"I'm here. We can do this. I was waiting for [Dana White] to give me a call and quit dodging me," Toney told Ariel Helwani from AOL FanHouse. "This will be the biggest fight ever, period. The biggest event."
"Of all the guys they've tried to bring [over] from boxing, either guy who were shot or too old. James Toney is the real deal," White told Rogers SportsNet's Joe Ferraro. "He's a nasty, mean dude. We're going to sit down and talk tonight."
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So 41 isn’t too old? Please, the last thing MMA needs is a spectacle like this on the sport’s biggest stage.
to be fair, he isn't THAT shot yet...
he is the IBA Heavyweight champ… (it’s no Ring belt, but still a title)
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 3, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
dude...
he is fucking SHOOOOT.
1 minute and my post will be up on SBNation.com explaining why and I can go into details here
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
well I guess that's why they (or I personally) say
that we are just Manny fans, and not Boxing fans.. I don’t know much about the other guys who aren’t remotely close to Manny’s division.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 3, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
what?
James Tomey is a washed up boxer with an eating disorder; seriously, he’s a mess. DW should not be entertaining this at all.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
x1000
And he has a history of steroid usage too…
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jan 3, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
I’d be shocked if it wasn’t so that he’d have a guy of decent recent name value come over from boxing and get crushed.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Mistype there...
“I wouldn’t be shocked if it wasn’t so that he’d have a guy of decent recent name value come over from boxing and get crushed.”
is what that was supposed to say
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s what I was thinking too. Sign the guy, book a big PPV, let him get mauled and then cut him and point out how poorly a boxer did in MMA.
That possibility certainly does exist. And any boxer in smaller gloves with their technique present a very real KO threat. However, Mercer was always a huge puncher. Toney, not so much. But yeah, he still could sleep a guy in light gloves.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
kimbo vs toney
is a win win…. one of them is going to get knocked out, just like houston vs kimbo. wait a sec…
by cagefightonacid on Jan 3, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well obviously you wouldn’t bring back superheavyweight Tim Sylvia to fight him. You would feed him to someone who would obviously just go in and take him out or someone where the loss wouldn’t hurt the company that much(say Kimbo?).
I’d imagine if they want to keep him around and get him a win or two they’ll put him in with Kimbo. If they want to get him out of there they’ll put him in with someone real.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I hope that’s the theory. Otherwise I’ll be sarcastically awaiting Toney/Slice.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Jan 3, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
This out of shape nutcase?
No, just no.
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
toneys both too shot and too old
dana was just bein nice cause toney was right in front of him
Comma needed.
For the love of god, comma needed.
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by pdl on Jan 3, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
big deal whateverrrrrrrr ok what are commas
by cagefightonacid on Jan 3, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was joking
because when I first read that, I actually read it as “Let me eat Dana.” As in, Todd Duffee is a cannibal who wants to feast on the flesh of his fight promoter. Changed the meaning a bit. Like how punctuation and capitalization make a huge difference in “I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.”
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by pdl on Jan 3, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no i get you were joking… i usually don’t forget punctuation but i do help my uncle jack off a horse from time to time.
by cagefightonacid on Jan 4, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Since 2006 Toney has:
- Fought to an awful draw with the awful Hasim Rahman in one of the worst fights I’ve ever seen.
- Been outpointed by Sam Peter twice despite Peter not exactly being the kind of boxer that would have ever outpointed Toney in the past.
- Won a split decision over Danny Batchelder who was riding high on a 1-3 streak coming into the fight and has lost 2 more fights since the loss. Many boxing reporters had him losing the fight. After the fight Toney tested positive for steroids for the second time (the first was in 2005 against John Ruiz).
- Had a no contest due to cutting Hasim Rahman with a headbutt early in the fight.
- Won a split decision over Fres Oquendo that many (including SB Nation’s Bad Left Hook) had Toney losing by a wide margin.
- Was hurt by 12-5 Matthew Greer in his last fight before stopping him.
- From my piece on this over at SBNation.com
If Dana is going to tell me THAT guy isn’t shot? …eeeeeh.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 11:58 AM EST reply actions
yup,
that says it, I really don’t know my boxing. hahaha. (except for the guys Manny has faced or has a chance of facing..)
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 3, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Throw him in there with someone like Ken Shamrock.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Throw him in there with Mir, Carwin or even Lesnar, clown him out, collect your PPV earnings and send him home.
You seem to be under the impression Toney is a PPV draw- he’s not- or that he has some sort of following- he doesn’t.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jan 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I am under no impression of that at all I just know that if the UFC promoted “Boxer vs MMA fighter” then the casual fans would open up their wallets. Particularly if they put boxer X against someone who could draw like Mir or Lesnar (or best of all Kimbo). You can replace Toney with any aging washed up boxer in that situation, it’s what he does not who he is that would catch casual fan attention.
toney vs kimbo
that would guarantee to do huge ppv numbers. it would be a fuckin shitshow thats for sure but id still watch.
by SilverNBlackZach! on Jan 3, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Charity
For sh*ts and giggles, have Toney v Anderson Silva and the proceeds of the card go towards a charity (or Toney’s hospital bill, anyone’s choice)
Dana: Hey Mr Silva I know we never came through with Roy Jones jr fight for you but I’ve got the fat washed up boxer that wants a UFC fight that you can have…..Anderson……hello? I think he hung up on me.
by who me on Jan 3, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The sad part is
that RJJ is more washed up than Toney.
They’re both way past prime but to say that about RJJ is unfair. His last two losses were to Danny Green and Joe Clazhage, his last win was Jeff Lacy… Toney hasn’t fought anyone near that level in since about 2005.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jan 3, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
he weighed 217 for the Greer fight
If he could get to 205 he’d be somewhat in-shape and I’d like a fight with James Irvin
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
He looked slow and got hurt by Greer who is a punching bag at best.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 3, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
not saying that didn't happen, lol
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
He’s been working with a boxing coach but it hasn’t done much good.
by ufc4 on Jan 3, 2010 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No MMA fighter
can stand with a good boxer. But the cool thing about mma is its not boxing and you dont have to stand. Boxers win boxing matches, mma fighters win mma matches. If you box in a cage the boxer wins. This is stupid.
Not so much.
Under MMA rules Muay thai pwns boxing. If Toney can’t check a leg kick he’d get destroyed. Ask Rampage.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
Rickson Gracie
Dont read too much into this.
Dana is just trying to get this off his nuts. This guy wont leave him alone.
by snakecharmer1340 on Jan 3, 2010 6:58 PM EST reply actions
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