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E. Spencer Kyte says it adds up to a big opportunity for Strikeforce:

I'm not suggesting that the emergence of a video game populated by fighters who compete outside of the UFC (and a couple who do like Randy Couture and Jake Shields) is going to send Strikeforce rocketing past the UFC in terms of fans, but is it really unrealistic to think that some of the video game fans who started following MMA after the release of Undisputed 2009 would begin to pay attention to the organization they fight for on their console of choice?

Personally, i don't think the idea is that much of a stretch.

EA Sports franchises from the major sports are amongst the highest selling games each year, and there is no way that only hardcore hockey fans are buying NHL 11 at EB Games. Before I became a rabid NFL fan, consumed with tinkering with my 10 fantasy football rosters all week, I was a Madden junkie. Each of the different EA titles helped fill my useless sports knowledge database and made me more interested in the real thing, as questions like "Can you really dominate the Pittsburgh Steelers defense with a third-string running back?" had to be answered.

Applied to EA's MMA offering, pairing Alistair Overeem and Fedor Emelianenko in an epic clash for the heavyweight title and playing it out on the PS3 could certainly create interest in seeing if the results change when the two actually meet inside the cage. For the sport as a whole and Strikeforce in particular, any new fans is a positive.

But Ben Fowlkes raises the spectre of could-have beens and the mega-fight that was supposed to push EA Sports MMA into the stratosphere, Randy Couture vs Fedor Emelianenko:

The irony of Couture's video game showdown with Emelianenko is that it was at least partially a desire to make that dream match-up happen that led to Couture leaving the UFC in 2007, which then opened the door for him to participate in the EA Sports game.

Now, three years later, Couture is edging towards retirement and the fight still hasn't materialized. It's looking more and more like Tuesday's virtual fight is the closest we might ever come to seeing the two men in the same cage.

"It is what it is," Couture shrugged. "I came to terms with it a long time ago."

So too has Fedor.

"If it's not meant to be for us to fight in real life, then it's not meant to be," he remarked. "That's all."

Had Mark Cuban, Affliction, M-1 Global and the other players who were trying to book then UFC champ Randy Couture vs Fedor, the last Pride champion, in 2007 or 2008 it would have been epic. Instead Randy was forced to return to the UFC after realizing he wasn't going to win the legal battles and then he lost his title to Brock Lesnar. Since then Fedor has lost as well, to Fabricio Werdum, in bout on Showtime.

Josh Gross details where the Last Emperor's career is today, in limbo:

While the two-division UFC champion begins to close out his career mode, Emelianenko's fate is thick with multi-party contract talks between Strikeforce, Showtime and his representatives, M-1 Global, whose reputation has taken a beating for all its sausage making. M-1, it seems, is the king of MMA sausage makers. Sadly, that's not in the game.

With one fight remaining on a contract that puts Emelianenko's American bouts in Strikeforce, the former Pride heavyweight champion's future is being leveraged in an attempt to place M-1 events on Showtime, which currently carries only Strikeforce cards.

"We have our own interests that we need to discuss with the network," said M-1 boss Vadim Finkelstein.

"Principally we feel we're very close. It all depends on Showtime."

Showtime would not discuss ongoing negotiations, though sources on all sides suggest the process has for weeks resembled a roller coaster ride. One day a deal seems done. The next day, not so much.

The attempts to piece together a confederation of non-UFC players into a bigger than the sum of their parts coalition has failed and the careers of the two stars who were to carry that alliance, Randy Couture and Fedor Emelianenko, appear to be winding down. 

Strikeforce wasn't even part of any of the original schemes, instead it inherited the mantle of the UFC's #1 competitor just like it inherited the involvement with EA Sports and the Showtime/CBS deal. 

As for the game itself, the reviews are impressive, but the prospects of it becoming a break out hit in a very crowded fall field seem slim.

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by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish Josh Gross didn’t talk about sausage so much.

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by Anthony Pace on Oct 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing Says Good Marketing

Like a Legend no one has heard of and an old guy going irrelevant fun fights who will never fight each other on the cover.

They should have had Jacare/Mousasi or Overeem/Werdum on the cover. Focus the attention on a couple guys that are
A) Relevant and more importantly
B) might Actually Fight.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why you're not the head of EA Sports

No one knows who Jacare/Moussasi/Overeem/Werdum are. Fedor and Randy are at least well known.

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by Matthew Roth on Oct 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimbo got more ratings than Fedor

And SF could do (supposedly) a major card headlined by the 2 marquee fights on the game.

but they have Fedor and Randy. And neither of them are even guaranteed to fight again.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, EA Sports really sucks at marketing their product.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

EA will market their game well

But its doing nothing for SF… which just shows another way that Coker is inept at promoting.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 21, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is that?

The game is EA MMA, not Strikeforce MMA, in other words, it’s not Coker’s game. You act like these things were Coker’s decisions. EA wants to move units and guess what? Randy Couture is more well known than anyone on the Strikeforce roster, hell more know. Than Strikeforce. So to just be associated with that is to Strikeforces benefit.

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by Worldisart on Oct 21, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I Think

Coker rolled over at every decision that could have gotten SF a bigger potion of this game. Seeing as that’s his method with Showtime, M-1, CBS, Overeem..

SF should be the 100% focus of EA MMA as it is the only US MMA market that is non-UFC. This game should have been released alongside a major SF card headlined by the guys on the cover. It is such a wasted opportunity for SF that its embarassing.

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's just wrong

A ton of MMA fans will buy this game. Some of them may not be well versed on SF’s roster, but seeing the guys in the game will cause many to research them, and maybe pay attention to their fights. I think this is a solid move for SF, and that it helps promote their product.

by phillynix on Oct 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It should be pointed out that another factor in Randy being “forced” back into the UFC is that it was the place for him to make the most money.

Also, comparisons to the NHL, Madden, and FIFA games are not really apt, because those sports have a much bigger place in the US culture. EA also has/had cricket, arena football, and rugby games, and those sports and the leagues involved in the games really haven’t blown up in the US.

by Phildo on Oct 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I would hit play that

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would hit that

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we've found the 2nd act in the life of Gameshark

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by Anthony Pace on Oct 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just got the new M1 game for my Sega Dreamcast and it's awesome!

Honestly, I like EA and have no problem with this game, but I kind of relate it to playing a football game without the NFL licensing.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

It’d be like having a football game without licensing, but still having Peyton Manning and Ray Lewis in the game.

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by Anthony Pace on Oct 21, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it might just draw more attention to how much of a clusterfuck strikeforce is?

by hewsdaddy on Oct 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

or worse and not draw any attention to SF.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What will M-1 do the day Fedor retires?

With no more bargaining chip will they go back to “who gives a fuck” territory? I sure hope so.

by Pontus on Oct 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I thought he was retired???

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

to act like every single EA sports game is a tremendous success is a complete lie

even with baseball EA has stopped making games as sony’s the show and the 2k series are dominating the market

EA has failed with nascar, rugby and many other sports that have a higher following then mma

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

They didn’t stop producing baseball games because the other brands were dominating. Take-Two Interactive signed an exclusive third-party licensing contract with the MLB and MLBPA that runs through 2012 in response to EA signing a similar agreement with the NFL. I personally enjoyed the MVP Baseball series much more than the 2K series, but so it goes.

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by Ominous on Oct 22, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

They should have just called it Randy Couture MMA or something.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

the problem with that is that randy is in the UFC

and just won a pretty high profile match their too

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the point though. It would be using the UFC’s fighter to compete against their own game.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea but when people find out who randy couture is cause of the game

they watch a UFC show, not a Strikeforce show

with tiger woods golf, they watch pga events, not the pga’s lead competitior

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, I was thinking more EA than SF. However, if Randy is indeed done fighting, then who knows.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree!

But the difference is they will be super disappointed when they realize they can’t play as Brock Lesnar.

by truck on Oct 21, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see it now.

“WTF? Where’s Brock’s penis tat?

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF who is this fuckin bald guy with an unpronounceable last name

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah there is a couple that are hilariously bad but there are some really good ones.

There is a bunch of Cain ones that are perfect except there is no brown pride tattoo

by Tats16 on Oct 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

EA may open the door for some new fans

But I also think the fact that;
1) most Americans identify with all MMA as being UFC
2) Randy being on the cover will further this idea

This will probably lead to disappointment.

I imagine people renting the game and being completely pissed when they realize that Brock, Rampage and Chuck Liddell aren’t in the game.

by truck on Oct 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If you’re a gamer you definitely know the difference between the two games on the market.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So you don't even bother with the game that doesn't have the big fighters.

Nobody wants to use a bunch of characters that they don’t recognize.

by truck on Oct 21, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Why pay for no-name brand coke, when you can just get coke?

I’m sure this is a decent game – I haven’t played it, and I probably never will since I’m not a big gamer – but I am skeptical as to what this game can do for Strikeforce. SF was on CBS. CB fucking S with millions and millions of viewers, and I don’t think that necessarily did anything for SF. I don’t think a video game will accomplish much, especially with Randy on the cover. There will most definitely be some confused fans.

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve seen projections which put a UFC on Network TV on par with the NFL playoffs.

by MattParker117 on Oct 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You put Brock or GSP on there, it would do gangbusters. I think those numbers on CBS were done primarily on the strength of CBS as a brand providing MMA to the masses for free, and the overall connection casual fans place on all MMA = UFC. I don’t think SF had anything to do with those numbers. At least in the sense of, “Holy shit, Strikeforce is putting on a free even ton CBS!” I literally had friends say to me, “The UFC is on CBS this week and Fedor is fighting!” I shit you not. My friends are dumb fucks, for sure, but I wanted to slap them.

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

On your point about people who just aren't into MMA, even free

just links to my original thoughts on combat sports in general. Fighting isn’t Hockey or Football or Soccer, etc. Fighting is fighting. It’s bloody and it offends people, and some people will never accept MMA as a legit sport. This is why MMA can only grow so much, IMO. There’s a built-in ceiling to MMA in everyone’s DNA. For some people, MMA will always be nothing more than bloodsport.

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thing there are people like Bisbing, Edgar, and Sonnen to

Show people they are committed to not actually causing damage to anyone in the octogon.

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by the-gentle-way on Oct 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's actually a great game...

I have no horse in the race as to care which video game is better but I find EA more enjoyable than Undisputed. Probably because the fight night mechanics are just much more “familiar” to me

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 21, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, as far as a pure game goes, I don’t care which one is better. So long as quality products are being put out to represent MMA properly, I’m happy.

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the most annoying thing with EA MMA’s pre-release through now is the idea that you should hate or like it based on promotional loyalty. All I care about with a fucking video game is…is it fun? And if I get two good MMA games on the market I’m not able to be pissed about that.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 21, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but I can understand people not being intested in buying a UFL game

Regardless of how good it is. The promotion or league is important to a lot of people.

by truck on Oct 21, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if people want to pass it up because they want the UFC license…that’s fine.

You just shouldn’t hate a game because it doesn’t. Being indifferent is one thing, hating it is another…or being upset that some people like it…

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree

I hadn’t seen / heard those people though.

by truck on Oct 22, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the gameplay is better and you still have some stars that are note worthy the gamer will play the better game.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 5:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

In this case the gamers going to New Vegas

by MattParker117 on Oct 21, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the gameplay is better and you still have some stars one star that are note worthy the gamer will play the better game.

by truck on Oct 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

but again, going to gamers doesn’t help much. You need to get past the gamers into the people who play video games, just like Strikeforce needs to get past the hardcore fans and get to the people who watch fights.

by Phildo on Oct 21, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, today, gamers are people who play video games. Just like movie goers are people who go to movies. They are not a sub set like say a sports fan who also is into MMA. It has expanded directly into the mainstream. And with services like GameFly it expands the market even more.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

there is a difference between gamers and people who play video games and gamers, just like there is a difference between the million people that pay to see brock and the 100k that pay to see fedor.

The majority of the people that bought the UFC video game are not gamers, they aren’t going to give a shit if the EA MMA game is “better” because they don’t know what mma is. So the benefits people are talking about don’t apply.

by Phildo on Oct 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

“there is a difference between gamers and people who play video games and gamers, just like there is a difference between the million people that pay to see brock and the 100k that pay to see fedor.”
I disagree. Videogames have become as mainstream as movies. MMA is not on that level by a long shot. I don’t have the data in front of me right now but there are consoles in homes everywhere. It’s apples and oranges. I hate golf but I love playing Tiger Woods. Fight Night is awesome and is played by more than just boxing fans. If a game kicks ass, it kicks ass all around. Just like if a movie kicks ass, people somewhere down the line are going to see it. An actual MMA fight can kick ass but only a few million will care. Huge difference between the two.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

The attempts to piece together a confederation of non-UFC players into a bigger than the sum of their parts coalition has failed and the careers of the two stars who were to carry that alliance, Randy Couture and Fedor Emelianenko, appear to be winding down.

There are writers on your staff that have not gotten the memo.

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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Who did Strikeforce inherit involvement in the EA game from?

by smoogy2 on Oct 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i was assuming elite xc

but i have absolutely no idea if thats true

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I remember, Dana went to EA years ago and they felt the market wasn’t big enough. He got THQ to come on board and eventually EA came around but UFC had an exclusive signed with THQ. So, EA went on their own and were able to sign Randy and every other name out of UFC. Dana forbid any UFC fighter from signing with EA. It almost came to a huge walkout with AKA as they refused to sign lifetime agreements. There is huge money in this shit.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly what I remembered.

Didn’t they even have prototypes working?

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC just signed exclusively with THQ untill 2018

or so ign says

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have the press release...

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 21, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

…that has nothing to do with anything. Strikeforce didn’t inherit their involvement in the EA game, they made a deal on their own accord.

by smoogy2 on Oct 21, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I understand you can also play in DREAM as well as SF. Sorry Bellator.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, Strikeforce is the only “real” organization in the game. There is however a DREAM type Japanese promotion called Mystic (but no real DREAM).

by Horselover Fat on Oct 21, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana is on ESPN talking about the fights.

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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

brock apparently has no idea who chael sonnen is

i strangely believe him

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

who is this “brock” you speak of?

by Lunatic-Fridge on Oct 21, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope this game does well

It would be awesome for Strikeforce and also for MMA as a whole. Instead of people hating on one org over another we should be promoting the quality orgs that put on great fights. UFC, Strikeforce, Bellator and get more mainstream news outlets and media to cover it. I dont own the UFC or any other org so i have no loyalty, I’m a fan of the fighters as we should be. We should be smart enough to not put something down based on brand loyalty if a quality product comes out on the sport we all love we should embrace it and embrace the sport not based on brands but based on the sport.

by Papercut Elbow on Oct 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

And you include SF in those?
we should be promoting the quality orgs that put on great fights.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I meant it with a certain amount of sarcasm. I enjoy some of their fights, but I would hesitate to call many of them great, not that it has much to do with what banner they fight under. I actually support SF and would even order a ppv if it was of reasonable quality.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melendez/Thompson was a match of the year candidate for me last year.
I just want entertaining fights. I’m psyched for tonight’s Bellator card. I’m looking forward to whatever matches are scheduled on NYE, and I’m dying for Saturday night to come. More organizations, more potential for great fights, and more prospects. Right now there are more HW prospects outside the UFC than in it.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

prospects-this is exactly who should be fighting in the smaller orgs.

Melendez/Thomson-good fight, but realistically, Melendez dominated. It just seemed better because Thomson never quits.

look, I’m not saying there aren’t UFC caliber fighters out there, I’m just saying after the last couple of years of “competition” amongst orgs, that I would prefer if they were all under the same umbrella and fighting each other. Now, that isn’t saying that SF should fold, simply that their place in the market was more satisfying to me in its previous incarnation.

The other thing is, I’m no UFC schill. I don’t care what promotion would have all of the best fighters, simply that I would prefer that they were all in the same promotion, of which the most realistic option at this time is the UFC.

OR we could just go back to the UFC vs Pride days!

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was like watching baseball. The same sport, but just a little different, like teh National League and American League. Unfortunately, things just aren’t the same now, despite my hopes, and that is why I have just become relegated to the belief that one “major” promotion would be the best way.

Damn, Even if there was just some way to have a cross promotion every year on NYE, where it would be champ vs champ. How awesome would that be?

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im hoping for Eddie v Gilbert

From what im hearing Bellator will send Eddie in as a Bellator representative it can be on showtime and in strikeforce’s home arena so it might go down.

by Papercut Elbow on Oct 21, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also this is America business should strive to be better than a feeder org

Isnt that the American dream to start off small put in the hard work and be the UFC or be the next whatever? The UFC pushed forward now we have MMA on all the time even on cable. No one starts a company and says my goal is to be mediocre

by Papercut Elbow on Oct 21, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i dont

i want one org, in one org we get all the fights we want, every fight we wanna see and undisputed champs at the top

a way better world then one with competing orgs

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thats a fine opinion but i think right now we arent there yet

Imagine a UFC on every week? The sport grows right now with various orgs getting different viewers.

by Papercut Elbow on Oct 21, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

id love a UFC every week

that’d be a perfect world for me

throw in the 125,135, and 145 divisions merged into the UFC and I’d be pretty fucking pumped

btw that idea is coming up, i know dana spews a lot of bullshit but look at the constant growth of the UFC its gonna happen

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There aren't enough good fighters to have UFC every week

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t putting all those Jay Adams-type fights on national TV is the best idea…

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by Anthony Pace on Oct 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could if they employed all the fighters from those promotions as well.

I for one used to be all about competition amongst orgs, thinking it would force each to elevate their game.

Unfortunately, it has proven to be even more of a mess and make the fights I really want to see, even less likely.

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think each org has a different narrative

If you missed thursday it wouldnt throw you off on friday their are no implications with one fighter winning or losing in one of those nights with the other nights.

by Papercut Elbow on Oct 21, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They would need to introduce the Inthercontinental Heavyweight Championship!

by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem that’s developing now, with multiple competing organizations, is that you have each organization now employing the championship clause. eg: Belator. Lyman Good is entrenched in a championship clause, which prevents their upward mobility to the UFC. In order to get out of it, he has to lose first. If Ben Askren beats him, well, he’s stuck in that now when in reality he should be developing his skills and be allowed to move onto the UFC on a win streak. In my perfect world, there would be the NFL of MMA, with various feeder leagues developing prospects to fight on the big stage. One champ. UFC is the best bet.

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why it is important to have guys like SF around. At the regional level. And not trying to take the UFC pie. Guys can get a couple wins and jump back in. As it is now, they have to go to butt-fuck-nowhere and fight for “Joe the Plumber’s BBQ Brawl” to get wins and stay in the UFC’s good graces for a second chance. Now this latter bit is a problem that the UFC created by being so petty, but it is what it is.

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have nothing against MMA being on TV or the internet or whatever other format at all times. I would love it. My girlfriend, however, would hate it. She hates the fact that MMA has no “off season.”

by pud333 on Oct 21, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i dont
i want one org, in one org we get all the fights we want, every fight we wanna see and undisputed champs at the top

a way better world then one with competing orgs

In one org you get the fights they tell you you want

by Papercut Elbow on Oct 21, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nonsense

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by Chris Barton on Oct 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game is in a terrible release window, don't expect it to sell well

Fallout: New Vegas
Medal of Honour
Black Ops
Force Unleashed 2
Fable 3

I personally have these all well ahead of EA MMA on my purchase list (especially after that shitty demo)

by MattParker117 on Oct 21, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The bolded one is all I need!!
Fallout: New Vegas
Medal of Honour
Black Ops
Force Unleashed 2
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by truck on Oct 21, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

im so sick of first person shooters

i got tired midway between mw1, resistance 2, killzone 2 (best one ive played btw) and mw2

go fallout its a fps but way way way more awesome

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by milk72 on Oct 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only shooter I play is

whatever COD game came out most recently

by truck on Oct 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fallout is incredible. Great storytelling, unbelievably deep gameplay. Along with BioShock, I think they are on another level.

by memitim on Oct 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great game

MMA is clearly a better game than Undisputed. The training part is fantastic, fight mechanics/controls are solid, and I like the diverse roster. I think it does a lot to help promote Strikeforce since so many SF fighters are in the game. UFC is there too, but I think it really gives SF a boost.

by phillynix on Oct 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like a cool game but no way im buying it…
FALLOUT New Vegas came out tuesday
& the New call of duty black ops comes out in a few wks.

to be honest i never played the ufc games much either, tho i own both 09 and 10.
to me those games are funner to play when u have a group of ppl over and ur playing against each other

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by baldspot23 on Oct 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, that crucial intersecting market of hardcore gamers and knowledgeable MMA fans. That will translate into dozens of sales.

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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 21, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Firepro Wrestling sold a fair number of games to that niche market. Add that to EA fans and MMA fans,“fighter” fans, and Couture fans – who knows what you end up with. Of course, some people will judge its success based on how it competes with Undisputed which is a fairly irrelevant metric.

by Jonathan Snowden on Oct 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something to note when it comes to Fighter Share

After you download them check the stats, I had a GSP CAF with a takedown stat of 33.

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by RobertGBP on Oct 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a nice thing, though, that EA MMA doesn’t have M-1 Global in it… you’d never be able to fight Fedor. At least you’d have to send a $500 check to Vadim every time you want to.

Don't like wrestling in MMA? Go watch K-1.
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by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Oct 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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