Thoughts on the Future Coming Out of UFC 108
by Michael Rome on Jan 3, 2010 12:34 PM EST
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UFC 108 delivered a lot of quick and exciting finishes before falling a bit flat in the main event. There are plenty of recaps around, so let's focus on what's next.
For Rashad Evans, Rampage Jackson is up next, and I'm told it's tentatively scheduled for UFC 114 in Las Vegas over Memorial Day weekend. It will be a monster fight, and I think they intend to bring back UFC: Primetime to build it. Whereas many were writing Jackson off just a few weeks ago, there's a renewed and surging view that Jackson has the tools to finish Rashad. Thiago Silva's inability to finish Rashad saved the UFC millions of dollars in 2010.
I don't think Thiago Silva will get hurt too badly as a result of this loss. He made it exciting in the third round, and I think it makes sense to match him up against Rich Franklin in May or June. Another option is a fight with the winner of Brandon Vera vs. Jon Jones.
Paul Daley got a huge win tonight, and made himself a pretty big "bad guy" star with his shotgun antics after the fight. Note to fighters that want to make money in this business: don't apologize for being a lunatic, that is what sells, and if you sell you make money. Dana suggested matching Daley up against Fitch or Koscheck, which would be a very serious test of Daley's claim that he's improved his takedown defense since his fight with Jake Shields. Personally, I'd rather see him fight Thiago Alves. That would be pure fireworks and a hell of a fun fight.
The only other fighter really worth discussing coming off of this card is Junior Dos Santos, who put Gilbert Yvel away fairly easily. The next test for him should be the winner of Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Cain Velasquez, but Dos Santos won't fight Nogueira. If Cain wins that is the best match possible, but if Nogueira wins perhaps they could match Dos Santos up with his original opponent for UFC 108, Gabriel Gonzaga.
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Rampage has once again become a hero for the foolish MMA masses despite him being the real a-hole between the two.
I could honestly give a shit about what goes on outside of the Octagon. Last night, Rashad was an a-hole inside the octagon.
by Polyh3dron on Jan 3, 2010 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he looks like Dave Attell
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Rampage vs Rashad should be epic. I hope it lives up to all the hype that the UFC builds.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jan 3, 2010 11:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Fitch/Alves are already scheduled for a rematch, which means Daley will get Koscheck assuming Koscheck’s injury isn’t that bad. Terrible, terrible matchup for Daley fans; I see Koscheck finishing that fight in a hurry.
Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
by lowellthehammer on Jan 3, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions
Five knuckles says this might be for UFC 113, not 114… He didn’t mention anything about sources though, just that Dana said it was for May (which hosts both 113 and 114)..
As reported yesterday, UFC President Dana White said that the fight would “probably” happen in March. However, he has since stated that the organization is leaning towards UFC 113 in Montreal, Canada, which would take place on the first day of the month.
“We’re thinking maybe, probably May,” White said. “That’s going to be a sick card up there.”
Joe Rogan on the UG:
I was most surprised that Dustin chose to stand with Daley.
That was just bizarre. Dos Santos is a bad motherfucker, and we’ve never even seen him on the ground. I would really like to see how he does with a powerful wrestler.
Sam Stout looked awesome, as did Jim Miller. It was a fun fucking card
.
we need to see him
fight someone who will take the fight to the ground before the put him in the cage with someone like brock.
They should have Rampage and Rashad on the next season of TUF to build up this fight even more!
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by Bandaka on Jan 3, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
After two seasons of seeing Rampage suck as a coach and having his guys lose would anyone want to be on his team? I guess that really could lead to an interesting reality show.
TUF Season 12 – Success Despite Rampage.
Each episode, one fighter gets coached by Rampage – including having to stand any and all verbal abuse Rampage decides is funny and/or appropriate. At the end of the episode, the contestant fights against a reject from previous TUF seasons (there’s plenty of those to go around). He has to follow Rampage’s instructions during the entire match. Winners of the matches get contracts to appear in the Final.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jan 3, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
daley vs rumble
would be an epic war but prob wont happen cause they’re tryin to build these 2 up for title shots
If by epic war you mean someone would get their head knocked off in the first two minutes
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
Epic. War.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
The whole "The sky is falling" for the UFC
is much to do about nothing, if what I saw in the bar last night was any indication. The bar was packed, and most anyone I talked to couldn’t name a single fighter on the card. They were just there to see GOOD FIGHTS, which, if the screaming was any indication, the UFC delivered. IDK if any of these people would put money down for a PPV at there house, but they were most definitely there to watch UFC, not contenders vying for a title shot, a fighter making a comeback, hot prospects on the rise… they were there to see good fights.
If the UFC has some sort of deal where they get a % of the bar receipts for businesses playing their events, “weak” PPV #s (especially considering that they’re only weak compared to previous monster UFCs) really don’t mean all that much at all.
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jan 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions
To counter anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence, my dad was at a BWW here in the Chicagoland area and it wasn’t packed at all. And most of the crowd paid more attention to the Blackhawks game. BWW’s are usually PACKED in this area for a fight.
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I was at a bar in Hollywood and the crowd was much smaller than most UFC fights. Even less than UFC 106 or the Affliction fights! But this was, of course in Hollywood were half the people have left town during holidays. So it’s anecdotal with a caveat.
by John Nash on Jan 3, 2010 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Were you at big wang’s? Logan was there.
by Polyh3dron on Jan 3, 2010 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No. The Happy Ending. And that place sucks except for when they have fights on.
by John Nash on Jan 3, 2010 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hmm I never thought of going there. Do they charge cover, because big wang’s doesn’t.
by Polyh3dron on Jan 3, 2010 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No cover, but your whole party has to be there to be seated and they don’t take reservations. I usually get there in time for the Spike broadcast.
by John Nash on Jan 3, 2010 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also, the college football kinda took priority at most bars including the aforementioned.
by Polyh3dron on Jan 3, 2010 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You should have seen it 10-15 years ago. Then it was a shithole. Straight out of Vice Squad.
It was awesome.
by John Nash on Jan 3, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
touche
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
-SC
by The Lethal Haze on Jan 3, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
The moment Werdum raped him of his manhood.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
by FlyByKnight on Jan 3, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And before people say Couture instead of Werdum, it was Werdum who really sent Gonzaga packing.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
I thought it was when Herring quit. Someone had to fill his shoes.
Did you see the size of that chicken?
Could be that too. Poor Herring. The man who could not realize when a fighter was finished and let him stand back up.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
So, Sam Stout getting his 2 nd straight fight of the night isn’t worth talking about? He’d be a good first opponent for Gomi, don’t you think?
by Polyh3dron on Jan 3, 2010 1:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
depends how you look at it....
I think it would be a great fight to watch but it may not be the best fight for Gomi if they are going to try and hype him to the casual fanbase.
Yvel vs Buentello
Dos Santos vs Cain if he beats Nog/ loser of Carwin vs Mir or Gonzaga.
Thiago Silva vs the loser of Bones vs Vera or Bader if he beats Jardine.
Rashad vs Rampage.
Ellenburger vs Marcus Davis/Saunders
Munoz vs Quarry/Gouveia/Dollaway.
Cole Miller vs Etim/Pearson.
Kampmann vs Ellenberger
Jim Miller vs Stout/Guida
Daley vs KOS.(or maybe A Johnson before KOS.
Uhh...
There is zero chance of JDS fighting Big Nog. Zero. Purge the thought.
Besides, if Big Nog wins that fight vs Cain, it would be criminal to not give him the next title shot.
Stop disrespecting the Nog.
I specializes in grammar fail.
Never mind. I can’t read.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Jan 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Okay
I had to work early this morning so I recorded the PPV part of the fights while the group I usually watch it with went to a sports bar to watch it. I woke up to a text from one of them saying the Silva/Evans fight was fixed. Went to church and another one of the group was saying the same thing and he explained what had happened. Well, what I saw is nothing like how he explained it and I can’t see how anybody thought that it was fixed. He said the whole bar was saying it was fixed and I told him none of the blogs were saying anything about it. He said he knows that and was disappointed with that. I watched the fight and saw Silva get gassed out and not be able to finish Rashad. What do you guys think?
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I thought about that
the same way I think about mating horses and narwhals to create unicorns. It pops into my head, then I realize I’m an idiot and need to quit sniffing glue.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
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by pdl on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
When someone is saying that the fights are fixed the best way to deal with them is to send them off on a tangentally more stupid conspiracy theory.
Guy: These fights are fixed.
You: Yah well that’s what the Lizad Illuminati Pope wanted you to think when he built the pyramids with Napoleon in 1807.
Guy: Your conspiracy theory is way more stupid than mine. I must know more.
Keep firing Assholes!
It’s as if you fell down a flight of stairs, then logged onto the internet.
by Ubernoober on Jan 3, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wait… they weren’t built in 1807?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
That depends how you define the year 1807.
Keep firing Assholes!
It’s as if you fell down a flight of stairs, then logged onto the internet.
by Ubernoober on Jan 3, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO!
That was some funny shiz right there.
You are right about sending them off on a more stupid conspiracy theory. I think they were suffering from a mob mentality and some of the brown bottle wisdom.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I never
Would have thought that it was fixed. Never popped into my mind.
The horse and narwahl idea is AWESOME! WE can’t mate them obviously but maybe, just maybe, we can splice some genes together and create a unicorn. Have to figure this out.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
At least someone appreciates it!
I was talking to my then, now ex, girlfriend about it at a sandwich shop. She called me a dumbass and said I’m too embarrassing to be around in public. Crazy.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Jan 3, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Women
Who needs em? Oh yeah, me!
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Im glad it was a good night of fights
However i would have been just as entertained by all the wannabe know it all fight fans flexing their “knowledge” on thier poor, dead behind the eyes girlfriends. It was sad on so may levels. Im glad my girlfriend just sits there and makes homo-erotic comments and giggles everytime someone throws a superman punch.
"Talk all the shit you want now!
my girl fell asleep...
but even though she’s pretty casual as a fan she grasps a lot of it well… Things like arm bars, triangles, rnc/guillotine chokes… She asks me why fighters don’t throw more body shots, and ask why the fans are booing. Its awesome. lol. She knows a lot of the fighters too….
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
I don’t think Daley deserves that sort of upper-echelon fight yet. Rumble/Daley is a much better alternative.
"He's taking more hits than Nick Diaz's bong." - The Voice
In the words of Rampage
There gon be some more black on black crime!
"Talk all the shit you want now!
by Earl Montclair on Jan 3, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
They’re going to need lots of new challengers when the WW division blows wide open when GSP goes off to the Olympics.
Keep firing Assholes!
It’s as if you fell down a flight of stairs, then logged onto the internet.
The glorious chaos that would result is the main reason I am for GSP giving the olympics a go.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Jan 3, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would love for him to head off for the Olympics and return to the UFC albeit in the MW division.
by Tap or Snap Radio on Jan 3, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
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