammer!”
This reminds me of Stephen Colbert testifying in front of Congress.
We did know if it would be Colbert (actor) or Colbert (character). Ended up well that time.
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Pretty easy to see the motivation here. He’s trying to get it reduced, that’s it.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 5, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Silence is golden.
The CSAC seems to automatically reduce to 6 months when you appeal, so that is what I expect here.
The big punishment, imo, isn’t teh actual suspension, but the loss of the title rematch. I hope Dana makes him fight a couple of times before taking that road again.
dana said there was something we didnt know yet about this case
im curious as to what he meant
We have a saying back home that if your coming on, COME ON!!!!
I am also curious, but he is probably just full of it again.
"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
Yeah, I’m curious about this as well. It seems that whatever has occurred Sonen was completely upfront about it from the start or at least that is what it sounds like.
Here’s hoping to at least a 6 month reduction if not a full win.
by Empty Thoughts on Oct 5, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Note re: Toney
There was an open Toney fanboy on the commission at that hearing IIRC.
I don’t know why anyone thinks that Sonnen will go all WWE on the commission. When he’s not promoting a fight I think most everyone would agree he is extremely persuasive and articulate. I’m really hoping that there is indeed more to this. I don’t like any fighter to have their reputation and by association MMA’s reputation tarnished.
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Love me some Sonnen
Can’t wait to hear him again. I live in the Sac area and might look into going to the CSAS hearing!
This is good...
Sonnen’s suspension is reduced to six months…Anderson’s ribs heal in six months…walla (voila people, me not french)…rematch
The French do not even have a word for entrepreneur! :)
(not in any way on topic, but I love that quote)
"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
good
was waiting for this. Chael The Politician will show up in front of the commission and be shown leniency. Come back fight with Bisping in the late spring/early summer.
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