Gegard Mousasi, "King Mo" Lawal Create Difficult Decisions for Strikeforce
Strikeforce has some difficult decisions ahead of them, and the recent incident regarding Bobby Lashley's opponent in Florida for the January 30th Strikeforce: Miami event isn't going to be their biggest hurdle this year. Scott Coker and company will have their hands full in trying to figure out who Dan Henderson will fight after Jake Shields, when Alistair Overeem will actually defend his title, and how they will push Fedor Emelianenko into the hearts of millions. Stressful is the word that comes to mind.
One of the most difficult decisions that Strikeforce will need to make in the upcoming year is who Gegard Mousasi and Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal will battle next. Rumors have been swirling that Strikeforce may actually pit the two fighters against one another on the next CBS event, but Lawal has stated that he hasn't spoken to Strikeforce yet about his next opponent. Fedor is rumored to be fighting sometime before May, and it's likely that Strikeforce will lump Gegard Mousasi onto the same card due to his contract and management team/co-promotion sponsor M-1 Global. That doesn't leave a significant amount of time to weigh the pros and cons.
But I'll try to help out Scott Coker in any way I can. After all, he's created a Melvin Manhoef vs. Robbie Lawler showdown that I have been hoping to see for the last two years. I might as well offer some wisdom:
Scenario 1: Strikeforce schedules Gegard Mousasi vs. "King Mo" Lawal: I'm not a fan of this match-up actually happening this soon. It might be intriguing if Mousasi tries to gain weight and take on Lawal at heavyweight, but his thirty-one career fights in comparison to Lawal's six career bouts doesn't inspire confidence in a Lawal victory.
Lawal's striking would likely be so overly deficient in comparison to Mousasi's stand-up that it would become a fight heavily reliant on Lawal's outstanding wrestling ability. While I think he has the power and ground and pound to be menacing for Mousasi, I think there are better opponents out there for Lawal right now that could provide a test to those perceived areas of excellence and his weaknesses.
The only real upside is that Strikeforce can, for lack of a better term, blow their load on this superfight now, and then rebuild the loser back up with featured fights while the winner takes on other talent. The problem is that Mousasi really has noone else to fight unless Dan Henderson moves up in weight after the Jake Shields bout.
Scenario 2: Strikeforce finds alternative opponents for both fighters, features them on CBS as a build-up fight: I'd rather see this idea put into play as the best option for Strikeforce. The only catch is that they must allow Lawal's personality to be seen by the casual fanbase by showing King Mo's eccentric entrances. Most of his fights have been at heavyweight, so I'd like to see Lawal put into a difficult match-up with a light heavyweight who has some speed to strike and potentially deal with his wrestling ability.
Jeff Monson has mentioned dropping to 205 pounds, and I think he's legitimately a safe fight unless Lawal gets lazy. Renato "Babalu" Sobral is also an interesting step-up in competition, and I actually think that's almost a perfect notch up the food chain for him. Strikeforce might not be able to secure those fights, and we could see some sort of heavyweight tilt with someone like Kharitonov or whoever else they can dig up, which would be a bit disappointing.
The only big problem with this scenario is that Mousasi would have slim options. Would they bring in the winner of Prangley/Amousouu? Could they negotiate for Arona to step into the Strikeforce cage? Does Antwain Britt deserve a shot? I know what you're thinking... I'm not excited about those names. This leads me to the third option
Scenario 3: Mousasi waits for Henderson, Lawal battles it out for contention in the meantime: I'm definitely not opposed to this third scenario. It somewhat assumes Henderson will defeat Shields without being hurt too significantly as his victory would give him some more springboard as a drawing power for Strikeforce, but technically -- Strikeforce could push the whole "Henderson is really a light heavyweight" angle if Shields somehow beats him. In any case, Mousasi sits on the shelf, battles it out in K-1 for half the year while some of the other stars get their glory on national television in the Spring.
Lawal fights somebody who is a legitimate opponent at either heavyweight or light heavyweight, preferably light heavyweight, and Mousasi takes on Henderson in a summer or fall CBS showdown. If Strikeforce was smart, they'd book Lawal twice, getting him solid experience against good competition and ultimately proving he's the consensus #2 in the light heavyweight division.
These are just a few of the scenarios that Coker could roll with when it comes to deciding on who both men will fight, or if they'll fight each other. But it surely won't be an easy decision. Most fans are under the impression that it would be too early for Lawal to take on such a talent as Gegard Mousasi, and I would tend to agree with that assessment.
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it's too bad they don't have a deeper roster
the guys i think would be good challenges for Mo are guys like Bablalu and Feijao who both need tune up fights themselves.
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Not a bad option.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
kyle REALLY surprised me against werdum
by Austin Martin on Jan 21, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was more of a reflection of Werdum having absolutely no respect for Kyle’s ground game.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Well
I’m willing to bet Werdum didn’t take anything for granted after what Kyle did to his countryman Feijao.
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Mo vs. Feijao would be okay, but Feijao is proving to be a guy who can get straight muscled. I like Mo vs. Babalu personally, but I think Nate is right. I think Babalu needs a tune-up.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t think he’s under contract to SF anymore. He tried out for TUF 11.
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While I am not big on Strikeforce getting a lot of UFC castoffs, there are light heavyweights out there like Tim Boetsch and Wilson Gouveia (he said he’s going back up to 205) that could potentially be given a relatively easy fight and then fight Mousasi or Lawal.
Well
Wilson is scheduled for a fight in MFC, and is clearly under contract (and wants to work his way back into the UFC), but Boetsch would be a great signing for SF and an excellent opponent for either Gegard or Mo.
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Therein lies the problem
When you don’t have the necessary competition to really keep anyone compelled. Its sad really because these guys are eating away their prime years fighting once or twice a year when they should be at double that pace.
I’ve been advocating number 3 for awhile. Let Mousasi go try boxing this spring and then bring him back to face Mo Lawal (hopefully) this fall. I would book King Mo against Babalu or Jeff Monson, and Rafael Cavalcante gets Cyrille Diabate or Babalu. Then you could pair the two off while Hendo and Mousasi square off with the winner getting a shot at the belt.
Never seen a guy get the melatonin beat out of him.
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by lowellthehammer on Jan 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
…melanin. Knew I should’ve checked before posting.
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by lowellthehammer on Jan 21, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Don't worry
It still makes sense.
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So now we are supposed to wait
until late summer at least for the lhw belt to be defended once? Come on Strikeforce.
I like the company but at the same time I want to see belts defended. I dont want another Overeem or Cung Le situation.Get these guys fights for the belts. If you need to do a Mousasi fight on Showtime instead of CBS to make it for the title fine but let’s not shelf the lhw champ.
Matches that need to be done
lw belt: Melendez vs. Aoki
ww: Diaz vs. Whitemare (happening on the 30th, thank god)
mw: Shields vs. Hendo
lhw: Mousasi vs. Lawal
hw: Overeem vs. Fedor
If you want to wait on the last 2 until the fall, ok but I’d still rather see Mousasi defend the lhw title against someone then to go box or do K-1.
It’s purely an opinion poll post. What do you want? I’d prefer to get Lawal some seasoning, but that’s just me.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
I wasnt trying to take shots at you or anything. I just simply dont like the option of Mousasi doing boxing or k-1 instead of defending the lhw title.
Give Mousasi and King Mo opponents and then match up them up in the fall along with Fedor vs. Overeem. Who wouldnt love that card.
I wasn’t either. I was simply asking what’s the best option in your mind. I’m somewhat intrigued by the reasoning behind other people’s opinions on this one. Some come from a point of view that they want the best fights now, some try to be the promoter, and some try to logically think how things will play out to the advantage of Strikeforce in the long run.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not many people like it, as evidenced by all of the Overeem hate, but I’d say it’s highly likely that it happens anyways. Mousasi has already been talking recently about his next fight being in a ring. In the mean time Lawal has his pick from the Strikeforce LHWs, although that doesn’t really amount to much. I think he’d beat all of them fairly handily with the exception of Babalu.
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by lowellthehammer on Jan 21, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
I know he looked real bad for one fight
but Feijao is no joke. When he’s in shape and actually trains, he can mess guys up something fierce. Him and Babalu are the only two LHWs in Strikeforce or DREAM that I would favor over Lawal.
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I'd like...
1. Gegard Mousasi vs. Paulo Filho – LHW Title
2. King Mo vs. Mike Kyle – #1 Contender
1. They’ve had some back and forth to hype this, and based on the SBNation Rankings Filho is the highest ranked behind Hendo, Babalu and Sokoudjou. With Hendo/Shields at MW and Gegard having beaten both Babalu and Sokoudjou that leaves only Filho.
2. King Mo beating an out-of-shape Mike Whitehead shouldn’t earn you a title shot at LHW especially since that fight was at HW. Mike Kyle was said to have been the LHW #1 Contender after TKOing Feijao, this fight would setup the contender, If it’s at LHW.
I like it but here's another option
1. Mousasi vs Filho or (if CBS wont let Paulo on the card) Mousasi vs Jacare at catchweight
2. King Mo vs Bobby Southworth
3 Feijao vs Mike Kyle (give him a chance to wipe it from the records)
4. Babalu vs Antwon Britt
if both King Mo and Feijao win then they get to meet in a number one contenders match (while Mousasi is taking on Hendo), otherwise you have Babalu waiting in the wings to step in for either man if they lost in their first match.
1. Gegard Mousasi vs. Paulo Filho – LHW Title
2. King Mo vs. Mike Kyle – #1 Contender
I agree that this is the best option.
The more I think about Filho v. Mousasi, the more this fight makes perfect sense. There aren’t a lot of great opponents available for Mousasi, but his addiction/personal issues aside, Filho is a dangerous fight for anyone (given his BJJ skill). On top of it making sense from a competition aspect, they’ve already laid the promotional groundwork with their comments.
As others have said, Kyle has been impressive lately and provides a nice step up and a solid test for King Mo. Moreover, as other people have also mentioned in this thread, Feijao and Babalu could probably use tune-up fights and this scenario provides them that opportunity.
WTF happened to Bobby Southworth? He was LHW champ before Babalu, let him fight King Mo. That way it’s a legitimate “next step up the ladder” for Mo
He is actually heavily rumored to be a possible TUF 11 contestant. He tried out and apparently made it past the initial cuts.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
King Mo went to Strikeforce in order to get easier paydays and build experience. He didn’t think it through very well.
Strikeforce doesn’t have the roster depth to give him that. So he will either fight scrubs who give the fans the perception he isn’t testing himself… Or they have to throw him in there with the likes of Mousasi.
Strikeforce doesn’t have a future; their only utility to the fans is as an Affliction-style money mark that features fights between fighters who for some reason or another aren’t in the UFC.
There’s no reason to waste anyone’s time with “build up” fights against C and D-level guys that no one outside of hardcore fans will watch anyway.
Just go hogwild, give us tournaments, superfights and let’s all have fun while it lasts.
by Dlanor A. Knox on Jan 21, 2010 5:15 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
meh, jacare is something they can do at mw for hendo.
Maybe it would be easier if mousasi moved back down to MW, because it will be easier to build something there, especially when compared to 205
Mousasi has said he’s grown out of MW.
by HarmlessNinja on Jan 22, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
" If Strikeforce was smart, they’d book Lawal twice, getting him solid experience against good competition and ultimately proving he’s the consensus #2 in the light heavyweight division."
You mean in Strikeforce not the entire division right?
by ufc4 on Jan 21, 2010 5:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wouldn’t mind those match-ups. Jacare is an interesting fight somewhere in there.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I like it
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Mousasi v Filho sounds nice, and Mo vs Feijao
On the other hand this is Gegards last fight on his contract. Man i hope Zuffa can snag him somehow, but i know the chances of that are slim to none…and slim just left town :(
Dana’s said many times that he wants Mousasi. And Mousasi’s made it clear that he doesn’t give a flying f*ck about Strikeforce belts. Mousasi WILL end up in the UFC as long as he doesn’t say “M1 Global” in front of Dana. At least we can hope, the UFC’s LHW division would get 34% more awesome with Mousasi in it.
by MMAEruption on Jan 22, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody else want Hendo vs. Manhoef, assuming they both win?
I’m so intrigued by that fight. Can Hendo’s granite chin withstand the early onslaught of Manhoef? Will Manhoef blow his wad and then get the Right Hand of Doom?
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Manhoef wouldn’t get a chance to blow his wad because he’d already be on his ass.
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by Rundownloser on Jan 21, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda what I was thinking. Here’s the recap:
Rd 1: And here we go. Manhoef misses with a straight right. Henderson shoots and gets the takedown. Passes into side control. Hendo grabs an arm. This kimura is deep. Manhoef is forced to tap.
by ufc4 on Jan 21, 2010 8:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is true, although I like Manhoef in any fight just because if he lands that mean punch… it’s basically over. But yeah, I generally think this is what would happen.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
No
They have to maximize on Hendo, and Melvin isn’t the way to go. Unless Hendo has a title and Manhoef can contest for it.
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It’d really go a long way to determine if Mo is for real though. That could be a main event or co-main event caliber fight.
by Johnnynumber5 on Jan 22, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
No thanks
I don’t like Mo at HW at all. It was almost a catchweight sort of situation with Whitehead (since they’re both normally LHW’s).
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Also
Rogers wins. He’s too big and strong for Mo. He really shouldn’t be at HW anymore. For me, his ideal weight is 185.
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Part of the chaos in this whole situation is the fact that the people we are talking about all are able and willing to move up and down weight classes.
It’s one thing in the UFC, when they have tons of fighters, for a few fighters to move up and down, but SF has less fighters, and it seems like all of their top fighters (but Fedor) are willing and able to move around weight classes, and that makes it complicated.
Maybe the best thing for SF to do is to focus on MW with this group. Staying at MW keeps Lawler, Manhoef, Jacare, maybe even Lindland into the disucssion, just to have decent names/fighters for Mo, Mousasi, Hendo, and Shields to fight if they lose or aren’t ready to fight the top guys, or someone gets hurt or something.
MW also has the advantage that the fighters are better ranked there, so the matchups look better on paper.
You’ve hit the nail on the head, they just don’t have the roster depth right now to build anticipation for the big fights.
So, what do they do? Go for the one big fight, and hope that it’s close enough to deserve a rematch until they can develop more contenders. Or, do they try to build roster depth and risk one of their big names losing to a lesser-known fighter in the meantime.
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by Joe Schmitt on Jan 21, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think either Mo or Mousasi can cut to MW anymore.
by HarmlessNinja on Jan 22, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like to see Mo fight Babalu. I think thats a great fight at this point. If not someone like Sobral how about against someone like Brett Rogers?
by Johnnynumber5 on Jan 22, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Here’s what I’d like to see on the April card (call it StrikeForce: Unfinished Business)
Fedor vs Josh Barnett
Overeem vs Werdum
Mousasi vs Paulo Filho
Jake Shields vs Hendo
and King Mo vs Mike Kyle and Jacare vs winner of Mahoef/Lawlor in #1 contenders matches
Here is what we’ll probably get:
Fedor vs Werdum
Mousasi vs King Mo
Shields vs Hendo
Bobby Lashley vs TBA
by John Nash on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don’t think they’ll end up matching Mo and Mousasi, yet. Giving a loss to one of what I think will be their top two lightweights (after Mo gets some more experience) is not a smart move business-wise, given the lack of divisional depth.
by HarmlessNinja on Jan 22, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
They need barnett for the third fight because not only is there little possibility that overeem will fight in strikeforce but he’ll have all the cards in the negotiations even if he actually wants to come.
This way strikeforce has a back up and at least some leverage in the negotiations. There are 3 guys Strikeforce is gambling on:
Overeem
Barnett
and Rogers (to bounce back impressively so worst case you can book a rematch)
If they could pull of the first card they wouldn’t need to hold off on Barnett, because:
A) There is no guarantee Overeem would beat Werdum. He loses and now Werdum has 3 straight wins and has won 5 of his last 6 over some pretty good names. Either one would be a legit top 6 fighter going in against Fedor.
B) You, of course, try and sign both Overeem and Werdum ahead of the fight to an agreement that the winner is madated to face Fedor.
C) You build another contender. Dream is going to have a HW tournament this year with Andrei Arlovski, Sergei Kharitonov, and Tim Sylvia as likely contestants. Strikeforce can let them use Barnett (after losing to Fedor), Antonio Silva, maybe Brett Rogers, and the loser of Alistair/Overeem on the condition that they get to host the tourney winner versus Fedor. Whomever comes out of that tournament is going to look like a top contender.
D) Hope Lashley can string 3 wins together. Same with Brett Rogers. Then pair the two off against each other as a number one contenders match and you have another top contender who can draw.
You cant sell a ppv with Fedor vs Werdum.
Strikeforce is praying for one of 2 cards to come up on the river… CBS either really commits (which doesnt look like it’s happening) and PPV.
If CBS doesnt really commit after this show then ppv is there only hope.
But this would be after Werdum has beaten Overeem on national tv. He might not be as good as option as Overeem but he’ll be a lot more marketable than he was before. So you’d have a ppv headline with:
Fedor vs. Werdum
Mousasi vs. Hendo
That’s would be a pretty strong co-main event (We could call it Strikeforce: Yes all our best fighters are from M-1). But where this card would really be helped out is by the fact that having Fedor vs Barnett on the April card would draw a lot more eyes making it much more likely that CBS would do more shows. So a month before their ppv event they could run a CBS card with Carano or Lashley or whomever they could dig up to draw rating and basically run a two hour informercial for their ppv show coming up.
Of course, this would only work if they could pull of the first card I suggest which could only work if: Both Paulo and Barnett could get licensed, past drug tests, and get approved by CBS, Overeem agrees to fight for Strikeforce, and ratings are good enough for CBS to continue.
im a big strikeforce fan but i think their contracts let fighters do a little to much. im not saying they should go to the ufc style because they leave themselves room to make great fights and sighn good fighters. i just think they need to pull the reins in a little to make sure they dont lose their fighters for 2 years i think once they get a little bigger they will have more power over that and will be fine.
Yeah, I hate to toot this horn
But this is the clear advantage of the UFC. While Strikeforce has a few good fighters in a few divisions. You can only see a few compelling challenges for them on the horizon. Then a huge question mark or more of this recycled veteran feed. At Least in the UFC. You see good match-up after match-up for their top guys and even if you can only see a few fights, by the time they happen you can usually count on someone-like Jon Jones, Junior Dos Santos or the like to come along in time.
If we are allowed to pick only one thing to prove the UFC is stronger that Strikeforce
all that needs to be said is “Light Heavyweights.”
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