Josh Gross tweets that Frankie Edgar, not Gray Maynard, is the possible contender to BJ Penn's crown in April.
[UPDATE] - "Edgar's management said nothing was done, and Maynard's performance could determine opponent. I'm hearing it's Edgar regardless."
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It doesn't matter who it is
it will still end the same way:
by fozo on Jan 7, 2010 1:20 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
couldn’t agree more.. i’d be pissed if they gave it to edgar if maynard beats diaz. i honestly don’t understand why diaz and maynard are fighting….
by cagefightonacid on Jan 7, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
because diaz already beat maynard and will again
by mr. gogoplata on Jan 7, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
uhhh, exhibitions from tuf don’t count on anybody’s record….
by cagefightonacid on Jan 7, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
i figured it was joe silva’s way of seeing where maynard’s submission defense game is at, before he throws him in with penn. plus, the whole rematch angle.
ok, i can get down this that explanation
by cagefightonacid on Jan 7, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like Maynard, and I am a big fan of Frankie Edgar, but if Maynard beats Diaz, I feel that Maynard deserves to fight Penn more than Edgar would. However, Penn is saying that he wants to fight in Abu Dhabi in March, and I have to wonder that it being January right now and Maynard fighting very soon that from January to March would be too quick of a turnaround for Maynard. Preparing for a fighter the caliber of Penn would take a lot of time (and Maynard could have a medical suspension or an injury from his fight against Diaz), so in that respect, I can see why the UFC would do Penn vs Edgar first.
Sounds good to me
For the most part, Frankie fights, wins and is entertaining.
And for the most part, Gray fights and wins.
If Maynard wins on Monday night, then jumping Edgar over him for the title shot is an utterly indefensible maneuver. It’s not like Edgar is some huge Lesnar-like draw, and the match is set for Abu Dhabi, not New Jersey. Those would be the only logical reasons for Edgar to leapfrog an undefeated fighter WHO BEAT HIM, and even those wouldn’t be tremendously valid given the circumstances.
In fact, I would argue that you could make more of a story out of Maynard/Penn, what with the whole TUF “student rises up to challenge the teacher” angle.
Past, boring performances stick with you, unfortunately
Just ask Okami (Before he was decisively thrown out of contention by Sonnen). He and Maynard even have similar personalities (I.E. Boring).
Ask Fitch also
It took Fitch eight straight wins in the UFC to get a shot at GSP. Also, it took him a while just to get his fights on the main card. Maynard seems to be able to finish other Lightweights on the feet especially with his size and power, but for some reason, he hasn’t been able to.
Dissapointing
I have trouble possibly conceiving a Edgar victory over Penn. At least with a monster like Maynard arguments could be made. Frankies gonna be just another bloody victim.
just 'cause you pour syrup on shit, don't make it pancakes
Why would Edgar be the top contender? It should be Maynard. He beat Edgar.
Also Maynard is Undefeated and. I think its ridicules that Diaz gets a fight with Maynard after being beaten twice and then winning against Gulliard. Come on. Thats ridicules.
maynard beat edgar but diaz beat maynard
and edgar only lost 1 decision
while maynard got choked out
by mr. gogoplata on Jan 7, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Edgar
has better boxing and if you think maynard trying to wrestle penn wont get him submitted your kidding yourself.
I think his Tramp Stamp is causing Gray Maynard some visa problems in Abu Dhabi
by CaptnAmerca on Jan 7, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
How Maynard gets jumped in line is beyond me..
He is a very similar fighter to Edgar, except much, much bigger come fight time. Both have good boxing, whether people like to admit that about Maynard or not, and both are superior wrestlers.
Also, anyone who brings up Maynard getting sub’d by Diaz needs to remember that fight happened when Maynard was only training for a little over a year, and only had 2 professional fights. He now holds wins over Roger Huerta, Jim Miller, FRANKIE EDGAR, and Rich Clementi…
I have no problem with Edgar getting the shot if Maynard loses to Diaz. However if Maynard wins, it would be somewhat difficult to justify giving the shot to Edgar instead, especially considering Maynard already has a convincing victory over Edgar. That said, I do think Edgar would make for a more interesting opponent for Penn, which may be all the justification the ufc needs.
Make Maynard fight Joe Daddy first
if he can beat joe he will be ready, despite beating edgar via decision i believe edgar has been beating higher caliber fighters including ex-lightweight champ S.Sherk.
Bear in mind that this all hinges on all three fighters remaining healthy:
If Maynard stops Diaz, he will fight Penn.
If Maynard goes to a decision with Diaz, Joe Silva will have to make a judgment call.
If you find yourself nodding off during that fight, it’s probably a good indication that Edgar will fight Penn.
This is the word from Dave Meltzer, more or less.
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I’m comfortable with either. People that are streaming tears over this seemed less up-in-arms about Gomi potentially fighting BJ next. Peculiar stuff..
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Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Thats because the penn vs maynard/edgar fight is not that intriguing either way. gomi on the other hand would be pretty wacky.
just 'cause you pour syrup on shit, don't make it pancakes
by imnotjohnlong on Jan 7, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
How about Maynard vs Edgar II for the next title shot? Sounds fair, unless Nate pulls off the upset….
With all there champions possibly being gone in a bit.. ie the spiders contract runs out and he retires, gsp goes to wrestling, brock is gone, BJ will be one of the only superstars left. If the UFC thinks that May-nards can beat him they will give him an easier fight first. Or it just might be they think May-Nards will try to Gaynard dryhump a win.
Waaaaaay too much hypothetical action going on here. Any one of those things is possible, two is plausible, three is totally unlikely, and trust me when I say the UFC has no “fear” that Maynard would go over on BJ. Edgar has the better striking and they have a relatively equal (though small) chance against him.
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Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
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