Antonio McKee vs. Jacob Volkmann Planned for UFC 125
by Nick Thomas on Oct 2, 2010 4:26 PM EDT
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According to MMA Junkie:
"Mandingo" meets "Christmas" on New Year's Day.
The 40-year-old Antonio McKee and Jacob Volkmann have verbally agreed to meet at UFC 125 and contracts are expected to be finalized shortly.
Antonio "Mandingo" McKee (25-3-2)
Win Luciano Azevedo - TKO (Doctor Stoppage) MFC 26
Win Rodrigo Ruiz - Submission (Kimura) CCS
Win Carlo Prater - Decision (Unanimous) MFC 22
Jacob "Christmas" Volkmann (11-2)
Win Paul Kelly - Decision (Unanimous) UFC Versus 2
Win Ronys Torres - Decision (Split) UFC FN 21
Loss Martin Kampmann - Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 108
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Good fight
Not throwing Mckee to the wolves and giving him a solid chance to show where he stands. If he dominates Volkmann without much trouble it’ll give the brass an idea of how good and motivated he is now that he’s finally in the UFC.
Props to Volkmann
Paulo Thiago, Martin Kampmann, Ronnys Torres, Paul Kelly, and now Antonio McKee? That’s a very tough lineup.
I hope Christmas stays even though I think he will lose this fight.
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McKee is 40 years old. Its not like he’s gonna be around for many more years, why not give him someone with a tougher stylistically matchup. Jeremy Stephens, or Gomi or Guillard.
Volkman is a better wrestler
than any of the guys you’re suggesting.
2 wrestlers generally prevents lay and pray and results in lots of scrambles and action.
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Volkmann hasn't looked particularly quick to me
and Minnesota Martial Arts Academy really only has had success with guys who were freak athletes with strong wrestling when they showed up. I’m not super excited for this fight, McKee should take it in the usual fashion. I think a fight with Tyson Griffin would be better, but that’s my suggestion for almost every UFC debut.
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by pdl on Oct 2, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I suggest the same thing
except its always either Griffin or Guida.
I think that Guida vs. McKee would be better than Griffin in this case though. Griffin hasn’t really been relying on his wrestling lately and losing terribly.
I think Griffin is a solid striker with decent takedowns
but his speed and scrambling ability are what make it interesting. Guida got out-wrestled by Florian, his defense really isn’t great and calling his striking rudimentary would be generous. Guida is a good test for strikers, Griffin is a good test for wrestlers, and both are VERY menacing gatekeepers to the upper echelon of the division.
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by pdl on Oct 2, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
this tells me they’ve got McKee on the slower “show me” track rather than pushing him forward. They’re giving him a good wrester right off the bat. Won’t be able to lay and pray Volkmann.
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Based on McKee's previous comments about his fighting style...
I don’t blame the UFC for putting him on that track. No need to throw a bunch of effort behind a guy who is more than happy to LnP to a decision.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
McKee is going to crush Volkmann, although he won’t finish him.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 3, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
WRONG
Sherk/McKee is the only fight that makes sense. Two greatest lay and prayers ever.
"There's this image that you have, this interior image of something that's absolutely perfect, and that's your signpost, your guide. And you'll never get there. But without it you'll never get anywhere."
Give up the "lay-n-pray" whining already?
I hear guys seriously calling someone like Jake Shields a “lay-n-prayer” and it drives me nuts. Because i know these guys don’t have a clue or actually watch fights before voicing their stupid opinions on blogs and forums.
The reason i use Shields as an example is because he’s flamed everywhere by internet-warriors for laying and praying all the time when he’s finished 8 OF HIS LAST 10 FIGHTS!
And what about Sherk? His last fight he got Dunham down in round one and opened up a huge cut and then, more or less, decided to stand and bang for the sake of a good fight.
And what about Mckee? Sure, he’s got a lot of decisions on his record, but he finished his last 2 fights in two completely different ways and might go on and finish his upcoming 10 fights for all we know.
Man, the term “lay-n-pray” makes me wanna throw up. This sport is so full of spoiled kids acting as fans.
by sanfrecce on Oct 2, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I agree with you.
But in the “What have you done for me lately” world of MMA, people are having a very hard time getting the Mayhem fight out of their heads. While I understand why Shields fought that fight the way he did, it was the definition of Lay n Pray.
by The so-called Beautiful on Oct 2, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you actually heard McKee's own comments on the matter?
He’s gone on the record before saying basically that what he does (very much a Lay n Pray style) works and he sees no reason to try and be remotely exciting just to make fans happy.
While in theory I agree, basing your fighting style on what makes fans happy won’t work well for anyone not named Lytle, his disdain for the fans in those comments isn’t something that is going to sit well with any promotion’s management…let alone fans…you know, the people paying for all this.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
He also mentioned that it doesn’t make sense for someone to put their body and brains on the line when the rewards are so small and the danger is so high. Kind of makes sense, actually. Though to be fair, he is really boring to watch. I just don’t hold it against him.
Random question: how much do you think the UFC actually holds being “boring” against fighters? Not that Edgar is super exciting, but do you think Maynard’s getting the shot after him because he’s “boring”? I understand from a promotional level that’s valid, but do you hold it against the UFC for caving to entertainment over real competition?
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by chasethegoose on Oct 3, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
They hold it against them A LOT
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t see Sherk stop getting take downs for the sake of a better fight. He spent most of the second round looking for a double leg and being unable to do it because he was gassed. Happened in the Tyson Griffin fight too. And the fight with Edgar.
by VirtualBalboa on Oct 2, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What does Jake Shields have to do with anything?
I think your sarcasm detector’s broken. Or my sarcasm emitter is broken.
Have you ever heard McKee talk about his style? His interviews are basically this: “Yeah I’m boring as fuck but I’m the best fighter in the world. I do everything GSP does except better.” Seriously. He admits he fights very conservatively and tries his best to avoid damage and hold the other guy down.
I was sort of joking about Sherk, but he is a grinder who doesn’t finish fights and is fairly conservative with his ground and pound. I love watching him fight, though, for whatever reason. I think because I like how hard he trains.
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People that think Sherk is a laynpray guy haven't seen Sherk fight
and know he’s a wrestler
"All I guarantee is violence" - Wand
Exactly,
Sherk regularly and repeatedly passed the guard of BJJ black belts like it was nothing…hardly the definition of lay and pray.
Mandingo is coming for Christmas
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Seriously though
why didn’t he just make his name “Big Black Penis Daddy” cause Mandingo is about as ridiculous.
West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.
by Fake Emcee on Oct 2, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's way better than the Muscle Shark.
Sherk should change his nickname to that.
How did this thread turn into some Sherk hate-fest?
Start a fanpost on the worst fighter nicknames and we can hit 1000 comments in no time.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
I'm not hating on Sherk
but how can you deny his Trex like features.
That is a good idea, I hope someone reads that and makes one because if I did i’ll probably do it wrong.
Well
considering that my last fanpost about bringing back B.H. Farnsworth just got pulled in record time I think I’ll get on that.
West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.
Yea for reals what happened to the boy?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 2, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well apparently
as Chris Nelson told me, Farnsworth made a few off-color comments in the Dream thread which really only warranted a warning. The problem is he had been warned a couple of times before, and with the most recent one he wrote an email back to Chris using “homophobic” language and threatening to basically just keep logging back on under a different alias. So yeah basically it’s like with Paul Daley, Chris said that in 3-6 months when the ban expires he can maybe come back if he’s calmed down a little.
West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.
Damn I gotta come through more often
Brrrr what happen to that boy,
brrrr what happen to that boy
brrrr what happen to that boy
he was talking shit they put a clap to that boy
Farns was the dude.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 2, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He posts over at Unintelligent Defense now
just as skank loving as ever.
West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.
What the fuck is that?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i too would like to know what happened
after the dream live thread he disappeared
Monte Fisto is a pimp
The Dream thread is where he crossed the line.
West coast sucks a dick. 2Pac had nothing on Big and Easy E and Magic Johnson got HIV cause West Coast broads are dirty as hell. I wish I was from New Jersey because the shitty bagels and pizza I have out here are making my butthole bleed.
That's a retarded nickname
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 2, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been...
Critical of McKee in the past but I’m excited to finally see him in the UFC and put his money where his mouth is.
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by Applejack McNeil on Oct 2, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Ortiz vs. Matyushenko.
It can’t be any worse than that. Not if there is a kind and loving god.
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by pdl on Oct 2, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
One benefit of getting into MMA recently (fuck has it been 3 years already?)
Is never having to see that fight.
Guillotine.
Fitch vs my patience.
So much cock. A cock guy.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on Oct 2, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitch by decision.
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by pdl on Oct 2, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Keep er on the prelims
That will be all.
by esuohlliM on Oct 2, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
It'll be on the prelims for sure
almost nobody but the most hardcore fans know who McKee. Volkmann isn’t that well known either too even though he’s in the ufc.
Definitely.
McKee, based on his past, needs to earn his way onto the main card.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Im not sure
I do agree with you that he SHOULD earn his way onto a main card but Im not sure that will happen. I imagine it will be on free prelims on Spike if it is a prelim fight if it isn’t on the main card.(That is if they do have free prelims on Spike for UFC 125.)
Christmas fought Paulo Thiago on the main card at UFC 106 and fought Martin Kampmann on the free prelims on Spike at UFC 108. That along with winning his last two prelim fights since dropping to lightweight makes me think that he should get a little exposure again. Even more so since he is fighting McKee who hasn’t lost since 2003. Love him or hate him I just think he deserves to be on the main card or Spike TV at the very least. Thoughts??
Agree
But wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a prelim. The problem with putting a guy like Mckee (who they expect to be boring) on the free spike prelims is that no one will want to buy the fights after watching 15 minutes of LnP.
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by chasethegoose on Oct 3, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
This is true
I guess if the UFC is worried about him being boring that makes sense.
If McKee is really boring then I guess Joe Rogan can say “You should really buy the pay-per-view cause the fights are bound to be better than this one!”
by Lunchbox15 on Oct 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Volkmann by sub
Volk is a friend of mine so I have an immediate bias.
But, I think his submission skills are a lot higher than he has let on. McKee will be tough for sure, he might have a edge on power, but Jake has some really interesting ground work, he will be able to improve his position from anywhere.
Man, I was really wanting to see Sherk vs. McKee right away with all the smack talk Antonio has done over his 75+ years of MMA fighting.
This is a great “stepping stone” for McKee. His wrestling will just flat out dominate Volkmann’s and I like Christmas as well, just don’t see him winning this fight.
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Mandingo is much better at finisging his opponents.
by hexbreaker on Oct 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
How long before
McKee cracks the top 25 here:
I guess you could argue strength of schedule but there’s a lot of people ahead of him who have fought similar opponents with less success. I know it’s contingent on these rankers to put him higher, but I’d imagine there are quite a few people out there who think McKee could be a legit top 10 right now.
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by Marvin Malehooves on Oct 2, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
Well, losing to Volkmann won’t help him.
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Of course a guy with the sig “perception is reality” would think McKee is a top tenner. “The world is just an accumulation of different kinds of power. The UFC has the power over our current perception of the MMA world, and as such it makes us accept certain percieved lies as truths, making them true in our eyes.”
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I think he's a legit top 10 now based on talent
I just can’t rank him that high because of SOS. All he needs is one fight against a top guy and he gets ranked via the Overeem clause.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 3, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this matchup.
Let’s see what happens when someone nullifies McKee’s wrestling skills.
McKee is fighting Lesnar?
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
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