Dana White Hints at a WEC Announcement That Will "Blow Your Mind"
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 2, 2010 2:47 PM EDT
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Here's an interesting nugget that you might have missed on Carmichael Dave's pound-for-pound debate with Dana White:
I brought up the fact that Silva had the opportunity to test the 205 division when he had cleared out his 185-pound division, and since Aldo had all but done the same in the 155 division, would he also get an opportunity?
This is where Dana White puts back on his president's hat, if there is such a thing. Known for fantastic quotes, he also knows when to be coy.
"The (expletive) we are going to do in the next year is going to blow your mind," he added. When asked if that meant anything from a WEC/UFC merger to an Edgar/Aldo superfight, he artfully dodged.
"You'll just have to sit back and watch. You have no idea the crazy (expletive) we're working on."
Naturally, the first thing that comes to mind is the possibility of seeing the best 145 and 135 pounders in the UFC. I actually don't know, or care, how Zuffa would do it - may it be a straight merger or by just adding extra weight classes while keeping the WEC alive - but what I do know is, the best featherweight and bantamweight fighters in world deserve the recognition, exposure, and the money, that their heavier counterparts have been enjoying.
That being said, this hint could mean absolutely anything, so let's just hope that a merger is what Dana is talking about, because as Kid Nate mentioned, it's time...
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Naturally, the first thing that comes to mind is the possibility of seeing the best 145 and 135 pounders in the UFC. I actually don’t know, or care, about Zuffa would do it – may it be a straight merger, or by just adding extra weight classes while keeping the WEC alive – but what I do know is, the best featherweight and bantamweight fighters in world deserve the recognition, exposure, and the money, that their heavier counterparts have been enjoying.
what?
What don’t you understand?
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by ChiCubs23 on Oct 2, 2010 2:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes it is incorrect English.
But I’m sure you understand what he’s trying to say.
bq.I actually don’t know, or care, about Zuffa would do it
He’s probably trying to say…
I actually don’t care or know about whether Zuffa would do it.
by higgledy-piggledy on Oct 3, 2010 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions
with 7 weight classes
they are gonna have to do 20 fights every paper view.
make aldo and bendo come to the ufc at 155
and keep the other lil guys in the obscurity where they belong.
If they assimilated 135 and 145 to the UFC while rebranding the WEC as a feeder league, they would not have to do 20 fights per PPV.
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by Mike Fagan on Oct 2, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why would they have to do 20 fights a PPV?
Zuffa is putting on every WEC and UFC show currently. Why would anything change other than the 3 letters at the start of the show and maybe the color of the cage etc?
The question is what network would they be broadcast on and which cards would be PPV and also what exactly would be the function of the WEC. Would it be just a development league?
I don’t know how they will work that out but the sport is being held back because of the confusion the 2 brands brings to the general public. I meet people all the time that know about Brock Lesnar, Anderson Sliva etc but don’t know what the WEC even is. The fact that 3 letters keeps these same people from knowing who Jose Aldo is is a travesty.
by KidThunder on Oct 2, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Keep the other little guys in obscurity where they belong?
WTF, dude? WEC puts on consistently awesome cards. I mean, if you like 265 pound guys running out of gas in 90 seconds, keep watching what you’re watching. But I’d still like to watch Uriah Faber, Mike Thomas Brown and Scott Jorgenson do their thing on TV.
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by duck on Oct 2, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those little guys are almost without exception (looking at Mendes here personally) putting on some of the most exciting fights in MMA atm. If anything needs to remain in obscurity it is posts like yours.
by Empty Thoughts on Oct 2, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What? They'd still be putting on as many shows as UFC+WEC do now, except they would all be UFC, and a lot more would be free
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Apparently fucking not...
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by Razreshat on Oct 2, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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by mburtoni on Oct 2, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He means the same thing I said in the other thread...
…where you bring 135lbs and 145lbs to the UFC while bringing the other divisions back to the WEC, which becomes like a B-level league to the UFC.
by Newman24 on Oct 2, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They need to do this. We are complaining about lackluster UFC cards and here comes another one without a title fight (Rampage/Rashad). How good would an Aldo fight look on this card?
Not only would it be good for the fighters, as we have discussed the last couple of years, but it could help the UFC bolster their ppvs with exciting fights.
Unless they renegotiate with Versus
They won’t be turning the WEC into a B-league. All reports indicate that their contract with Versus prohibits that from happening.
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by Worldisart on Oct 2, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How would WEC enforce it?
You could still hand out WEC belts. Versus would have a time time in court – Zuffa is still supplying fights in all weight divisions and still having championship fights. Just because they wouldn’t be the best in the world doesn’t mean Zuffa isn’t living up to its contract.
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It's easy to enforce
The first time a fighter is transferred from the WEC to the UFC, Versus takes Zuffa to court for breach of contract, breaking the agreed upon terms that the WEC would NOT be a feeder league.
And in this example, Versus would win.
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by Worldisart on Oct 2, 2010 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Zuffa isn't that clueless
They would just have to agree to do more UFC on Versus cards
Not afraid to nitpick
And considering...
Versus has the possibility of becoming “NBC Sports” in the near future, I don’t think Zuffa would mind all that much having some cards on the network.
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by Applejack McNeil on Oct 2, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to say Versus...but you answered the point just the same
But Zuffa could drag it out forever, arguing over legal definitions and just how would Versus prove Zuffa is offering less valuable fights when their ratings are in the tank to begin with?
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Dana White on something big plan for WEC
I hope it’ll mean some WEC guy will be fighting on UFC PPV cards.An maybe a superfight between Faber/Penn and Aldo against whomever.
by TERRENCEFROMSOUTHEAST on Oct 2, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
I say yes
Faber coaches, not sure who his counterpart would be.
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by some schmuck in texas on Oct 3, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping that its a complete restructuring of ZUFFA organization
Add FW and BW divisions to the UFC, bring along the top 15 fighters in each from the WEC. The WEC expands to include all weight classes and becomes a feeder league, rather than another fully fledged promotion. TUF gets completely rearranged as a way to give tv time to the newly reminted WEC feeder league. Those that are ultimately successful in the WEC get lots of TV exposure then step on up to the UFC.
I doubt all this will happen together, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the (explitive) Dana’s is talking about is a step in this direction.
by Cocytus on Oct 2, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I also like the “feeder league” concept. The UFC has a lot of young guys and TUFers that wash out, simply because they are not ready for the UFC yet. Rosholdt, etc…
They are literally damaging guys careers.
Damaging guys careers, but also the longevity of their business
and that is what will be their impetus for change. The only reason I can see why they haven’t started making moves towards this arrangement is because of existing contractual issues.
Definitely...
this would allow the UFC to cut under performing fighters without sending them to their competition.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
this is a great idea
dana will say in the post-event conference that he wants to cut frank mir for his performance, but we know it’s an empty threat.
in your proposition, he could send frank down to AAA for a fight or two
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are they really?
is it better to have fought in the ufc and been cut, than to have never gone to the ufc at all?
i think not
what a shortsighted remark, BJJDenver
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I don’t think I’d call it shortsighted myself. I’m at a complete loss of names due to being way beyond tired, but I’ve seen a few remarks this year from ex-UFC fighters talking about the difficulties in finding fights outside of the UFC once you’be been cut.
Hopefully others will be able to fill in my blanks. :/
by Empty Thoughts on Oct 2, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not shortsighted at all. Keep in mind, I’m talking about the up and comer, young career types, not the Antonio McKees of the world.
I am referring to guys like Rosholt, that weren’t ready for the UFC yet and washed out. I would prefer to see guys not get rushed and brought up through a system, taking the natural progression, rather than see someone get demolished and lose confidence and thus have a damaged career. And this is in any sport, not just the UFC.
If anything, my comment is the opposite of shortsighted.
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by Balrog on Oct 2, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
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by IKilled007 on Oct 2, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Contract issues...
…with Versus and Spike, etc, make it not so simple to merge the WEC and UFC, at least not until those contracts expire or can be changed. That said, I’m counting down the days until we see this happen. And maybe that time will be next year. Once the contract issues get settled, it’s as simple as putting everything under the UFC banner and having a title unification fight between the LW champs in the WEC and UFC.
Also, add a 125 pound class. Yes, do it… either/both of these things would be very happy news.
thank you...
Jordan Breen pointed this out. All the ‘WEC/UFC should merge right now!!!’ articles are pointless as it can’t be done due to TV deals. Zuffa can only put on so many UFC shows outside of Spike.
I hope this is a 125 lb class.
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There is no such thing as can't in this case.
It’s just a matter of money, will, and time. If the UFC wants it bad enough then it will get done somehow.
by Empty Thoughts on Oct 2, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The WEC’s current deal with Versus might be ending as soon as December. Now would be a good time to try to restructure things with Spike. A deeper UFC means better shows on Spike as well.
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Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's happening
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I have zero faith that it will be something exciting given Dana’s past history with ‘huge’ announcements.
It is probably something lame like a merchandising deal (Faber keychains!) or Frank III is going to step down from his job at Station to help run the WEC.
Yup. If anything, I wouldn’t be surprised to see that the WEC announcement to blow our minds is that they’re getting the bigger weight classes back and expanding the number of shows.
by VirtualBalboa on Oct 2, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they’re bringing back Paulo Filho. That would blow my mind.
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by crazybones on Oct 2, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
DW’s big “mind blowing” announcements are usually epic teases
- Harley Davidson sponsorship
- Budweiser sponsorship
- office in canada
Let’s not get too excited folks. Although I’m hoping we will get a merger , It will probably be something like international fights (a card in mexico city??)
Exactly.
It’s difficult to imagine there are people who follow MMA and still take White’s words to mean anything more than promotion.
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 2, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Some beer aided fantasy matchmaking
UFC 119: Aldo vs Gamburyan
Aldo vs Gamburyan
Mir vs Cro Cop
Bader vs Nogueira
Torres vs Valencia
Sherk vs Dunham
UFC 120: Bisping vs Akiyama
Bisping vs Akyiama
Faber vs Mizukagi
Hardy vs Condit
Bowles vs Fabianno
Kongo vs Browne
UFC 121: Lesnar vs Carwin
Lesnar vs Carwin
Shields vs Kampmann
Ortiz vs Hamill
Henderson vs Florian
Sanchez vs Thiago
UFC 122: Bowles vs Jorgensen
Bowles vs Jorgensen
Marquardt vs Okami
Swanson vs Brown
Riveira vs Sakra
Sadollah vs Sobotta
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by MattParker117 on Oct 2, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
As someone who can’t stand Frankie Edgar, I’d gladly pay $50 to see Jose Aldo brutalize him for 25 minutes.
by BrandonC on Oct 2, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Fairly certain they’re doing the merger or something similar.
perception is reality
by Marvin Malehooves on Oct 2, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
The announcement will blow my mind
They are adding a 125 lbs weight class.
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I thought we already knew they’re doing that.
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“Blow your mind” isn’t neccessarily a good thing, I mean if he announced that the WEC would start using the Yamma Pit for all their shows I am sure most of our minds would be completely blown. Of course with Dana “Blow your mind” doesn’t always equate to blowing your mind either. Say they announced the WEC was going to do a show in Hong Kong or Rio, It’s news but not exactly something mind blowing. It could mean a WEC season of TUF which would be good but not “mind blowing” either, until he actually makes the announcement it’s all just fluff.
wasn’t one of his huge announcements something like an office in canada?
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Oct 2, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, and his news that would change the MMA world turned out to be Lorenzo Fertitta was going to work full time for Zuffa instead of just doing Zuffa stuff part time. Dana promotes announcements the same way he promotes fights.
This announcement is going to be a stand up war.
by Superstitiousmma on Oct 2, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It's gonna be fuckin' FIREWORKS!
Melvin Guillard will be out in just a minute to share it with you.
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If a merger is in the plan, don't expect it till after the furthest out WEC card.
However, with the inclusion of all the UFC on Versus shows…. this could be a way around that contract? I have no idea and its just speculation, if anyone knows if that would work or not input would be great.
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by BloodbathAndBeyond on Oct 2, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
believe it when i see it
Whatever happens all I’m really hoping for is that
1. Lower weight guys get paid more
2. More and better cards.
honestly it's not my place to be campaigning for fighter salaries
i am very interested in point #2 however
i suppose that better pay is a means to more/better cards, but whatev
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Dana White's mind blowing announcement
I had a really bleeping nice poop this morning. I will now take your bleeping questions.
Simple answer to the Versus deal
offer them UFC currently untelevised undercards as a replacement.
The fact of the matter
is that merging the WEC into the UFC wouldn’t just all of a sudden create interest for lackluster cards. Do you see the viewership numbers for the WEC cards on Versus? People who think that Aldo-Gamburyan headlining UFC 119 would have helped the buyrate aren’t looking at the numbers. The fact is, nobody knows who these guys are. They put on great fights full of excitement, sure, but no one sees it happen. Fight fans and the casual consumer would much rather watch bigger guys go at it then smaller guys. Outside of BJ Penn, has there ever been a proven draw at 155? So why do we think there would ever be big draws at 145 or 135?
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merging the WEC into the UFC would, all of a sudden, greatly improve the entertainment value of UFC PPVs by giving the UFC the option of moving a meaningless fight like Guillard/Stephens to the untelevised undercard in favor of Cerrone/Varner II and other WEC matchups that have traditionally proved to be quite exciting.
agree with you that Aldo isn’t ready to move straight to the main event of a UFC PPV, but getting him on the card is certainly a step in the right direction and benefits the UFC, Aldo, and the fans.
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Let's face it (and I am for the merger)
Under no circumstances would WEC guys not competing for a title be on the main card ahead of Guillard/Stephens (which was more meaningful than you made it out to be).
Cantwell/Stann III was on the prelims of a Fight Night.
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Cantwell/Stann I and II were boring ass fights between two low-end (at the time) LHWs. compare Steve Cantwell to a main-card LHW like Machida. yeah, it belonged on the prelims, if on the card at all.
Guillard/Stephens and Varner/Cerrone are both matchups between middle-of-the-road lightweights. with regards to skill level and potential to build a future star in the UFC, i’d say the bouts are about even. some say Guillard has the tools to be great, but i think that is demonstrably false if you look at his fights.
Varner/Cerrone I was a pretty great fight – based on this and the hot personal feud, i’d put Varner/Cerrone on a card above Guillard/Stephens.
your assertion that “under no circumstances would WEC guys not competing for a title… etc” is not necessarily correct.
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Does main card necessarily mean top 3 in weight class?
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It would take a while for the UFC to build the names of these guys and I’m not entirely sure fans would accept the smaller guys fighting in the UFC. Maybe they would but the best sellers in history have traditionally been the bigger guys. The hardcore fans would like it but remember, the hardcores don’t make up the large portion of the audience and it’s never a good idea to build your business towards them because, by definition, they will always be there. You’ve got to go after the casuals. Faber is easy to market but outside of that I’m not sure they have anybody in the WEC that could truly become a star.
They would add entertainment to PPV’s but they wouldn’t sell them. So cards like UFC 119 would still sell poorly, even if they had smaller guys putting on amazing fights on the undercard. The main event is what people buy a PPV for.
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perhaps a sequence of events will help
1. jose aldo destroys manny g on PPV after the weak bader/nog fight – people say “wow that was cool, who was that guy”
2. jose aldo destroys john grispi on a PPV co-main – people say “wow that was cool – jose aldo puts on some good fights”
3. sell aldo/penn, edgar, or whoever
you’re right that it takes a special type of star to attract new fans. not everyone is a GSP or Lesnar, so you need to take advantage of their pull by putting a less marketable but more exciting fighter like aldo in the co-main. starmaking 101
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Aldo/Edgar superfight....
Really???? So just b/c Edgar is champ it would be a superfight? If Aldo fought Edgar or Maynard it would be Aldo getting taken down at will and getting dog humped. Another UFC LW snoozer.
Maynard might be able to take him down if he could get his hands on him. Don’t underestimate the speed and elusiveness of Aldo. If you think that Edgar would take him down and lay on him then you haven’t watched either of them fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 2, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
to me
superfight means a matchup between champions in two different weight classes.
if it isn’t champions, then it’s not a superfight
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To me its more than that.
Not only are they Champions, but dominant ones that have largely cleared out their divisions or at least stand head and shoulders above anyone else in that division.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Anything less than Superman versus Mister Mxyzptlk
is NOT a superfight
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And can we get a definitive ruling on what "lay and pray" actually means?
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The biggest Aldo superfight there is...
Is one between him and BJ. I don’t care if BJ’s coming off a loss. He’s still the guy I want to see fight Jose.
Since Aldo had all but done the same in the 155 division
Pretty impressive accomplishment to be so good you’ve cleared out a division you’ve never even fought in!
But in all seriousness, as much as I would love to see the top 135 and 145’s in the UFC, I’m not gonna get my hopes up on another one of Dana’s “big announcements”
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by Geno Mrosko on Oct 2, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Derek Suboticki on Oct 2, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea what that means, but I take it it's good news
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Whatever this news implies
I got Aldo KO 1st
Quick check of my sources confirms what I thought...
it’s almost certainly not going to be a merger.
The thing to remember here is that the question is brought up out of nowhere and rather than just say “no” and stop people from talking about both brands White simply says “you’ll have to stay tuned”
Just like on a TV show when a gun is fired at the main character at the end of an episode they’re not going to say “Tune in next week to see the main character not die!”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 2, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
So, the announcement is probably just that they’re adding flyweights or something, then?
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I'd be glad with that announcement.
but Aldo, and the other guys still won’t be getting paid just cause of 3 letters.
Hell if they want to keep the 2 brands separate, they could always just call WEC cards ‘UFC: World Extreme Cagefighting 52’ and make it look like a ‘UFC Fight Night 22’ series.
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 2, 2010 11:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Dana forgets that the things that matter to him don't matter as much to us
I’m sure hese announcements always seem really great to him, bigger sponsorships, expanding the business internationally, these are big things if you have some personal stake in the success of the UFC and zuffa. Not so much if you’re just a person who likes to watch fights.
I think he knows we don’t care.But one: he’s talking to the press, not to us. And two: he wants everybody to listen, so everything is “mindblowing”.
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
WTF is wrong with you?
Why all the crying to get the WEC folded into the UFC, Aldo moving up etc. ? It seems like some people just can’t wait to finally pay PPV money to see Jose Aldo. Would I like to see how he does against some UFC guys? Sure. But [expletive] it – let BJ & Co. come to the WEC for another one-time-PPV or whatever. Let him fight Cerrone and Varner and Benson (all three of these would be [epletive expletive ex-fucking-pletive]).
Yeah, I know: y’all dying to see Aldo & co. make some good money. Well…go and petition for better pay of undercard- and women-fighters first please and let’s keep the WEC-awesomeness as it is for as long as possible, yes? Pretty please? :)
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
I love free shit, and aldo for free is amazing. I think what gets to me is that I buy these cards regardless of quality. Sometimes I get moneys worth, other times I don’t. I am not the type who gets angry when I see a fight like cro cop/mir, because style make fights, sometimes guys just don’t get off, etc. However my hope is that by folding the wec in creates a higher potential for exciting fights in the current ppv structure rather than an excuse to have more ppv’s and a higher potential for ufc 119 fight cards.
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by crinow on Oct 2, 2010 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The UFC will make more money putting on more cards with the addition of the WEC weight-classes than they would gain by adding them to their current rotation of cards and thereby increasing quality. So, IMO, that will not happen.
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
I hate when my cable bill arrives after a 2 pay per view month.
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by crinow on Oct 2, 2010 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think if aldo goes staight into a fight with the ufc 155 champ it would be stupid
If anything he should fight ben henderson and the wec champ before he even moves to the ufc
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I’ve heard Lorenzo will be joining the ufc on a full time basis to work on international expansion. Now THAT would blow all of our minds.
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by crinow on Oct 2, 2010 6:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I for one can’t wait to lose all the excellent MMA on free TV! How dare they put these great shows on Versus when they could position the top WEC fights as PPV filler?
by Jonathan Snowden on Oct 2, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
Jonathan Snowden
Poster boy for suppressing the wages of MMA fighters everywhere, the ones he mercilessly uses to promote his books.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Oct 2, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
The Poster Boy for Suppressing Fighter Wages
Fighters are worth what they can negotiate. No more, no less. I certainly don’t have much influence on that.
by Jonathan Snowden on Oct 2, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there is the flipside to suppressing wages that everyone always seems to ignore/gloss over on their zuffa is evil/dumb/moronic/hates babies because they won’t merge the 2 orgs.
A merger is pretty much the death of the WEC, it’s not likely vs (or anyone else) will pay for a feeder league, they definitely won’t pay what they’re currently paying for a feeder league. No WEC means lots of fighters out of jobs. Yes, the top guys will benefit from getting into the UFC and what comes along with it, but no WEC means a lot less fights to go around for everyone else.
by Phildo on Oct 3, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
ADD THESES GUYS TO A FIGHT NIGHT
Jose Aldo
Ben Henderson
Anthony Pettis
Shane Roller
Jamie Varner
Donald Cerrone
Uriyah Faber
Kamal Shalorus
Scott Jorgensen
Chad Mendes
Dominick Cruz
Joseph Benavidez
Mike Brown
Zhang Tie Quan
Mark Hominick
George Roop
Korean Zombie
Miguel Torres
Manny Gamburyan
Takeya Mizugaki
Josh Grispi
MUST I GO ON????
THIS IS WHAT THE UFC NEEDS
UFC < UFC + WEC MERGER
This is what the ufc needs to do. Make the WEC a feeder league as well as a tune up league. Look at the last shark fights card. It was filled with post UFC talent, but it was an intriguing card. That goes to show that just because you can’t make it I the UFC, doesn’t mean that fans do not want to stop seeing theses guys fight. Let them go to the WEC get a tune up, when ready bring them back. This will save Zuffa a lot of money, since they are releasing a lot of guys that other promotions are picking up. I would love to see Jason MacDonald, David Heath, Terry Martin, Tim Sylvia, Jake O’Brien, Tommy Speer, Thales Leites, Paul Buentello, and Keith Jardine.
They can also feed them to up and coming talent feed the ones cut from the UFC to them to build them up, and then bring them to the UFC with footage, name recognition and much more. People like the TUF alumni that could not make it in the UFC due to bring a little green. Plus this means exciting fights and more free mma.
UFC/WeC meger= The shit!!! Moving Aldo to 155 for an Edgar Superfight and leaving the rest of the WEC in the dark=dud of an announcement. If this doesn’t mean a merg, then it don’t mean shit., boo Dana hype.
by Cestus84 on Oct 2, 2010 6:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just don't think that there are any secrets that Dana can keep from the public before they get out some how in this day and age
I remember seeing/hearing him talk about something big happening with the WEC in the next 6 months in an interview a while back. I can’t remember who was interviewing him as I am in MMA overload on a daily basis but it did get me a little excited. I just hope that it is a surprise but it probably won’t be. These things always tend to come out in the media somehow before they are officially announced by the UFC/Dana White.
Until we found out what it is for sure we can contemplate it over and over again.
It would be great to have the top guys from the WEC added to UFC events in my opinion. It would add an excitement boost to the events with the faster lighter weight classes mixed in with the existing UFC weight classes, more championship fights, better paydays for the fighters, and more exposure for the WEC fighters.
We shall see what happens…
This merger talk really is tired because it’s not going to and shouldn’t happen. Whatever Dana’s announcement is has nothing to do with what has been talked about time in and time out on here. Why don’t we just wait for the news instead of going crazy and setting ourselves up for disapointment like usually happens with these things. Because for some reason people really lose their minds and start reaching for announcements whether they make sense or don’t and they never come true.
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This.
Dana has said the EXACT same thing before and people got ruffled up except it was Faber vs Penn, not Aldo vs Edgar.
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by S.C. Michaelson on Oct 2, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
F yea i want a Frank Edgar Jose Aldo Fight
idk how the hell Zuffa would get around all there contracts with Versus and Spike to make this happen, Wouldn’t it be ironic if the UFC and WEC co-promoted a event?
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Those contracts didn't stop them from moving guys...
from the UFC LW division to the WEC LW division. So, unless their is a clause in their contact with Verses that forbids the creation of a FW and BW division in the UFC, I can’t see how they can be stopped. Afterall, I am assuming all the fighter contracts are signed with Zuffa, not the UFC or WEC.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
LOL @ people taking shit Dana says seriously
In fact, this is not the first time he’s said something just like this and nothing came of it.
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Edgar vs Aldo makes no sense,
it would undermine the WEC’s claim to having their own legitimate lightweight champion in Ben Henderson.
I’m personally hoping this announcement would mean a new broadcasting deal with them ditching Versus, even for a premium cable channel like HBO, which there was a post hinting towards earlier.
orrrr
if the UFC adds both weightclasses, they could fight at 145. Problem solved!
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 2, 2010 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That doesn't net Aldo a second belt when he wins.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
and?
It does for frankie. What’s the big deal? If he beats up frankie, then hey, maybe he’s ready to move up in weight.
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 3, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Personal preference...
I’d rather see Aldo have the chance to add his name to that currently 2 man club rather than Frankie.
I like Fedor, it’s just his fans that are intolerable...and his management.
Look...
I think everyone can agree.
That Aldo would run through Edgar.
Literally throw a knee right through his face.
Now the couple of Edgar Fans there are would say that Frankie would pull the Gray Maynard and how the little brazilian down. Or run around the ring for 5 rounds and try to dodge stuff.
Nope. not at all.
I give Aldo 7 to 1 odds. In reality, in a cage.
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by soulrebel5447 on Oct 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
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