Dana White and James Toney meet behind closed doors:
Dana: "So you know how to check kicks and you know how to do all that?" (at the 3:45 min mark)
Toney: "Yeah, front kick, back kick, side check kick, all that."
Dana: "Umm....."
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i wouldnt call that a camera man… more like dude with iphone 3g
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by ekc on Jan 6, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think Dana knew they were recording.
by snakecharmer1340 on Jan 6, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Kimbo vs Toney soon to be announced! :p
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Won't happen.
Kimbo is too valuable to the UFC to put him in there with a killer like Toney. They’ll pit him against a BJJ or Wrestler with good kicks to shut him up. Once he feels those kicks smashing into his thighs….OWWWW!!!! He’ll be ready to run out of the Octagon…but not until he gets gnp’d then submitted. Give him the full treatment….lol
is this really gonna happen?
i mean dana brought royce gracie back which is arguably similar since it was a washed up fighter skilled at one martial art but who would he have toney fight? hes sayin heavyweight and roy nelson jumps to mind but im kinda lost as to who he should fight
Royce had accomplished a lot in the UFC before that though. Regardless of when, he was a MMA pioneer, which Toney is not.
yea but toney acomplished alot in boxing and early mma and current mma are basically completely different sports
Except boxing is really a different sport than MMA or old MMA (ask Art Jimmerson).
"You hit too hard, too hard, too hard..."
true i said arguably similar not the same thing toney is a great boxer and royce was a great bjj practitioner both of them were skilled in one martial art and royce had big holes in the rest of his game and we can assume toney does as well
all im saying is its similar in the sense that dana could be bringing aother former great in his respective martial art to come in and get smashed in the ufc
Royce had shown an ability to handle grapplers and strikers in Vale Tudo while Toney has not. He can handle punching. If he can show that he’s been trained for and capable of handling kicks, elbows, knees, grappling and submissions then I’m happy to see him in the UFC. Otherwise I think he belongs in Strikeforce or Japan.
by asa on Jan 6, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
i thought about laying off the caps and only using 3 exclamation marks, but i figured… screw it :)
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jan 6, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Good call
Anderson would get that boxing debut he’s been craving without breaking contract or prematurely retiring, and Toney will get annihilated. Win-win. MicahW for President.
He'd have to "box" at HW though,
cause Toney won’t even try trimming that belly to get to 205.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 6, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?, I really want to know why Dana is interested in him lol. No doubt if it happens, It’ll be Toney vs Kimbo. Or if he wants someone to really fuck him up in MMA then I can see Roy.
i think Kimbo would get killed by Toney. Toney is slow now days, but i think Kimbo has more of a loose brawler style of striking, not a more crisp “sweet science” like Toney has. (but that is not to say MMA strikers couldn’t hang with boxers, im not saying that)
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I really want to know why Dana is interested in him
2 reasons as far as I can tell. I can only imagine that DW is truly a James Toney fan. And the other reason for talking with Toney is so he’ll stop heckling Dana in public.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jan 6, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
3 if you count the CSAC incident
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I get why he's interested
It would be a fascinating and possibly lucrative fight. And perhaps he’s such a big James Toney fan that it adds to his willingness. But he lays it out there straight: it needs to be a CREDIBLE fight if he’s going to make it happen. And from the interview you can tell he’s trying REALLY hard to give this guy a chance, but can’t commit so long as Toney keeps ducking grappling questions and displaying a huge misunderstanding of kickboxing.
This is what I wonder: why doesn’t Dana white watch one of Toney’s MMA sparring sessions? If Toney can’t articulate his capability in MMA using the linguistic conventions of the sport, he won’t HAVE to articulate them if he shows what he can do in the gym.
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
Well, his dad is one of the original death fighters. Did you expect any less?
by Tedd Welch on Jan 6, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that's a croat kick
not a czech kick
by some schmuck in texas on Jan 6, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I foresee 300+ comments on this thread
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
It’s not a thread
It’s a post.
This isn’t a messageboard. It’s a blog.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
by Orcus on Jan 6, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jan 6, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I say that everyone calling it a thread should be perma-banned.
But to keep this thread on topic, I hope the UFC doesn’t do this, unless they’re planning on doing a show in Japan in the coming year. In that case, I’d like to see BJ Penn v. Toney.
by cmsove on Jan 6, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
now you’ve done it. BJ Penn’s brother will no doubt find your comment, show it to BJ. BJ will get excited and start begging DW for this fight… then it’ll sell 1 million PPV’s because lets be honest, we’re all a little curious who would win that fight. lol
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
cmsove, you need to follow your own advice.
“I say that everyone calling it a thread should be perma-banned.
But to keep this thread on topic…"
>>> Bye, Bye.
Remember when some people say that the length of the tie corelates to the length of your.......
:P
…seriously though, side check kick?? He sounds real honest…
I was just gonna mention that
Like, how short is Toney’s tie? He looks like one of those “sad clown” paintings.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
Excluding Tim Sylvia, Of Course
When it comes to James Toney, I think it’ll go alot like Ray Mercers’ fights outside of boxing. Musashi and Remy Bonjasky made him look awful in striking and Kimbo Slice beat him on the ground. Let’s let that sink in. Kimbo beat him on the ground.
Toney, if Dana White actually goes through with this, is going to have a really bad first time in the Octagon. He doesn’t sound like he’s pursuing any mixed martial arts training and I don’t think White will dredge up a striker with a non-existent ground game for him.
Slice vs. Toney keeps getting thrown around here, but I think White has other plans for Slice. Gilbert Yvel, if he hasn’t been cut yet, is the most likely candidate.
I keep trying to get excited for this. I mean, I crapped my pants for just about every round of the Super Hulk Tournament. I love me a freakshow. But James Toneys’ attitude and knowledge of the sport are really turning me off. I’ll tune in, yes…but only to watch him get take apart.
Yvel would crush Kimbo, I don’t think they’ll do that to Kimbo, I think they want to keep Kimbo as long as possible. Toney just seems like a great fight for Kimbo, and with a win it would raise his stocks a lot in front of casuals.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Whoops
I left a sentence out in there. I meant to imply that it’d be Toney vs. Yvel.
Though I agree, it would be a bad night for Kimbo to fight Gilbert.
ah
yeah, but I think Yvel would also crush Toney and not gain much with it, whereas Kimbo would gain a lot more. But that’s just me :p
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
to be honest
the only reason I want to see him inside the octagon is if they put him against Kimbo. I don’t like the idea if they are thinking about giving him legit HW’s.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
JDS hasn’t graduated to full blown contender yet, they could still put Santos vs Toney… that’s still intriguing.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Bring back Houston Alexander and let Toney fight him. He’ll be the first opponent that Alexander has ever faced that has a ground game worse than his. Plus he’s completely expendable.
Ground game worse than his.. Hah, that’s what they were saying about kimbo
by kanodogg on Jan 6, 2010 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pointless
To bring this guy in. And he called everyone who dares take the fight to the ground a lil fag. So whoever they put him in there with is gonna take him down and shut him up. Which then leads to a point for the mma side of the mma vs boxing legendary arguement. Then everyone will realize that the point is completely irrelevant because its what we already knew. Mma guys beat boxing guys when it hits the mat
Get 4-0'd. <---- If you dont know what im talking about its time for you to play more Modern Warfare 2
by II SMASH II on Jan 6, 2010 2:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dana needs to do this right away so James can stfu already, let him embarass himself.
Btw, wtf is a back kick
by kanodogg on Jan 6, 2010 2:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think the bigger issue was the "side check kick."
some people (mistakenly?) call turning back kick’s as back kicks, so that’s forgivable… but side check kick? dang!
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 6, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
he's so advanced in his death fighting MMA skills,
that he already has moves invented that we don’t even know about.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 6, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
After some googling...
I guess a side check kick looks like this ?
Anyone who fights him is fucked, because he can fight both ways: Punching and kicking!
that's not a side check kick.. a side check, isn't a kick. It's a check.
Turn your lower body sidelong so your right shoulder is angled toward your opponent. Lift your right leg out to the side, blocking your opponent’s advance. Keep the foot raised above knee height and directly within your opponent’s path, the flat of your foot facing him. This is the side check. It effectively prevents your opponent from direct attacks; he will need to perform a spin kick to get around it.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 6, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
He probably meant side kick check…but damn I’ve had a good laugh when i’ve heard him saying it…
by dancingChicken on Jan 6, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure but I bet Jon Jones has used it in a fight at least once.
by ufc4 on Jan 6, 2010 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
UFC 125: Cemetery
Main Card:
Mirko Cro Cop vs James Toney
Coleman vs Anderson Silva
Tito Oriz vs Anderson Silva [Doubleheader]
Rickson Gracie vs Fedor Emelienenko
Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.
by CC11 on Jan 6, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I couldn't care less how many freakshow fights they put on the card,
as long as Fedor get’s signed before UFC 125. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 6, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
while we’re at it
bob sapp vs kimbo
bj penn vs brock
big nog vs lil nog
hong man choi vs brian bowles
butterbean vs some random guy in the crowd
by milk72 on Jan 6, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And the winner to face...EGG NOG!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
(okay, I have alot of free time on my hands…lol)
no shit eh
i dun care if there’s only 1 legit fight if we can get fedor vs ……………………… BROCKLESNAR!
Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.
btw the URL of this post is disturbing
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/1/6/1236876/video-of-dana-whites-private#comments
Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.
by CC11 on Jan 6, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
you've successfully killed two jokes in this post
congrats….
If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal
I’m not as against this as most people are. The guy is definitely past his prime but he can still punch better than anybody in the UFC’s heavyweight division. He will probably get his ass kicked, but lets not act like he wouldn’t pose any threat to whoever he fights.
Go Leafs and Bruins!
James Toney vs. Seth Petruzelli...
Seth can do his patented KO-punch-while-running-away-like-a-scared-cat maneuver.
Yeah..
Cause Dana is gonna let any washed out boxer come into the UFC looking to make a quick buck.
"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"
Toney via Cracked Skull
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
More Cheese
You can see how uncomfortable Dana is the whole time.
Dana is sitting at a table, in a meeting with them, and suggests they " have a phone call".
What a genius business man.
jiMMAy
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