Judo Chop: The Techniques That Made Brock Lesnar UFC Champ
When Brock Lesnar entered the UFC it was no secret that he was an amazing physical specimen who combined incredible size and strength with the speed and athleticism usually seen only at the lighter weights. We also knew he was an accomplished free style wrestler based on his NCAA division one national championship.
Since then we've learned that Lesnar has a lot more to offer than raw power and take downs. He's proven an assiduous student of the game and has unleashed some impressive catch wrestling and jiu jitsu in his championship run.
Here are the previous Judo Chops we've run on Lesnar to help you get ready for his title defense against Cain Velasquez on Saturday at UFC 121:
I also wanted to highlight a most excellent FanPost by BloodyElbow reader BlackLesnar Break It Down: Brock Lesnar (Black Lesnar is now better known to Watch Kalib Run readers as S.C. Michaelson). This is one of the best and most in-depth dissection's of a fighter's strengths and weaknesses I've ever read.
In response K.J. Gould of Cage Side Seats posted this very informative correction of my Judo Chop in which he explained the catch wrestling techniques and terminology that Michaelson and I missed in our analysis of Lesnar's grappling against Frank Mir at UFC 100.
In the full entry we'll hear from Brock's BJJ coach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu world champion Rodrigo "Comprido" Medeiros.
As a bonus we'll also hear from the Gracies and Lesnar coach Erik Paulson about the arm triangle choke that Lesnar used to tap out Shane Carwin in his last title defense at UFC 116. We'll also see a bonus animated gif of the choke.
Here's Comprido talking about his top student with World Extreme Fighter:
BH: How has working with a man of Brock Lesnar's size and wrestling ability helped you with your Brazilian jiu jitsu?
RCM: He's not just bigger and stronger than me, he's also more athletic and faster. He's a huge challenge. I have to be much better on all the details when I train with him, my technique has to be perfect. He's kind of a nightmare.
BH: Not many people expected a submission win for Brock at UFC 116 against Shane Carwin, what were your thoughts?
RCM: Yeah, I expected it, even if he had pulled a sub off from the bottom I would have expected it. He's very talented and learns fast. He's the first person to have ever handled a straight punch from Carwin and survived. He had that illness (the Diverticulitis) and he came back even better. I think he could submit Cain in his next fight too, but Cain is also very good on the ground.
Here's Comprido talking to Gracie Magazine:
Do you feel Lesnar will evolve in Jiu-Jitsu even more? Does he like ground training?
Like I said, Brock is every coach's dream. He doesn't complain, he always pays attention to what we're teaching and he's a born athlete. He has abnormal strength and speed. The sky's the limit with him, and he'll continue to evolve for a long time. He's a grappler, so he loves training on the ground, likes training as a whole a lot. And one thing you haven't seen yet is how he has an aggressive guard. He'll surprise a lot of people.
Jiu-Jitsu had fallen out of favor with a lot of people, who said the public likes seeing knockouts. What do you think of that?
I think it's stupid; what the public likes is a lively fight. There isn't a sport out there where the public likes seeing apathy. Jiu-Jitsu is the most complete martial art, but it needs to be complemented with boxing and wrestling. I don't feel a boxer should turn into a guard player, but it's important to know other martial arts. A good example of broadening one's knowledge is the final round between Demian and Anderson Silva, where Demian, unable to use his Jiu-Jitsu, won the round by boxing.
What do you think of Lesnar's next opponent, Cain Velasquez?
Velasquez is really tough, quick and technical. It will be a really tough, these days there are no easy opponents. The guy beat Minotauro, there are no better credentials than that. It will be a great bout, everyone will see. But I'll bet my job on Brock! (Laughs)
Here's Lesnar coach Erik Paulson discussing the arm triangle Lesnar put on Carwin:
Here's Ryron and Rener Gracie breaking down the arm triangle choke that Lesnar used to beat Carwin at UFC 116:
Here's Lesnar applying the choke:

Here we see Lesnar trapping Carwin's left arm before passing his guard. Note that Lesnar moves his legs to his right to create a more perpendicular angle to Carwin's body. Carwin resists the choke by gripping his hands together and pushing against Lesnar in an attempt to keep some space open for the blood to keep flowing to his brain. Lesnar adjusts his position one final time to get a little bit off the ground and force Carwin's left arm up higher and tighter against his neck. Game over.
Here's Wikipedia explaining the arm triangle:
Arm triangle choke, or arm triangle, is a generic term describing blood chokeholds in which the opponent is strangled in between his or her own shoulder and the performer's arm. This is as opposed to the regular triangle choke, which denotes a chokehold using the legs, albeit with a similar mechanism of strangulation against the opponent's own shoulder. An arm triangle choke where the performer is on the side of the opponent and presses a forearm into opposite side of the neck of the opponent is called a side choke, such as from the kata-gatame hold.
Diagram of an arm triangle choke via Wikipedia:
Here's Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira explaining the arm triangle choke and how to apply it:
Here's Submission 101 with some tips and tricks for applying the arm triangle:
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Hemminger’s interview got quoted! And it’s my question too!
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by Ben Thapa on Oct 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Woot!
Thapa is a beast with his questions! It’s always nice to get a shoutout in a Kid Nate article :-) I’m gonna go to a Comprido seminar in November I think, maybe I’ll talk to him again.
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by Brian Hemminger on Oct 20, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved that triangle, instead of pounding Carwin out, he chose the choke and showed hes maturaty in the sport.
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Here's a Stockade lockflow video
Lockflows, sometimes known as chains (as in chain-wrestling) are a staple of Catch Wrestling, and are becoming more popular in other arts such as BJJ.
From stockade you can neckcrank, shoulder lock and headscissors (triangle choke).
Oh, by the way, Lesnar’s triangle is not technically perfect. Ideally, he wants to be pushing the elbow down to the floor. Most people who don’t do that try to compensate by squeezing their arms – as if they were doing a RNC. Lesnar is blessed with the upper body strength to make that arm squeezin’ work on just about everyone though.
I shudder to think of his Monson choke from a guard pass.
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Question from someone with basically zero BJJ experience
I’ve long wondered why the arm triangle isn’t more prevalent….how exactly are you supposed to defend against the arm triangle from mount? Seems the options are basically block punches → put your arm in a position to get trapped, or not block punches and get TKOed. Can anyone elaborate on the proper defense for this?
Not afraid to nitpick
Depends on their posture really
If they are postured up, chest well away from you, you keep your hands and elbows up near your head, as though you are boxing. If you get their posture down (they usually will want to stay up to beat your brains out), you now need to keep your elbow down. Wrists still near the face, but elbows down against the body. If they can’t pass the elbow over, the triangle is hard to get. Also, if your elbows are away from your body, you open up for arm attacks and various other nightmares.
Now, timing the shift of your hands as they transition and move from different postures, while eating shots to the head, isn’t easy. It takes a clear head and good reflexes. Not a lot of people have a clear head with a guy like Lesnar riding them.
also with the arm triangle, the same setup for the arm triangle can be used for an americana / keylock. as far as defending the postition you need to keep your arm tucked next to your head with you hand on the back of your head and elbow tight to you head, to escape the arm triangle you need to create space for your arm to go under their head; to do this i bridge hard and smash my elbow into the back of their ear and force it through.
I think the lack of prevalence is due to a couple of factors. Firstly, you’re usually giving up the full mount in favor of side mount. Secondly, it’s more of a “strength move” relative to other submissions, which means that some people find it contrary to the principals of BJJ, although I’m not sure how common of a philosophy that is.
by HarmlessNinja on Oct 21, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Great Chop
Really interesting stuff, especially from the Gracie Brothers.
In case anyone is interested, this move works brilliantly in Judo’s Ne – Waza. I just frustrated the hell out of my training partner for about 20 straight minutes by trying variations of this. Eventually, he started rolling me over, but it fucked him up till then.
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The ole Kata Gatame...
It really is a fantastic move in Judo. Since it also counts as a pin, it’s pretty much a game-ender. If you hold off the choke, but can’t get to your belly, you still lose. We’ve been teaching it, and escapes a lot lately at my school. I’ve been wowwing people with the kesa-gatame-style sit-through the Gracies show up there. It really messes a man up.
My only complaint about this choke is that you can’t feel when they go out. I got choked in practice, not even sparing, and went out. Guy didn’t feel it for almost ten seconds, so he kept squeezing. Took a while to come back to after that. Reduced bloodflow for that long could cause brain damage, but I don’t haven’t since when.
Very interesting
I’m going to ask to be drilled on the further application of this in Judo, and see if I can escape from it too, seeing as my long time trainig partner and I are crazily competitive, and is bound to want some revenge.
Also, your screen name is great.

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by Drunken cutman on Oct 20, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The main way I tend to escape is by getting the arm free enough to get back over their head. With no arm on my throat, I don’t pass out, and with both arms free, I can roll him and get out. He is at the 90 degree angle because that forces me to either push my arm into his shoulder (losing battle) or push against his head at a bad angle. The real secret is getting your bodies parallel before pushing his head away and getting the arm free. Hard to do against an opponent that moves with you.
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