Georges St-Pierre Talks Dan Hardy and 2012 Summer Olympics
by Nick Thomas on Jan 4, 2010 9:02 AM EST
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"It’s easy to talk. It’s going to be a different story when he gets into the Octagon with me. He never fought a guy like me before. A lot of people underestimate him, but I'm not going to do that mistake. I'm training harder than I even trained before. I'm better than I've ever been. I want to win and I want to win in a spectacular way".On 2012 Summer Olympics:
"I haven't took my decision yet. I'm not sure if I'm going to do it or not. It has to be in a couple months before the summer. There are a lot of things I need to think about. Right now my wrestling is not good enough to do it, as it is right now. So it’s not an easy thing to consider".HT: mmafighting.com
"It's pretty hard. You need to be a champion in your country. Then once you're champion you need to qualify for the Olympics. It's something really hard. ...It's a thought in my head but everyone is making a big deal about it".
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Ariel Helwani is the best MMA interviewer (or whatever you call that) out there I think.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
For sure.
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I'm partial to Dave Farra
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he's really good too.
but he doesn’t get as much exclusives as Ariel though, so I place him at a close second.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 4, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Where can I get one of those calendars?
It’s for a friend! I swear! :-)
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At the risk of sounding fruity
He has the coolest body, minus the wavy abs. His logo is silly too.
SO HUGGABLE!
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six to midnight
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That would be pretty cool if GSP won the 2012 olympics in wrestling. I wonder how good his wrestling is compared to the guys who do it 24/7.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Having seen him training with the top Canadian guys...
…very good.
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him going to the olympics would be great publicity for him, the ufc and mma in general. He doesnt really need to win. Just to have a good performance.
Yeah, but him being off for a year and a half from fighting...
…would be terrible business for him the UFC and MMA in general.
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He’s already a fairly infrequent fighter. He’s worth more taking a year and a half off for the olympics than he is if he has another loss or two like the one to Serra. The UFC has enough stars, what they need is embassadors. An athelete leaving the UFC for the Olympics adds a huge level of legitimacy to the sport, maybe even the potential of amatuer MMA
by Beyondadrenalin on Jan 4, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
What? No.
Infrequent? He fights a little less than 3 fights a year, which when you factor in injuries and being at the top of the food chain, is actually pretty good.
So for a year and a half off, you’re expecting him to give up about 4 fights. He made $400K at UFC 100, so that’s well over one and a half MILLION dollars in salary that HE’D be giving up, not to mention how much he’d make in sponsorship money for each fight.
And that’s not considering how much Dana loses in that scenario – conservatively $100 million. I cannot imagine him letting GSP get away with that.
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But just imagine...
BJ Penn rules over the welterweight division for a year, his iron fist a purge upon the land. And from a far away land returns the once and future king, prepared to reclaim his throne…
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by Anthony Pace on Jan 4, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did you make that up...
Or steal it from a movie?
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
Rickson Gracie
I wasn’t thinking of anything in particular, just every epic tale from the past 500 years
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Oooooh.
Okay, I’m swayed by your dreamy prose.
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he should just go ahead and say fuck it and do it
if its his dream then go for it. he has his black belt in bjj, kyokushin, and the welterweight title. if he leaves and wins at the olympics then comes back and takes the middleweight title, he has definitely secured his legacy. not to mention a shitload of sponsorship money from major sponsors like Nike.
by SilverNBlackZach! on Jan 4, 2010 11:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree 100%
As opposed to the selfish fans who are all like “I dunno, I’d rather he stick around in the sport I watch” or “He should go. It’ll look good for MMA, which is a sport I watch and therefore would make me look good”.
it would be awesome if he did well in the olympics
and then came back to the UFC with some awesome olympic highlight reel. the ufc would make up for lost time by promoting the return of the olympic champ to the UFC. it would do gigantic numbers.
by SilverNBlackZach! on Jan 4, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
That particular fighter becomes a little richer
That’s pretty much it. I remember when everyone was gushing about when Gatorade sponsored GSP and what it meant for MMA. Nothing has changed since.
Good point, I don't think every person they sponsor is getting Jordan money.
I’m pretty sure they probably pay in terms of return on investment, just like every other sponsor.
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Sure, but Gatorade is only big in America, I’ve never even seen it in Europe.
Nike, however, is huge everywhere. And I’m sure that it would lure other big clothing companies to sponsoring fighters.
kawajiri is sponsored by nike, but im not sure just how famous he is in japan.
but hes gotta be up there having all those swooshes on his shorts.
by SilverNBlackZach! on Jan 4, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
actually nike is pretty good at going after small markets.
They make ultra limited sneaker runs, for example http://sneakermaniac.com/nike-made-for-skate-blazer-sb/
24 pairs sold wordwide
so the obviously can totally sponsor an athlete even if he’s only marginally famous, the same way they do with artists and so… if they want to
well there you have it
Nike sponsors fuckin SUPERSTARS!!!!!!!
by SilverNBlackZach! on Jan 4, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
GSP by later stoppage via GNP. Hardy’s improving left hook he likes to counter with won’t stop GSP just like Alves arsenal of wrecking power didn’t stop him. Period.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions
No problem with GSP going Olympic at all. Very noble thing to do to walk away from millions of dollars to compete with the best in the world at something that they have been doing since they learned how to walk. As opposed to some who walk away from MMA to make easy money doing shitty movies (cough… Rampage…Le… cough).
Keep firing Assholes!
It’s as if you fell down a flight of stairs, then logged onto the internet.
by Ubernoober on Jan 4, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Looks like GSP is wearing something from joe rogan’s closet
by nastyem on Jan 4, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
A lot of people underestimate him, but I’m not going to do that mistake. I’m training harder than I even trained before. I’m better than I’ve ever been.
A lot of people say this sort of stuff, but with GSP, I believe him. Hardy is going to get fucked up.
I love me some Sexyama!
Didn't he say the same things about Serra?
Cause I think he did….
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These mma fighters really need someone to check them and their priorities, I would hate for GSP the model of what an mma fighter should be. To go down the road of others who have ruined their mma careers trying to chase other dreams hopefully someone will get to him before he does something stupid to ruin his career.
I wouldn't phrase it that way, but I agree.
You know when you see an actor talking about how music is his real love and he’s going to take some time off to tour with his band and you think, “you’re a respected actor making good money and good movies. Put down the fucking guitar you arrogant prick, and stop thinking that being good at one thing automatically makes you good at everything. You don’t see me telling my boss that I’d like her to keep my job around for me while I spend a year pursuing my first love of snail husbandry, do you? No. Now go read some scripts, you moron.”
Or is that just me?
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If that’s his dream and he is in the position where he can try to pursue it, who are we to say he shouldn’t? If anything, I think we, as MMA fans, should be supportive of one of the top guys in our sport reaching out and trying to achieve. Sure, I’ll miss seeing GSP dominate the other WWs in the octagon, but that’ll just make his return even sweeter.
But if you are stupid, you will be beaten with a stick - Proverbs 10:13
Is there an echo in here?
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
Rickson Gracie
I'll say.
And to answer both of your questions: “We” are the people who have bought the T-shirts and the PPVs and the calendars that made him the kind of money that allow him to dream about living off his savings and playing around at being an amateur wrestler.
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True.
But, that was our choice and we got what we paid for. We don’t own his life forever b/c of a few T-shirts. Follow yours dreams, I say. Even competing in the Olympics is a huge honor.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
Rickson Gracie
And it's far from a sure thing.
I mean, in my analogy, this is like having an actor say that he’s going to take some time off and compete for a Grammy. Sure, it’s an honor just to be nominated, but who’s to say that he would be?
But I mean, are you going to go to the Canadian national wrestling championships to support him? Are you going to keep buying GSP Silver Star T-shirts? I’m not.
Also: if Georges loves the fans as much as he says he does, he might care a teensy bit about what they think. Maybe. Kinda. [I doubt it.]
(And does he have to declare amateur status?)
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Jamie Foxx raises his hand and gives you the finger. Triple threat ftmfw
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For every Jamie Foxx
…there’s Kevin Bacon, Don Johnson, Keanu Reeves, Bruce Willis, Eddie Murphy, Bill Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton, Russel Crowe, Steven Seagal, and Sylvester Stallone stinking up the airwaves.
Or more importantly, a Mickey Rourke trying to be a boxer.
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But then there’s Mariah Carey in Precious, Will Smith in everything, Frank Sinatra, Barbara Streisand.
I have no point, I’m just being argumentative
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Oh, that's clear. :-)
But you get my point: 9 times out of 10 when people follow their NEW dream (the one they had AFTER their original dream that brought them fame and fortune), they waste their best years chasing something stupid.
(Clearly Will Smith doesn’t belong in any discussion like this: the man is so outstanding at so many things that he’s clearly some kind of mutant robot alien from the future. Or something,)
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BURN
for putting that in my ears.
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Your example is very poor.
Being an actor and being a musician are much farther apart in terms of similarity than wrestling and MMA.
Considering wrestling is a part of the MMA whole (and the fact that GSP is very good at it) I very much doubt GSP would be the Eddie Murphy of MMA-Wrestling.
As well, the people who don’t want GSP to wrestle at the olympics seem to forget that many MMA fighters (Fedor, Werdum, Overeem etc) compete in other martial arts competitions and no one complains about that (with the exception of perhaps Overeem).
At least an actor who wants to play music...
…can at least fall back on the excuse that they’ve been musicians all their life. George didn’t start actual wrestling outside of MMA until fairly recently. So yeah, you can quibble all you like, but there’s a central part there that you can’t argue with: he’s not a wrestler and his sudden infatuation with wrestling is no reason to run off and do something he’s actually successful at.
And you’re ignoring that Fedor doesn’t take off for a year and a half to play Sambo.
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Sounds like it's close to contract negotions time for GSP
This seems like a pretty good ploy…“I’ll walk away, believe me, I have thought of other options. I have G, I don’t need UFC.” Something along those lines anyways.
Championship clause will take care of that, GSP ain’t going anywhere and if he does he’ll still be under contract with Zuffa after he fails to make the Olympics.
Not so sure about that....
The championship clause keeps him from getting paid by anyone else to fight. It can’t compel him to fight or keep him from participating in amateur competitions. See Couture, Randy.
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