Look Out: Georges St. Pierre Is Bigger, Faster and Stronger Than Ever
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:00 PM EST
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I want to take him out. I want to finish him, but when you look for the knockout sometimes it doesn’t come, so I have to be smart. I’m going to have to fight my fight and take him out of his comfort zone, and by doing so he is going to make a mistake. The fight will end when he makes his first mistake.
I see fighting like a mathematics problem. When you have a mathematics problem you have a formula that you use to solve the problem. Dan Hardy is a problem, and I’m going to have to figure out which formula I’m going to use during the fight to solve the problem and that’s how it is... I think it’s also a question of statistics. If I fight against his strengths, my chances of winning diminish. If I fight against his weaknesses, my chances of winning go up.
Right now I’m about 190lbs. I’m bigger and I’m getting even bigger than I was, more powerful, and more explosive. I hit much harder. We have been working on a lot of different stuff to make me hit harder and to give me more power on my strikes. It’s going to change a lot of things.
I’m not satisfied about my ratio of knockouts. I have knockouts, but I want to bring my ratio up. I’m more powerful than I was, and by being more powerful I’m faster as well. Power is strength and speed together.
--Georges St. Pierre, talks to tapology about his methodical approach on solving his 'mathematical problem'. He's now an even bigger, faster, and more skilled version of him, and considering how great as he has looked recently, that's a scary scary thought indeed.
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Seems inevitable that he moves up to 185, mows down a pair of challengers and faces off with Anderson Silva in the biggest MMA fight of all time.
Drool….
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Jan 20, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I will travel wherever I have to in order to watch that live
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 20, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with it
Hopefully Chicago or Minneapolis, to save us the trouble.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
I'd do that
Got some friends in Toronto.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
me too
can’t wait to watch Silva knock GSP to the floor, and pummel him
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Because I can’t bring myself to say it, I’ll quote “Zac and Miri Make a Porno”:
I’m disturbed at how turned on I am by this.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jan 20, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Ohhhhhhhhhssssss yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhsssss
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Definitely seems he is doing i the right way to move up to MW, hopefully Silva will be able to meet him there when he is ready. After Hardy I don’t see who else he could fight that would be marketable as a contender for WW. After Silva v Vitor the only MW contender left is Nate Marquart (sp). Hopefully after those fights they can get this one set up. Silva is not getting any younger and he’s not going to be able to keep cutting if the UFC wants him to fight more LHW.
My man-crush on GSP is starting to make me uncomfortable…
by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jan 20, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions
GSP has one more fight after Hardy (Koschek or daley, if his takedown defense is truly tested).
Anderson has one more fight after Vitor (Nate).
If Machida beats Shogun there’s a good chance we’ll see the GSP v Anderson super fight. If Shogun wins, Anderson will be at 205.
I dont think BJ has any more fights left at 155. With GSP gone the WW division becomes wide open and very interesting again with Penn, Alves, Fitch, Daley, Hardy, Koschek, etc…
The WEC 155 champ should fight the UFC 155 champ and that should be that with the LW division… Yes, Kenny Florian may finally hold a belt (that is until aldo moves up).
by mmalogic on Jan 20, 2010 2:25 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I disagree strongly.
Putting top WEC lightweights against top UFC lightweights is set up for murder. I don’t think Henderson can beat Tyson Griffin. Florian could pull something like Zorro and carve a “KF” into his forehead with elbows.
Actually… shit. Now I want that fight to happen just to see if he would do that.
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I would argue that the disparity between the top few WEC lightweights (Henderson, Cerrone, Varner) and any UFC LW not named BJ Penn is far less than the gap between BJ and anyone else at 155 in the UFC.
I disagree
I think Florian and Sanchez are heads and shoulders above those three.
that would be pretty bizarre if three ufc champions shift up a weight class at the same time. i suppose it’s possible
by phantasma475 on Jan 20, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
GSP vs Silva must happen. Biggest fight possible outside of Fedor/Lesnar. I like the idea of the WEC vs UFC 155er’s , after BJ leaves, of course.
certified warlord
I think it's bigger
Personally.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Jan 20, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
for majority of the fans, it won’t be.. they love their BROCKLESNAR
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know, GSP is a pretty huge draw, and UFC will hype the hell out that fight.
by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jan 20, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Brock Lesnar is a much bigger draw..
and with the money it will take to sign Fedor, do you think they won’t hype the hell out of that too?
that’s MMA’s Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Sadly, we might not see either of those fights.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
it's sad when the huge draw in MMA isn't even a martial artist
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
troll
nobody complains about Fitch, Maynard, Sonnen, et al not being legitimate martial artists, and Lesnar had far more success within the amateur wrestling scene.
no
that’s so played out; I’m talking about the lack of martial arts
No striking ability, no kicking whatsoever, no submission skills (or submission defense), no nothing.
Just brawn. That is his one skill.
Call me a troll all you want, I could care less what you think. Your opinion will never influence mine in anyy way shape or form. I’ve taken martial arts all my life (I’m 34) and I can call out a phony real quick.
Make the guy fight a real martial artist that he dooesn’t outweigh by 30 to 70 pounds, and he will lose. Point blank.
He is champ because Dana keeps giving his mealticket matchups that he can dominate with his size. Anyone who doesn’t see this is blind. Herring is the only big guy he’s fought, and he made Herring look like a kid.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
didn't mean to imply
that you (Chortles) were calling me a troll, meant the Lesnar fanboy above
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Have you even watched his fights?
seriously? Just brawn? SERIOUSLY?
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Not saying buys, saying from a fight perspective. I’m not a UFC shareholder.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
I know what you meant.
I was just saying. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
It is close, though. I think Lesnar/Fedor would be an amazing fight, but it could easily go the way of Kid/Kid if one of them falls from the perch. I don’t see either GSP or Anderson losing their luster before they could potentially meet.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
you don't believe that hardy is GSP's Kryptonite?
He seems to think so, and we’ll hear a lot more of that in the prime time show for sure.
(oh, and that’s a good photoshop idea right there haha)
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever happened to the PS thing you used to do?
Also, I think Hardy has some kind of a chance; perhaps as good as anyone in the top ten. Just like Edgar/Beej, that still isn’t saying much, but I think it’s a crying shame that people are making him out to be some bum because he isn’t a GSP.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
yeah,
GSP is just great, but Hardy is no slouch at all.. and it sucks that some people are calling all the challengers to the dominant champs, bums.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
With Hardy, it is what it is. GSP has those insane takedowns, and it just seems like a given that Hardy is going to get taken down even to the point where he knows this himself. Hardy is no clouch, but his strength is in standup. I agree that it sucks that some people are calling all the challengers to the dominant champs, bums; that’s just ridiculous.
I think Belfort has a decent chance for an upset..
I think he can win if he lands early, before Anderson gets in his groove.
(which would probably last a few minutes, or even a round since Anderson wouldn’t be able to counter a lot of shots since Belfort seems to start out karate-ly patient too)
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Vitor has fast hands, and decent timing (probably from his karate), so I think it’s a more intriguing match up than this one.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
But is he in tune with the FUCKING MATRIX?
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
Machida was supposed to be the #1 p4p guy right about now…
I thought he was untouchable too. Should of known it was just his upper body that could dodge bullets.
Or rather, he wasn’t in the Matrix that night. I don’t remember Anderson Silva getting leg-kick spammed though…
I’m still of the belief that something went wrong in his corner that night and completely threw him off. Considering what Yoshizo said that his corner failed him, I believe it. Course, he thinks that Anderson Silva is better, and Chinzo is supposedly better than him at stand-up WELL before 104 anyway…
So which is Neo and which is Morpheus?
Vitor vs Anderson is a great fight… and one im looking forward to alot. I think this will be Andersons toughest fight he has at MW.
But Anderson has never been dropped in a fight or even in training let alone Knocked out..
Vitor has an awesome chin but not the best heart so even if there skills on the feet are a wash and they land equal blows – Vitor will most likely lose.
From a fight perspective Shogun vs Machida is just as big of a fight as Fedor v Brock..
Every other title fight within their weight classes are behind these 2 matchups.
Vitor vs Anderson is close and Faber vs Aldo is exciting but not the same thing.
If Mir beats Carwin in a way where you can see clear evidence of a thrid fight being different with Brock then that Fight also becomes exciting.
Then you have the winner of Cain vs Dos Santos as a monster fight against the title holder.
HW division is exciting. LHW division is exciting. Once GSP moves up to MW then that division will become exciting, and same when BJ moves up to ww.
far bigger
far, far, far, far, far, far, far
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
GSP by HELL-BOW
I don’t want to see any LnP bullshit.
by Polyh3dron on Jan 20, 2010 2:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh noes
GSP does not LNP.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
by Blackout612 on Jan 20, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
quick,
someone bring up how Fitch and Alves looked when they got “LnP-ed”.
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 20, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I know but you never know what ideas Greg Jackson is putting in his head, especially aftr the Evans v Silva fight
by Polyh3dron on Jan 20, 2010 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Greg Jackson’s ideas are usually the best ones.
by gavingavinkindgavin on Jan 20, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
That’s just right after the fight right? Imagine how nasty that looked a couple days later.
by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jan 20, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Even the next morning
Probably looked like someone stepped on a grape.
Blackout612- "Wuts teh UFC?"
Ubernoober- "It like two guy who just stand and swing for fence and try to knock each other shit out it awesome"
that's what GSP will look like after Anderson
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
gsp vs hardy i hope is a slugfest
lots of blood and a broken nose or jaw. then we can see if canada’s health care system is as bad as lesnar claims. i actually think penn vs cerrone would be much better fight than penn vs edgar. edgar is short and cerrone is tall and can take punishment. after cerrone beats henderson i say the ufc brings up and the fight happens.
i'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. i was building a house, i don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. bang. "unforgiven"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 20, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions
Of course the American health care system is better than the Canadian one when you’re a millionaire and even better when you’re Zuffa’s cash cow and they are sparing no expense on you. For the rest of us though it’s not so great.
by Polyh3dron on Jan 20, 2010 2:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i was being kinda sarcastic. i personnaly like canada.
vancouver b.c. is one of my favorite places and i will see some of the winter olympics.
i'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. i was building a house, i don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. bang. "unforgiven"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 20, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
BJ’s heart must sink when he reads stuff like this. Didn’t get a new strength and conditioning coach a couple of training camps ago, with the ultimate goal of closing the gap with GSP? The guy you’re trying to catch up to is also getting stronger and faster. That would suck.
i don't think it will suck at all. if gsp goes to 185 the path is clear for b.j. penn to win......
the ww title. just a few obstacles. not beating gsp will not be his legacy. having won the lightweight and ww belts will be. multiple times too.
i'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. i was building a house, i don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. bang. "unforgiven"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 20, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give him props...
For some reason, I don’t like GSP. I really can’t put a finger on why I dislike him…I just do. Now, putting my disliking him aside, I must give him props for what he’s been able to accomplish in the cage. He truly is a fighting champion, and a damn good fighter at that. He continues to improve in all aspects of his game, and he is definitely a dangerous fighter at 170lbs. I too agree that if he beats Hardy, which he probably will, he will have no choice but to move up. I mean, he’s pretty much cleaned out his division. Well, with the exception of not fighting Swick, or Johnson, but honestly; If he beats Hardy, that should add more fuel to his meteoric rise to the MW division…..now unfortunately, a black hole will be waiting for him…..a black hole named Anderson Silva.
If, and when they fight; I don’t see GSP beating Anderson. Anderson’s striking is leagues above GSP’s….in fact Anderson’s striking is unlike anyone in the UFC. Sure, GSP might be able to take him down, but Anderson is more than capable on his back with a BJJ Black Belt.
GSP is definitely an awesome fighter, but if he ends up fighting Anderson Silva…I see him getting beating badly. That’s just MO
Holy crap. You mean the guy who made BJ Penn look like a total amateur is getting better?
I pity the fool that is Dan Hardy. They’ll have to carry him out of the cage in a bucket.
A very small bucket.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jan 20, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of GSP moving up, though. I feel that as soon as he does, and someone else comes along and wins the title and defends it a couple of times, everyone will be calling for him to drop back down and take it back…
BJ is out of luck.
BJ most likely would have lost a third fight with GSP, but now it looks even worse for him. For all the people that have been saying a third fight would be different, especially if BJ comes in shape with the new strength and conditioning program he is running, I’d have to agree. It will be different. This time GSP will end BJ’s career. It doesn’t matter though, cause GSP is moving to MW, and out of BJ’s reach.
You have to be the man... you have to be very, like, alpha male with her. You know? Decide what you do and everything. So, show her who's the boss, you know? - GSP
Id like to first see this “new” GSP before penciling it in. He gained weight because he had an injury and he’s aging/maturing. Unless he has a new chemist I wouldnt chalk it up to anything but that. Id like to first see all this new power and new things he’s doing in training and how it translates into a fight first.
So is George st. Pierre scarier/more intimidating than Brock Lesner at 100%? Maybe….
He’s sparring w/ Gegard Mousasi. Lemme type that again.
Sparring….with Gegard Mousasi….
maybe gsp knows anderson silva is only going to fight one more fight and retire
or anderson silva moves to 205 pounds. i don’t really like gsp either but that does not influence my betting. he probably will be a top 4 middleweight. i’m sure he will got his shot at someone for the mw title. it just won’t be anderson silva.
i'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. i was building a house, i don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. bang. "unforgiven"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 20, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
We already knew GSP was training with Evans…Now granted Mousasi is probably better standing, but Mousasi is less proven than Rashad.
Ummm how the fack do you get that Mousasi is less proven than Rashad?? Gegard is 28-2!!! Almost on Par with Fedor. Rashad is what 15-1? And dont give me the "well Rashad has/is fighting in the UFC’ crap either as Gegard has fought enough top notch competition this last year or two that that just sounds utterly rediculous. If your not PROVEN already after 30+ Fights and various Belts and accomplishments..Not sure what is or would make you. Same as people stating Gegard is up and Coming…No. He is just gotten/getting more recognition since fighting in the states(with casual fans, as hardcores already knew/know who he is). At least thats how I see it. If anything Gegard is HIGHLY Underated, way he likes it apparently, less stress and pressure to perform.
How do you Know where Im at? If you dont Know where Ive been...Understand where Im coming from??
I have to agree. Being a UFC/Strikeforce fan I’m SO glad that SF hooked up w/ Dream so I can get more in touch w/ the Japanese based promotion. I don’t have HDNet (damn Cox) so I have to watch Dream via internet. I was amazed by who this Mousasi character was and I figured he was on the “come up.” But after seeing his credentials and his VICIOUS strikes, he’s a force to be reckoned with. Same goes with Fedor, the thing is your casual UFC-fanatic won’t know those names cause they’re not int he UFC.
Mousasi has nothing to prove but give him a few fights against top contenders in Strikeforce and he may become a houshold name. But then again…it’s Strikeforce. And nobody fuckin shows Strikeforce in any bars in NORTHERN VIRGINIA!!!
Mousasi is a better fighter than Rashad in every aspect except wrestling.
by Super Dingus on Jan 20, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Also Im pretty sure, unless something has changed and been posted up already, but Firas was\is saying that He was Trying or looking into getting Gegard in as a training/sparring partner for GSP. Dont think theyve yet to train together just yet. But would be pretty crazy if Fedor Tagged along with him. How much awesomesauce would that be, GSP,Gegard and Fedor all in the same Gym/Ring training together. Whole building might just explode..or implode not sure which…
How do you Know where Im at? If you dont Know where Ive been...Understand where Im coming from??
I for one
Would love to see the GSP sparring sessions with the freakshow Muay Thai fighters he imports for his camps. Also his sessions with the Olympic wrestling team.
In fact, I love watching elite fighters train, period. Inspires me to push myself with my own pitiful fitness efforts.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
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