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USAT/SBN January MMA Consensus Rankings: Heavyweight

Rank Fighter % Promotion Last Rank
1 Fedor Emelianenko 100 M-1 Global/Strikeforce 1
2 Brock Lesnar 96 UFC 2
3 Frank Mir 90 UFC 4
4 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 88 UFC 3
5 Junior dos Santos 77 UFC 5
6 Cain Velasquez 74 UFC 6
7 Brett Rogers 69 Strikeforce 9
8 Shane Carwin 66 UFC 8
9 Josh Barnett 61 WVR 7
10 Alistair Overeem 56 K-1/DREAM/Strikeforce 10
10 Fabricio Werdum 56 Strikeforce 11
12 Andrei Arlovski 46 ??? 12
13 Gabriel Gonzaga 26 UFC 13
14 Jeff Monson 24 Free Agent 14
15 Antonio Silva 22 WVR/Strikeforce 16
15 Ben Rothwell 22 UFC 19
17 Randy Couture 21 UFC 17
18 Tim Sylvia 20 Adrenaline 15
19 Sergei Kharitonov 20 DREAM 33
20 Ray Mercer 20 Adrenaline 23
21 Semmy Schilt 19 K-1 23
22 Aleksander Emelianenko 19 ProFC 26
23 Pedro Rizzo 19 Free Agent 20
23 Stefan Struve 19 UFC NR
25 Roy Nelson 18 UFC 25
25 Muhammed Lawal 18 Strikeforce 29

Rankings compiled by Richard Wade.

The biggest story by far in the heavyweight ranks over the last 90 days has been the health of  UFC Heavyweight champion #2 Brock Lesnar. After last week's announcement, we can rest easy that the Minnesotan will be back in action this summer.  He's expected to face the winner of #3 Frank Mir and #8 Shane Carwin's UFC 111interim title match. But Dana White has promised fans that if the winner of that fight is injured and can't make the date with Lesnar, that the winner of UFC 110's bout between #4 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and #6 Cain Velasquez

As if that wasn't enough action and intrigue, MMA's pre-eminent promotion will also treat us to #5 Junior Dos Santos vs #13 Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC on Versus in March. If Dana White can get right with the voodoo gods or whoever jinxed his Fall and Winter of 2009, he appears to have an incredible series of heavyweight title fights on the horizon.

As for #1 Fedor Emelianenko, he's expected to face #10 Fabricio Werdum at Strikeforce's second CBS show in April. Werdum is no slouch, but it's clear that the UFC champ will be facing a much tougher slate of challengers in the next year than Fedor -- who isn't even Strikeforce's champion. That title belongs to the man tied with Werdum for #10 Alistair Overeem. The champ claims he'll be ready to defend his belt against Fedor in May or June. We'll see what happens.

Meanwhile, rumors continue to swirl that Strikeforce is in talks with #9 Josh Barnett, the owner of the most damaged brand in MMA. If they can sign Barnett,  that will be one more credible opponent for Fedor.

NOTE: What the hell is Ray Mercer doing in the rankings?!?!

For those of you who are not familiar with how we do the consensus rankings: we do not add any subjective opinion to the rankings. Instead they are a compilation and averaging of the top 20 or so most credible and popular online ranking sites. The goal is not to create an subjective ranking of who is the best fighter but rather to objectively document which fighters are considered to be the best by the online community.

Ray Mercer sneaks into our top 25 because he is ranked at #13 by FightMatrix.com a computer-based objective rankings system. They assign points to fighters strictly based on the rankings of the opponents those fighters have beaten. When Ray Mercer beat Tim Sylvia, Sylvia was ranked in the top 13. By FightMatrix' protocols that caused Mercer to leapfrog above Sylvia even as Sylvia dropped.

Because most of our ranking sites stop at the top 10, those sites that rank the full top 25 have an outsized influence on the lower end of our rankings, ergo Mercer sneaks into our top 25. It doesn't mean we think he's the 25th best heavyweight in the world, it means that he beat a highly regarded fighter in Tim Sylvia and that caused some fairly influential members of the MMA community to consider him a top heavyweight.

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Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings.

We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.

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Can anybody rationally explain what Cain has accomplished

to deserve being ranked above Barnett and Werdum?

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by pdl on Jan 28, 2010 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

If 'roids gets you lower rankings

then why are Marquardt and Vitor so high at MW?

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by pdl on Jan 29, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he hasn't been active either.

And doesn’t seem like anyone’s picking him up out here in the states until he’s cleared.

"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson

by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

But Vitor hasn’t fought at middleweight since the exact same event that Barnett last fought at. They have both tested positive for PEDs and have also been equally active in their divisions.

Either way, my point is that people hating on Barnett is dropping him while the Cain hype from the UFC and AKA is being eaten up by everyone. Beating Yvel and beating Kongo were similar accomplishments at the time they happened. Barnett also beat ranked competition in Rizzo and Monson in his current streak. Not to mention he actually has a history of beating solid opponents. Aside from Cro-Cop, who totally has his number, he’s beaten every fighter he’s faced. Cain has Kongo and Rothwell… and Rothwell’s ranking magically improved via UFC bump.

I’m not saying Barnett should be top 10 or top 5. Just pointing out how Cain’s ranking is being inflated by his potential and an epic hype train. If he has a good showing and beats Nog, I’ll drop the issue. Until then, wtf is up with his ranking?

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by pdl on Jan 29, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I completely agree, we will find out if Cain is more hype than substance at 110.

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by keyboardwarrior on Jan 29, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Well in Cain's defense...

He’s fighting NOG! If he loses a decision and or gives Nog a good fight you really can’t take much away from him.

"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson

by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah that is my point.

"For some reason Dana White doesn't like me, and I don't care enough to find out why. So he can go pound sand up his ass as far as I'm concerned."

Don Frye

by keyboardwarrior on Jan 29, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we can take away

all the extra credit that’s been given to him. There’s no shame in losing to Nog, and if Cain was ranked around 10-15 then I wouldn’t drop him at all for the loss. But he’s not fringe top 5 fighter yet, and losing his zero should collapse his tower of hype. He’s a wrestler who can outwork and punish strikers on the mat, but he’s never fought a strong ground fighter, anybody with a solid sprawl, and his chin is questionable after the Kongo fight.

If he convincingly beats Nog, then he’ll answer a lot of questions and pretty much shut me up. I’d still like to see a fight against a well credentialed wrestler afterwards, but I’ll give him all due credit for a big win once he has one.

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by pdl on Jan 29, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson

by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll post this as soon as new HW rankings come out too. It's my dinner.

"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Feb 22, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you on the Rothwell and Vitor part for sure.

"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson

by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the Cain hype train, but recently failing a drug test and not being active in ANY division is kinda a unique circumstance.

by SES 84 on Jan 29, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Kongo is unranked now? Eh, I guess.

Don’t quite get it. Not a big deal, anyway.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Jan 28, 2010 2:55 AM EST reply actions  

There’s some strange sites who are ranking in this system. The same thing happened to Cro Cop after the UFC 103 loss but I’d back he and Kongo to beat several fighters who are currently in the top 25.

by rabrown on Jan 28, 2010 6:58 AM EST up reply actions  

And why doesn't a guy like Heath Herring show up on this list somewhere?

I mean I realize he’s taking an “acting” break and he’s no world beater, but he did take Brock to a decision (after breaking his orbital in the opening seconds) and, in my mind, he could definitely take out a bunch of fighters on that list, and would likely give everyone from 6th down a really tough fight.

by Canucklehead. on Jan 29, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys often get dropped due to inactivity.

Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
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by Richard Wade on Jan 29, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose Ray Mercer did technically “fight” Tim Sylvia last year. Hard to even write that without vomiting a just little bit.
I wonder if Kung fell off the middle weight list during his last “break”?

by Canucklehead. on Jan 29, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Who ranked Semmy, even though he hasn't fought since NYE 2008?

Sure, he’s a great kickboxer, but ranked in MMA?

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by themachiavellian on Jan 29, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Probably the same sites that are ranking Overeem in the top 10 despite the fact he hasn’t beat anyone decent in MMA in ages.

by BilboMcFonzie on Jan 29, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Fight Magazine.

Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate

by Richard Wade on Jan 29, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

So Yvel murders #23, gets KO’d by number #5…

Mercer?

"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson

by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Andre Glassjawski whipped Werdum, at least during the brief moments of the fight when Werdum wasn’t flopping on his back, yet is ranked higher?

And Couture is 4 spots behing Gonzaga? Gonzaga has one lucky shot on CroCop, and other than that it’s been either cans or losses for GG.

And if Ray fucking Mercer is ranked then Kimbo should be as well, by virtue of kicking Mercer’s ass.

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by P-Dub on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Recent record is going to take priority in most rankings to older head to head meetings which is why sites have Werdum higher. Arlovski is on a multi-fight losing streak now so it’s hard to rank him higher than Werdum who is coming off a win over a credible opponent.

Couture probably lost some standing at HW because he has dropped to LHW and many sites will only rank you in one weight class (that being your most recent).

And as for Mercer…well…nate summed that up in the actual text pretty well

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 29, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t think Mercer will be beating any more major heavyweights, so he should drop down in time…

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by pud333 on Jan 29, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of the fighters in 11-25 are a good reason these lists should be kept to just top ten.

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey

by JeremyShane on Jan 29, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

as you move down the list

Rankings are going to become more diverse and Random, but its still useful to quickly say how people stack up.

by SES 84 on Jan 29, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm, i suppose; i just don’t think they stack up very well far down on the list, it’s a wide gap from one to another sometimes

but sometimes i guess you see that jump in the top ten as well

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey

by JeremyShane on Jan 29, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheick Congo?

How is he not ranked? I know he’s coming off two losses but come on he’s definitely better than Ray Mercer. These rankings are about as accurate as the preseason college football rankings.

by Propst01 on Jan 29, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

How is he not ranked? I know he’s coming off two losses

You just answered your own question.

Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate

by Richard Wade on Jan 29, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

So is Arlovski.

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by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Kongo didn’t lose to Fedor Emelianenko.

Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate

by Richard Wade on Jan 29, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But he lost to #5 and #3 so that takes him completely off the rankings? yet Mercer is on there.

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by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

#6 not 5

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by poundnground on Jan 29, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

these lists pretty much prove how useless they are

you don’t need to be a good fighter; just a better fighter than whoever you fight, even if they are cans

these lists should tell who is the better fighter as much as possible, not who has the better record; we can figure that out without a list

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey

by JeremyShane on Jan 29, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Best part about ranking Ray Mercer is that he’s not even ranked ahead of the guy he beat, but is ranked ahead of a few guys who would be heavy favorites against him. Also, King Mo should only be ranked at moneyweight, his natural fighting weight of somewhere between 205 and 265.

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by lowellthehammer on Jan 29, 2010 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

If and When Brock wins both fights against winners of Mir/Carwin and Nog/Cain he will have beat two guys in the upper top 10. Fedor will face two guys at the lower end top 10. So by numbers Brock could secure 1st place by the end of 2010. Thats if those who make the rankings can live with them selves dropping the great one where he would belong att #2

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by pitbull187 on Jan 29, 2010 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

no, Fedor would have to lose in order to blemish his god-hood and even then who knows…

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey

by JeremyShane on Jan 29, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He is number #1, until somebody actually beats him he should be #1. Its not like he is inactive, losing or fighting total nobodies. Arlovski, Sylvia, Rogers and Werdum are top 10 fighters.

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by vivero on Jan 29, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Arlovski Sylvia and Werdum are all questionable top 10 guys at this point. Brock has a lot more top guys to face and if and when he fights and wins sooner or later people will have to move him above Fedor. Fedor isnt inactive but id say a champion facing top competition after face competition will deserve the #1 spot over Fedor.

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by pitbull187 on Jan 29, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Fedor deserves #1... for the moment.

Let’s be honest, though: many more questions have developed about Arlovski SINCE the Fedor fight than existed before it. There were rumblings after he struggled with Roy Nelson, sure, but no one was complaining when he used some kind of damn video-game combination to put Rothwell out. I remember people actually picking him to beat Fedor because he had the power, speed and technique to frustrate Fedor, keep the fight outside, and take Fedor out of his element. And it was working, until for some inexplicable reason, he decided to hurl himself chin-first at Fedor’s fist. That takes nothing away from Fedor, of course, but the combination of that and then the Rogers KO really changed how people are looking at Arlovski. When the Fedor-Arlovski fight happened, Arlovski was seen as a very legitimate top-10 and a threat, and rightly so.

You could make a similar though less impressibe case for Sylvia. He lost to Couture, sure, but lots of people do. He also lost to Nog, but beat the living hell out of him for three rounds first and was (much like Arlovski pre-flying face attack) actually winning the fight against a guy who is still seen as one of the best ever. Not many people expected him to win, but at the time very people expected him to lose in less than a minute. Since then, he’s looked terrible, had the run-in with Mr. Mercer, and so on, but at the time of the fight, he was also looked at as a legitimate top-10 fighter.

The problem isn’t that Fedor hasn’t been fighting ranked contenders lately. Though that criticism was accurate when he was fighting Zulu and Choi, his last three wins have been pretty significant. The problem now is that he’s almost out of those guys AGAIN – in part because the best talent is either in the UFC or dispersed across a bunch of organizations across the globe – and will be back to fighting scrubs or doing rematches after the next 1-2 fights. Werdum is… pretty sketchy as an opponent, Barnett likely isn’t happening now (or ever, or until long after it’s relevant), Horse Meat is as elusive as Machida used to be, and then…. who? There will come a time when Fedor is back to fighting cans, and we can all see it coming, and that makes me wonder more than anything else what Fedor will do then. Probably smash some cans, allowing us all to go back to making “Don’t get Zulu’d!” jokes, rather than making compromises to fight people on his level….

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by AJB on Jan 30, 2010 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think instead of rankings we should have tiers… it would be less divisive and still produce more meaningful numbers. Of course, we couldn’t control the total number of fighters, but there could be equivalent tiers across divisions (say, the UFC’s Welterweight 3rd Tier = Strikeforce’s Welterwight 1st Tier.). Say, 5 tiers a division? I guess this is what Joe Silva does (and well), but keeping fights in tiers or close would make a clearer progression to a title shot.

Anyway, it’s not that easy, but it’s an idea.

by verloc on Jan 29, 2010 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

I have always been a fan of tiers.

Guillotine.

by iiowyn on Jan 29, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t that what Fightlines tries to do?

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by AJB on Jan 30, 2010 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

wow you got ray mercer ranked in the top 25 and george sotiropoulos ranked as a welterweight and not as a lightweight

by drano on Jan 30, 2010 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

No, “they” don’t have anyone ranked anywhere. Some random internet sites do, and they have to include them in the polling. Which site was the one that kept listing GSP outside the top-10 because of his loss to Serra…? Yeah, there’s idiots out there.

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by AJB on Jan 30, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

wow, you can’t read.

by Phildo on Jan 30, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

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