Bobby Lashley vs. Wes Sims in the works.
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Wut?
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Jan 20, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Phew!…? It makes more sense than Ambriz, I see it playing out similar too Sims/Wren from TUF.
by CSKit
Will Bobby Lashley reach Justin Wren status?!?!?!?!
Any time to get this finalized would be nice.
by Ubernoober
I guess we get to see how he would have done on TUF.
by nottheface
Sims via personality.
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by Nick Thomas on Jan 20, 2010 8:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great fight!
Lets see Lashley try to figure out how to beat Sims who has a impregnable takedown defense!
If botter said it I’m sure it’s being discussed but nothing is for sure with Strikeforce until all the t’s are crossed and lower case j’s dotted.
by ufc4 on Jan 20, 2010 8:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jose Canseco is waiting by the phone.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jan 21, 2010 7:00 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently Jeremy Botter and I have an entirely different definition of “fantastic.”
The man know simply as "Christmas Cheesesteak"
by Neil Manich on Jan 20, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he is a sarcastic fellow?
Fantastic news to me would be “hey guys, we are going to try to treat our athletes like professionals and do our match making earlier than 2 weeks before the event.”
Except that didn’t come off as “sarcastic” at all because… we’re on the INTERNET and it’s 140 characters. In all honesty, I took it as a shot at the match-up… but that’s from years of sparring with idiots to get that kind of keen sense.
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by Leland Roling on Jan 21, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Brother, it’s WES SIMS. Any sentence that uses “Wes Sims” and “fantastic” is going to be comedy-related in some fashion.
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Perfect, after Wes Sims dominates Fedor won’t be able to duck him any more.
by MMAEruption on Jan 20, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
LoL
Maybe the roles should be reversed. Sims via pro wrestling, Lashley via MMA. One has personality, the other has the personality of a wet towel
Wes Sims
The only man to defeat Frank Mir on two seperate occasions.
by ufc4 on Jan 20, 2010 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I now you're being facetious, but
Those two fights are what has always kept me from considering Frank Mir an elite fighter.
Sims said it on one of the TUF episodes.
by ufc4 on Jan 20, 2010 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I skipped to the fights on TUF this season.
And even some of those where hard to watch.
LOL, with the exception of about three episodes you should have skipped the fights too.
by ufc4 on Jan 20, 2010 9:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You do realize Wes was lying when he said that right? Mir won both fights, in the second fight Mir knocked him out.
I was trying to figure out how the fights with Wes Sims kept someone from considering Frank Mir an elite fighter, that was directed at the other guy.
Yes I have, Mir was killing Sims on the ground the first fight before Sims blatantly cheated and Mir knocked Sims out in the second even though Sims strength was supposed to be his striking. Considering Mir had only been fighting MMA for two years at that point I didn’t see anything in any fight that made him look that bad.
yeah, i was blazed out of my mind and sims/mir II came on unleashed. i owe my mma fandom to that fight.
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by Anthony Pace on Jan 20, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
That was one of the ugliest, sloppiest fights to ever grace the Octagon. It looked like the scene from They Live.
I had just watched a bunch of Cro Cop fights (Big Nog, Barnett, and Aleks Emelianenko I think) then I saw Mir/Simms. Unfortunately for Mir, whenever I see him I think of those fights. It’s like seeing a hot chick fuck Ron Jeremy, she’s ruined for life.
It was only sloppy for the last minute of the fight and then it ended in a huge knock out, the entire first round of the fight Mir worked him over so bad Sims had trouble getting back to his corner. Perhaps you need to go back and watch it again. Hell both Mir and Sims had only been fighting two years at that point, it shouldn’t be compared to highlight reel Cro Cop fights (some of which were such mismatches it was hard for him not to look great).
I never said Mir isn’t good, I said because of that fight I havea hard time accepting him as an elite fighter. They memory lingers with me, but I’ll suck it up and watch those fights again one of these days,
You don’t have to be apologetic for not thinking Mir is an elite fighter. He’s not.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 20, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
how many other two-time champs can you say that about?
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by Anthony Pace on Jan 21, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
just rewatched both fights
1st fight:
Mir clean takedown, half guard, mount. punches from mount, head and arm choke attempt, Sims rolls over, rear naked attempt, Sims rolls to back. Mir rolls for armbar, fails, Sims stands up, stomps, fight over.
Pretty clean fight for Mir other than not ending it from mount.
2nd fight:
Round 1:
Mir clean takedown, side control, mount. punches, failed sub attempt, back to side control for Mir. Mount again. Sims gives up back. Mir flattens out and goes for punches. Sims rolls onto his back again. Mir goes for head and arm choke. Sims survives and gives Mir “the bird”. Mir is exhausted, controls from mount for remainder of round.
Round 2:
Mir goes for awkward kick, falls down, gets up, takes down Sims easily. Sims pulls guard. fight stalls, Big John stands them up. Mir failed takedown attempt. Clinch, things getting awkward here, Mir exhausted. Mir holds lame single attempt, goes to his knees. Sims elbows from top, literally goes for double axe handle from top here, (wow this is getting ugly). Mir gets takedown, Sims pulls guard. Lay and Pray. Big John stands them up. Mir lands 2 strong knees with plum, then 2 big punches, TKO stoppage.
In summary. Mir looked good in Fight 1, looked bad in Fight 2, especially in Round 2.
by polevaultking on Jan 21, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Lashley is gonna get stomped.
Then get a DQ win.
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You do realize that one post above
was a joke about that moment and it being a DQ?
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by pdl on Jan 20, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If that gif had to do with the post above it, he would have reply’d to that post.
by Timmy B on Jan 20, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’d like to think so.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 20, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, you mean like being EXACTLY what it was talking about?
If that gif had to do with the post above it
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I always thought the funniest part is how he blatantly holds the fence while he does it.
I wonder if Brock has seen this? Wes must be an endearing chap to him.
I always thought the funniest part was how he was upset and acted like he was robbed.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 20, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not a costume, Wes is an actual ninja.
by ufc4 on Jan 20, 2010 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m sure Sims has been training non-stop since he left the house.
by ufc4 on Jan 20, 2010 9:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He and some homeless guys built an Octagon
under the freeway overpass where he lives.
by Scott Haber on Jan 20, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah they are pretty much getting someone to come in for a paycheck to ensure Lashley wins.
This is what a local show is Ladies and Gentlemen.
real question
but the UFC never have to find a replacement the week before the show?
Has the UFC ever had a fight rejected because it wasn’t competitive two weeks out and then tried and failed to push Jimmy Ambritz on people and then though Wes Sims was a “fantastic” idea?This is way beyond just having some last minute problems with a card.
Alright, lets step back a minute.
This scenario ridiculous. Totally out of hand, and never should have happened. But it’s only one fight on the card. Diaz-Zaromskis, Cyborg-Coenen, and Lawler-Manhoef are all sick, competitive fights that were made in advance of the two weeks notice thing.
And lets remember that they couldn’t find a good replacement for Lawler’s opponent on the last card on short notice after a last minute injury. They put him on the next (this) card with an awesome fight.
The Lashley situation is totally effed up. But it’s ONE fight. Let’s not act like the whole card is fucked.
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Even if the UFC didn’t exist this would still be crap booking, there’s no reason to even bring the UFC into it from either side. Heck it wasn’t even the only fight that they were dreadfully late announcing an opponent for(Walker’s opponent wasn’t set until Jan 8). Sometimes bad things happen to a card and people get injured but there isn’t an injury problem here it’s just that they can’t find an opponent that doesn’t get laughed at. You got to really work at this kind of mess and it just takes one dumb ass move like this to overshadow your entire event no matter how good the rest of it may be.
I said nothing about the UFC… you did. Their existence has nothing to do with anything.
There is a problem with ONE fight on a five fight card. The lowest billed fight on the card. It’s a hugely public clusterfuck of promotional fail (for this one fight), no matter who is to blame for it. You said there are problems with the card… but there aren’t. They could drop this fight, bump up Heiron vs. Riggs, and then have an awesome night of four competitive fights and one publicity stunt. The card is not in trouble at all, and it’s not losing either of the two title fights or the insanely compelling technical brawl. Lashley is not a proven draw, and they haven’t sunk any money into promoting him yet. There’s no huge loss if the fight does not happen.
Strikeforce is not in trouble because of this fight. It is just indicative of problems they need to fix in the future. Stop being so alarmist.
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The guy I was replying to brought the UFC up not me. Where did I say there were problems with the card, I was pointing out that this one problem overshadows the rest of the card, look how much talk there is on the internet about this and how little buzz there is around the rest of it. Strikeforce isn’t in trouble (and when have I claimed that?) but this one fight is screwing up the whole cards promotion, not to mention the Walker fight which is a complete joke.
Sure they do
because of injuries and medical issues, not because of Athletic Commissions rejecting the cans they tried to serve on a silver platter to some fighter they’re trying to hype.
The first one that comes to mind for me was Tim Boetsch coming in on a weeks notice to fight David Heath, which was just epic.
This is about as close to fight fixing as you can get without actually fight fixing… the other popular method is fucking with the weights and getting guys to cut more than expected to engineer the outcome.
Having a guy you want to promote prepped and ready and then giving his opponent a week notice is common practice in your local bar circuit… but clearly “Strikeforce is in another league”.
And to top it off they are main carding this and the Hershal walker shenanigans over an actual fight… a fight that determines their next challenger for their title.
This is about as stupid as you can get. This is a local show currently being televised nationally.
by mmalogic on Jan 20, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“This is a local show currently being televised nationally.”
On that fine note. I guess I can call it a night. A person can only take swallow so much BS.
by scrambledeggs on Jan 20, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
where is the bs in this tho?
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
You haven't demonstrated how it's BS.
You’re declaring by fiat, while mmalogic has a quality argument. His method wins.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jan 20, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
He wandered in, crapped on the discussion and left. That’s not a method of anything that’s just being a goofball.
He didn’t crap on the discussion, he crapped on Strikeforce, which I think is deserved in this situation.
by ufc4 on Jan 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Yeah, exact same thought.
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by Jacob Hayes on Jan 20, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
The question is
Do you think it in the Professor’s voice?
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Indeed.
My psyche is so warped even the phrase Good News is in the professor voice on a daily basis in my mind.
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Hey Now...
Strikeforce is in another league, it’s just called the Bush League. That’s all.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Jan 21, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
As I stated in the Fanshot, This has reached WTF Status
Can’t help but to think that this will fall through also.
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by Damon O. on Jan 20, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Same thing I thought when I saw that Tweet.
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Wes
Wes is a super nice guy and he could do something in MMA……if only he trained with people that could actually teach him a thing or two. Although I must say I don’t really think he is all there: After he had his arm broken (from sparring Loveless in Houston) and had rods put in he actually though he would be a better MMA fighter.
And like I said SUPER NICE guy. He was kind enough to come meet my underage ass outside the Ritz in Houston.
Sims is going to be the hungrier fighter in this match. He’ll be fighting for a sandwich.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jan 20, 2010 9:53 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Atleast Sims is funny
1/20/2010- Has been declared BROCK IS BACK BITCHES day B.I.B.B. for short. Im working on making it a national holiday
Lashley is funny too...
When the fight comes with Fedor, which is going to be two, maybe three fights away, I will be definitely ready for him. It’s hard for me
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oh my GOD i want Sims to win. So fucking badly. Fight of the year.
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He is already...kinda.
Seth vs Ken Shamrock for a “world title”, would be on epic Wargods proportions.. The only fight that I could think off that could make it better, is a co headliner between Dan Severn and Tank Abbott.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Pitfighter vs Mustache
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by II SMASH II on Jan 20, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
i just hope they make this the first fight so that we can all move on and enjoy the rest of the fights.
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Now BE staff, I want the play by play to read exactly like this.
Fight starts, fight ends, Lashley wins.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I want to see if Kid Nate sill thinks StrikeForce is another league after this
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