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Marloes Coenen receives a hometown hero's welcome - click here for more pictures.

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That’s pretty awesome.

I wish I would be greeted at the airport with flowers and a severed hand.

I could be sitting here with just pee stains on my rug.

by Earl Montclair on Oct 12, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that’s one of Overeems legs playing drums on the left.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by Sam Cupitt on Oct 13, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea thats pretty cool, good photos too

by Genghis_Con on Oct 13, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Very cool. She looks pretty surprised. Hilarious that Mom and Grandma have a bit of a WTF? thing going on. “This shit ain’t ladylike!!!”

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 13, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I am not sure which is greater:

my hetero-crush on Marloes Coenen

or my homo-crush on Bas Ruten

by RightTriangle on Oct 13, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Awwwww

So cute that they think a strikeforce belt means something!

Get rid of the ramp!

by ihateemo on Oct 13, 2010 1:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Exactly. Contrary to popular belief, the Strikeforce 135lb Womens Title actually means something just in the fact that no other MMA organization has that division. Also, Strikeforce is just about the only MMA organization where female fighters can get national television exposure. Moreover, that division actually has some of the best collection of talent in that division that is available like Meisha Tate, Hitomi Akano, Carina Damm, Shayna Baszler, Sarah Kaufman, Roxanne Modaferri, Takayo Hashi, etc. We are only now really starting to see top female fighters fighting each other regularly.

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by chrisbboy82 on Oct 13, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

How often do we see that in America? Barely at all.

Frankie Edgar got a parade when he came home from Abu Dhabi.

by Steve4192 on Oct 13, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're talking about women here.

Men get parades for being champ all the time. Machida did when he won, Shogun did when he won etc.

by ultima0chaotic on Oct 13, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we got one American man and two Brazilians.

How often is that? Did Randy get parades? GSP? Anderson Silva? Forrest Griffin? Rashad? Rampage? Nope.

by Josh Grant on Oct 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes!!!!!

I Won THOUSANDS of dollars!!!! I’m a thousand-aire and the lowest paid champ in history!!!!

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 1:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, because it’s all about the money. It has nothing to do with her being a great competitor fighting in a sport that she loves. She fought a great fight and subbed a woman who had never lost a fight before. I think she has every right to be celebrated, and I’m happy to see her receive such a welcome. There doesn’t always have to be negativity brought into every situation.

by GetYourHeadStomps on Oct 13, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

she should be appreciated and celebrated

That’s the point. I enjoy womens mma but the disparity between her pay and kaufmans and or an unkown male fighter on the untelevised undercard of a fight night is horrid. And I’m sorry. It is about the money. That’s why were employed. No one works for free. 3k is a little insulting for a champ.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 1:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

meisha is adorable! !!

"Even Hulkamania wouldn't get you out of this hold"
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."

by the-gentle-way on Oct 13, 2010 2:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This has been said by people like Jordan Breen on Sherdog and other MMA journalists, but the pay that is shown by the Athletic Commissions is NOT representative of what a fighter is actually paid. Considering that Coenen is an overseas fighter, and this applies to many fighters overseas, there are taxes that they need to pay that U.S. fighters wouldn’t have to. While we may not see a report about it, Marloes most likely was paid under the table so that she doesn’t have to pay these high taxes. The same happened to Mousasi. You may want to ask/email someone in the know about why Coenen was paid as much as she did and how much she most likely did get paid, and not just assume.

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by chrisbboy82 on Oct 13, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

Man everybodys so quick to defend her paycheck when half the time everyone is bitching about fighters pay. I dunno how you can judge me as not being “in the know” and “assuming” since u don’t know me at all but I realize under the table bonuses happen all the time. I’m not stupid. Just on paper as reported its a bit demoralizing to womens mma.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 3:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I apologize for that. Your comment made it seem like you really didn’t know why she was getting paid only 3k, but that was ironically a bad “assumption” on my part.

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by chrisbboy82 on Oct 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you’re accusing Strikeforce and Coenen of tax fraud?

by cmsove on Oct 13, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think tax fraud is illegal.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 8:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

There is nothing illegal about paying foreign fighters a big up-front fee (like a signing bonus) in order to minimize their tax burden on fight night.

by Steve4192 on Oct 13, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought income had to be taxed. Is the bonus not like the tip I give my waitress? She may not claim it and get away with it but it is taxable income. I could be wrong just sounds a little off.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

3k is a little insulting for a champ.

LIVERPUNCH!

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by Steve4192 on Oct 13, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

she reminds me of that actress that is on that show bones.

if i didnt know who marloes was i’d never guess she was a fighter.

by DirtyML on Oct 13, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

wow! i cant believe their are negative comments on this thread.

congrats to Marloes!

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by ekc on Oct 13, 2010 4:38 AM EDT reply actions  

To me it’s hard to believe that someone still find that surprising.

I'm a lover not a fighter

by spectaa on Oct 13, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is the severed arm a reference to her nearly breaking Kaufman’s? Classy.

by medium seen on Oct 13, 2010 5:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Srsly? This is what you’re commenting on?

by outcircuit on Oct 13, 2010 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect it’s more to do with the common BJJ/sub grappling expression that you “take your opponent’s arm home” when you submit them by armlock – breaking the arm or not has nothing to do with it.

"With gold thou boughtest Gýmir's daughter,
and so gavest away thy sword:
but when Muspell's sons through the dark forest ride,
thou, unhappy, wilt not have wherewith to fight."
~ Lokasenna

by VenusBlue on Oct 13, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool, that’s nice of her team and friends to acknowledge her achievement like that! Good pictures, I’d recommend you check out that link as there were more pictures than posted in the thread here.

by Horselover Fat on Oct 13, 2010 5:58 AM EDT reply actions  

People compete in the Olympics for free. It’s not about the money. She’s at the top of the 135lb ladies division. I say that’s a pretty major accomplishment.

Did you see the size of that chicken?

by Heenan on Oct 13, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know that strikeforce is comparable to the olympics. The glory of winning on a world stage is much greater than winning in front of a small hardcore base of mma fans on a premium cable channel.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s the biggest stage in the world for what she does, so yeah, it’s comparable.

by JRN on Oct 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm done......

I feel myself getting dumber

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t be naïve. People in the olympics get paid. Sponsorships wheaties boxes advertising etc. I don’t believe olympians do it for the money but they do get paid.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

As a one time high level amateur athlete

I can absolutely guaruntee that the vast majority of Olympians get by on just enough money to buy food and pay for training; only a tiny minority get good sponsorship deals.

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Oct 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow a guy named drunken cutman is an ex-olympian hopeful? That’s awesome. I’m not saying they’re rich. But if midcard ufc guys get let’s say 10 to 20k by sponsors for a fight on ppv with 500k buys you’re saying an olympian performing on network tv for a few days in interviews etc in front of a worldwide audience gets less? Proof please. I need to see it. I can admit I’m wrong. Just show me.

by ronrod on Oct 13, 2010 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have fenced for Britain

But knew would never get close to OLympic success, so quit.

I do know a good few guys who made it, and a lot of them really struggled financially, even during their peaks.

you’re saying an olympian performing on network tv for a few days in interviews etc in front of a worldwide audience gets less?

Most Olympic sports have very strict non – sponsorship rules. Do you see any ads on Phelps’ speedos, or on Hoy’s cycle shorts? So, where then is this money coming from?
Even if there was event – based sponsorship money, that would come to one decent pay day every four years, not exactly enough to live off.

The rest of the funding comes from Government grants and governing body support, which usually doesn’t amount to much of anything. A very small, and priveleged few, who have exceptional talent, can make huge money from ads. People like Bolt, for example.
However, the guys coming in 2nd and below usually just scrape by.

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Oct 14, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find her quite attractive.

by TLow on Oct 13, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Word.

the Rooster! the Rider! a Man on the Rooster! the Rider of the Apocalypse!

by dancingChicken on Oct 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double word

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Oct 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool

Love Overeem’s sweater! Awesome that they came out to show her love and support.

Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before. -Mae West

by marta_gallo on Oct 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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